Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
Hi Tobias, Per, all, Even if I personally prefer any printed matter to .PDFs, (There's simply places you won't take your computer for reading...), another word on that: Me too - and that was the essence from our readers when we did the survey some years ago. An electronic version should not replace the paper version completely, otherwise we would have too many unhappy readers. It could only be an additional feature. if I recall it right (It's been years since I have last used Calamus) the in-built PS driver did _not_ do the RIPping, but instead relied on Calamus to send already pixelized data - I'm afraid we'd (again) end up with huge, unsearchable bitmaps, something wich is barely an improvement upon simple scanning. This is what I keep saying. Opposed to that (also from limited memory) Bridge Pro, went in /before/ the actual image processing and should be able to export much smaller, and also searchable files. A bit of searching reveals _this_ (German, unfortunately): http://www.calamus.net/modules/bri.php (It's not free, but Jochen mentioned he'd be willing to support the maintenance of that software... ;-) Ideally, he'd find some other supporters in the QL Toady audience, I guess) Thanks. We found this already. No, it is not free ... and there is no demo, unfortunately. Bridge lite is part of the delivery, but I cannot test the pdf there. PDF is only available in the full version. Let's see if we find supporters... Cheers Jochen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
Jochen Merz wrote, on 6/Oct/10 13:32 | Oct6: Jochen/ Tony Firshman wrote: Jochen, How about offering an electronic (pdf?) version? Costs for you would be a great deal less. I for one would *prefer* that and it would save you a *long* walk (8-)# Tony Hi Tony, this subject has been discussed, tested and explained so many times by, including the current issue and some discussions on the newsgroup here 2 or 3 days ago... have you actually read the current issue? I know about the pdf problems. Is that what you mean? I haven't got the issue to hand as it is paper and not with me (8-)# That is precisely why I would prefer an electronic copy. Well, if you know about the PDF problems, what sense makes it to suggest to me to offer a PDF version? The situation has not changed since Norman tried it 3 days ago without success. That is why I put a '?' - I know there are issues. There are other ways, like image files, but I do not know the program you use. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
Jochen Merz wrote, on 6/Oct/10 13:42 | Oct6: Well, if you know about the PDF problems, what sense makes it to suggest to me to offer a PDF version? The situation has not changed since Norman tried it 3 days ago without success. That is why I put a '?' - I know there are issues. There are other ways, like image files, but I do not know the program you use. Calamus is the program (an ATARI program running under Windows) ... I use it for over 20 years now - no secret either ;-) As I wrote, I've tried many ways: either the data got too large or there were other problems. No solution at all. An electronic/automatic conversion seems to be impossible. The only way seems to be a plain paper scan... That is a pity. Mind you a simple scan would do for me. Anything to save you postage or the long walk. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
The only way seems to be a plain paper scan... That is a pity. Mind you a simple scan would do for me. Anything to save you postage or the long walk. Still other issues here, all explained already... whatever I do in ADDITION to the paper, it costs me more time... and 100% of our readers do not want to go for electronic only anyway. Jochen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
On 06/10/10 13:32, Jochen Merz wrote: The situation has not changed since Norman tried it 3 days ago without success. Afternoon gents. The latest situation with the PDF version is as follows: I have downloads a trial version of the Calamus program for Windows and I've run it with a small test file provided by Jochen. * I really really hate the program! However, the interface is as was on the Atari, so I can't really complain. Jochen, on the other hand, seems to do quite well with it! * I also installed a number of PDF printers and each time I try to create a PDF, the 15 pages start printing and then the CPU hits 100% for a couple of hours. This is totally unacceptable in my opinion. * Printing one page to PDF works, but takes far too long as well. * The PDF created is a massive file, for one page it is about 4.5 Mb which implies a certain amount of bitmapping is going on. This too is unacceptable. * The