Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-10-13 Thread Derek Stewart
Hi, I watch and sometimes input. Regards, Derek On 12/10/16 22:31, Klaus-Peter Greiner wrote: Nearby, i am eagerly watching this list since years; so i am the third listener 8-) regards Klaus-Peter Greiner Am 12.10.16 um 11:45 schrieb François Van Emelen: Op 11/10/2016 om 18:15 schreef Ral

Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-10-12 Thread Klaus-Peter Greiner
Nearby, i am eagerly watching this list since years; so i am the third listener 8-) regards Klaus-Peter Greiner Am 12.10.16 um 11:45 schrieb François Van Emelen: Op 11/10/2016 om 18:15 schreef Ralf Reköndt: What was the cure? - Original Message - From: "François Van Emelen" Sorry f

Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-10-12 Thread Alexandre Souza
And how far people are listening...Greetings from Brazil! :) 2016-10-12 8:38 GMT-03:00 Andreas Berger : > Am 12.10.2016 um 11:45 schrieb François Van Emelen: > > Thanks for your reply. that makes 2 listeners on this list :). >> > > you don't know who all is watching/listening - and only not w

Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-10-12 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Ah, ok, but we have to wait for Marcel to put this into QPC, as he has a special SMSQ/E. - Original Message - From: "Wolfgang Lenerz" Hi, Put simply, the record "update" forces a flushing of all the buffers for the file. When using the SMSQ/E routines, this may give rise to writing

Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
Hi, Put simply, the record "update" forces a flushing of all the buffers for the file. When using the SMSQ/E routines, this may give rise to writing several sectors to the disk, one after the other, which is slow. My win driver handles that a bit differently - there is no buffer to flush per se.

Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-10-12 Thread Andreas Berger
Am 12.10.2016 um 11:45 schrieb François Van Emelen: Thanks for your reply. that makes 2 listeners on this list :). you don't know who all is watching/listening - and only not writing at all :-) regards, Andreas ___ QL-Users Mailing List

Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-10-12 Thread jms1
Francois your english is good John On 2016-10-12 10:45, François Van Emelen wrote: Op 11/10/2016 om 18:15 schreef Ralf Reköndt: What was the cure? - Original Message - From: "François Van Emelen" Sorry for the late reply: I am having some health problems. Wolfgang found the problem

Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-10-12 Thread François Van Emelen
Op 11/10/2016 om 18:15 schreef Ralf Reköndt: What was the cure? - Original Message - From: "François Van Emelen" Sorry for the late reply: I am having some health problems. Wolfgang found the problem and told me how to solve it. New timings Conversion of a DBF-file to a DBS-file (fr

Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-10-11 Thread Ralf Reköndt
What was the cure? - Original Message - From: "François Van Emelen" Sorry for the late reply: I am having some health problems. Wolfgang found the problem and told me how to solve it. New timings Conversion of a DBF-file to a DBS-file (from dos1_ to win2_) Qpc2 : before correction

Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-10-11 Thread François Van Emelen
Op 6/08/2016 om 13:48 schreef pjwitte: On 06/08/2016 11:46, François Van Emelen wrote: Yesterday evening I copied my win2_ (my default) to another location and linked it to QPC2/SMSQE as WIN7_. I deleted all files and directories with PWfiles. I then defragmented my hard drive. Conversion to tha

Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-08-06 Thread pjwitte
On 06/08/2016 11:46, François Van Emelen wrote: Yesterday evening I copied my win2_ (my default) to another location and linked it to QPC2/SMSQE as WIN7_. I deleted all files and directories with PWfiles. I then defragmented my hard drive. Conversion to that empty win7_ took more than 23 minutes.

Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-08-06 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Have you tried converting to a *freshly formatted* (instead of "made empty") win7 qxl-win file? It could well be that the win7 format is somehow corrupted. Tobias > Am 06.08.2016 um 11:46 schrieb François Van Emelen > : > > Yesterday evening I copied my win2_ (my default) to another location

Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-08-06 Thread François Van Emelen
Yesterday evening I copied my win2_ (my default) to another location and linked it to QPC2/SMSQE as WIN7_. I deleted all files and directories with PWfiles. I then defragmented my hard drive. Conversion to that empty win7_ took more than 23 minutes... not much faster than before. Lack of space,

Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-08-05 Thread RWAP Software
It could depend on a couple of things I should imagine: a) Whether the win file is fragmented on your PC's hard disk b) Whether the win file is full so each write it has to be extended first to make room c) The size of your swap file on the PC and how that is being used (again that may be fragm

Re: [Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-08-05 Thread Giorgio Garabello
tried with a different .win? same result? 2016-08-05 18:11 GMT+02:00 François Van Emelen < francois.vaneme...@telenet.be>: > Hi, > > Why is writing to WIN device so slow compared to writing to RAM and DOS > device? > > Converting a 500KB DBF-file (dbase3/foxbase) DBS-file from dos1_ > > 1) to RAM

[Ql-Users] Why so slow?

2016-08-05 Thread François Van Emelen
Hi, Why is writing to WIN device so slow compared to writing to RAM and DOS device? Converting a 500KB DBF-file (dbase3/foxbase) DBS-file from dos1_ 1) to RAM1_ less than 15 sec. 2) to DOS1_ less than 20 sec. 3) to WIN2_ more than 25 MINUTES Why such a huge difference? François Van Emelen

Re: [Ql-Users] Why does WM_SETUP - never return an error?

2015-04-19 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 19/04/15 15:13, Norman Dunbar wrote: However, I'll have another look at SET_AP - now that I've got a working version of LibGen that doesn't trash QPC when it is run! :-) I have a working example now of a program that sets up a dynamic menu. It seems I need to design the window with a menu

Re: [Ql-Users] Why does WM_SETUP - never return an error?

2015-04-19 Thread Norman Dunbar
The Easy PEasy example EX1_asm is an example of using SET_AP, this is good, but, when executed it calls WM_WRSET after calling SET_AP. This breaks LibGen as it clears all text from all the various information windows that have user input displayed in them - the Sym File, Lib File and Bin File

Re: [Ql-Users] Why does WM_SETUP - never return an error?

2015-04-19 Thread Norman Dunbar
Hi George, On 19/04/15 14:04, gdgqler wrote: On 18 Apr 2015, at 19:49, Norman Dunbar wrote: does anyone have any decent examples of setting up a Window, with one application sub-window that doesn't have a menu, and then dynamically building a menu into the afore mentioned sub-window. I t

Re: [Ql-Users] Why does WM_SETUP - never return an error?

2015-04-19 Thread gdgqler
> On 18 Apr 2015, at 19:49, Norman Dunbar wrote: > > does anyone have any decent examples of setting up a Window, with one > application sub-window that doesn't have a menu, and then dynamically > building a menu into the afore mentioned sub-window. I thought that SET_AP in Easy_Peasy did jus

Re: [Ql-Users] Why does WM_SETUP - never return an error?

2015-04-19 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Norman, …and another one. I just remembered when I started doing this stuff in assembler, I used the (C!)-routines that came with EasyC (available at Dillwyn’s) from the master himself as a starting point. The example there shows how a menu in an application sub window is dynamically set up in

Re: [Ql-Users] Why does WM_SETUP - never return an error?

2015-04-19 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Norman, this is the best I could possible come up with so far (can’t find my own code anymore…) These are routines Easysource includes as app win menu handling code when you generate an application without a fixed menu. They don’t, however, cover any of the actual list allocation tasks. Maybe

Re: [Ql-Users] Why does WM_SETUP - never return an error?

2015-04-19 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 19 April 2015 08:38:29 BST, "Tobias Fröschle" wrote: >Norman, > >it probably was a „If we can’t get them all, we probably shouldn’t even >start looking for them“-decision. > >Potential of lurking errors in window definitions is immense and a full >check of the definition in WM_SETUP is maybe a

Re: [Ql-Users] Why does WM_SETUP - never return an error?

