Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-09-01 Thread Eric Broch 

When you do a wget it should retain the privileges of the existing file.

On 9/1/2020 4:34 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


yes

On 9/1/2020 1:39 AM, David Bray wrote:

Hey cool thanks for the dir listing
is the permissions critical here, noting that 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/master/dspamdb.sh

leaves the ownership as root.root and perms 644

David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 23:29, Eric Broch > wrote:


Here's my domain level directory. There are no .qmail-user files
only .qmail-default :

# ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/
total 24
drwx-- 11 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Oct 31  2019 .
drwx--  8 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  6  2019 ..
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user1
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user2
drwx--  4 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Aug 16 13:39 user2
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user4
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user5
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  8  2019 postmaster
-rw---  1 vpopmail vchkpw   56 Sep 14  2017 .qmail-default

Eric


On 8/31/2020 7:23 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


In the PER USER configuration the
'/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/.qmail-default' file
doesn't change and remains:

| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox



On 8/31/2020 7:20 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


So, here's what the directory directory looks like:

# ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user
total 52
drwx--   4 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Aug 16 13:39 .
drwx--  11 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Oct 31  2019 ..
drwx-- 357 vpopmail vchkpw 12288 Aug 31 07:10 Maildir
-rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw    21 Dec 28  2016 .mailfilter.dspam
-rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw    42 Aug 16 13:38 .qmail


.qmail file (one line no quotes):  "| preline /usr/bin/maildrop
./.mailfilter.dspam"


.mailfilter.dspam (here)  
.


Eric



On 8/31/2020 7:09 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


When I do per user the file .qmail file resides in that
person's home email directory
'/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user' (in the same
directory as Maildir).

This .qmail file contains the following:

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.


It does NOT duplicate email.


On 8/30/2020 10:33 PM, Remo Mattei wrote:

I have a little diff variant from Eric,
If I do the top level like Eric I do have the same config, if
I do per user I have the following in the .qmail-user

|/usr/bin/dspam  --deliver=innocent --user $EXT@$USER --debug
--mode=teft --feature=noise,whitelist --stdout -p -m |
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail ''
/home/vpopmail/domains/domain.ht/user 

Keep in mind if you do use RC, this becomes tricky since the
.qmail-user will become .qmail inside of the user home dir
and this will make duplicates (emails).

Just my 2 cents. Overall, it’s pretty similar to what Eric has.

Remo


On Aug 30, 2020, at 6:40 PM, David Bray
mailto:da...@brayworth.com.au>> wrote:

Thanks
My understanding of the beast just increased

Cheers

David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:29, Eric Broch
mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com>>
wrote:

This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain
level) file that's existed since the beginning and never
changed (directory: /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :

| /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as 
follows (/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.

The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all 
(below):



it creates the .qmail as a result

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
/home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/  




Eric

On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote:

Ok - working backwards from memory here
and when I read the install script I can see that the
.qmail file is not created

so (and this is getting off topic now)

  * there

Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-09-01 Thread Eric Broch 

yes

On 9/1/2020 1:39 AM, David Bray wrote:

Hey cool thanks for the dir listing
is the permissions critical here, noting that 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/master/dspamdb.sh

leaves the ownership as root.root and perms 644

David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 23:29, Eric Broch > wrote:


Here's my domain level directory. There are no .qmail-user files
only .qmail-default :

# ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/
total 24
drwx-- 11 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Oct 31  2019 .
drwx--  8 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  6  2019 ..
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user1
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user2
drwx--  4 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Aug 16 13:39 user2
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user4
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user5
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  8  2019 postmaster
-rw---  1 vpopmail vchkpw   56 Sep 14  2017 .qmail-default

Eric


On 8/31/2020 7:23 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


In the PER USER configuration the
'/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/.qmail-default' file doesn't
change and remains:

| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox



On 8/31/2020 7:20 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


So, here's what the directory directory looks like:

# ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user
total 52
drwx--   4 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Aug 16 13:39 .
drwx--  11 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Oct 31  2019 ..
drwx-- 357 vpopmail vchkpw 12288 Aug 31 07:10 Maildir
-rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw    21 Dec 28  2016 .mailfilter.dspam
-rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw    42 Aug 16 13:38 .qmail


.qmail file (one line no quotes):  "| preline /usr/bin/maildrop
./.mailfilter.dspam"


.mailfilter.dspam (here)  
.


Eric



On 8/31/2020 7:09 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


When I do per user the file .qmail file resides in that
person's home email directory
'/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user' (in the same
directory as Maildir).

This .qmail file contains the following:

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.


It does NOT duplicate email.


On 8/30/2020 10:33 PM, Remo Mattei wrote:

I have a little diff variant from Eric,
If I do the top level like Eric I do have the same config, if
I do per user I have the following in the .qmail-user

|/usr/bin/dspam  --deliver=innocent --user $EXT@$USER --debug
--mode=teft --feature=noise,whitelist --stdout -p -m |
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail ''
/home/vpopmail/domains/domain.ht/user 

Keep in mind if you do use RC, this becomes tricky since the
.qmail-user will become .qmail inside of the user home dir and
this will make duplicates (emails).

