Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-12 Thread Dennis Saputelli
the schem wiring could be better but as a result of experience what i do is right click a lot between end points it's not too hard and often makes editing easier it helps if you can anticipate what you are going to change :) Dennis Saputelli Jon Elson wrote: > > "Watnoski, Michael" wrote: > >

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-12 Thread Jon Elson
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > At 03:35 PM 2/11/2002 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > >There's a lot of history, there. Accel originally sold Protel's Tango > >package > >in the US. When Protel was solw to deliver the next version, Accel went > >out, hired programmers, and created their own program that

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-12 Thread Jon Elson
"Watnoski, Michael" wrote: > Hi All, > > I will admit that I have had more experience with PCAD than Protel. > I have used PCAD for about 3 years and Protel for only abut six months now. > > It is the common things that Protel fails in that drive me crazy. > Things like having to

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-11 Thread Bryn Wolfe
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > > I'd also like to hear from other experienced Protel users as to how to > rewire quickly. > If you left-click on the end of the wire like you said but then hit the delete key instead of placing the vertex you have over another vertex and clicking, this will dele

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-10 Thread Clive . Broome
el EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: (bcc: Clive Broome/sdc) Subject: Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A good synchronisation of Schematic and PCB (Update board/schematic). How about swapping p

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-10 Thread Ian Wilson
On 03:52 PM 8/02/2002 -0500, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said: ><..snip..> >Or the wire can be picked up and moved from one end, which might be >faster. Yes, if you are grunting every time you want to insert a resistor >into a wire, the grunting will severely slow you down! > >PCAD's reported behavior h

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-10 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:38 PM 2/8/2002 -0500, Watnoski, Michael wrote: > Was Accel so bad that they went out of business, or so good that >Protel was so desperate for a useable package that they offered so much to >buy them that they couldn't refuse? I think the latter. Neither of these is a good descript

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-08 Thread Andrew Jenkins
On 04:19 PM 2/8/2002 -0500, Michael Reagan wrote: >yea yea yea Acel was so damn good they went out of business. Dont get my >going slamming bit mapped crayola like Accel. Well...not exactly. And obviously, the program had enough of a value that Protel purchased the company, and appears to have

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-08 Thread Michael Reagan
rom 23M in sales to over 50 in two years should not be taken lightly. My point of view Hardcore User Mike Reagan EDSI > -Original Message- > From: Watnoski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:38 PM > To: 'Protel ED

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-08 Thread Brad Velander
#x27;Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel Was Accel so bad that they went out of business, or so good that Protel was so desperate for a useable package that they offered so much to buy them that they couldn't refuse? I think the latter. Michael Watnos

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-08 Thread Fabian Hartery
Darryl, I will have to differ with you with respect to your views on Protel. We have the latest PCAD here too and I have made it my best attempt to keep away from it. I have to admit, being a former Protel 98 user, I was intimidated by the DDB interface at the first run. It did take the first tw

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-08 Thread Watnoski, Michael

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:54 PM 2/8/2002 -0500, Watnoski, Michael wrote: >Hi All, > > I will admit that I have had more experience with PCAD than Protel. >I have used PCAD for about 3 years and Protel for only abut six months now. First of all, it should be noted that PCAD is, as Altium has represented it,

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-08 Thread Michael Reagan
ment, and > route--all manually. > > My crystal ball says that Phoenix will include those PCAD > niceties and more > like integrated libraries and perhaps even in-place library > editing. I could > be wrong. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Watnoski, Mic

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-08 Thread Darryl Newberry
uld be wrong. > -Original Message- > From: Watnoski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 13:54 > To: 'Protel EDA Forum' > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel > > > Hi All, > > I will admit that I have had mor

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-08 Thread Yuriy Khapochkin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A good synchronisation of Schematic and PCB (Update board/schematic). How about swapping pins in PCB and backannote to SCH? Seamless in Accel and no way in Protel. :( Yuriy. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAI

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-08 Thread Yuriy Khapochkin
Georg Beckmann wrote: > > Altium is now selling to different systems. Protel and Accel. > Does anybody work with both systems. ? > Which is better, or are they similar. ? > Whats the major difference ? Advantages of Accel EDA: Ability to swap pins and gates on PCB and backannotate this to SCH

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-08 Thread Watnoski, Michael

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:59 AM 2/8/2002 -0500, Watnoski, Michael wrote: > I regularly use both systems and I prefer PCAD. I only use Protel >because my day job insists that I use what they already paid for. I find >PCAD far more efficient and easier to learn. I am able to turn out jobs in >about a third

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-08 Thread Watnoski, Michael

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-07 Thread Harald . Bruenig
Beckmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08.02.2002 08:02 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:[PEDA] Accel vs. protel Altium is now selling to different systems

[PEDA] Accel vs. protel

2002-02-07 Thread Georg Beckmann
Altium is now selling to different systems. Protel and Accel. Does anybody work with both systems. ? Which is better, or are they similar. ? Whats the major difference ? Georg * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave