n you may want a
PyPA or conda package... and there's more.
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> On 19/05/2024 08.49, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> [...]
> > That's what package management on Linux is for. Sure, it means that you
> >
On 2024-05-20 00:26:03 +0200, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote:
> Skip Montanaro via Python-list schreef op 20/05/2024 om 0:08:
> > > Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
> >
> > Even if you're telling it to install in ~/.local?
On 5/19/2024 6:00 PM, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote:
Am Sun, May 19, 2024 at 10:45:09PM +0100 schrieb Barry via Python-list:
On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
wrote:
I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block
On 5/19/2024 6:34 PM, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2024-05-19, Barry via Python-list wrote:
On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
wrote:
I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip
On 5/19/2024 6:08 PM, Skip Montanaro via Python-list wrote:
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
Even if you're telling it to install in ~/.local? I could see not allowing
to run it as root.
I honestly haven't tried. Maybe I should... 樂 I have an old laptop
On 2024-05-19, Barry via Python-list wrote:
>
>
>> On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
>> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs
>
> Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
You can'
On 2024-05-19, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2024 08:32:46 +0100, Alan Gauld wrote:
>
>> I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare".
>> I install stuff and it just works.
>
> Hear! Hear! Me too! And all that.
>
> I'm on Man
Skip Montanaro via Python-list schreef op 20/05/2024 om 0:08:
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
>
Even if you're telling it to install in ~/.local? I could see not allowing
to run it as root.
I assumed pip install --user would work, but no. I tr
ile the most recent
branches on GitHub (main, 3.12, & 3.13 at the moment).
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Am Sun, May 19, 2024 at 10:45:09PM +0100 schrieb Barry via Python-list:
> > On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
> > wrote:
> >
> > I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs
>
> Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users instal
> On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip.
You must use a venv to pip install packages from pypi now.
This is implemented in py
On 2024-05-19 at 18:13:23 +,
Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote:
> Was there a reason they chose the name Pip?
Package Installer for Python
https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/index.html
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On 2024-05-19 19:13, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2024 08:32:46 +0100, Alan Gauld wrote:
I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare".
I install stuff and it just works.
Hear! Hear! Me too! And all that.
I'm on Manjaro, which is a tad finicky about ot
On 2024-05-19 at 18:13:23 +,
Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote:
> Was there a reason they chose the name Pip?
Package Installer for Python
https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/index.html
Every time I see PIP, I think Peripheral Interchange Program, but I'm
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On 18/05/2024 19:12, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote:
[snip]
The dependency nightmare created by python, pip
and all the rest cannot be resolved otherwise.
I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare".
I ins
On 2024-05-19, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
>> The dependency nightmare created by python, pip
>> and all the rest cannot be resolved otherwise.
>
> I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare".
> I install stuff and it just works.
Same here. I occasonl
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On 18/05/2024 19:12, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote:
>> So venvs make managing all that pretty convenient. Dunno why everybody's
>> so down on venvs...
Not so much down on them, they are just one extra step that's
mostly not needed(in my use case)
> Only people which
On 2024-05-18 20:12:33 +0200, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote:
> On 18/05/2024 20.04, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> > So venvs make managing all that pretty convenient. Dunno why everybody's
> > so down on venvs...
>
> Only people which are *not* using python... :-)
>
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created by python, pip
and all the rest cannot be resolved otherwise.
It seems backward compatibility is a taboo...
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Two interesting ones:
- Norwegian library: https://fosstodon.org/@osdotsystem/112459312723574625
- One about if Ai will take our jobs, using py to find out and she
concludes it will
On Sat, 18 May 2024, 14:15 Chris Angelico via Python-list, <
python-list@python.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 19
On 2024-05-18, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
> Distros have do offer a good selection of packaged Python bits, yes, but
> only for the version of Python that's "native" to that distro release.
> If you need to test other versions of Python, you're mostly on your own.
On Sun, 19 May 2024 at 04:10, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer via Python-list
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> Yes, this year's pretty exciting, great keynotes, great lightnings, great
> location, great even sponsor talks (thought they would be pumping a lot of
> marketing, but the ones i went were pretty awesome
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On 5/18/24 10:48, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2024-05-18, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
On 2024-05-16 19:46:07 +0100, Gordinator via Python-list wrote:
To be fair, the problem is the fact that they use Windows (but I
guess Linux users have to deal with venvs, so we're
On 2024-05-18, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
> On 2024-05-16 19:46:07 +0100, Gordinator via Python-list wrote:
>
>> To be fair, the problem is the fact that they use Windows (but I
>> guess Linux users have to deal with venvs, so we're even.