Just my 2 cents. Overall, it’s pretty similar to what Eric has.

Remo


On Aug 30, 2020, at 6:40 PM, David Bray
mailto:da...@brayworth.com.au>> wrote:

Thanks
My understanding of the beast just increased

Cheers

David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:29, Eric Broch
mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com>> wrote:

This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain level)
file that's existed since the beginning and never changed
(directory: /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :

| /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as 
follows (/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.

The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all 
(below):



it creates the .qmail as a result

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
/home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/  




Eric

On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote:

Ok - working backwards from memory here
and when I read the install script I can see that the
.qmail file is not created

so (and this is getting off topic now)

  * there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
  * and
it's likely that these came from an older

Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-09-01 Thread David Bray 
Hey cool thanks for the dir listing
is the permissions critical here, noting that
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/master/dspamdb.sh
leaves the ownership as root.root and perms 644

David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 23:29, Eric Broch  wrote:

> Here's my domain level directory. There are no .qmail-user files only
> .qmail-default :
>
> # ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/
> total 24
> drwx-- 11 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Oct 31  2019 .
> drwx--  8 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  6  2019 ..
> drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user1
> drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user2
> drwx--  4 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Aug 16 13:39 user2
> drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user4
> drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user5
> drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  8  2019 postmaster
> -rw---  1 vpopmail vchkpw   56 Sep 14  2017 .qmail-default
>
> Eric
>
>
> On 8/31/2020 7:23 AM, Eric Broch wrote:
>
> In the PER USER configuration the
> '/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/.qmail-default' file doesn't change
> and remains:
>
> | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox
>
>
>
> On 8/31/2020 7:20 AM, Eric Broch wrote:
>
> So, here's what the directory directory looks like:
>
> # ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user
> total 52
> drwx--   4 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Aug 16 13:39 .
> drwx--  11 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Oct 31  2019 ..
> drwx-- 357 vpopmail vchkpw 12288 Aug 31 07:10 Maildir
> -rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw21 Dec 28  2016 .mailfilter.dspam
> -rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw42 Aug 16 13:38 .qmail
>
>
> .qmail file (one line no quotes):  "| preline /usr/bin/maildrop
> ./.mailfilter.dspam"
>
>
> .mailfilter.dspam (here) 
> .
>
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On 8/31/2020 7:09 AM, Eric Broch wrote:
>
> When I do per user the file .qmail file resides in that person's home
> email directory '/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user' (in the same
> directory as Maildir).
>
> This .qmail file contains the following:
>
> | preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam
>
> .mailfilter.dspam here 
> .
>
>
> It does NOT duplicate email.
>
>
> On 8/30/2020 10:33 PM, Remo Mattei wrote:
>
> I have a little diff variant from Eric,
> If I do the top level like Eric I do have the same config, if I do per
> user I have the following in the .qmail-user
>
> |/usr/bin/dspam  --deliver=innocent --user $EXT@$USER --debug --mode=teft
> --feature=noise,whitelist --stdout -p -m | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail
> '' /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.ht/user
>
> Keep in mind if you do use RC, this becomes tricky since the .qmail-user
> will become .qmail inside of the user home dir and this will make
> duplicates (emails).
>
> Just my 2 cents. Overall, it’s pretty similar to what Eric has.
>
> Remo
>
> On Aug 30, 2020, at 6:40 PM, David Bray  wrote:
>
> Thanks
> My understanding of the beast just increased
>
> Cheers
>
> David Bray
> 0418 745334
> 2 ∞ & <
>
>
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:29, Eric Broch  wrote:
>
>> This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain level) file that's
>> existed since the beginning and never changed (directory:
>> /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :
>>
>> | /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
>> /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox
>>
>> The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as 
>> follows (/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :
>>
>> | preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam
>>
>> .mailfilter.dspam here 
>> .
>>
>> The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all (below):
>>
>> 
>>
>> it creates the .qmail as a result
>>
>> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
>> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>>
>>
>> if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:
>>
>> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
>> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>> /home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/ 
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote:
>>
>> Ok - working backwards from memory here
>> and when I read the install script I can see that the .qmail file is not
>> created
>>
>> so (and this is getting off topic now)
>>
>>- there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
>>- and
>>it's likely that these came from an older install
>>   - so they should be removed ..
>>
>>
>> David Bray
>> 0418 745334
>> 2 ∞ & <
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Eric Broch  wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmm...
>>>
>>> I never had double delivery and mine's been installed for 5 years or
>>> more.
>>>
>>> The install script installs only one dot qmail file (.qmail-default),
>>> and

Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-31 Thread Eric Broch 

And, you're not using DSpam

On 8/31/2020 4:52 PM, Eric Broch wrote:


You're good and are using Sieve it looks like.

