Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Angelos Tzotsos]

Hi,

Timing is something we must improve in the future ;)

Best,
Angelos

On 07/20/2016 12:40 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:

Hi Angelos,

On Fri, 15. Jul 2016 at 18:31:10 +0300, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Yesterday, GDAL 2.1.0 landed on UbuntuGIS Unstable (Trusty), so
packages on repositories depending on UbuntuGIS will need to be
re-built.

Thanks for the update.  Good timing ;)

The ubuntugis and ubuntugis-ltr packages have been rebuilt.

BTW debian unstable already has gdal-abi-2-1-1.


Jürgen



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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Angelos,

On Fri, 15. Jul 2016 at 18:31:10 +0300, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
> Yesterday, GDAL 2.1.0 landed on UbuntuGIS Unstable (Trusty), so
> packages on repositories depending on UbuntuGIS will need to be
> re-built.

Thanks for the update.  Good timing ;)

The ubuntugis and ubuntugis-ltr packages have been rebuilt.

BTW debian unstable already has gdal-abi-2-1-1.


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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Bernd,

On Mon, 18. Jul 2016 at 22:17:13 +0200, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
> and appreciate all your work!

Oh, silly developer read top down and got a totally wrong impression. ;)


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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Ben Hur Pintor]

Below is a summary of what I found to be working and not when installing
QGIS in Xubuntu trusty.

WORKING
1. Removing all the qgis.org repositories from sources.list and just
leaving the ubuntugis-unstable PPA. -> Installs QGIS 2.14.3 (from unstable
PPA)

2. Using the ubuntugis-nightly-release repo (
http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-nightly-release) and the ubuntugis-unstable PPA
in sources.list -> Installs QGIS 2.16 nightly build

3. Using the ubuntugis-nightly repo (http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-release) and
the ubuntugis-unstable PPA  in sources.list -> Installs dev version (QGIS
2.17)

NOT WORKING
1. Having both the ubuntugis repo (http://qgis.org/ubuntugis) and the
ubuntugis-unstable PPA in sources.list -> Results in the unmet dependency
error.


I currently have 2.16 (nightly build) working on my machine but I'm hoping
that the more stable build in http://qgis.org/ubuntugis becomes working
again soon. As I've read, the next regular rebuild is on the 29th.
Hopefully it works by then.

Regards,
Ben Hur


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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Richard Duivenvoorde]

On 19-07-16 10:13, Matthias Kuhn wrote:
> Hi Bernd,
> 
> On 18/07/16 22:17, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

>> If you do not give those explanations, where should they come from then?
>> Have mercy and simply add more text. Form follows function. If the
>> function breaks the form of the page, then maybe change the design.
> 
> I think you already have a quite good idea what information is missing
> and how to explain that.
> 
> Would you mind writing a proposal?
> 
> It can be here found around line 90:
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/edit/master/source/site/forusers/alldownloads.rst

Yes, Bernd please try

Given you have a Github account already (if not please registre first...):

Then go to:

http://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#debian-ubuntu

If you fix the 'fixme'-link on the bottom/footer of the page, if all
goes right, you will be redirected to your own Github repo's and being
asked to fork the QGIS repo. There you can change the text, and do a
pull request. Which will be build/tested by Travis and if ok, can be
pulled in QGIS repo/website then.

We are short in people willing to invest some time in writing, so please
help, you have a good idea/view how it should be.

I'll be around all day, in case of help needed.

Regards and TIA,

Richard Duivenvoorde
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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Matthias Kuhn]

Hi Bernd,

On 18/07/16 22:17, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> Am 18.07.2016, 10:13 Uhr, schrieb Richard Duivenvoorde
> :
>
>> On 17-07-16 22:42, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
>>> Hi Angelos,
>>> thanx a lot for the hint. It works!
>>>
>>> This is now indeed the third variation of a working setup in a row.
>>> We already had to enable three repositories, then two, and now it's
>>> only
>>> one. Unfortunately the instructions on the download page never
>>> manage to
>>> reflect those changes.
>>
>> I think they do, (or at least we try) but for Ubuntu/Debian there are
>> just a lot of possible options, and trying to describe that clearly [0]
>> apparently does not make it really easier, just because of all the
>> possible options and/or combinations.
>
> The download page for debian/ubuntu reflects the coders motto:
> Minimize the code!
> But people who are not used to read code have really difficulties
> getting the picture there.
>
> 1. I am confident, that the biggest part of Ubuntu users would like to
> have a release with the same features as they have if using the
> installer on Windows. The offered release (http://qgis.org/debian)
> does not do this. This is not mentioned anywhere that it lacks
> features. People have to find out by themselves.
>
> 2. "Release with ubuntugis dependencies" is as cryptic as it can be.
> But it is simply the version most people expect to receive. A full
> sentence of what the differences between the repositories are would
> not let the page explode. Maybe mention that MrSID and ECW is not
> supported in contrary to Windows due to legal issues (and that you
> have to compile stuff to get it)
>
> 3. The instructions to add the ubuntugis functions are outdated for
> several releases already. I remember it worked with the
> ubuntugis-repository plus the ppa. The next version, I had to add as
> well the debian-repository. The next time, I had to remove  debian
> again. Now it seems it works with the ubuntugis repository only, and
> no ppa.
>
> If you do not give those explanations, where should they come from then?
> Have mercy and simply add more text. Form follows function. If the
> function breaks the form of the page, then maybe change the design.

I think you already have a quite good idea what information is missing
and how to explain that.

Would you mind writing a proposal?

It can be here found around line 90:
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/edit/master/source/site/forusers/alldownloads.rst

Thanks a lot
Matthias
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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Bernd Vogelgesang]

Hi Richard,

Am 18.07.2016, 10:13 Uhr, schrieb Richard Duivenvoorde
:


On 17-07-16 22:42, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi Angelos,
thanx a lot for the hint. It works!

This is now indeed the third variation of a working setup in a row.
We already had to enable three repositories, then two, and now it's only
one. Unfortunately the instructions on the download page never manage to
reflect those changes.


I think they do, (or at least we try) but for Ubuntu/Debian there are
just a lot of possible options, and trying to describe that clearly [0]
apparently does not make it really easier, just because of all the
possible options and/or combinations.


The download page for debian/ubuntu reflects the coders motto: Minimize  
the code!
But people who are not used to read code have really difficulties getting  
the picture there.


1. I am confident, that the biggest part of Ubuntu users would like to  
have a release with the same features as they have if using the installer  
on Windows. The offered release (http://qgis.org/debian) does not do this.  
This is not mentioned anywhere that it lacks features. People have to find  
out by themselves.


2. "Release with ubuntugis dependencies" is as cryptic as it can be. But  
it is simply the version most people expect to receive. A full sentence of  
what the differences between the repositories are would not let the page  
explode. Maybe mention that MrSID and ECW is not supported in contrary to  
Windows due to legal issues (and that you have to compile stuff to get it)


3. The instructions to add the ubuntugis functions are outdated for  
several releases already. I remember it worked with the  
ubuntugis-repository plus the ppa. The next version, I had to add as well  
the debian-repository. The next time, I had to remove  debian again. Now  
it seems it works with the ubuntugis repository only, and no ppa.


If you do not give those explanations, where should they come from then?
Have mercy and simply add more text. Form follows function. If the  
function breaks the form of the page, then maybe change the design.


I love QGIS and appreciate all your work!
Bernd




If somebody comes up with a better text, please do. Maybe split up
Ubuntu and Debian in two different blocks?

And as usual: not working (for you?) please provide a full better
working alternative :-) we are happy to add information that would make
it more clear.

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde

[0] http://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#debian-ubuntu


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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Richard Duivenvoorde]

On 17-07-16 22:42, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
> Hi Angelos,
> thanx a lot for the hint. It works!
> 
> This is now indeed the third variation of a working setup in a row.
> We already had to enable three repositories, then two, and now it's only
> one. Unfortunately the instructions on the download page never manage to
> reflect those changes.

I think they do, (or at least we try) but for Ubuntu/Debian there are
just a lot of possible options, and trying to describe that clearly [0]
apparently does not make it really easier, just because of all the
possible options and/or combinations.

If somebody comes up with a better text, please do. Maybe split up
Ubuntu and Debian in two different blocks?

