Re: doNotTrack API feedback

2014-04-30 Thread Marcos
On April 29, 2014 at 8:36:20 AM, Anne van Kesteren (ann...@annevk.nl) wrote: > 4. It should be exposed in workers. See: http://heycam.github.io/webidl/#Exposed for the details of how to do that. Contains an example.  

Re: [charter] Joint work with TAG on their Packaging on the Web spec?; deadline May 21

2014-05-14 Thread Marcos
On May 14, 2014 at 2:48:12 PM, Arthur Barstow (art.bars...@gmail.com) wrote: > [ Bcc: www-tag; please Reply-to: public-webapps ] > If you have any comments, please send them by May 21 at the latest. We > are also interested in +1 type replies so we can a sense about who > supports this proposal.

Re: Fetch API

2014-05-29 Thread Marcos
On May 29, 2014 at 9:02:35 AM, Anne van Kesteren (ann...@annevk.nl) wrote: > The plan is to implement and ship this fairly soon, so I figured I'd > ask for review now, while we're still drafting the text: > > http://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/#fetch-api > > In particular I'd like feedback on the

Re: WebApp installation via the browser

2014-06-03 Thread Marcos
; and "exit extents". If you can give me some pointers to what you mean, I'm happy to go and do the research for the use cases, etc.   [#161] https://github.com/w3c/manifest/issues/161 --  Marcos Caceres

Re: WebIDL Spec Status

2014-06-23 Thread Marcos
the W3C process is clearly not working. Even if we were able to take the V1 bits to Rec (a lot of which is now obsolete), the V2 stuff is already widely supported and heavily relied on by browser vendors. IMO, it's a waste of everyone's time to try to maintain multiple versions.  --  Marcos Caceres

Re: WebIDL Spec Status

2014-06-24 Thread Marcos
> the chairs issue a call for volunteers for co-editor on WebIDL.  Anyone can edit the spec. It's just a github repo. Send a PR. There is no need for a special call from the Chairs as an excuse to do work. --  Marcos Caceres

Re: CFC

2016-05-24 Thread marcos
> On 25 May 2016, at 3:54 AM, Léonie Watson wrote: > > Hello WP, > > At the AC meeting in March 2016 the WP co-chairs indicated that the > Packaging on the Web specification [1] would benefit from further incubation > before continuing along the Recommendation track. > > This is a CFC to publ

Re: Request to move HTML5.1 to Candidate Recommendation (CR)

2016-06-02 Thread marcos
Can we please kindly stop the +1s spam? It greatly diminishes the value of this mailing list. For the purpose of progressing a spec, the only thing that matters is objections. > On 3 Jun 2016, at 12:36 AM, Mona Rekhi wrote: > > +1 > > Mona Rekhi > SSB BART Group > > -Original Messag

Re: Request to move HTML5.1 to Candidate Recommendation (CR)

2016-06-02 Thread marcos
> On 3 Jun 2016, at 2:28 AM, John Foliot wrote: > > Hi Marcos, > > While it may feel spammy to you, this is a long-standing part of the W3C > Consensus process, and generally speaking all CfCs include the following: > > "Positive responses are preferred an

Re: Quick update on WebIDL "Level 1"

2016-07-11 Thread marcos
> On 11 Jul 2016, at 10:45 PM, Yves Lafon wrote: > > The goal of publishing this as a REC is not to have a final document nor to > please only > the lawyers. The goal is to provide a document that contains the parts of the > WebIDL > syntax that are implemented, and the associated implemented

Re: [widgets] Plan to get Widget Updates LC ready?

2011-06-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Rich Tibbett wrote: > Arthur Barstow wrote: >> >> Richard, Marcos - what is the plan to get Widget Updates spec LC ready >> (see [1] for LC requirements)? >> >> http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-updates/ > > I think Marcos

Re: [widgets] What is the status and plan for Widget URI spec?

2011-07-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
registration. I'm afraid that I > simply don't have the bandwidth to handle that at this point. My preferred > approach would be to skip URI registration and register it after it's > successfully deployed as a de facto scheme but that's neither nice nor proper >

Re: [widgets] What is the status and plan for Widget URI spec?

