Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-31 Thread Andrew Jenkins
-Original Message- From: Rene Tschaggelar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] You're wrong. The NDA applies for afterwards too. The NDA covers the NDA too, I guess. The beta was a lot of tiring work, so let's forget about the beta and focus on the release. You do your purchase

Re: [PEDA] DXP discussion

2002-07-31 Thread Duane Foster
A software company trying to cover up its bugs Invoking both the controversial 1998 DMCA and computer crime laws, HP has threatened to sue a team of researchers who publicized a vulnerability in the company's Tru64 Unix operating system. http://news.com.com/2100-1023-947325.html I will

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-31 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
And it looks like beta v2 to me. Igor -Original Message- From: Andrew Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2002 10:01 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion -Original Message- From: Rene Tschaggelar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread Michael Reagan (EDSI)
Ian wrote, Just a brief comment before the discussion really hots up. My comments: Ian,follow the context of the messages on this forum from release of 99 to present. The earlier tone from these discussions was nothing but frustration. Some of us were mad as hell at simple things not

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread Tim Hutcheson
Just downloaded DXP demo yesterday and rejoined the forum (missed any earlier discussion). My initial impressions: To compare the product I choose an 8-channel amplifier board that is one of six identical cards used in a 48 transducer system. Of course this was very tedious to do (or tedious

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread JaMi Smith
Ian, This is really scarey, you beta'd the thing and you cant say anything more constructive yourself? Talk about George Orwellean 1984 doublespeak . . . JaMi - Original Message - From: Ian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread Tony Karavidas
. -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:45 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: JaMi Smith Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion Ian, This is really scarey, you beta'd the thing and you cant say anything more constructive yourself

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread Michael Reagan (EDSI)
- Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion Part of the beta agreement was to not disclose things that transpired during the beta period. That would seem

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread Tony Karavidas
: Michael Reagan (EDSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:36 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion Tony, Thank you for the reminder, I don't think I have disclosed anything other than reinforcing any commentary that I have posted here for the past year

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread Frank Gilley
program , it just could be better without having to write code from the floor up. Mike Reagan EDSI - Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion Part

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread Joe Sapienza
- Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion Hi Mike, My comment was more focused on Jami's comment to Ian: This is really scarey, you beta'd the thing

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread Michael Reagan (EDSI)
This is really scarey, you beta'd the thing and you cant say anything more constructive yourself? Tony, I felt very strong that the platform (99SE) was and is superior to anything else in the price range. A few minor tweaks, a few lines of code taken out to optimize long compilations, and

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread Rene Tschaggelar
You're wrong. The NDA applies for afterwards too. The NDA covers the NDA too, I guess. The beta was a lot of tiring work, so let's forget about the beta and focus on the release. You do your purchase decision on the release and not on the beta. The beta is gone ... Rene Joe Sapienza wrote:

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread Robert M. Wolfe
Mike, 100% Correct. Bob Wolfe Mike wrote I disagree,This is expensive software. I purchase $49.00 software and complain to store managers if my $49.00 package doesnt work, why shouldnt ALTIUM receive heat from us about not correcting bugs and not meeting our expectations. We are the

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread Ian Wilson
On 09:46 PM 30/07/2002 -0400, Robert M. Wolfe said: Mike, 100% Correct. Bob Wolfe Mike wrote I disagree,This is expensive software. I purchase $49.00 software and complain to store managers if my $49.00 package doesnt work, why shouldnt ALTIUM receive heat from us about not correcting

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread Tony Karavidas
In the US, 'to bag' generally means the same thing. I think some places it means to 'capture' or 'get lucky' but I'm not sure where... -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 7:14 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-30 Thread Brian Sherer
InterestingIn my neck of the woods (NW US), to bag something is to abandon it as useless, but without extreme prejudice Brian At 07:32 PM 7/30/02 -0700, you wrote: In the US, 'to bag' generally means the same thing. I think some places it means to 'capture' or 'get lucky' but I'm not