>
> I don't think
On 2024-05-16 19:46:07 +0100, Gordinator via Python-list wrote:
> To be fair, the problem is the fact that they use Windows (but I guess Linux
> users have to deal with venvs, so we're even.
I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs any more than Windows
users. Maybe even less b
On 2024-05-14 22:37:17 +0200, Mirko via Python-list wrote:
> Am 14.05.24 um 19:44 schrieb Gordinator via Python-list:
> > I wish to write a terminal emulator in Python. I am a fairly competent
> > Python user, and I wish to try a new project idea. What references can I
> >
On 2024-05-14 16:03:33 -0400, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
> On 2024-05-14, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> > On 14/05/2024 18:44, Gordinator via Python-list wrote:
> >
> >> I wish to write a terminal emulator in Python. I am a fairly
> >> compete
On Sat, 18 May 2024 at 21:44, Skip Montanaro via Python-list
wrote:
>
> >
> > > I’m at PyCon in Pittsburgh and I’m haven’t an amazing time!
> >
> > s/haven’t/having/
> >
>
> No need to explain/correct. We understand you are excited. Many of us have
>
>
> > I’m at PyCon in Pittsburgh and I’m haven’t an amazing time!
>
> s/haven’t/having/
>
No need to explain/correct. We understand you are excited. Many of us have
been in the same state before. ;-)
Enjoy,
Skip
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> I’m at PyCon in Pittsburgh and I’m haven’t an amazing time!
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to complain that they cannot get
to install properly?
To be fair, the problem is the fact that they use Windows (but I guess
Linux users have to deal with venvs, so we're even.
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import. To make this even worse,
this behavior used to depend on whether you start Python with PDB
active or not (with PDB, the current working directory wasn't added to
the path, and module imports resolved differently). I'm not quite sure
which version of Python fixed that.
On Wed, May 15, 20
have
worked on projects in the past where only the standard library could be
used, so I 100% agree with this. But that's something for the PSF to
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On 2024-05-15 19:42, Popov, Dmitry Yu via Python-list wrote:
What would be the easiest way to learn which version of NumPy I have with my
Anaconda distribution?
Import numpy and print its '__version__' attribute.
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Thank you.
From: Larry Martell
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 1:55 PM
To: Popov, Dmitry Yu
Cc: Popov, Dmitry Yu via Python-list
Subject: Re: Version of NymPy
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 2: 43 PM Popov, Dmitry Yu via Python-list wrote: > > What would be the e
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 2:43 PM Popov, Dmitry Yu via Python-list
wrote:
>
> What would be the easiest way to learn which version of NumPy I have with my
> Anaconda distribution?
>>> import numpy
>>> numpy.__version__
'1.24.4'
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What would be the easiest way to learn which version of NumPy I have with my
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widget or something like
that.
Start with the `pty` module.
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what stream of bytes to send to update a screen.
You might be able to use something similar, or better, to see what your
terminal emulator should emulate.
And, it may even be possible for you to emulate lots of terminals with the
same basic code.
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Am 14.05.24 um 19:44 schrieb Gordinator via Python-list:
I wish to write a terminal emulator in Python. I am a fairly
competent Python user, and I wish to try a new project idea. What
references can I use when writing my terminal emulator? I wish for
it to be a true terminal emulator as well
On 2024-05-14, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> On 14/05/2024 18:44, Gordinator via Python-list wrote:
>
>> I wish to write a terminal emulator in Python. I am a fairly
>> competent Python user, and I wish to try a new project idea. What
>> references can I use
On 2024-05-14, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> On 14/05/2024 18:44, Gordinator via Python-list wrote:
>
>> I wish to write a terminal emulator in Python. I am a fairly
>> competent Python user, and I wish to try a new project idea. What
>> references can I use
On 14/05/2024 18:44, Gordinator via Python-list wrote:
> I wish to write a terminal emulator in Python. I am a fairly competent
> Python user, and I wish to try a new project idea. What references can I
> use when writing my terminal emulator? I wish for it to be a true
> termi
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On 5/12/2024 7:56 PM, Enrder via Python-list wrote:
good tader
I need help to install the bcml, and is that after installing the python
and I go to the command prompt and put ''pip install bcml'' to install it
tells me "pip" is not recognized as an internal or extern
DeepL.com (free version)
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On 5/10/24 03:39, Tripura Seersha via Python-list wrote:
Hi Barry,
Automation is using the system account using which the installation is failing
with exit code 3. This account has the administrative privileges.
Please help me with this issue.