2011-07-04 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Robin Berjon wrote: > On Jul 1, 2011, at 11:22 , Marcos Caceres wrote: >> Want to add dereferencing model. Can be a new spec layered on top. >> This would still be in scope of the charter, so it would not be an >> issue to create a new sp

Re: Test suites and RFC2119

2011-07-04 Thread Marcos Caceres
g in [1]. I was intending to modify the test suite and implementation reports template to do that. Some tests in Dig Sig and P&C are already marked as type="optional". At the end of the day, it is people that evaluate conformance and ratify specs... so it's not really a technical issue. > [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/test-methodology/ [1] needs so love. Will update it soon. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Publishing From-Origin Proposal as FPWD

2011-07-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
way to do this. Publishing a spec is just a formality which can lead to discussion. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Publishing From-Origin Proposal as FPWD

2011-07-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:12 PM, David Singer wrote: > > On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:57 , Marcos Caceres wrote: > >> Hi Brad, >> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Hill, Brad wrote: >>> Well, my disagreement is not with its content; I think we should not mov

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-11 Thread Marcos Caceres
to be an issue? I personally don't have a position on this, I'm just really interested because I had this come up in other (proprietary) contexts. Kind regards, Marcos

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-11 Thread Marcos Caceres
On 7/11/11 8:36 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Marcos Caceres wrote: On 7/11/11 8:23 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On the other hand, we should

[widgets] Interface Implementation report

2011-07-12 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi, Just noting that 4 implementations now pass the widgets interface test suite (and a 5th passes 97%). The implementation report is: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-api/imp-report/ -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] Implementing the Storage Event for widget preferences

2011-07-13 Thread Marcos Caceres
On 7/13/11 5:08 PM, Scott Wilson wrote: Hi, In my attempt to get our conformance level from 97% to 100%, I've been trying to implement the Storage Event requirement for widget.preferences in the Widget API spec [1]. I'm using the following JS code injected into the widget page to raise the event

Re: Indicating certificate order in XML Dig Sig

2011-07-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
On 7/1/11 4:46 PM, frederick.hir...@nokia.com wrote: Marcos I have added a comment in our tracker tool regarding addition of an informative reference and link to XML Signature Best Practices to Introduction/References of XML Signature 1.1 (and implicitly XML Signature 2.0 as well). See LC-2504

Re: [widgets] Implementing the Storage Event for widget preferences

2011-07-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
On 7/13/11 7:46 PM, Scott Wilson wrote: On 13 Jul 2011, at 16:41, Marcos Caceres wrote: On 7/13/11 5:08 PM, Scott Wilson wrote: Hi, In my attempt to get our conformance level from 97% to 100%, I've been trying to implement the Storage Event requirement for widget.preferences in the W

Re: [XHR]

2011-08-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
e given to them not the public. As above. Developers are not the only audience: this important for other people/groups. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-08-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
he HTML specification (with real authoritative legitimacy being determined by which version actually gets implemented and by who). It should be left to the editor's (or working group) discretion as to which spec they cite regardless of the reason. Kind regards, Marcos

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-08-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Philippe Le Hegaret wrote: > On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 17:18 +0200, Marcos Caceres wrote: >> > Again, what are the reasons to link to the WHATWG HTML version? >> >> If there is something you need that is not in the W3C spec, then it seems >

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-08-08 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Charles Pritchard wrote: > On 8/5/2011 9:23 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: >>>> >>>> >>  It should be left to the editor's (or working group) discretion as >>>> >> to which spec they cite regardless of the reason.

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-08-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
l of quality and IPR assurances - but the work will continue in both places regardless. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [WebIDL] remove modules

2011-08-12 Thread Marcos Caceres
hat would probably be fine. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [WebIDL] remove modules

2011-08-12 Thread Marcos Caceres
API specifications is larger than > W3C...). I don't think anyone was "objecting" (particularly not "the W3C", which is just an innocent bystander); the question is if there is any value/use case for module and is anyone really using it beyond what could be done with pros

Re: Re: Indicating certificate order in XML Dig Sig ( LC-2504)

2011-08-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
Approved! :) Thanks very much! On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 7:49 PM, wrote: > >  Dear Marcos Caceres , > > The XML Security Working Group has reviewed the comments you sent [1] on > the Last Call Working Draft [2] of the XML Signature Syntax and Processing > Version 1.1 publi

[widgets] CFC to republish Widget URI spec

2011-08-24 Thread Marcos Caceres
ument (i.e., HTML5's resolve URL algorithms). 2. Added straw-man for behaving like HTTP (inspired by FileAPI's blob://) 3. Generalized the dereferencing algorithm so non P&C compliant runtimes can use it. I will continue doing a minor cleanup over the next week. Kind regards, Marcos