On 8/31/2020 4:50 PM, Leonardo wrote:


All my domains have only .qmail-default at domain level (and none at 
user level):


| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

Except one only-tests domain has:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline -f /usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -d $EXT@$USER 
-o postmaster_address=postmaster@domain


I have a COS7 and used the install scripts but I remember when I use 
Qmail Admin for vacation messages and aliases it didn't work, so I 
had to replace the dovecot/deliver line for the vdelivermail line.


So I guess I'm not using dspam at all, right?

Em 2020-08-31 10:28, Eric Broch escreveu:

Here's my domain level directory. There are no .qmail-user files 
only .qmail-default :


# ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/
total 24
drwx-- 11 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Oct 31  2019 .
drwx--  8 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  6  2019 ..
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user1
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user2
drwx--  4 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Aug 16 13:39 user2
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user4
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user5
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  8  2019 postmaster
-rw---  1 vpopmail vchkpw   56 Sep 14  2017 .qmail-default

Eric

On 8/31/2020 7:23 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


In the PER USER configuration the 
'/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/.qmail-default' file doesn't 
change and remains:


| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

On 8/31/2020 7:20 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


So, here's what the directory directory looks like:

# ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user
total 52
drwx--   4 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Aug 16 13:39 .
drwx--  11 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Oct 31  2019 ..
drwx-- 357 vpopmail vchkpw 12288 Aug 31 07:10 Maildir
-rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw    21 Dec 28  2016 .mailfilter.dspam
-rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw    42 Aug 16 13:38 .qmail

.qmail file (one line no quotes):  "| preline /usr/bin/maildrop 
./.mailfilter.dspam"


.mailfilter.dspam (here)  
.

Eric


On 8/31/2020 7:09 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


When I do per user the file .qmail file resides in that person's 
home email directory '/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user' 
(in the same directory as Maildir).


This .qmail file contains the following:

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.


It does NOT duplicate email.

On 8/30/2020 10:33 PM, Remo Mattei wrote:

I have a little diff variant from Eric,
If I do the top level like Eric I do have the same config, if I 
do per user I have the following in the .qmail-user
|/usr/bin/dspam  --deliver=innocent --user $EXT@$USER --debug 
--mode=teft --feature=noise,whitelist --stdout -p -m | 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' 
/home/vpopmail/domains/domain.ht/user
Keep in mind if you do use RC, this becomes tricky since the 
.qmail-user will become .qmail inside of the user home dir and 
this will make duplicates (emails).

Just my 2 cents. Overall, it's pretty similar to what Eric has.
Remo

On Aug 30, 2020, at 6:40 PM, David Bray > wrote:


Thanks
My understanding of the beast just increased
Cheers

David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:29, Eric Broch 
mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com>> wrote:


This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain level)
file that's existed since the beginning and never changed
(directory: /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :

| /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as 
follows (/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.

The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all (below):



it creates the .qmail as a result

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
/home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/  




Eric

On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote:

Ok - working backwards from memory here
and when I read the install script I can see that the
.qmail file is not created
so (and this is getting off topic now)

  * there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
  * and
it's likely that these came from an

Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-31 Thread Eric Broch 

You're good and are using Sieve it looks like.

On 8/31/2020 4:50 PM, Leonardo wrote:


All my domains have only .qmail-default at domain level (and none at 
user level):


| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

Except one only-tests domain has:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline -f /usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -d $EXT@$USER 
-o postmaster_address=postmaster@domain


I have a COS7 and used the install scripts but I remember when I use 
Qmail Admin for vacation messages and aliases it didn't work, so I had 
to replace the dovecot/deliver line for the vdelivermail line.


So I guess I'm not using dspam at all, right?

Em 2020-08-31 10:28, Eric Broch escreveu:

Here's my domain level directory. There are no .qmail-user files only 
.qmail-default :


# ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/
total 24
drwx-- 11 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Oct 31  2019 .
drwx--  8 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  6  2019 ..
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user1
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user2
drwx--  4 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Aug 16 13:39 user2
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user4
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user5
drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  8  2019 postmaster
-rw---  1 vpopmail vchkpw   56 Sep 14  2017 .qmail-default

Eric

On 8/31/2020 7:23 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


In the PER USER configuration the 
'/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/.qmail-default' file doesn't 
change and remains:


| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

On 8/31/2020 7:20 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


So, here's what the directory directory looks like:

# ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user
total 52
drwx--   4 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Aug 16 13:39 .
drwx--  11 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Oct 31  2019 ..
drwx-- 357 vpopmail vchkpw 12288 Aug 31 07:10 Maildir
-rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw    21 Dec 28  2016 .mailfilter.dspam
-rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw    42 Aug 16 13:38 .qmail

.qmail file (one line no quotes):  "| preline /usr/bin/maildrop 
./.mailfilter.dspam"


.mailfilter.dspam (here)  
.