full 15 pages eventually filled my disc! * There do not appear to be any programs that can extract the contents of a Calamus data file (*.CDK) although the versions of Scribus greater than 1.3.5 are supposed to be able to import Calamus Vector Graphics files, version 1.3.7 doesn't appear to be able to display them or print them to PDF. Sigh! So, at the moment, creating a PDF from the Calamus program is not a viable option at all. Jochen doesn't want to spend time (undertsndably) learning a whole new system (Scribus for example) in order to produce the magazine. He's also not keen on Open Office, unlike me, and tried it out for a customer only in the last couple of months. Granted hsi troubles were with the conversion of Word documents and not with creating a magazine - but that's where we stand. As I've mentioned previously, my own Docbook to PDF version of all the QL Today Assembler articles, created a file of about 890Kb for 220 plus pages (110 plus actual A4 pages), most of them full of text and with very few screen dumps. So it can be done. Docbook is not the best way to create a regular magazine though! It's quite intensive - unless we can get evertone to create their articles in Docbook format of course! (There are special editors like XML Mind's XXE that allow you to use What You See Is Almost What You Get but it's still a steep learning curve and suitable for WIndows or Linux and not the original QL. I'm not giving up though. ;-) I'm pretty sure I can do it in Open Office - somehow - but as I only use this for the off letter for my business (so far) I've got a bit of a curve myself! I'll be keeping on trying and I'll let you know how I get on. Cheers, Norman. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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PS. I too would like a PDF copy as my collection (from issue 1) is getting too big for the space available! I'd still subscribe to the paper copy and get the PDF as well! Cheers, Norman. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
On 06/10/2010 14:27, Norman Dunbar wrote: On 06/10/10 13:32, Jochen Merz wrote: The situation has not changed since Norman tried it 3 days ago without success. Afternoon gents. The latest situation with the PDF version is as follows: I have downloads a trial version of the Calamus program for Windows and I've run it with a small test file provided by Jochen. * I really really hate the program! However, the interface is as was on the Atari, so I can't really complain. Jochen, on the other hand, seems to do quite well with it! * I also installed a number of PDF printers and each time I try to create a PDF, the 15 pages start printing and then the CPU hits 100% for a couple of hours. This is totally unacceptable in my opinion. * Printing one page to PDF works, but takes far too long as well. * The PDF created is a massive file, for one page it is about 4.5 Mb which implies a certain amount of bitmapping is going on. This too is unacceptable. * The full 15 pages eventually filled my disc! * There do not appear to be any programs that can extract the contents of a Calamus data file (*.CDK) although the versions of Scribus greater than 1.3.5 are supposed to be able to import Calamus Vector Graphics files, version 1.3.7 doesn't appear to be able to display them or print them to PDF. Sigh! So, at the moment, creating a PDF from the Calamus program is not a viable option at all. Jochen doesn't want to spend time (undertsndably) learning a whole new system (Scribus for example) in order to produce the magazine. He's also not keen on Open Office, unlike me, and tried it out for a customer only in the last couple of months. Granted hsi troubles were with the conversion of Word documents and not with creating a magazine - but that's where we stand. As I've mentioned previously, my own Docbook to PDF version of all the QL Today Assembler articles, created a file of about 890Kb for 220 plus pages (110 plus actual A4 pages), most of them full of text and with very few screen dumps. So it can be done. Docbook is not the best way to create a regular magazine though! It's quite intensive - unless we can get evertone to create their articles in Docbook format of course! (There are special editors like XML Mind's XXE that allow you to use What You See Is Almost What You Get but it's still a steep learning curve and suitable for WIndows or Linux and not the original QL. I'm not giving up though. ;-) I'm pretty sure I can do it in Open Office - somehow - but as I only use this for the off letter for my business (so far) I've got a bit of a curve myself! I'll be keeping on trying and I'll let you know how I get on. Cheers, Norman. I know it's a bit like stating the obvious, but have you tried running an Atari ST emulator (such as Gemulator - http://www.emulators.com/gemul8r.htm) on the PC and then using a pdf printer driver? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
