Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-06-06 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au writes: Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net writes: list of possible features for 3.3 as specified by PEP 398: Candidate PEPs: […] * PEP 3143: Standard daemon process library Our porting work will not be done in time for Python 3.3. I will update

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-06-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 06, 2012, at 05:55 PM, Ben Finney wrote: The PEP document currently says it targets “3.x”. I'll leave it in that state until we're more confident that the current work will be on track for a particular Python release. Do I need to do anything in particular to be explicit that PEP 3143 is

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On 05/02/2012 02:24 AM, Ben Finney wrote: Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net writes: list of possible features for 3.3 as specified by PEP 398: Candidate PEPs: […] * PEP 3143: Standard daemon process library I think that http://0pointer.de/public/systemd-man/daemon.html would a good addition

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-02 Thread Larry Hastings
On 05/01/2012 01:12 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: That would be great! First thing is addressing Guido's concerns from http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-March/117515.html and then handling any issues you found. Not sure if Larry was asking about this out of curiosity or because he too

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-02 Thread Yury Selivanov
On 2012-05-01, at 4:12 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: That would be great! First thing is addressing Guido's concerns from http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-March/117515.html and then handling any issues you found. Not sure if Larry was asking about this out of curiosity or

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-02 Thread Yury Selivanov
On 2012-05-02, at 2:46 AM, Larry Hastings wrote: On 05/01/2012 01:12 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: That would be great! First thing is addressing Guido's concerns from http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-March/117515.html and then handling any issues you found. Not sure if Larry was

[Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Georg Brandl
With 3.3a3 tagged and the beta stage currently 2 months away, I would like to draw your attention to the following list of possible features for 3.3 as specified by PEP 398: Candidate PEPs: * PEP 362: Function Signature Object * PEP 395: Qualified Names for Modules * PEP 397: Python launcher for

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Eric V. Smith
On 5/1/2012 7:57 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: With 3.3a3 tagged and the beta stage currently 2 months away, I would like to draw your attention to the following list of possible features for 3.3 as specified by PEP 398: ... Also, if I missed any obvious candidate PEP or change, please let me know.

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Eric V. Smith
On 5/1/2012 8:11 AM, Eric V. Smith wrote: On 5/1/2012 7:57 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: With 3.3a3 tagged and the beta stage currently 2 months away, I would like to draw your attention to the following list of possible features for 3.3 as specified by PEP 398: ... Also, if I missed any obvious

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote: With 3.3a3 tagged and the beta stage currently 2 months away, I would like to draw your attention to the following list of possible features for 3.3 as specified by PEP 398: A few of those are on my plate, soo... * PEP 395:

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Eli Bendersky
* PEP 3144: IP Address manipulation library This is pretty close to approval. Peter's addressed all the substantive comments that were made regarding the draft API, and he's going to provide an update to the PEP shortly that should get it into a state where I can mark it as Approved.

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: * PEP 3144: IP Address manipulation library This is pretty close to approval. Peter's addressed all the substantive comments that were made regarding the draft API, and he's going to provide an update to the PEP shortly

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2012/5/1 Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com: Will this package go through the provisional state mandated by PEP 411 ? I don't see PEP 411 requiring any module to go through its process. -- Regards, Benjamin ___ Python-Dev mailing list

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: 2012/5/1 Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com: Will this package go through the provisional state mandated by PEP 411 ? I don't see PEP 411 requiring any module to go through its process. Indeed, it's a decision to be

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Yury Selivanov
On 2012-05-01, at 7:57 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: With 3.3a3 tagged and the beta stage currently 2 months away, I would like to draw your attention to the following list of possible features for 3.3 as specified by PEP 398: Candidate PEPs: * PEP 362: Function Signature Object Regarding PEP

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 07:57, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote: With 3.3a3 tagged and the beta stage currently 2 months away, I would like to draw your attention to the following list of possible features for 3.3 as specified by PEP 398: Candidate PEPs: * PEP 362: Function Signature

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 01, 2012, at 11:30 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: * Breaking out standard library and docs in separate repos? Our current development infrastructure simply isn't set up to cope with this. With both 407 and 413 still open (and not likely to go anywhere any time soon), this simply isn't going to

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 01, 2012, at 08:24 AM, Eric V. Smith wrote: Oops, I missed your reference to PEP 402 and PEP 420. Sorry about that. It is indeed 420 that would replace 402. And the older PEP 382. Once 420 is accepted, we should simply reject 382 and 402. At that point, I'll update them to point to

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 16:43, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: 2012/5/1 Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com: Will this package go through the provisional state mandated by PEP 411 ? I don't see PEP 411 requiring any module to go through its process. You're right, it doesn't require

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Martin v. Löwis
* PEP 397: Python launcher for Windows I hope to submit a rewrite of this PEP RSN. Also, if I missed any obvious candidate PEP or change, please let me know. A big pending change is the switch to a new Visual Studio release. The challenge here is that we need to stop using the outdated VS

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Georg Brandl
On 01.05.2012 16:26, Yury Selivanov wrote: On 2012-05-01, at 7:57 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: With 3.3a3 tagged and the beta stage currently 2 months away, I would like to draw your attention to the following list of possible features for 3.3 as specified by PEP 398: Candidate PEPs: * PEP

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Georg Brandl
On 01.05.2012 17:48, Martin v. Löwis wrote: * PEP 397: Python launcher for Windows I hope to submit a rewrite of this PEP RSN. Good to hear. Also, if I missed any obvious candidate PEP or change, please let me know. A big pending change is the switch to a new Visual Studio release. The

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Georg Brandl
On 01.05.2012 15:30, Nick Coghlan wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote: With 3.3a3 tagged and the beta stage currently 2 months away, I would like to draw your attention to the following list of possible features for 3.3 as specified by PEP 398: A few

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread martin
Do you know when a more detailed schedule for VS 2012 will be available (and confirmation regarding XP support)? Unfortunately, Microsoft doesn't publish any release dates. It's ready when it's ready :-( I just search again, and it appears that some roadmap has leaked:

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Éric Araujo
Hi, Le 01/05/2012 09:30, Nick Coghlan a écrit : * PEP 3144: IP Address manipulation library This is pretty close to approval. Peter's addressed all the substantive comments that were made regarding the draft API, and he's going to provide an update to the PEP shortly that should get it into a

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:26, Yury Selivanov yselivanov...@gmail.comwrote: On 2012-05-01, at 7:57 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: With 3.3a3 tagged and the beta stage currently 2 months away, I would like to draw your attention to the following list of possible features for 3.3 as specified by

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Ben Finney
Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net writes: list of possible features for 3.3 as specified by PEP 398: Candidate PEPs: […] * PEP 3143: Standard daemon process library Our porting work will not be done in time for Python 3.3. I will update this to target Python 3.4. -- \ “The best

Re: [Python-Dev] Open PEPs and large-scale changes for 3.3

2012-05-01 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org wrote: Hi, Le 01/05/2012 09:30, Nick Coghlan a écrit : * PEP 3144: IP Address manipulation library This is pretty close to approval. Peter's addressed all the substantive comments that were made regarding the draft API, and he's