Eric


On 8/31/2020 7:09 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


When I do per user the file .qmail file resides in that person's 
home email directory '/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user' 
(in the same directory as Maildir).


This .qmail file contains the following:

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.


It does NOT duplicate email.

On 8/30/2020 10:33 PM, Remo Mattei wrote:

I have a little diff variant from Eric,
If I do the top level like Eric I do have the same config, if I 
do per user I have the following in the .qmail-user
|/usr/bin/dspam  --deliver=innocent --user $EXT@$USER --debug 
--mode=teft --feature=noise,whitelist --stdout -p -m | 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' 
/home/vpopmail/domains/domain.ht/user
Keep in mind if you do use RC, this becomes tricky since the 
.qmail-user will become .qmail inside of the user home dir and 
this will make duplicates (emails).

Just my 2 cents. Overall, it's pretty similar to what Eric has.
Remo

On Aug 30, 2020, at 6:40 PM, David Bray > wrote:


Thanks
My understanding of the beast just increased
Cheers

David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:29, Eric Broch 
mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com>> wrote:


This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain level)
file that's existed since the beginning and never changed
(directory: /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :

| /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as 
follows (/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.

The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all (below):



it creates the .qmail as a result

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
/home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/  




Eric

On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote:

Ok - working backwards from memory here
and when I read the install script I can see that the
.qmail file is not created
so (and this is getting off topic now)

  * there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
  * and
it's likely that these came from an older install
  o so they should be removed ..


David Bray

Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-31 Thread Leonardo 
All my domains have only .qmail-default at domain level (and none at
user level): 

| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox 

Except one only-tests domain has: 

|/var/qmail/bin/preline -f /usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -d $EXT@$USER -o
postmaster_address=postmaster@domain 

I have a COS7 and used the install scripts but I remember when I use
Qmail Admin for vacation messages and aliases it didn't work, so I had
to replace the dovecot/deliver line for the vdelivermail line. 

So I guess I'm not using dspam at all, right?

Em 2020-08-31 10:28, Eric Broch escreveu:

> Here's my domain level directory. There are no .qmail-user files only 
> .qmail-default : 
> 
> # ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/
> total 24
> drwx-- 11 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Oct 31  2019 .
> drwx--  8 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  6  2019 ..
> drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user1
> drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user2
> drwx--  4 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Aug 16 13:39 user2
> drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user4
> drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user5
> drwx--  3 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  8  2019 postmaster
> -rw---  1 vpopmail vchkpw   56 Sep 14  2017 .qmail-default 
> 
> Eric 
> 
> On 8/31/2020 7:23 AM, Eric Broch wrote: 
> 
> In the PER USER configuration the 
> '/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/.qmail-default' file doesn't change and 
> remains: 
> 
> | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox 
> 
> On 8/31/2020 7:20 AM, Eric Broch wrote: 
> 
> So, here's what the directory directory looks like: 
> 
> # ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user
> total 52
> drwx--   4 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Aug 16 13:39 .
> drwx--  11 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Oct 31  2019 ..
> drwx-- 357 vpopmail vchkpw 12288 Aug 31 07:10 Maildir
> -rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw21 Dec 28  2016 .mailfilter.dspam
> -rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw42 Aug 16 13:38 .qmail 
> 
> .qmail file (one line no quotes):  "| preline /usr/bin/maildrop 
> ./.mailfilter.dspam" 
> 
> .mailfilter.dspam (here) [1].
> 
> Eric 
> 
> On 8/31/2020 7:09 AM, Eric Broch wrote: 
> 
> When I do per user the file .qmail file resides in that person's home email 
> directory '/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user' (in the same directory 
> as Maildir). 
> 
> This .qmail file contains the following:
> 
> | preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam
> 
> .mailfilter.dspam here [1].
> 
> It does NOT duplicate email.
> 
> On 8/30/2020 10:33 PM, Remo Mattei wrote: I have a little diff variant from 
> Eric,  
> If I do the top level like Eric I do have the same config, if I do per user I 
> have the following in the .qmail-user  
> 
> |/usr/bin/dspam  --deliver=innocent --user $EXT@$USER --debug --mode=teft 
> --feature=noise,whitelist --stdout -p -m | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' 
> /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.ht/user 
> 
> Keep in mind if you do use RC, this becomes tricky since the .qmail-user will 
> become .qmail inside of the user home dir and this will make duplicates 
> (emails).  
> 
> Just my 2 cents. Overall, it's pretty similar to what Eric has.  
> 
> Remo 
> 
> On Aug 30, 2020, at 6:40 PM, David Bray  wrote: 
> 
> Thanks 
> My understanding of the beast just increased 
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> David Bray 
> 0418 745334
> 2 ∞ & < 
> 
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:29, Eric Broch  wrote: 
> 
> This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain level) file that's existed 
> since the beginning and never changed (directory: 
> /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :
> 
> | /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
> /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox
> 
> The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as 
> follows (/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :
> 
> | preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam
> 
> .mailfilter.dspam here [1].
> 
> The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all (below):
> 
> 
> 
> it creates the .qmail as a result   
> 
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
> 
> if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:
> 
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter 
> /home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/ [2]
> 
> 
> 
> Eric
> 
> On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote: 
> Ok - working backwards from memory here 
> and when I read the install script I can see that the .qmail file is not 
> created 
> 
> so (and this is getting off topic now) 
> 
> * there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
> 
> * and
> it's likely that these came from an older install 
> 
> * so they should be removed ..
> 
> David Bray 
> 0418 745334
> 2 ∞ & < 
> 
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Eric Broch  wrote: 
> 
> Hmmm... 
> 
> I never had double delivery and mine's been installed for 5 years or more. 
> 
> The install

Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-31 Thread Eric Broch 
In the PER USER configuration the 
'/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/.qmail-default' file doesn't change 
and remains:


| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox



On 8/31/2020 7:20 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


So, here's what the directory directory looks like:

# ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user
total 52
drwx--   4 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Aug 16 13:39 .
drwx--  11 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Oct 31  2019 ..
drwx-- 357 vpopmail vchkpw 12288 Aug 31 07:10 Maildir
-rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw    21 Dec 28  2016 .mailfilter.dspam
-rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw    42 Aug 16 13:38 .qmail


.qmail file (one line no quotes):  "| preline /usr/bin/maildrop 
./.mailfilter.dspam"



.mailfilter.dspam (here)  
.


Eric



On 8/31/2020 7:09 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


When I do per user the file .qmail file resides in that person's home 
email directory '/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user' (in the 
same directory as Maildir).


This .qmail file contains the following:

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.


It does NOT duplicate email.


On 8/30/2020 10:33 PM, Remo Mattei wrote:

I have a little diff variant from Eric,
If I do the top level like Eric I do have the same config, if I do 
per user I have the following in the .qmail-user


|/usr/bin/dspam  --deliver=innocent --user $EXT@$USER --debug 
--mode=teft --feature=noise,whitelist --stdout -p -m | 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.ht/user


Keep in mind if you do use RC, this becomes tricky since the 
.qmail-user will become .qmail inside of the user home dir and this 
will make duplicates (emails).


Just my 2 cents. Overall, it’s pretty similar to what Eric has.

Remo

On Aug 30, 2020, at 6:40 PM, David Bray > wrote:


Thanks
My understanding of the beast just increased

Cheers

David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:29, Eric Broch > wrote:


This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain level) file
that's existed since the beginning and never changed
(directory: /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :

| /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as 
follows (/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.

The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all (below):



it creates the .qmail as a result

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
/home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/  




Eric

On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote:

Ok - working backwards from memory here
and when I read the install script I can see that the .qmail
file is not created

so (and this is getting off topic now)

  * there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
  * and
it's likely that these came from an older install
  o so they should be removed ..


David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Eric Broch
mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com>> wrote:

Hmmm...

I never had double delivery and mine's been installed for
5 years or more.

The install script installs only one dot qmail file
(.qmail-default), and only after a query to implement at
domain level.

You have the option to run dspam at domain or user level.

Please show me where in the install procedure a .qmail
file is created with the following line:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter

?

The install script is for CentOS 5/6/7. I've yet to
upgrade it for 8.

I would recommend Dspam; however, it needs some attention.

Eric


On 8/30/2020 4:31 PM, David Bray wrote:

I wondered this exact question and was going to ask this
question
I've wondered how it actually works
I've disabled it

if it works as documented at:

  * https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/

it creates the .qmail as a result

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


if you

Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-31 Thread Eric Broch 

So, here's what the directory directory looks like:

# ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user
total 52
drwx--   4 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Aug 16 13:39 .
drwx--  11 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Oct 31  2019 ..
drwx-- 357 vpopmail vchkpw 12288 Aug 31 07:10 Maildir
-rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw    21 Dec 28  2016 .mailfilter.dspam
-rw---   1 vpopmail vchkpw    42 Aug 16 13:38 .qmail


.qmail file (one line no quotes):  "| preline /usr/bin/maildrop 
./.mailfilter.dspam"



.mailfilter.dspam (here)  
.


Eric



On 8/31/2020 7:09 AM, Eric Broch wrote:


When I do per user the file .qmail file resides in that person's home 
email directory '/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user' (in the 
same directory as Maildir).


This .qmail file contains the following:

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.


It does NOT duplicate email.


On 8/30/2020 10:33 PM, Remo Mattei wrote:

I have a little diff variant from Eric,
If I do the top level like Eric I do have the same config, if I do 
per user I have the following in the .qmail-user


|/usr/bin/dspam  --deliver=innocent --user $EXT@$USER --debug 
--mode=teft --feature=noise,whitelist --stdout -p -m | 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.ht/user


Keep in mind if you do use RC, this becomes tricky since the 
.qmail-user will become .qmail inside of the user home dir and this 
will make duplicates (emails).