2015-04-19 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Norman, it probably was a „If we can’t get them all, we probably shouldn’t even start looking for them“-decision. Potential of lurking errors in window definitions is immense and a full check of the definition in WM_SETUP is maybe a bit ambitious. After all, the Tebby team used the QPTR macro

Re: [Ql-Users] Why does WM_SETUP - never return an error?

2015-04-18 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 19 April 2015 06:53:02 BST, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: >Hi Norman > >I 'll have a look at your points, but won't be able to reply for a few >days at least. > >WOlfgan >___ >QL-Users Mailing List >http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Thanks Wolfgang.

Re: [Ql-Users] Why does WM_SETUP - never return an error?

2015-04-18 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
Hi Norman I 'll have a look at your points, but won't be able to reply for a few days at least. WOlfgan ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [Ql-Users] Why does WM_SETUP - never return an error?

2015-04-18 Thread Norman Dunbar
And, sorry, I forgot, does anyone have any decent examples of setting up a Window, with one application sub-window that doesn't have a menu, and then dynamically building a menu into the afore mentioned sub-window. I'm sure it can be done, I'm thinking MAWDRAW from EasyMenu as an example. C

[Ql-Users] Why does WM_SETUP - never return an error?

2015-04-18 Thread Norman Dunbar
Evening all, I've spent some free time today examining a problem I've been having for some time. LibGen (anyone remember that?) when executed displays the window on screen and works fine until I exit from the program. At that point, QPC no longer is able to receive the cursor - it passes behin

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-24 Thread Dave Park
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Rich Mellor wrote: > My preference for a venue would be somewhere local to me - but I have been > unable to find anything suitable that would offer interest to the families > of those that attend. Camrbidge is not exactly handy for me - but at least > the venue co

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-24 Thread Geoff Wicks
So the questions which arise are: a) What would people wish to see at such an event b) What would be the deciding factor on whether people would want to attend c) Should the event be organised and run by Quanta, or do people think it would be better to have a wider Sinclair event at which Qua

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-24 Thread Rich Mellor
On 24/10/2013 13:43, Geoff Wicks wrote: On 24/10/2013 11:48, Rich Mellor wrote: On 24/10/2013 08:11, Dave Park wrote: It sounds like Rich is making a proposition that Quanta should at least investigate, without individuals shooting it down in flames. One thing it does is give Quanta access to

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-24 Thread Geoff Wicks
On 24/10/2013 11:48, Rich Mellor wrote: On 24/10/2013 08:11, Dave Park wrote: It sounds like Rich is making a proposition that Quanta should at least investigate, without individuals shooting it down in flames. One thing it does is give Quanta access to a lot of Sinclair fans who aren't QLers

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-24 Thread Rich Mellor
On 24/10/2013 08:11, Dave Park wrote: It sounds like Rich is making a proposition that Quanta should at least investigate, without individuals shooting it down in flames. One thing it does is give Quanta access to a lot of Sinclair fans who aren't QLers - which is the best form of advertising for

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-24 Thread Dave Park
It sounds like Rich is making a proposition that Quanta should at least investigate, without individuals shooting it down in flames. One thing it does is give Quanta access to a lot of Sinclair fans who aren't QLers - which is the best form of advertising for the QL there is. imvvho Dave On Wed

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-23 Thread Richard Mellor t/as RWAP Services
On Wed, October 23, 2013 5:22 pm, Geoff Wicks wrote: > On 22/10/2013 22:21, Richard Mellor t/as RWAP Services wrote: >>> Thanks for the additional information. Pity I did not know this before. >>> >>> What puzzles me is why Sarah wrote in the April/May magazine as if it >>> was almost a done deal a

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-23 Thread Geoff Wicks
On 22/10/2013 22:21, Richard Mellor t/as RWAP Services wrote: Thanks for the additional information. Pity I did not know this before. What puzzles me is why Sarah wrote in the April/May magazine as if it was almost a done deal and then they backtrack in Oct/Nov. Surely they should have realised