And as usual: not working (for you?) please provide a full better
working alternative :-) we are happy to add information that would make
it more clear.

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde

[0] http://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#debian-ubuntu


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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again (Bernd Vogelgesang)

[Ben Hur Pintor]

I (temporarily) commented out the repository from my sources list but kept
the ubuntugis-unstable ppa. I then removed QGIS from my system and
reinstalled using the unstable PPA (QGIS 2.14.3) with the usual sudo
apt-get install qgis.

I haven't checked yet if the repos with ubuntugis dependencies are working
again (for 2.16 and 2.14). Hopefully, they will be soon.

Regards,
Ben Hur


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> To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again
> Message-ID: <op.ykrc59lol2i25i@bernd-terra-pc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Hi all,
>
> now I enabled http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-ltr and I face the same problems
> as below, but only for 2.14 version now.
> Is there any way to install a recent QGIS with my beloved ubuntugis
> features from the repositories, or is this just a local problem?
>
> I need to get this up and running as I would like to do some work ...
>
> Cheers
> Bernd
>
> Am 16.07.2016, 15:11 Uhr, schrieb Bernd Vogelgesang
> <bernd.vogelges...@gmx.de>:
>
> > Hi Jürgen,
> > thanks for the reply.
> >
> > Ok, as I understood your words, I disabled ubuntugis and enabled instead:
> >
> > deb http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-nightly-release trusty main
> > deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu trusty
> > main
> >
> > But still, QGIS will not install:
> >
> > bernd@bernd-TERRA-PC ~ $ sudo apt-get install qgis
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree
> > Reading state information... Done
> > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> > or been moved out of Incoming.
> > The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> >
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> > qgis : Depends: libgdal.so.1-1.11.2
> >Depends: libgdal1h (>= 1.8.0) but it is not going to be
> > installed
> >Depends: libqgis-analysis2.16.0 but it is not going to be
> > installed
> >Depends: libqgis-app2.16.0 but it is not going to be installed
> >Depends: libqgis-core2.16.0 but it is not going to be
> > installed
> >Depends: libqgis-gui2.16.0 but it is not going to be installed
> >Depends: libqgis-networkanalysis2.16.0 but it is not going to
> > be
> > installed
> >Depends: python-qgis (=
> > 1:2.16.0+git20160712+1b016e4+20trusty-ubuntugis) but it is not going to
> > be
> > installed
> >Depends: qgis-providers (=
> > 1:2.16.0+git20160712+1b016e4+20trusty-ubuntugis) but it is not going to
> > be
> > installed
> > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
> >
> > Actually, I do not intend to have something "unstable" or exotic, but
> > simply just the same
> > flavour as when I use the OSGEO4W-installer on Windows.
> >
> > Even after years, I can't figure out from the help pages what all the
> > stuff means and how things have to be handled in case something doesn't
> > work (which happens actually at each change of version, but the way to
> > resolve this seems to be different every time).
> >
> > Thankful for any hint
> > Bernd
> >
> > Am 15.07.2016, 21:28 Uhr, schrieb Jürgen E. Fischer <j...@norbit.de>:
> >
> >> Hi Bernd,
> >>
> >> On Fri, 15. Jul 2016 at 18:36:06 +0200, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
> >>> Will the rebuilding be triggered automatically, or do I have to
> >>> "tr

Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Ben Hur Pintor]

I (temporarily) commented out the repository from my sources list but kept
the ubuntugis-unstable ppa. I then removed QGIS from my system and
reinstalled using the unstable PPA (QGIS 2.14.3).


I haven't checked yet if the repos with ubuntugis repositories are working
again or if QGIS has bu