Thanks,
Seersha
You probably have a better
Hi Barry,
Automation is using the system account using which the installation is failing
with exit code 3. This account has the administrative privileges.
Please help me with this issue.
Thanks,
Seersha
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on behalf of Tripura Seersha via
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Thomas Wouters @thomas <https://discuss.python.org/u/thomas>
Łukasz Langa @ambv <https://discuss.python.org/u/ambv>
Ned Deily @nad <https://discuss.python.org/u/nad>
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Thank you!
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Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 3:56 AM
To: python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: Use of statement 'global' in scripts.
On 8/05/24 1: 32 pm, Popov, Dmitry Yu wrote: > The statement 'glo
.
spam = 17
def f():
global spam
spam = 42
f()
# spam is now 42
A script is a module, so everything that applies to modules also
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differences, I would
really appreciate any comments on this.
Regards,
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remained as a part of the installer.
Please help me with this issue.
Thanks,
Tripura
From: Barry
Sent: 03 May 2024 22:34
To: Tripura Seersha
Cc: python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: Issues with uninstalling python versions on windows server
> On 3 May 2024, at
On Tue, 7 May 2024 at 03:42, jak via Python-list wrote:
>
> Loris Bennett ha scritto:
> > r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
> >
> >>Me (indented by 2) and the chatbot (flush left). Lines lengths > 72!
> >
> > Is there a name for th
On Tue, 7 May 2024 at 03:38, Alan Bawden via Python-list
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> A good error message shouldn't withhold any information that can
> _easily_ be included. Debugging is more art than science, so there is
> no real way to predict what information might prove useful in solving
> t
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s != TEXT('\n') && *s != TEXT('\r'))
*d++ = *s;
}
else if(*s == TEXT(' ') || *s == TEXT('\n') || *s == TEXT('\r'))
{
if(d[-1] != TEXT(' '))
*d++ = TEXT(' ');
}
else
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etc.) It's tedious and prone to
errors. So, if you really want to do this automatically for every
error that's going to be quite a bit of work.
On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 6:58 PM Johanne Fairchild via Python-list
wrote:
>
> How to discover what values produced an exception? Or perhaps---why
>
Thomas Passin writes:
On 5/3/2024 9:56 AM, Johanne Fairchild via Python-list wrote:
> How to discover what values produced an exception? Or perhaps---why
> doesn't the Python traceback show the values involved in the TypeError?
> For instance:
&
On 5/3/24 05:55, Tripura Seersha via Python-list wrote:
Hi Team,
I am working on an automation related to uninstalling and installing python
versions on different windows servers.
I have observed that uninstallation is working only with the account/login
using which the python version
On 2024-05-02 16:34:38 +0200, Loris Bennett via Python-list wrote:
> r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
> > Me (indented by 2) and the chatbot (flush left). Lines lengths > 72!
>
> Is there a name for this kind of indentation, i.e. the stuff you are
> writing
On 2024-05-03 at 10:56:39 -0300,
Johanne Fairchild via Python-list wrote:
> How to discover what values produced an exception? Or perhaps---why
> doesn't the Python traceback show the values involved in the TypeError?
> For instance:
he values will help much.
Usually, a more thorough analysis is required to find out the bug
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How to discover what values produced an exception? Or perhaps---why
doesn't the Python traceback show the values involved in the TypeError?
For instance:
--8<>8---
(0,
> On 3 May 2024, at 17:43, Tripura Seersha via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> Hi Team,
>
> I am working on an automation related to uninstalling and installing python
> versions on different windows servers.
>
> I have observed that uninstallation is working only with
upported between instances of 'tuple' and 'int'
in (0,0) < 4.
--8<>8---
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in (dict(replacements),)
for s in
re.split("\\b(" + "|".join(re.escape(s[0]) for s in
replacements) + ")\\b", text)
)
How about just:
repl = {
"a" : "b",
"c" : "d",
"e" : "f",
"g" : "h",
}
"".join(repl.get(s, s) for s in re.split(r"\b", text))
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ation. You seem to use it in all your
postings, too, which hurts my brain, but I guess that's my problem :-)
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, repair and uninstall. I am unable to identify which component has still
remained as a part of the installer.
Could you please help me resolve these issues.
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Richard Damon ha scritto:
On Apr 29, 2024, at 12:23 PM, jak via Python-list
wrote:
Hi everyone,
one thing that I do not understand is happening to me: I have some text
files with different characteristics, among these there are that they
have an UTF_32_le coding, utf_32be, utf_16_le
> On Apr 29, 2024, at 12:23 PM, jak via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> one thing that I do not understand is happening to me: I have some text
> files with different characteristics, among these there are that they
> have an UTF_32_le coding, utf_32be, utf_16_le,
ce between
them.