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-22 Thread Richard Mellor t/as RWAP Services
On Tue, October 22, 2013 7:51 pm, Geoff Wicks wrote: > On 21/10/2013 21:13, Richard Mellor t/as RWAP Services wrote: >> On Mon, October 21, 2013 12:59 pm, Geoff Wicks wrote: >>> I have considered Rich's proposal carefully and I like it, but sorry >>> Rich, you have not produced for me a business ca

Re: [Ql-Users] Why not

2013-10-22 Thread Lee Privett
I will look into that On 22 Oct 2013 19:43, "Geoff Wicks" wrote: > On 21/10/2013 23:42, Dave Park wrote: > >> Great! I hope that means I'll be able to "attend" the next one. :) >> >> How much will it cost to be set up to have a large number of skypers >> present? :) >> >> Dave >> >> > Don't forge

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-22 Thread Geoff Wicks
On 21/10/2013 21:13, Richard Mellor t/as RWAP Services wrote: On Mon, October 21, 2013 12:59 pm, Geoff Wicks wrote: I have considered Rich's proposal carefully and I like it, but sorry Rich, you have not produced for me a business case. I have no idea from what you write how much the show would

Re: [Ql-Users] Why not

2013-10-22 Thread Geoff Wicks
On 21/10/2013 23:42, Dave Park wrote: Great! I hope that means I'll be able to "attend" the next one. :) How much will it cost to be set up to have a large number of skypers present? :) Dave Don't forget that you played an important role in this. I had raised a question about the Quanta quo

Re: [Ql-Users] Why not

2013-10-21 Thread Dave Park
Great! I hope that means I'll be able to "attend" the next one. :) How much will it cost to be set up to have a large number of skypers present? :) Dave On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM, jms1 wrote: > On 2013-10-21 20:34, Richard Mellor t/as RWAP Services wrote: > >> On Mon, October 21, 2013 7

Re: [Ql-Users] Why not

2013-10-21 Thread jms1
On 2013-10-21 20:34, Richard Mellor t/as RWAP Services wrote: On Mon, October 21, 2013 7:46 pm, jms1 wrote: We live in the digital age and we are digital people. Cannot we use computers to solve the problem? After all should be possible to conduct an agm by email! All it requires is a fle

Re: [Ql-Users] Why not

2013-10-21 Thread Richard Mellor t/as RWAP Services
On Mon, October 21, 2013 7:46 pm, jms1 wrote: > > We live in the digital age and we are digital people. Cannot we use > computers to solve the problem? > > After all should be possible to conduct an agm by email! > > All it requires is a flexible approach and careful rules so it is seem > to be

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-21 Thread Richard Mellor t/as RWAP Services
On Mon, October 21, 2013 12:59 pm, Geoff Wicks wrote: > > I have considered Rich's proposal carefully and I like it, but sorry > Rich, you have not produced for me a business case. I have no idea from > what you write how much the show would cost Quanta. If you want this > show to go ahead you real

Re: [Ql-Users] Why not

2013-10-21 Thread jms1
I think the problem is that travel and expense make a two or even a single day event expensive for the return. How would you like the idea of holding the agm and workshop in Kirkcaldy? I gave up Quanta because it did not seem to be a source of information I wanted, and the AGM did not seem t

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-21 Thread Lee Privett
Speaking from myself and not as a representative committee member, the recent annual events held by QUANTA has (as far as I am aware) contain two separate entities. The first is a workshop normally held on a Saturday, the Sunday set aside as primarily a discussion prior to the formalities of the AG

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-21 Thread Geoff Wicks
On 21/10/2013 15:35, Neil Riley wrote: /lights blue touch paper Just enough money in Quanta to go out with a big bang and not a slightly pathetic phut! How about, invite all the Quanta members to a last hurrah, a weekend of celebrating the QL reaching 30, an achievement in itself seeing as it