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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Hi all,
>
> now I enabled http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-ltr and I face the same problems
> as below, but only for 2.14 version now.
> Is there any way to install a recent QGIS with my beloved ubuntugis
> features from the repositories, or is this just a local problem?
>
> I need to get this up and running as I would like to do some work ...
>
> Cheers
> Bernd
>
> Am 16.07.2016, 15:11 Uhr, schrieb Bernd Vogelgesang
> <bernd.vogelges...@gmx.de>:
>
> > Hi Jürgen,
> > thanks for the reply.
> >
> > Ok, as I understood your words, I disabled ubuntugis and enabled instead:
> >
> > deb http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-nightly-release trusty main
> > deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu trusty
> > main
> >
> > But still, QGIS will not install:
> >
> > bernd@bernd-TERRA-PC ~ $ sudo apt-get install qgis
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree
> > Reading state information... Done
> > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> > or been moved out of Incoming.
> > The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> >
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> > qgis : Depends: libgdal.so.1-1.11.2
> >Depends: libgdal1h (>= 1.8.0) but it is not going to be
> > installed
> >Depends: libqgis-analysis2.16.0 but it is not going to be
> > installed
> >Depends: libqgis-app2.16.0 but it is not going to be installed
> >Depends: libqgis-core2.16.0 but it is not going to be
> > installed
> >Depends: libqgis-gui2.16.0 but it is not going to be installed
> >Depends: libqgis-networkanalysis2.16.0 but it is not going to
> > be
> > installed
> >Depends: python-qgis (=
> > 1:2.16.0+git20160712+1b016e4+20trusty-ubuntugis) but it is not going to
> > be
> > installed
> >Depends: qgis-providers (=
> > 1:2.16.0+git20160712+1b016e4+20trusty-ubuntugis) but it is not going to
> > be
> > installed
> > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
> >
> > Actually, I do not intend to have something "unstable" or exotic, but
> > simply just the same
> > flavour as when I use the OSGEO4W-installer on Windows.
> >
> > Even after years, I can't figure out from the help pages what all the
> > stuff means and how things have to be handled in case something doesn't
> > work (which happens actually at each change of version, but the way to
> > resolve this seems to be different every time).
> >
> > Thankful for any hint
> > Bernd
> >
> > Am 15.07.2016, 21:28 Uhr, schrieb Jürgen E. Fischer <j...@norbit.de>:
> >
> >> Hi Bernd,
> >>
> >> On Fri, 15. Jul 2016 at 18:36:06 +0200, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
> >>> Will the rebuilding be triggered automatically, or do I have to
> >>> "trigger" someone to have a look at it ?
> >>
> >> No, the dependen

Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Bernd Vogelgesang]

Hi Angelos,
thanx a lot for the hint. It works!

This is now indeed the third variation of a working setup in a row.
We already had to enable three repositories, then two, and now it's only  
one. Unfortunately the instructions on the download page never manage to  
reflect those changes.


Cheers
Bernd


Am 17.07.2016, 21:36 Uhr, schrieb Angelos Tzotsos :


Hi Bernd,

This will get you to a working setup:
1. Please remove all previous installed versions with apt-get purge qgis
2. Enable only UbuntuGIS-Unstable and remove all other ppa's
3. apt-get install qgis.

This will get you QGIS 2.14.3. I have several reports that this works  
fine.


Best,
Angelos

On 07/17/2016 09:47 PM, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi all,

now I enabled http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-ltr and I face the same  
problems as below, but only for 2.14 version now.
Is there any way to install a recent QGIS with my beloved ubuntugis  
features from the repositories, or is this just a local problem?


I need to get this up and running as I would like to do some work ...

Cheers
Bernd

Am 16.07.2016, 15:11 Uhr, schrieb Bernd Vogelgesang  
:



Hi Jürgen,
thanks for the reply.

Ok, as I understood your words, I disabled ubuntugis and enabled  
instead:


deb http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-nightly-release trusty main
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu trusty
main

But still, QGIS will not install:

bernd@bernd-TERRA-PC ~ $ sudo apt-get install qgis
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
qgis : Depends: libgdal.so.1-1.11.2
   Depends: libgdal1h (>= 1.8.0) but it is not going to be  
installed

   Depends: libqgis-analysis2.16.0 but it is not going to be
installed
   Depends: libqgis-app2.16.0 but it is not going to be  
installed
   Depends: libqgis-core2.16.0 but it is not going to be  
installed
   Depends: libqgis-gui2.16.0 but it is not going to be  
installed
   Depends: libqgis-networkanalysis2.16.0 but it is not going  
to be

installed
   Depends: python-qgis (=
1:2.16.0+git20160712+1b016e4+20trusty-ubuntugis) but it is not going  
to be

installed
   Depends: qgis-providers (=
1:2.16.0+git20160712+1b016e4+20trusty-ubuntugis) but it is not going  
to be

installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Actually, I do not intend to have something "unstable" or exotic, but  
simply just the same

flavour as when I use the OSGEO4W-installer on Windows.