I know it's a bit like stating the obvious, but have you tried running an Atari ST emulator (such as Gemulator - http://www.emulators.com/gemul8r.htm) on the PC and then using a pdf printer driver? Calamus has an INBUILT ST Emulator, otherwise it wouldn't work on a PC. And of course, both Norman and I tried pdf printer driver (but that was explained earlier in the thread somewhere). Jochen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
On 06/10/2010 13:43, Tony Firshman wrote: Jochen Merz wrote, on 6/Oct/10 13:42 | Oct6: Well, if you know about the PDF problems, what sense makes it to suggest to me to offer a PDF version? The situation has not changed since Norman tried it 3 days ago without success. That is why I put a '?' - I know there are issues. There are other ways, like image files, but I do not know the program you use. Calamus is the program (an ATARI program running under Windows) ... I use it for over 20 years now - no secret either ;-) As I wrote, I've tried many ways: either the data got too large or there were other problems. No solution at all. An electronic/automatic conversion seems to be impossible. The only way seems to be a plain paper scan... That is a pity. Mind you a simple scan would do for me. Anything to save you postage or the long walk. Tony Unfortunately I've not been keeping up with this thread, but is there not a version of Calamus for the PC? Would this not have PDF export? Cheers Malcolm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
On 06/10/2010 15:25, Jochen Merz wrote: Well, if you know about the PDF problems, what sense makes it to suggest to me to offer a PDF version? The situation has not changed since Norman tried it 3 days ago without success. That is why I put a '?' - I know there are issues. There are other ways, like image files, but I do not know the program you use. Calamus is the program (an ATARI program running under Windows) ... I use it for over 20 years now - no secret either ;-) As I wrote, I've tried many ways: either the data got too large or there were other problems. No solution at all. An electronic/automatic conversion seems to be impossible. The only way seems to be a plain paper scan... That is a pity. Mind you a simple scan would do for me. Anything to save you postage or the long walk. Tony Unfortunately I've not been keeping up with this thread, but is there not a version of Calamus for the PC? Would this not have PDF export? You don't need to keep up with the thread, just go up a few lines ;-) There I write Calamus is the program (an ATARI program running under Windows) I seem to be keeping on repeating the same explanations. Jochen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Sorry, I assumed you were running the ST version on an emulator :-) Malcolm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
Hi Malcolm, Unfortunately I've not been keeping up with this thread, but is there not a version of Calamus for the PC? Would this not have PDF export? There is indeed. I have it. It doesn't have an export to pdf command. The export command, as far as I've been able to use it, exports to one of two formats - Calamus Text or Ascii Text. You can only export text frames in this manner, not images. It appears that you need to select all the text frames individually as well. Cheers, Norman. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
Am 06.10.2010 17:24, schrieb Jochen Merz: Hi Malcolm, Sorry, I assumed you were running the ST version on an emulator :-) Uh, then you missed an earlier mail. I am paying for updates on Calamus to support THEM as well as we support the QL. I do have the latest Calamus. But while you mention it: the documents are not fully compatible. Even if there would be a solution for current versions, all issues produced in 1998 or so and before on ATARIs would be a problem anyway. Cheers Jochen Jochen, I'm not trying to be a nuisance, but: Have you ever tried Bridge 6 pro from Invers? This seems to support native PostScript and PDF export (i.e. not as Raster files) from Calamus SL. Cheers Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
Marcel Kilgus wrote: Urs Koenig (QL) wrote: I don't raise the question of how can it be that it takes 11 days longer for Austrian/Swiss post to ship from Austria to Switzerland than it took from Austria to Canada. In those 11 days I could walk to where Jochen sent it of easily. Well, the Swiss are not exactly known for their speed, are they? :-D Maybe not the fastest in the world, but always with good quality (Swiss made) ;-) Urs ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