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-09-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
on and debate during TPAC? I've said this a number of times, but I am getting to the point where I no longer want to put anything on TR because I've seen how harmful that can be (if I end up writing another spec at the W3C, I will not choose to publish it on TR without HTML5-like "BIG RED WARNING" and only to meet the IPR requirements… and continue to only link to editor's drafts). Kind regards, Marcos

Re: Standards for Web applications on mobile devices: August 2011 updates

2011-09-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
gets and ApplicationCache from the packaging section, can you please add View Mode Media Feature, Widget URI, and the Widget Interface, and Widget updates to the list (as they are a standard part of Widgets and implemented across some user agents… see implementation reports where available).

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-09-04 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Sunday, September 4, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 22:14:50 +0200, Marcos Caceres > mailto:marcosscace...@gmail.com)> wrote: > You can suggest a session on http://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2011/SessionIdeas > Depending on who attends it may

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-09-04 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Monday, September 5, 2011 at 5:53 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > Anyway, my point was just that Philippe's statement that an "editor's > draft" has "no special status" is false, and I stand by this: editors' > drafts are the most up-to-date revisions of their respective specs. Since > TR/ drafts

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-09-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
, but the W3C Process document seems to codify this. > bleeding edge quite often. It's a game of "who can have the latest and > greatest first and the best". Not always so. Other industries believe that having a stable reference point will cut down their interop issues (specially for environments where it's difficult to update software). I know, how ridiculous and illogical is that?! Kind regards, Marcos

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-09-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Julian, On Monday, 5 September 2011 at 20:54, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2011-09-05 16:13, Marcos Caceres wrote: > > ... > > Most don't, in my experience. Specially those from other consortia. They > > love cling the dated specs and then pretend they are somehow

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-09-06 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tuesday, September 6, 2011 at 4:56 PM, frederick.hir...@nokia.com wrote: > Hi Marcos > > Are you and Ian suggesting we eliminate the publication of WD versions on the > way to Rec and just keep the editors draft in TR space? Yes > > A major implication relate

Re: [widgets] Proposal to publish Widget Requirements and Widget Landscape docs as Working Group Notes; deadline Sep 23

2011-09-16 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Friday, 16 September 2011 at 20:04, Arthur Barstow wrote: > Marcos, All, > > To clearly state that WebApps' work on the Widget Requirements and > Widget Landscape documents has ended, I propose they be published as > Working Group Notes: > > http://www.w3.o

Re: Widgets & ApplicationCache (was: Standards for Web applications on mobile devices: August 2011 updates)

2011-09-16 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Dom, On Friday, 16 September 2011 at 19:55, Dominique Hazael-Massieux wrote: > Hi Marcos, > > Le samedi 03 septembre 2011 à 22:47 +0200, Marcos Caceres a écrit : > [sorry for the delay in responding] > > > Thank you for continuing to keep the document up to d

Re: Widgets & ApplicationCache (was: Standards for Web applications on mobile devices: August 2011 updates)

2011-09-17 Thread Marcos Caceres
cases. … now, more bla bla :) On Friday, 16 September 2011 at 16:00, Dominique Hazael-Massieux wrote: > Le vendredi 16 septembre 2011 à 21:36 +0700, Marcos Caceres a écrit : > > > I think they are actually not so different, and share many use cases. > > > > Ok,

Re: Widgets & ApplicationCache (was: Standards for Web applications on mobile devices: August 2011 updates)

2011-09-19 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Monday, September 19, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Dominique Hazael-Massieux wrote: > Le samedi 17 septembre 2011 à 10:30 +0100, Marcos Caceres a écrit : > > shortcut: if you want to (incorrectly, IMO) continue to lump widgets > > and app cache, then do so making it clear that this is

Re: [widgets] Proposal to publish Widget Requirements and Widget Landscape docs as Working Group Notes; deadline Sep 23

2011-09-19 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Monday, September 19, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: > FYI, there is some precedence for publishing Requirements docs as > Recommendations (e.g. OWL UCs and Reqs) . If we want to go that route, > it would presumably mean publishing a LC, skipping CR (not applicable > for this spec)

Re: [widgets] Proposal to publish Widget Requirements and Widget Landscape docs as Working Group Notes; deadline Sep 23