Even after years, I can't figure out from the help pages what all the  
stuff means and how things have to be handled in case something  
doesn't work (which happens actually at each change of version, but  
the way to resolve this seems to be different every time).


Thankful for any hint
Bernd

Am 15.07.2016, 21:28 Uhr, schrieb Jürgen E. Fischer :


Hi Bernd,

On Fri, 15. Jul 2016 at 18:36:06 +0200, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Will the rebuilding be triggered automatically, or do I have to
"trigger" someone to have a look at it ?


No, the dependencies are not actively tracked and therefore no  
automatic

rebuilds are triggered.

But the nightlies are rebuilt with current dependencies whenever a  
commit
(backport) has happened in the meantime.  So you can resort to those  
for

"unstable" distributions (ie. distributions that have changed between
releases).

The next regular rebuild is on 29.7. for the 2.14.1 and 2.16.1 point  
releases.



Jürgen













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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Bernd Vogelgesang]

Hi all,

now I enabled http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-ltr and I face the same problems  
as below, but only for 2.14 version now.
Is there any way to install a recent QGIS with my beloved ubuntugis  
features from the repositories, or is this just a local problem?


I need to get this up and running as I would like to do some work ...

Cheers
Bernd

Am 16.07.2016, 15:11 Uhr, schrieb Bernd Vogelgesang  
:



Hi Jürgen,
thanks for the reply.

Ok, as I understood your words, I disabled ubuntugis and enabled instead:

deb http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-nightly-release trusty main
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu trusty
main

But still, QGIS will not install:

bernd@bernd-TERRA-PC ~ $ sudo apt-get install qgis
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
qgis : Depends: libgdal.so.1-1.11.2
   Depends: libgdal1h (>= 1.8.0) but it is not going to be  
installed

   Depends: libqgis-analysis2.16.0 but it is not going to be
installed
   Depends: libqgis-app2.16.0 but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: libqgis-core2.16.0 but it is not going to be  
installed

   Depends: libqgis-gui2.16.0 but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: libqgis-networkanalysis2.16.0 but it is not going to  
be

installed
   Depends: python-qgis (=
1:2.16.0+git20160712+1b016e4+20trusty-ubuntugis) but it is not going to  
be

installed
   Depends: qgis-providers (=
1:2.16.0+git20160712+1b016e4+20trusty-ubuntugis) but it is not going to  
be

installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Actually, I do not intend to have something "unstable" or exotic, but  
simply just the same

flavour as when I use the OSGEO4W-installer on Windows.

Even after years, I can't figure out from the help pages what all the  
stuff means and how things have to be handled in case something doesn't  
work (which happens actually at each change of version, but the way to  
resolve this seems to be different every time).


Thankful for any hint
Bernd

Am 15.07.2016, 21:28 Uhr, schrieb Jürgen E. Fischer :


Hi Bernd,

On Fri, 15. Jul 2016 at 18:36:06 +0200, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Will the rebuilding be triggered automatically, or do I have to
"trigger" someone to have a look at it ?


No, the dependencies are not actively tracked and therefore no automatic
rebuilds are triggered.

But the nightlies are rebuilt with current dependencies whenever a  
commit

(backport) has happened in the meantime.  So you can resort to those for
"unstable" distributions (ie. distributions that have changed between
releases).

The next regular rebuild is on 29.7. for the 2.14.1 and 2.16.1 point  
releases.



Jürgen







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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Bernd Vogelgesang]

Hi Jürgen,
thanks for the reply.