Just my 2 cents. Overall, it’s pretty similar to what Eric has.

Remo

On Aug 30, 2020, at 6:40 PM, David Bray > wrote:


Thanks
My understanding of the beast just increased

Cheers

David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:29, Eric Broch > wrote:


This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain level) file
that's existed since the beginning and never changed (directory:
/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :

| /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as 
follows (/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.

The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all (below):



it creates the .qmail as a result

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
/home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/  




Eric

On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote:

Ok - working backwards from memory here
and when I read the install script I can see that the .qmail
file is not created

so (and this is getting off topic now)

  * there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
  * and
it's likely that these came from an older install
  o so they should be removed ..


David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Eric Broch
mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com>> wrote:

Hmmm...

I never had double delivery and mine's been installed for 5
years or more.

The install script installs only one dot qmail file
(.qmail-default), and only after a query to implement at
domain level.

You have the option to run dspam at domain or user level.

Please show me where in the install procedure a .qmail file
is created with the following line:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter

?

The install script is for CentOS 5/6/7. I've yet to upgrade
it for 8.

I would recommend Dspam; however, it needs some attention.

Eric


On 8/30/2020 4:31 PM, David Bray wrote:

I wondered this exact question and was going to ask this
question
I've wondered how it actually works
I've disabled it

if it works as documented at:

  * https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/

it creates the .qmail as a result

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file
becomes:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter

Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-31 Thread Eric Broch 
When I do per user the file .qmail file resides in that person's home 
email directory '/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user' (in the same 
directory as Maildir).


This .qmail file contains the following:

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.


It does NOT duplicate email.


On 8/30/2020 10:33 PM, Remo Mattei wrote:

I have a little diff variant from Eric,
If I do the top level like Eric I do have the same config, if I do per 
user I have the following in the .qmail-user


|/usr/bin/dspam  --deliver=innocent --user $EXT@$USER --debug 
--mode=teft --feature=noise,whitelist --stdout -p -m | 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.ht/user


Keep in mind if you do use RC, this becomes tricky since the 
.qmail-user will become .qmail inside of the user home dir and this 
will make duplicates (emails).


Just my 2 cents. Overall, it’s pretty similar to what Eric has.

Remo

On Aug 30, 2020, at 6:40 PM, David Bray > wrote:


Thanks
My understanding of the beast just increased

Cheers

David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:29, Eric Broch > wrote:


This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain level) file
that's existed since the beginning and never changed (directory:
/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :

| /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as 
follows (/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.

The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all (below):



it creates the .qmail as a result

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
/home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/  




Eric

On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote:

Ok - working backwards from memory here
and when I read the install script I can see that the .qmail
file is not created

so (and this is getting off topic now)

  * there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
  * and
it's likely that these came from an older install
  o so they should be removed ..


David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Eric Broch
mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com>> wrote:

Hmmm...

I never had double delivery and mine's been installed for 5
years or more.

The install script installs only one dot qmail file
(.qmail-default), and only after a query to implement at
domain level.

You have the option to run dspam at domain or user level.

Please show me where in the install procedure a .qmail file
is created with the following line:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter

?

The install script is for CentOS 5/6/7. I've yet to upgrade
it for 8.

I would recommend Dspam; however, it needs some attention.

Eric


On 8/30/2020 4:31 PM, David Bray wrote:

I wondered this exact question and was going to ask this
question
I've wondered how it actually works
I've disabled it

if it works as documented at:

  * https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/

it creates the .qmail as a result

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file
becomes:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter

/home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/



which results in a double up of delivery ...
if you remove the file, the problem goes away

so at best it needs to be carefully monitored, but it is
still effective

but the newer scripted install does a pretty good job with
spamassassin anyway ... so I've disabled it..


David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 07:10, mailto:r...@mattei.org>> wrote:

I have used dspam from the early days so you could put
this as an option

Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-30 Thread Remo Mattei 
I have a little diff variant from Eric, 
If I do the top level like Eric I do have the same config, if I do per user I 
have the following in the .qmail-user 

|/usr/bin/dspam  --deliver=innocent --user $EXT@$USER --debug --mode=teft 
--feature=noise,whitelist --stdout -p -m | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' 
/home/vpopmail/domains/domain.ht/user

Keep in mind if you do use RC, this becomes tricky since the .qmail-user will 
become .qmail inside of the user home dir and this will make duplicates 
(emails). 

Just my 2 cents. Overall, it’s pretty similar to what Eric has. 