Mine has arrived today here in France. Regards, Alain HAOUI - Mail Original - De: Jochen Merz jm...@j-m-s.com À: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Envoyé: Lundi 4 Octobre 2010 17h47:05 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1 Lucky you. Mine (Belgium) hasn't arrived yet. Last time I had to wait for more than a month. But I learnt to be patient... I know I will receive it. I'm sure you will :-) Jochen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Jim Hunkins wrote on 24.09.2010: Arrived in Canada today. Mine arrived here in Switzerland today. So for me it's QL Today, for many of you it's already QL yesterday. I will have a first read later on today. I don't raise the question of how can it be that it takes 11 days longer for Austrian/Swiss post to ship from Austria to Switzerland than it took from Austria to Canada. In those 11 days I could walk to where Jochen sent it of easily. Urs ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Urs Koenig (QL) wrote: I don't raise the question of how can it be that it takes 11 days longer for Austrian/Swiss post to ship from Austria to Switzerland than it took from Austria to Canada. In those 11 days I could walk to where Jochen sent it of easily. Well, the Swiss are not exactly known for their speed, are they? :-D Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
Jim Hunkins wrote on 24.09.2010: Arrived in Canada today. Mine arrived here in Switzerland today. So for me it's QL Today, for many of you it's already QL yesterday. I will have a first read later on today. I don't raise the question of how can it be that it takes 11 days longer for Austrian/Swiss post to ship from Austria to Switzerland than it took from Austria to Canada. In those 11 days I could walk to where Jochen sent it of easily. Urs Well, there we have it. The ultimate cost-saver for Jochen. He would be able to walk all over Europe to drop off copies knowing that in most cases he'd get there quicker than the postal services could manage ;-)) Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Op 4/10/2010 16:17, Urs Koenig (QL) schreef: Jim Hunkins wrote on 24.09.2010: Arrived in Canada today. Mine arrived here in Switzerland today. So for me it's QL Today, for many of you it's already QL yesterday. I will have a first read later on today. I don't raise the question of how can it be that it takes 11 days longer for Austrian/Swiss post to ship from Austria to Switzerland than it took from Austria to Canada. In those 11 days I could walk to where Jochen sent it of easily. Urs ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Lucky you. Mine (Belgium) hasn't arrived yet. Last time I had to wait for more than a month. But I learnt to be patient... I know I will receive it. François VanEmelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Hehee, yes, but the question is: who pays for the travelling? Cheers Jochen Dilwyn Jones wrote: Jim Hunkins wrote on 24.09.2010: Arrived in Canada today. Mine arrived here in Switzerland today. So for me it's QL Today, for many of you it's already QL yesterday. I will have a first read later on today. I don't raise the question of how can it be that it takes 11 days longer for Austrian/Swiss post to ship from Austria to Switzerland than it took from Austria to Canada. In those 11 days I could walk to where Jochen sent it of easily. Urs Well, there we have it. The ultimate cost-saver for Jochen. He would be able to walk all over Europe to drop off copies knowing that in most cases he'd get there quicker than the postal services could manage ;-)) Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Lucky you. Mine (Belgium) hasn't arrived yet. Last time I had to wait for more than a month. But I learnt to be patient... I know I will receive it. I'm sure you will :-) Jochen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
- Original Message - From: Jochen Merz jm...@j-m-s.com To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1 Hehee, yes, but the question is: who pays for the travelling? Cheers Jochen Who said anything about PAYING for the travelling? You're WALKING - a few good pair of shoes is all you need (and some friends at the border checkpoints maybe). (and perhaps a QL to pass the time while waiting at the checkpoints...) Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