2011-09-20 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: > PLH says that ideally every spec ends as a WG Note or a Recommendation > but in practice groups need to consider other factors. In the case of > the Landscape doc, which was by definition (or at least by title) > transient, so l

Re: [widgets] Proposal to publish Widget Requirements and Widget Landscape docs as Working Group Notes; deadline Sep 23

2011-09-20 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: > On Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: > > PLH says that ideally every spec ends as a WG Note or a Recommendation > > but in practice groups need to consider other factors. In the c

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-20 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Robin Berjon (mailto:ro...@berjon.com)> wrote: > > Hi Charles, > > > > On Sep 20, 2011, at 17:15 , Charles Pritchard wrote: > > > There is certainly some overlap between DAP and WebApps. I

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-20 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: > While issuing a ton of patent exclusions for something like this would be > rather poor, I would frankly rather have that then a spec that doesn't get > any attention from a party that's clearly relevant only to have patents

[widgets] Killing file:// of evil (widget URI ready for pub)

2011-09-22 Thread Marcos Caceres
request. Doing so allows this URI scheme to be used with other technologies that rely on HTTP responses to function as intended, such as [XMLHTTPRequest]. As always, comments welcomed. Will probably sit on it for 2 weeks and then move it to LC. Kind regards, Marcos

Re: [widgets] Killing file:// of evil (widget URI ready for pub)

2011-09-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Friday, September 23, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Mark Baker wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Marcos Caceres > mailto:marcosscace...@gmail.com)> wrote: > Well, this is progress, but it seems the only difference now between > widget: and http: is the authority. And if that&#

Re: [widgets] Killing file:// of evil (widget URI ready for pub)

2011-09-26 Thread Marcos Caceres
m. > > > > On Sep 23, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Mark Baker (mailto:dist...@acm.org)> wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Marcos Caceres > (mailto:w...@marcosc.com)> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Marcos Caceres > > >

Re: [widgets] Killing file:// of evil (widget URI ready for pub)

2011-09-26 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Monday, September 26, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Robin Berjon wrote: > On Sep 23, 2011, at 18:26 , Mark Baker wrote: > > Well, this is progress, but it seems the only difference now between > > widget: and http: is the authority. And if that's the case, then > > instead of (from your example); > > >

Re: [widgets] Killing file:// of evil (widget URI ready for pub)

2011-09-26 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Mark Baker wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Marcos Caceres > wrote: >>> There are however many useful benefits in tying a packaged web application >>> (using whatever packaging) to an origin, not the least of which is &g

Biblio references and authors Re: RfC: LCWD of Web Socket API; comment deadline October 21

2011-09-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Friday, September 30, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2011-09-29 18:28, Arthur Barstow wrote: > > On September 29, aLCWD of Web Sockets API was published: > > > > http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-websockets-20110929/ > > > > Please send all comments to public-webapps@w3.org > > (m

Re: Biblio references and authors Re: RfC: LCWD of Web Socket API; comment deadline October 21

2011-09-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Friday, September 30, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2011-09-30 10:37, Marcos Caceres wrote: > > > > > > On Friday, September 30, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > > > > > On 2011-09-29 18:28, Arthur Barstow wrote: > > >

Generic guide to exceptions, events, etc. for new APIs Re: [indexeddb] New WebIDL Exception Model for IndexedDB

2011-10-02 Thread Marcos Caceres
ebinos and WAC). Perhaps the best thing to do would be to create a wiki page that defines how to do this using some very generic examples. What would be great would be to see how the prose maps to the IDL and how the IDL maps to a real object in Java script… and also show how the DOM4 spec takes care of setting the code and the message…. so, a "Exceptions and events for [Spec Writing] Dummies" would be greatly appreciated (and will avoid a few common mistakes). -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

[DOM4] XML lang

2011-10-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
OfElements = document.getElementsByLang("en-us"); listOfElements[1].lang == "en"; listOfElements[0].lang == "en-us"; [lookup] http://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp47#page-2-12 -- Marcos Caceres

Re: [DOM4] XML lang

2011-10-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wednesday, 5 October 2011 at 10:14, Marcos Caceres wrote: > Would it be possible to add something to DOM4 to allow one to find out what > language (xml:lang) was inherited from up the chain, if any? > > Use cases: > > 1. I need to find elements of a particular type/

