Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Hamid A. Wasti

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Hamid A. Wasti
"Lloyd N. Johnson" wrote: > I don't want to sound too critical here, but this sounds like mythology to > me. Are you saying a router cannot stop and change directions without > creating some kind of problem? I have been working with board vendors for > 20 years and no vendor ever told me anything

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Geoff Harland
> Geoff Harland wrote: > > > And to expand a bit on that request, do you have a viewpoint on the merits > > of using Gerber arc commands versus "software" arc commands, in the event > > that the details of routing a PCB are provided in Gerber file format? (This > > assumes that the PCB manufacture

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Hamid A. Wasti
Geoff Harland wrote: > And to expand a bit on that request, do you have a viewpoint on the merits > of using Gerber arc commands versus "software" arc commands, in the event > that the details of routing a PCB are provided in Gerber file format? (This > assumes that the PCB manufacturer can handl

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Lloyd N. Johnson
Message text written by Hamid >It is a bad idea to use an inside radius same as your router bit radius. This requires the router to come to a complete stop and then start moving at 90 degrees. There will invariably be some chatter and the router will cut into the sides. It is better to make a m

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Andrew J Jenkins

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Andrew J Jenkins
On 09:52 AM 2/15/01 -0800, Hamid A. Wasti said: >Andrew J Jenkins wrote: > > > I'd still like to know some more specifics regarding optimizing this new > > rule. My 31's DO live a much shorter life than the 62's, on average, > and I'm > > sure everyone else would ultimately benefit from the infor

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Max Henzi
Hi Lloyd, While I can't speak from direct experience that this is true in the board manufacturing industry, it certainly is true in the metal machining industry. We manufacture photoplotters to very tight tolerances using highly accurate CNC machine tools. Any time a radius is required, we insu

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Jon Elson
"Lloyd N. Johnson" wrote: > Message text written by Hamid > >It is a bad idea to use an inside radius same as your router bit radius. > This > requires the router to come to a complete stop and then start moving at 90 > degrees. There will invariably be some chatter and the router will cut > i

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Hamid A. Wasti
"Lloyd N. Johnson" wrote: > I don't want to sound too critical here, but this sounds like mythology to > me. Are you saying a router cannot stop and change directions without > creating some kind of problem? I have been working with board vendors for > 20 years and no vendor ever told me anything

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Andrew J Jenkins

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Perhaps I should read ahead, instead of popping in so quickly. I see that Mr. Wasti has at least partially answered my questions (under the subject of Optimum Routing inside radius, was: Rectangle holes): At 09:52 AM 2/15/01 -0800, Hamid A. Wasti wrote: >... >It is a fact of life that the smal

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Dennis Saputelli
if space allows why not just overshoot a bit in the corners, then a rectangular part can fit snugly, I've done this. Dennis Saputelli Andrew J Jenkins wrote: > > On 09:52 AM 2/15/01 -0800, Hamid A. Wasti said: > >Andrew J Jenkins wrote: > > > > > I'd still like to know some more specifics regard

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Hamid A. Wasti
Andrew J Jenkins wrote: > I'd still like to know some more specifics regarding optimizing this new > rule. My 31's DO live a much shorter life than the 62's, on average, and I'm > sure everyone else would ultimately benefit from the information too. A rule > is only useful if its substance can be

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Jon Elson
Brad Marshall wrote: > Hello, > I have a person here that wants a 50mil X 250mil rectangle plated > through hole. I am having trouble figuring out the best way to do this > with Protel so that the board house will know what I want. Any > suggestion/comments are appreciated. You'd better cont

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Andrew Jenkins

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Geoff Harland
> On 11:03 AM 2/12/2001 -0800, Hamid A. Wasti wrote: > > > It is a bad idea to use an inside radius same as your > > router bit radius. This requires the router to come > > to a complete stop and then start moving at 90 > > degrees. There will invariably be some chatter and > > the router will cut

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Dennis Saputelli
great tip, I never realized that! thanks Dennis Saputelli "Hamid A. Wasti" wrote: > It is a bad idea to use an inside radius same as your router bit radius. This > requires the router to come to a complete stop and then start moving at 90 > degrees. There will invariably be some chatter and th

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Hamid A. Wasti
Brad Velander wrote: > a typical shop might have a 32mil diameter > router as their smallest size > router bit and therefore your corners will have a 16mil radius. It is a bad idea to use an inside radius same as your router bit radius. This requires the router to come to a complete stop and th

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Brad Velander
Brad, here is the methodology that I have applied to such a problem previously with good results (no fab shop ever got it wrong). On your board the copper pattern is no problem because you can have square or rectangular pads or fills. Specify the hole in your pad to be very small (

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Andrew J Jenkins

[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Brad Marshall
Hello, I have a person here that wants a 50mil X 250mil rectangle plated through hole. I am having trouble figuring out the best way to do this with Protel so that the board house will know what I want. Any suggestion/comments are appreciated. Thanks, Brad Marshall * * * * * * * * * * * * * *