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-21 Thread Neil Riley
/lights blue touch paper Just enough money in Quanta to go out with a big bang and not a slightly pathetic phut! How about, invite all the Quanta members to a last hurrah, a weekend of celebrating the QL reaching 30, an achievement in itself seeing as it died a death twenty seven years ago at

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-21 Thread Geoff Wicks
We need to inject some realism into this discussion and that means looking in some detail at Quanta's finances. We have to stop thinking that Quanta has a huge pot of gold. Admittedly there is still some gold, but it is a very small pot. In practiced Quanta's finances are in a more serious c

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-20 Thread Peter Graf
Richard Mellor wrote: > I too am looking forward to Peter's device And let's not forget Adrian! :) > One of the benefits is that Daniele Terdina has already written the > routines for Q-emuLator to use the same driver as written for the QL and > hence write natively to the SD card from within Q-

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-20 Thread Peter Graf
Hi Dilwyn, > Thanks for the update, Peter. I really hope QL-SD makes it to market. I also > hope someone will be able to write software to make it easy to transfer > files between QL and non-QL media. Out of interest, what media format is the > finished QL-SD likely to use - QXL.WIN, Qubide

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-20 Thread Richard Mellor t/as RWAP Services
On Sun, October 20, 2013 9:47 am, Dilwyn Jones wrote: > Thanks for the update, Peter. I really hope QL-SD makes it to market. I > also > hope someone will be able to write software to make it easy to transfer > files between QL and non-QL media. Out of interest, what media format is > the > finishe

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-20 Thread Dilwyn Jones
A very positive reply, Geoff, thanks. When I mentioned the cost, BTW, I was thinking in terms of fearing a higher cost event than this, hence why I might have sounded a little negative. Certainly, costs of the order you mention could be OK, as long as it became a well organised event. The c

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-20 Thread Dilwyn Jones
: [Ql-Users] Why? Hi, just my opinion as a QUANTA member. I'd like to join a "QL is 30" celebration. I personally would prefer this very special event QL specific and not mixed with a general Sinclair meeting. One last time I hope we can all get up and make it a big one! :-D I'

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-20 Thread Richard Mellor t/as RWAP Services
On Sun, October 20, 2013 9:22 am, Geoff Wicks wrote: > So let's try picking up the pieces and seeing what could be done. > > 1: The idea of the Computer Museum would be great, but it is too > expensive. Probably the best bet would be a one day event in a hotel > function room. That would solve any

Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

2013-10-20 Thread Geoff Wicks
On 19/10/2013 20:16, Dilwyn Jones wrote: A celebratory event would be great if we could find a suitable venue, not too expensive and could be certain of visitors. Rich has suggested the Computer Museum as a venue and it's the closest we've got to one, I think. It needn't necessarily be a Qu

Re: [Ql-Users] Why we can't code (Re: A small machine code program...)

2010-11-27 Thread Marcos Cruz
En/Je/On 2010-11-27 19:06, Tony Firshman escribió / skribis / wrote : >> http://www.salon.com/technology/feature/2006/09/14/basic/ > Interesting but awful page coding. > I must confess I closed the window after only glancing at it. Sorry. I didn't realize those usability problems because JavaScri

Re: [Ql-Users] Why we can't code (Re: A small machine code program...)

2010-11-27 Thread Tony Firshman
Marcos Cruz wrote, on 27/Nov/10 18:12 | Nov27: I remember an excellent article I read some months ago, concerning this issue. Its title is "Why Johnny can't code": Original by David Brin: http://www.salon.com/technology/feature/2006/09/14/basic/ Interesting but awful page coding. There was a

[Ql-Users] Why we can't code (Re: A small machine code program...)

2010-11-27 Thread Marcos Cruz
En/Je/On 2010-11-27 16:33, gdgqler escribió / skribis / wrote : > I wonder how many machines other than QL would allow Marcel's fantastic one > lined SuperBASIC program to operate immediately by typing in the line and > then RUN. Beside the QL, I use the following three machines, and all of them