Re: [DOM4] XML lang

2011-10-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wednesday, October 5, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Robin Berjon wrote: > Unless you're dealing with documents of incredible depth, walking up the tree > should really not be all that costly. What's more, since you're dealing with > a tree that doesn't change, you can walk the tree once and precompute

Re: [DOM4] XML lang

2011-10-05 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wednesday, October 5, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > On 10/5/11 4:14 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: > > 1. I need to find elements of a particular type/name that are in a > > particular language (in tree order), so that I can extract that information > > to display

Re: Generic guide to exceptions, events, etc. for new APIs Re: [indexeddb] New WebIDL Exception Model for IndexedDB

2011-10-06 Thread Marcos Caceres
at we once took for granted > (for example, having a dedicated exception such as FileException, etc.). Robin took the initiative to create a skeleton: http://test.w3.org/webapps/api-design/ Maybe we can do a quick breakout session with Anne and anyone else interested during TPAC and fill it in. We just need quick bullet points and Robin and I can add examples etc. Kind regards, Marcos

Re: CfC: publish a Candidate Recommendation of DOM 3 Events; deadline October 21

2011-10-21 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Friday, 21 October 2011 at 21:42, Ms2ger wrote: > Hi Art, all, > > On 10/14/2011 09:27 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: > > The people working on the D3E spec (namely Jacob, Doug and Olli) propose > > below that the spec be published as a Candidate Recommendation and this > > is a CfC to do so: > >

Re: CfC: publish a Candidate Recommendation of DOM 3 Events; deadline October 21

2011-10-24 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Monday, 24 October 2011 at 20:33, Arthur Barstow wrote: > In Marcos Caceres' objection [Objection-2], he asserts some of the > overlaps and redundancies between D3E and DOM4 are confusing and > requests the D3E spec clarify its relationship to DOM4. I encourage > Marcos

Re: [widgets] Widget Interface test cases

2011-11-09 Thread Marcos Caceres
("test2") === 'protected' && prefs.getItem("test3") === > '123abc'){ > Again, the test should indicate the preference is undefined, not null. > I agree with your changes (the tests are bad). If you want to go ahead and make those changes, then please do so. Otherwise, I will update them in the next few days. I'll ping the list (and you) once its done. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [DRAFT] Web Intents Task Force Charter

2011-11-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
lers just automagically appear in the list of intent handlers. -- Marcos Caceres

Re: [DRAFT] Web Intents Task Force Charter

2011-11-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
es what you want, but up to you to show that it doesn't do something you want through a prototype (or similar) to do. If your prototype breaks down because the intents system doesn't work without extensions, then we have something to work from. Agree? -- Marcos Caceres

Re: [DRAFT] Web Intents Task Force Charter

2011-11-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
-- Marcos Caceres On Thursday, November 10, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Rich Tibbett wrote: > Marcos Caceres wrote: > > > > On Thursday, November 10, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Robin Berjon wrote: > > > > > It's important to separate Intents as currently proposed and what

Re: [DRAFT] Web Intents Task Force Charter

2011-11-10 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thursday, 10 November 2011 at 22:53, timeless wrote: > #2 is obviously more exciting for vendors trying to proxy to non web > things, but IMO that's an implementation detail or potentially a > supplemental Note/Specification. Agreed. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: Dropping XMLHttpRequest 1 (just do 2)?

2011-11-14 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Monday, November 14, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Giuseppe Pascale wrote: > I would like to point out that there could be other specifications out in > the wild referencing XHR 1. > > This doesn't mean that you should not drop XHR 1, but would be good if the > WG prepares a (short) note that gives the

Re: CfC: publish a Candidate Recommendation of Web Storage; deadline Nov 25

2011-11-18 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Friday, November 18, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: > As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged > and silence will be considered as agreeing with the proposal. The > deadline for comments is November 25 and all comments should be sent to > public-webapps a

Widgets are moving to Native Web Apps CG

2011-11-20 Thread Marcos Caceres
.org/community/native-web-apps/ Or please subscribe to our mailing list: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-native-web-apps/ If you have any questions, please email me. Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

[Widgets] WidgetStorage interface

2011-11-21 Thread Marcos Caceres
Storage{} And hence: readonly attribute Storage preferences; Becomes: readonly attribute WidgetStorage preferences; In practice, the addition of WidgetStorage doesn't actually affect any conforming runtimes (but allows a bunch of new Webkit ones to comply). Kind regards,

