Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 IPC-7351.

2004-06-29 Thread Mike Reagan
Tom While it may seem inappropriate to post information about your company's capabilities on this forum, I wish to thank you for posting this information. This type of information helps keep us all abreast on what is happening in the industry. Thank you for the enlightment. Mike Reagan

Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 IPC-7351.

2004-06-29 Thread ajenkins
According to what statistical method? -Original Message- From: Tom Hausherr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:09 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 IPC-7351. Ian, We took a poll and Protel is number two in worldwide installations

Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 IPC-7351

2004-06-29 Thread Protel Hell
OK, that's cool but the Z height only extrudes to one height, what's great about the additional way Protel DXP2004 handles it, in addition to the Z height option, is that you can add 3D models to a Protel library (from Molex for example or from your own 3D CAD), then map the proper 3D model to

Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 IPC-7351.

2004-06-29 Thread Tom Hausherr
Bill, I just talked to Mentor Graphics PADS division and they say that since the 1st release of PADS Software in 1985 they have logged 85,000 licenses. PowerLogic (schematic) and PowerPCB (layout) are separate licenses. There are currently 18,000 PADS-PowerPCB seats on yearly maintenance.

Re: [PEDA] Licenses

2004-06-29 Thread Mike Reagan
That is pretty interesting data gathered here. The interesting part is that Cadence has been successful in trashing OrCAD from number 1 to a has been. I doubt if PADs schematic has overtaken OrCad. Mike Reagan EDSI Frederick MD -Original Message- From: Tom Hausherr [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Licenses

2004-06-29 Thread Joe Sapienza
Mike, I doubt that PADS schematic can overtake anythingend comment With regard to Orcad yes in it's day (DOS) it was the absolute best, hands down. Something happened when it went to Windows then Cadence bought them and well.. Joe - Original Message - From: Mike Reagan [EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Licenses

2004-06-29 Thread bob stephens
-Original Message- From: Joe Sapienza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:57 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Licenses Mike, I doubt that PADS schematic can overtake anythingend comment With regard to Orcad yes in it's day (DOS) it was the

Re: [PEDA] Licenses

2004-06-29 Thread Tom Hausherr
Bob, The last I heard just before Cadence purchased OrCAD, that OrCAD had sold 280,000 seats of OrCAD capture. Now Cadence has supposedly sent all OrCAD development off to India, but I have not seen any new features since the Cadence acquisition. The couple of new features that Cadence

Re: [PEDA] Licenses

2004-06-29 Thread Tom Hausherr
Joe, The last I heard just before Cadence purchased OrCAD, that OrCAD had sold 280,000 seats of OrCAD capture. Now Cadence has supposedly sent all OrCAD development off to India, but I have not seen any new features since the Cadence acquisition. The couple of new features that Cadence

Re: [PEDA] Licenses

2004-06-29 Thread Mike Reagan
Well.actually OrCad and Protel are quite similar in the windows apps. I dont know how OrCad sales have been since they sent their support to Asia. Mike Reagan -Original Message- From: bob stephens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:26 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum'

Re: [PEDA] Licenses

2004-06-29 Thread Protel Hell
Altiums Protel will never be number 1, it is just too cumbersome. Fine for people who have plenty of time but little $$ PH From: Joe Sapienza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEDA] Licenses Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004

Re: [PEDA] SV: Licenses

2004-06-29 Thread Darcy Davis
Amen to that! I haven't used Protel that long, but overall, have been fairly happy with it. I basically learned Protel99SE completely on my own and find it to be a fairly intuitive package. Unfortunately, we're in the same boat as many others on the list, where we are evaluating the upgrade to

[PEDA] Hierarchy designs in DXP/2004

2004-06-29 Thread Stephen Noftall
I think I know the answer to this already, but here it goes anyways: Is there anyway to get hierarchal designs to work when a component has 2 parts, and they go to the odd/even sub sheets? like if 1/2 of an opamp goes to sheet 1, and the other half to sheet 2. Then these repeat 8 times? The

Re: [PEDA] We Need Your Help!

2004-06-29 Thread Terry Creer
Tom and All, Surely there's someway of manipulating the library files in a text editor or similar to make the translation of the overlay easier? Replace All in Notepad? There's plenty of text editors/hackers etc around or maybe someone can code something (I'm no programmer at the best of times)

Re: [PEDA] We Need Your Help!

2004-06-29 Thread Tom Hausherr
Terry, Phillip Restall - [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a programmer but does not know of an easy way to Batch Move the silkscreen data to the correct layer. Here is the situation: The IPC-7351 library has a silkscreen outline and an assembly outline. They are two totally different outlines. The

Re: [PEDA] Licenses

2004-06-29 Thread John A. Ross [RSDTV]
-Original Message- From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 6:49 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Licenses That is pretty interesting data gathered here. The interesting part is that Cadence has been successful in trashing OrCAD

Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 IPC-7351.

2004-06-29 Thread John A. Ross [RSDTV]
Bill Or the seats could be like the ones I have. I have 2 active seats of my own. For each client that I have who specifies particular tools, I require them to supply me with a licensed seat of the tools (same version) as they use. For P99SE that totals 7. This is actually in case I ever dump

Re: [PEDA] IPC-2581 IPC-7351.

2004-06-29 Thread Darren
Hi Bill, On a flyer I got from Altium about Jan, it said there were over 13,000 DXP users. Maybe they should have a warning on the pack :P Darren Moore -Original Message- From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder just how many licensed seats there are of Protel in

Re: [PEDA] We Need Your Help!

2004-06-29 Thread Ian Wilson
On 09:22 AM 30/06/2004, Tom Hausherr said: Terry, Phillip Restall - [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a programmer but does not know of an easy way to Batch Move the silkscreen data to the correct layer. Here is the situation: The IPC-7351 library has a silkscreen outline and an assembly outline. They are two

Re: [PEDA] We Need Your Help!

2004-06-29 Thread Leonard Gabrielson
http://www.rentacoder.com - Original Message - From: Terry Creer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] We Need Your Help! Tom and All, Surely there's someway of manipulating the library files in a text

Re: [PEDA] Licenses

2004-06-29 Thread Mira
Mike, I've been using Orcad for a couple of months and I'd say it's completely different from Protel. Ver. 10 is not much different from ver.9.2. They had a couple of bugs but quickly fixed them. I didn't need any tech support for using the software so I can't say how good it is. Joe, I'm

Re: [PEDA] Licenses

2004-06-29 Thread Mira
The last I heard just before Cadence purchased OrCAD, that OrCAD had sold 280,000 seats of OrCAD capture. No wonder. Orcad capture is compatible with PSPICE. Many engineers use it mainly for that reason and then you only need to add the footprints and load the netlist. Orcad capture is also

[PEDA] 99-toP2004 Library conversion

2004-06-29 Thread Dom Bragge
Can anyone give me a quick tip on how to go about this? I have some decent inhouse 99SE libs but some staff (not all: inc me) have n't yet converted to P2004. One of EE's needs our 99SE libs in P2004 format. = Dom Bragge CID Snr PCB Designer Sydney, Australia ( 99SE sp6 ) Find local

Re: [PEDA] 99-toP2004 Library conversion

2004-06-29 Thread Darren
Hi Dom, He can open 99SE lib's with DXP (2004). Darren -Original Message- From: Dom Bragge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone give me a quick tip on how to go about this? I have some decent inhouse 99SE libs but some staff (not all: inc me) have n't yet converted to P2004.