Ok, as I understood your words, I disabled ubuntugis and enabled instead:

deb http://qgis.org/ubuntugis-nightly-release trusty main
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu trusty
main

But still, QGIS will not install:

bernd@bernd-TERRA-PC ~ $ sudo apt-get install qgis
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   qgis : Depends: libgdal.so.1-1.11.2
  Depends: libgdal1h (>= 1.8.0) but it is not going to be installed
  Depends: libqgis-analysis2.16.0 but it is not going to be
installed
  Depends: libqgis-app2.16.0 but it is not going to be installed
  Depends: libqgis-core2.16.0 but it is not going to be installed
  Depends: libqgis-gui2.16.0 but it is not going to be installed
  Depends: libqgis-networkanalysis2.16.0 but it is not going to be
installed
  Depends: python-qgis (=
1:2.16.0+git20160712+1b016e4+20trusty-ubuntugis) but it is not going to be
installed
  Depends: qgis-providers (=
1:2.16.0+git20160712+1b016e4+20trusty-ubuntugis) but it is not going to be
installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Actually, I do not intend to have something "unstable" or exotic, but  
simply just the same

flavour as when I use the OSGEO4W-installer on Windows.

Even after years, I can't figure out from the help pages what all the  
stuff means and how things have to be handled in case something doesn't  
work (which happens actually at each change of version, but the way to  
resolve this seems to be different every time).


Thankful for any hint
Bernd

Am 15.07.2016, 21:28 Uhr, schrieb Jürgen E. Fischer :


Hi Bernd,

On Fri, 15. Jul 2016 at 18:36:06 +0200, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Will the rebuilding be triggered automatically, or do I have to
"trigger" someone to have a look at it ?


No, the dependencies are not actively tracked and therefore no automatic
rebuilds are triggered.

But the nightlies are rebuilt with current dependencies whenever a commit
(backport) has happened in the meantime.  So you can resort to those for
"unstable" distributions (ie. distributions that have changed between
releases).

The next regular rebuild is on 29.7. for the 2.14.1 and 2.16.1 point  
releases.



Jürgen




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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Bernd,

On Fri, 15. Jul 2016 at 18:36:06 +0200, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:
> Will the rebuilding be triggered automatically, or do I have to
> "trigger" someone to have a look at it ?

No, the dependencies are not actively tracked and therefore no automatic
rebuilds are triggered.

But the nightlies are rebuilt with current dependencies whenever a commit
(backport) has happened in the meantime.  So you can resort to those for
"unstable" distributions (ie. distributions that have changed between
releases).

The next regular rebuild is on 29.7. for the 2.14.1 and 2.16.1 point releases.


Jürgen

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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Bernd Vogelgesang]

Hi Angelos,
thanx for the information!

Will the rebuilding be triggered automatically, or do I have to "trigger"  
someone to have a look at it ?


Cheers
Bernd

Am 15.07.2016, 17:31 Uhr, schrieb Angelos Tzotsos :


Hi Bernd,

Yesterday, GDAL 2.1.0 landed on UbuntuGIS Unstable (Trusty), so packages  
on repositories depending on UbuntuGIS will need to be re-built.


Best,
Angelos

On 07/15/2016 04:23 PM, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi,
some days ago, I updated to 2.16 from the repositories.
Everything worked fine.
Then yesterday, an update for saga came in.
Checked today, saga is not working in the toolbox.

Removing, reinstalling, fiddling, disabling/enabling ubuntu-unstable  
etc etc -> finally ending up again in a situation with no working grass  
and saga in the toolbox.


Using Linux Mint 17

Anyone an idea how to solve this, or is it just again waiting till  
things get sorted out by itself in some weeks?


Cheers
Bernd







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Re: [Qgis-user] Problems with ubuntu-unstable again

[Angelos Tzotsos]

Hi Bernd,

Yesterday, GDAL 2.1.0 landed on UbuntuGIS Unstable (Trusty), so packages 
on repositories depending on UbuntuGIS will need to be re-built.


Best,
Angelos

On 07/15/2016 04:23 PM, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote:

Hi,
some days ago, I updated to 2.16 from the repositories.
Everything worked fine.
Then yesterday, an update for saga came in.
Checked today, saga is not working in the toolbox.

Removing, reinstalling, fiddling, disabling/enabling ubuntu-unstable 
etc etc -> finally ending up again in a situation with no working 
grass and saga in the toolbox.


Using Linux Mint 17

Anyone an idea how to solve this, or is it just again waiting till 
things get sorted out by itself in some weeks?


Cheers
Bernd




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