Remo

> On Aug 30, 2020, at 6:40 PM, David Bray  wrote:
> 
> Thanks
> My understanding of the beast just increased
> 
> Cheers
> 
> David Bray
> 0418 745334
> 2 ∞ & <
> 
> 
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:29, Eric Broch  > wrote:
> This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain level) file that's existed 
> since the beginning and never changed (directory: 
> /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :
> 
> | /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
> /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox
> 
> The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as 
> follows (/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :
> 
> | preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam
> 
> .mailfilter.dspam here 
> .
> 
> The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all (below):
> 
> 
> 
> it creates the .qmail as a result   
> 
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
> 
> 
> if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:
> 
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter 
> /home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/ 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Eric
> On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote:
>> Ok - working backwards from memory here
>> and when I read the install script I can see that the .qmail file is not 
>> created
>> 
>> so (and this is getting off topic now)
>> there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
>> and
>> it's likely that these came from an older install
>> so they should be removed ..
>> 
>> David Bray
>> 0418 745334
>> 2 ∞ & <
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Eric Broch > > wrote:
>> Hmmm...
>> 
>> I never had double delivery and mine's been installed for 5 years or more.
>> 
>> The install script installs only one dot qmail file (.qmail-default), and 
>> only after a query to implement at domain level.
>> 
>> You have the option to run dspam at domain or user level.
>> 
>> Please show me where in the install procedure a .qmail file is created with 
>> the following line:
>> 
>> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
>> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> The install script is for CentOS 5/6/7. I've yet to upgrade it for 8.
>> 
>> I would recommend Dspam; however, it needs some attention.
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/30/2020 4:31 PM, David Bray wrote:
>>> I wondered this exact question and was going to ask this question
>>> I've wondered how it actually works
>>> I've disabled it
>>> 
>>> if it works as documented at:
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/ 
>>> it creates the .qmail 
>>> as a result
>>> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
>>> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>>> 
>>> if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:
>>> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
>>> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>>> /home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/ 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> which results in a double up of delivery ...
>>> if you remove the file, the problem goes away
>>> 
>>> so at best it needs to be carefully monitored, but it is still effective
>>> 
>>> but the newer scripted install does a pretty good job with spamassassin 
>>> anyway ... so I've disabled it..
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Bray
>>> 0418 745334
>>> 2 ∞ & <
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 07:10, mailto:r...@mattei.org>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> I have used dspam from the early days so you could put this as an option on 
>>> your playbook. 
>>> 
>>> Just my 2cents 
>>> > Il giorno 30 ago 2020, alle ore 13:43, Angus McIntyre >> > > ha scritto:
>>> > 
>>> > I'm (still!) working on my Ansible role for installing qmailtoaster, but 
>>> > I've switched to CentOS 8, based on Eric's new script, and it seems much 
>>> > more straightforward and robust.
>>> > 
>>> > One question I have is whether I should try to support dspam or not. It 
>>> > looks as if the project was abandoned in 2014, amid reports that dspam 
>>> > never performed as well as the

Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-30 Thread David Bray 
Thanks
My understanding of the beast just increased

Cheers

David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:29, Eric Broch  wrote:

> This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain level) file that's
> existed since the beginning and never changed (directory:
> /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :
>
> | /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
> /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox
>
> The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as 
> follows (/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :
>
> | preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam
>
> .mailfilter.dspam here 
> .
>
> The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all (below):
>
> 
>
> it creates the .qmail as a result
>
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>
>
> if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:
>
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
> /home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/ 
> 
>
> 
>
> Eric
>
> On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote:
>
> Ok - working backwards from memory here
> and when I read the install script I can see that the .qmail file is not
> created
>
> so (and this is getting off topic now)
>
>- there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
>- and
>it's likely that these came from an older install
>   - so they should be removed ..
>
>
> David Bray
> 0418 745334
> 2 ∞ & <
>
>
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Eric Broch  wrote:
>
>> Hmmm...
>>
>> I never had double delivery and mine's been installed for 5 years or more.
>>
>> The install script installs only one dot qmail file (.qmail-default), and
>> only after a query to implement at domain level.
>>
>> You have the option to run dspam at domain or user level.
>>
>> Please show me where in the install procedure a .qmail file is created
>> with the following line:
>>
>> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
>> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>>
>> ?
>>
>> The install script is for CentOS 5/6/7. I've yet to upgrade it for 8.
>>
>> I would recommend Dspam; however, it needs some attention.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On 8/30/2020 4:31 PM, David Bray wrote:
>>
>> I wondered this exact question and was going to ask this question
>> I've wondered how it actually works
>> I've disabled it
>>
>> if it works as documented at:
>>
>>- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/
>>
>> it creates the .qmail as a result
>>
>> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
>> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>>
>>
>> if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:
>>
>> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
>> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>>
>> /home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/
>> 
>>
>>
>> which results in a double up of delivery ...
>> if you remove the file, the problem goes away
>>
>> so at best it needs to be carefully monitored, but it is still effective
>>
>> but the newer scripted install does a pretty good job with spamassassin
>> anyway ... so I've disabled it..
>>
>>
>> David Bray
>> 0418 745334
>> 2 ∞ & <
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 07:10,  wrote:
>>
>>> I have used dspam from the early days so you could put this as an option
>>> on your playbook.
>>>
>>> Just my 2cents
>>> > Il giorno 30 ago 2020, alle ore 13:43, Angus McIntyre 
>>> ha scritto:
>>> >
>>> > I'm (still!) working on my Ansible role for installing qmailtoaster,
>>> but I've switched to CentOS 8, based on Eric's new script, and it seems
>>> much more straightforward and robust.
>>> >
>>> > One question I have is whether I should try to support dspam or not.
>>> It looks as if the project was abandoned in 2014, amid reports that dspam
>>> never performed as well as the developer claimed.
>>> >
>>> > Anyone have any thoughts or feelings (or, better, solid data) on
>>> whether it's worth including dspam in a qmailtoaster install?
>>> >
>>> > Angus
>>> >
>>> > -
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Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-30 Thread Eric Broch 
This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain level) file that's 
existed since the beginning and never changed (directory: 
/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :