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with encoding='utf_16_be' and
with 'utf_16_le' without errors but in the last case the bytes are
inverted. What did I not understand? What am I doing wrong?
thanks in advance
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Since pip is able to create ipython.exe with path to my python
embedded for example, i assume i already have all i need in my python
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ped to get the desired form as a list of pairs.
And this is a technique very similar to reverse engineering. Thanks for
the explanation and examples. All this is really clear and I was able to
follow it easily because I have already written a version of this code
in C without any kind of external library that uses the .CSV version of
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Stefan Ram ha scritto:
df = df.where( df == 'zz' ).stack().reset_index()
result ={ 'zz': list( zip( df.iloc[ :, 0 ], df.iloc[ :, 1 ]))}
Since I don't know Pandas, I will need a month at least to understand
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top import child1' the error changes to
ImportError: cannot import name 'child1' from 'top' (unknown location)
How can I make this work?
Best wishes,
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On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 1:10 PM Mats Wichmann via Python-list <
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> On 4/13/24 07:00, jak via Python-list wrote:
>
> doesn't Pandas have a "where" method that can do this kind of thing? Or
> doesn't it match what you are looking
On 4/13/24 07:00, jak via Python-list wrote:
Stefan Ram ha scritto:
jak wrote or quoted:
Would you show me the path, please?
I was not able to read xls here, so I used csv instead; Warning:
the script will overwrite file "file_20240412201813_tmp_DML.csv"!
import pa
thank you again for pointing me in the right direction. I
had lost myself looking for a pandas method that would do this in a
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 05:00:32 +0200 Gisle Vanem via Python-list wrote:
>Pierre Fortin wrote:
>
>> Over the years, I've tried different mechanisms for applying colors until
>> I got my hands on f-stings; then I created a tiny module with all the
>> colors (cR, cG, etc) wh
t a result similar to this:
{
'zz':[('foo1','foo3'),
('foo2','foo5'),
('foo3','foo2'),
('foo3','foo6'),
('foo5','foo4')
]
}
Would you show me the path, please?
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to see this tiny module of yours.
An URL or attach as inline text please.
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this to stop working compared to python 3.7?
None at all, alas. My experience with the Python C API is very limited.
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On 4/11/2024 8:42 AM, Olivier B. via Python-list wrote:
I am trying to use StringIO to capture stdout, in code that looks like this:
import sys
from io import StringIO
old_stdout = sys.stdout
sys.stdout = mystdout = StringIO()
print( "patate")
mystdout.seek(0)
sys.stdout = old_st
wrong C++ code to extract the string from the python
> variable, since running a python print of the content of mystdout in
> the real stdout also misses the two first characters.
>
> Hopefully someone has a clue on what would have changed in Python for
> this to stop working compared to python 3.7?
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ble, since running a python print of the content of mystdout in
the real stdout also misses the two first characters.
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On 10/04/2024 19:50, WordWeaver Evangelist via Python-list wrote:
I have a simple question. I use the following textPrompt in some of my Jython
modules:
'\n[1;33mYour choice is? (A B C D E): ', maxChars=1, autoAccept=False
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On 2024-04-10, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> On 10/04/2024 19:50, WordWeaver Evangelist via Python-list wrote:
>
>> I have a simple question. I use the following textPrompt in some of my
>> Jython modules:
>> '\n[1;33mYour choice is? (A B C D E): ', maxC
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> I have a simple question. I use the following textPrompt in some of my
> Jython modules:
> '\n [1;33mYour choice is? (A B C D E): ', maxChars=1, autoAccept=False,
> forceUppercase=True)
> Is the
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>
>I have a simple question. I use the following textPrompt in some of my Jython
>modules:
> '\n[1;33mYour choice is? (A B C D E): ', maxChars=1, autoAccept=False,
> f
On 10/04/2024 19:50, WordWeaver Evangelist via Python-list wrote:
> I have a simple question. I use the following textPrompt in some of my Jython
> modules:
> '\n[1;33mYour choice is? (A B C D E): ', maxChars=1, autoAccept=False,
> forceUppercase=True)
> Is there a way to ad
On 11/04/24 06:50, WordWeaver Evangelist via Python-list wrote:
I have a simple question. I use the following textPrompt in some of my Jython
modules:
'\n[1;33mYour choice is? (A B C D E): ', maxChars=1, autoAccept=False,
forceUppercase=True)
Is there a way to add an ANSI color code
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