Re: [Widgets] WidgetStorage interface

2011-11-21 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Monday, 21 November 2011 at 21:42, Robin Berjon wrote: > On Nov 21, 2011, at 18:08 , Marcos Caceres wrote: > > As part of LC, I've received quite a bit of offline feedback that because > > of some issue in Webkit, it's difficult for implementers to reuse the >

Re: XPath and find/findAll methods

2011-11-21 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Nov 21, 2011 11:29 PM, "Martin Kadlec" wrote: > > On Monday, 21 November 2011 2:18 PM, "James Robinson" wrote: > > > XPath is dead on the web. Let's leave it that way. > > > > - James > > Why? XPath is in lot's of cases much more powerful than CSS selectors and all browsers support it in some

Re: [Widgets] WidgetStorage interface

2011-11-22 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Monday, November 21, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Marcos Caceres wrote: > > > On Monday, 21 November 2011 at 21:42, Robin Berjon wrote: > > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 18:08 , Marcos Caceres wrote: > > > As part of LC, I've received quite a bit of offline feedback that

Re: [Widgets] WidgetStorage interface

2011-11-22 Thread Marcos Caceres
would make programming its behavior > more easy. Because it's reflected as a new class. In Webkit, it seems, you can't have two objects that implement Storage, but behave slightly differently. So, having WidgetStorage frees Webkit implementers to have all the goodness of WebStorage, but an object that stringyfies to [object WidgetStorage]… stupid, I know… but c'est la vie. -- Marcos Caceres

Re: [Widgets] WidgetStorage interface

2011-11-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: > On 11/21/11 12:08 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: > > Hi, > > As part of LC, I've received quite a bit of offline feedback that because > > of some issue in Webkit, it's difficult for implemente

Re: [Widgets] WidgetStorage interface

2011-11-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Robin Berjon wrote: > On Nov 23, 2011, at 14:51 , Marcos Caceres wrote: > > > The proposed change would require the spec going back to LC. Is that > > > correct? > > > > > > > > Don't know. The c

Re: CfC: publish WG Note of the "old" XHR(1); deadline December 8

2011-12-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thursday, 1 December 2011 at 19:25, Arthur Barstow wrote: > Adrian proposed the old XHR(1) spec be published as a WG Note (to > clearly state work on that spec has stopped) and this is a Call for > Consensus to do so. I object to doing so. It will just cause more confusion. Please lets on

Re: Standards for Web applications on mobile devices: November 2011 updates

2011-12-06 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tuesday, 6 December 2011 at 08:58, Dominique Hazael-Massieux wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just released a new version of “Standards for Web Applications on > Mobile” that takes into account the latest changes in the open Web > platform: > http://www.w3.org/2011/11/mobile-web-app-state.html >

Re: Standards for Web applications on mobile devices: November 2011 updates

2011-12-06 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wednesday, 7 December 2011 at 00:47, Arthur Barstow wrote: > On 12/6/11 7:01 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: > > I'm also concerned at use of the terms "limited" and "very limited" to > > label "current implementations" as being both subj

Re: Standards for Web applications on mobile devices: November 2011 updates

2011-12-07 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wednesday, 7 December 2011 at 09:51, Dominique Hazael-Massieux wrote: > Le mercredi 07 décembre 2011 à 00:01 +0000, Marcos Caceres a écrit : > > Although I think this document is quite informative, I again would > > like to raise objections about lumping app cache and w

Re: Web IDL sequence and item() method

2011-12-11 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Sunday, 11 December 2011 at 12:21, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 19:51:48 +0100, Glenn Adams (mailto:gl...@skynav.com)> wrote: > > If the answer is that no item() method is implied, then does the use of > > sequence in these newer specs entail dropping this method (with > >

Re: [FileAPI] Length of the opaque string for blob URLs

2011-12-14 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 at 1:03 AM, Adrian Bateman wrote: > The current spec requires the opaque string in Blob URLs to be at least > 36 characters in length [1]. Our implementation doesn't currently use a > UUID and the length of the string is shorter than 36 characters. While > I have

Re: CfC: publish new WD of DOM4; deadline December 21

2011-12-14 Thread Marcos Caceres
them to public-webapps by December 21 at the latest. > > As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged > and silence will be assumed to be agreement with the proposal. > > (Given the end of the year publication blackout, if this CfC passes, the > WD will

