quot;Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] ATS Specifications, Terms and Conditions
> I think you all have far too much spare time on your hands!!!
>
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vity, and do not want the burden of
servicing software, nor are users capable in most cases. The service onus
lies with the vendor.
Regards,
Fred A Rupinski
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From: "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&
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To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] ATS Specifications, Terms and Conditions
> >>I think you all have far too much spare time on your hands!!!
>
> >Actually, Stephen, I do right now. I have
>>I think you all have far too much spare time on your hands!!!
>Actually, Stephen, I do right now. I have been recovering from surgery
>since Oct. 15.
Sorry, didn't mean to offend you, just laughing at how much some people
write in their response's.
It seems that when I come in to work in the
At 02:57 PM 11/13/01 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
> > I think you all have far too much spare time on your hands!!!
>
>Actually, Stephen, I do right now. I have been recovering from surgery
>since Oct. 15.
Touche.
I think I speak for all of us in wishing Mr. Baggett a speedy recovery a
Most of this has become an example of reduction ad absurdem, but a few
comments.
At 02:10 PM 11/13/01 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
>Abdul, you're a great dude, but I've got to disagree with you on this.
>Maybe I wasn't clear enough with my illustrative examples. The fact that
>cleanin
rid of me anytime soon ;-)
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website: www.bagotronix.com
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From: "Stephen Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:32 PM
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I think you all have far too much spare time on your hands!!!
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From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 November 2001 19:32
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] ATS Specifications, Terms and Conditions
> >Having your house cleane
reat value at $5K. It's
not such a great value at $10K. And don't say it is compared to Cadence;
cutting my toenail too deep is less painful compared to shooting myself in
the foot. But they both hurt and I don't want to do either.
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website:
At 03:13 PM 11/12/01 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
> > There is nothing intrinsically wrong with the "software as a service"
> > concept. In fact, properly implemented, it could be an improvement over
>the
> > more common product concept.
>
>Having your house cleaned is a service.
Yes.
>
sell it or throw
it away" concept.
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website: www.bagotronix.com
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From: "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:51 PM
There is nothing intrinsically wrong with the "software as a service"
concept. In fact, properly implemented, it could be an improvement over the
more common product concept.
I'm going to assume that the proposed law discussed here does not
circumvent the basic principle that to be enforceable
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From: "Fred A Rupinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] ATS Specifications, Terms and Conditions
> What is realistic is the barbed sha
What is realistic is the barbed shaft (tailored just for us) that some
predatory software vendors are lobbying for via the UCTAI. Among
other things, here is what they want:
-Legalize remote turnoff of users' software (check out MS XP)
-Ban unfavorable reviews of software
-Legal prot
Brad isn't the only one to return from vacation to hear this most
disappointing news.
I'm a little shocked...from what I can tell, we are basically going to have
to pay for our technical support and service packs from now on. A whopping
$2K a year. Apparantly with penalty if you don't mainta
Rene wrote:
When I have a question I want it answered
> immediately, so I pick up the phone and call a colleague.
Since the introduction of this forum, I have had almost all of my questions,
and problems resolved by colleagues on this media. I would hope that the
ATS program would include sup
On 09:00 AM 8/11/2001 -0800, Brad Velander said:
>Hi all,
> seems in reading this message that I may have missed something
>significant while I was away on vacation. I did not receive any email about
>this "ATS", does anybody still have a copy of the email that they can
>forward to me? Was
I called their local representative here.
They admitted the message was not that clear.
The point is :
They introduce a service subscription named ATS.
You pay the amount for the period due and receive the latest
software for free. Forget that support bullshit, there never
was one, and possibl
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