Dilwyn Jones wrote: - Original Message - From: Jochen Merz jm...@j-m-s.com To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1 Hehee, yes, but the question is: who pays for the travelling? Cheers Jochen Who said anything about PAYING for the travelling? You're WALKING - a few good pair of shoes is all you need (and some friends at the border checkpoints maybe). (and perhaps a QL to pass the time while waiting at the checkpoints...) Dilwyn Jones Hard to deliver to the UK by WALKING ONLY ... Cheers Jochen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Jochen Merz jm...@j-m-s.com wrote: Hard to deliver to the UK by WALKING ONLY ... There's a tunnel nowadays ;) Which means that since we drive on on the wrong side of the road here on the continent we should probably soon switch to the left :D /Petri ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Yes, I know... I even used it three times and went back using the ferries - cheaper, more flexible ... well, until they decided to add high surcharges when you reached the ferry EARLIER than planned. I guess if anybody attempts to get into the tunnel by foot, he will be locked away, being treated as terrorist or illegal immigrant... Not to forget that the tunnel is quite dangerous - flying doors every now and then ... I remember that happened an hour or two later to a train after we used the channel tunnel the second time. Cheers Jochen Petri Pellinen wrote: On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Jochen Merz jm...@j-m-s.com wrote: Hard to deliver to the UK by WALKING ONLY ... There's a tunnel nowadays ;) Which means that since we drive on on the wrong side of the road here on the continent we should probably soon switch to the left :D /Petri ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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In message 4c9c73e8.7090...@j-m-s.com, Jochen Merz jm...@j-m-s.com writes Hi, Not arrived in London, as yet. Maybe on Monday ... ? PS - The Quanta magazine arrived, though, Friday 24th September 2010. Great - that was quick again. So the critical time for delays seems to be the christmas time... we'll find out with the next issue. Cheers Jochen James Hunkins wrote: Arrived in Canada today. jim On 22-09-2010, at 12:46 PM, SMSQ - Jochen Merz wrote: :-) Glad to read this ... I hope that the other issues arrive quickly at their destinations - they are all on their way. I am happy to deliver another issue with many bonus pages next time too - provided, we get enough material for the next issue in time!!! Cheers Jochen Anton Preinsack wrote: Am 19.09.2010 um 13:06 schrieb Frank-Guido Dibowski: QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1 arrived here(Germany, Eifel) yesterday. I like it Regards to all, Frank-Guido Dibowski QL Today arrived here in Vienna/Austria (and I like it, too;-)). Regards, Anton ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Great - that was quick again. So the critical time for delays seems to be the christmas time... we'll find out with the next issue. Cheers Jochen James Hunkins wrote: Arrived in Canada today. jim On 22-09-2010, at 12:46 PM, SMSQ - Jochen Merz wrote: :-) Glad to read this ... I hope that the other issues arrive quickly at their destinations - they are all on their way. I am happy to deliver another issue with many bonus pages next time too - provided, we get enough material for the next issue in time!!! Cheers Jochen Anton Preinsack wrote: Am 19.09.2010 um 13:06 schrieb Frank-Guido Dibowski: QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1 arrived here(Germany, Eifel) yesterday. I like it Regards to all, Frank-Guido Dibowski QL Today arrived here in Vienna/Austria (and I like it, too;-)). Regards, Anton ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Arrived in Canada today. jim On 22-09-2010, at 12:46 PM, SMSQ - Jochen Merz wrote: :-) Glad to read this ... I hope that the other issues arrive quickly at their destinations - they are all on their way. I am happy to deliver another issue with many bonus pages next time too - provided, we get enough material for the next issue in time!!! Cheers Jochen Anton Preinsack wrote: Am 19.09.2010 um 13:06 schrieb Frank-Guido Dibowski: QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1 arrived here(Germany, Eifel) yesterday. I like it Regards to all, Frank-Guido Dibowski QL Today arrived here in Vienna/Austria (and I like it, too;-)). Regards, Anton ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Jochen Merz Software - Kaiser-Wilhelm-Str. 302 - D-47169 Duisburg Tel. +49-(0)203-502011 Fax +49-(0)203-502012 Email: s...@j-m-s.com Homepage: http://SMSQ.J-M-S.COM ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Am 19.09.2010 um 13:06 schrieb Frank-Guido Dibowski: QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1 arrived here(Germany, Eifel) yesterday. I like it Regards to all, Frank-Guido Dibowski QL Today arrived here in Vienna/Austria (and I like it, too;-)). Regards, Anton ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