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-14 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tuesday, December 13, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Philippe Le Hegaret wrote: > On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 13:14 -0500, Arthur Barstow wrote: > > An other one was for the Director to decide to move the document forward > anyway because W-DigSig doesn't depend on ECC. > > Thomas, any suggestion? > I person

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-14 Thread Marcos Caceres
to the AC etc, I'm rather pessimistic about a quick > resolution. That's fine. That just makes for a stronger case to put to the Director (or for doing what Artb suggested, and moving the ECC to a future version of XML Dig Sig). -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Marcos Caceres wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 14 December 2011 at 21:06, Rigo Wenning wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > as the PAG chair of this XMLSEC PAG, let me tell you that support from the > > industry in sor

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thursday, December 15, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Brian LaMacchia wrote: > Hello all, > > Sorry for coming to this thread late (I'm on vacation) but I want to comment > on a number of points raised during this thread: > > 1) Concerning the suggestion to move ECDSA out of XMLDSIG 1.1, that > sugge

Widget-DSig's choice of RSA-4096 Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
;ve personally tested around 5 different runtimes (from WAC) and have never noticed any performance issue at boot (no real difference then starting a native app or anything I could perceive). Maybe I'm missing something? Kind regards, Marcos -- Marcos Caceres

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-16 Thread Marcos Caceres
without need to wait on the resolution of the PAG... And the automatically benefits once the PAG sorts itself out. Simple and beautiful! :) Kind regards, Marcos On Thursday, December 15, 2011, Marcos Caceres wrote: > > > On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Marcos Caceres wrote:

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-18 Thread Marcos Caceres
ing process": specs are buggy, tests are buggy, and software is buggy… any of those can affect an conformance over time: the are all living things). Pretending that slapping a date on spec means anything is unhelpful (and actually harmful, because all specs contain bugs and hence must be continuously maintained). -- Marcos Caceres

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-18 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Dec 18, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > On 12/18/11 2:31 PM, "Marcos Caceres" wrote: >> On Sunday, December 18, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: >>> Undated references (what you are suggesting) has the MAJOR PROBLEM that >>> i

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-19 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Monday, December 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Jean-Claude Dufourd wrote: > On 18/12/11 20:31 , Marcos Caceres wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 18, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > > > > > Undated references (what you are suggesting) has the MAJOR P

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-19 Thread Marcos Caceres
Jean-Claude, On Monday, December 19, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Jean-Claude Dufourd wrote: > Marcos > > You are replying beside the point everywhere. > Please read again what Leonard wrote about undated references. Leonard > is right. I'm sorry, but Leonard is not correct: this

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-21 Thread Marcos Caceres
. 2. Pointing to /latest/ Pros: - Always pointing to Rec - Conformance always bound to latest Rec Cons: - As XML Dig Sig does not include SHA-256, this does not currently help Widgets Dig Sig progress - Conformance always bound to latest Rec Kind regar

Re: [FileAPI] Remove readAsBinaryString?

2011-12-22 Thread Marcos Caceres
, as part of this living spec process, we maintain a living journal of > deprecated APIs. +1 Please see WebIDL's change logs… they are pretty good. I've had a few "Bob" moments as described above, and the WebIDL logs have been wonderfully helpful and informative. -- Marcos Caceres http://datadriven.com.au

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-22 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 16:25, Rigo Wenning wrote: > Hi Art, > > the pessimistic XMLSECPAG chair told you that it wouldn't resolve within > days. > But I hope to have a clear view and plan by the end of January. Executing > that > plan may take some time. Plan is to resolve unti

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-29 Thread Marcos Caceres
elpful and I'm not sure I understand the urgency related to widgets > apart from a desire to mark it as complete. The urgency is just that (getting it to Rec). But academically, the other arguments that were made are valid. Those were: * a /latest/ location * decupling algori

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-29 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thursday, 29 December 2011 at 16:18, frederick.hir...@nokia.com wrote: > Marcos > > My expectation is that we should have a PAG update on progress in the first > week of January (hopefully) and a timeline like Rigo noted, with full > resolution of the iPR issue by March

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2012-01-03 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thursday, 29 December 2011 at 16:22, Marcos Caceres wrote: > > > > On Thursday, 29 December 2011 at 16:18, frederick.hir...@nokia.com > (mailto:frederick.hir...@nokia.com) wrote: > > > Marcos > > > > My expectation is that we should have a PAG updat

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