| /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as follows 
(/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
.

The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all (below):



it creates the .qmail as a result

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' 
/etc/mail/mailfilter


if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' 
/etc/mail/mailfilter
/home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/



Eric



On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote:

Ok - working backwards from memory here
and when I read the install script I can see that the .qmail file is 
not created


so (and this is getting off topic now)

  * there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
  * and
it's likely that these came from an older install
  o so they should be removed ..


David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Eric Broch > wrote:


Hmmm...

I never had double delivery and mine's been installed for 5 years
or more.

The install script installs only one dot qmail file
(.qmail-default), and only after a query to implement at domain level.

You have the option to run dspam at domain or user level.

Please show me where in the install procedure a .qmail file is
created with the following line:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter

?

The install script is for CentOS 5/6/7. I've yet to upgrade it for 8.

I would recommend Dspam; however, it needs some attention.

Eric


On 8/30/2020 4:31 PM, David Bray wrote:

I wondered this exact question and was going to ask this question
I've wondered how it actually works
I've disabled it

if it works as documented at:

  * https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/

it creates the .qmail as a result

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter

/home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/



which results in a double up of delivery ...
if you remove the file, the problem goes away

so at best it needs to be carefully monitored, but it is still
effective

but the newer scripted install does a pretty good job with
spamassassin anyway ... so I've disabled it..


David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 07:10, mailto:r...@mattei.org>> wrote:

I have used dspam from the early days so you could put this
as an option on your playbook.

Just my 2cents
> Il giorno 30 ago 2020, alle ore 13:43, Angus McIntyre
mailto:an...@pobox.com>> ha scritto:
>
> I'm (still!) working on my Ansible role for installing
qmailtoaster, but I've switched to CentOS 8, based on Eric's
new script, and it seems much more straightforward and robust.
>
> One question I have is whether I should try to support
dspam or not. It looks as if the project was abandoned in
2014, amid reports that dspam never performed as well as the
developer claimed.
>
> Anyone have any thoughts or feelings (or, better, solid
data) on whether it's worth including dspam in a qmailtoaster
install?
>
> Angus
>
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Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-30 Thread remo 
Dub mail if you have more than one filter. So if you do default and user .qmail 
you will do get 2 copies.  I have used it since it came out started on centos 5 
and still good for me. 

Remo
> Il giorno 30 ago 2020, alle ore 18:06, David Bray  ha 
> scritto:
> 
> 
> Ok - working backwards from memory here
> and when I read the install script I can see that the .qmail file is not 
> created
> 
> so (and this is getting off topic now)
> there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
> and
> it's likely that these came from an older install
> so they should be removed ..
> 
> David Bray
> 0418 745334
> 2 ∞ & <
> 
> 
>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Eric Broch  wrote:
>> Hmmm...
>> 
>> I never had double delivery and mine's been installed for 5 years or more.
>> 
>> The install script installs only one dot qmail file (.qmail-default), and 
>> only after a query to implement at domain level.
>> 
>> You have the option to run dspam at domain or user level.
>> 
>> Please show me where in the install procedure a .qmail file is created with 
>> the following line:
>> 
>> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
>> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> The install script is for CentOS 5/6/7. I've yet to upgrade it for 8.
>> 
>> I would recommend Dspam; however, it needs some attention.
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/30/2020 4:31 PM, David Bray wrote:
>>> I wondered this exact question and was going to ask this question
>>> I've wondered how it actually works
>>> I've disabled it
>>> 
>>> if it works as documented at:
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/
>>> it creates the .qmail as a result
>>> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
>>> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>>> 
>>> if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:
>>> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
>>> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>>> /home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/
>>> 
>>> which results in a double up of delivery ...
>>> if you remove the file, the problem goes away
>>> 
>>> so at best it needs to be carefully monitored, but it is still effective
>>> 
>>> but the newer scripted install does a pretty good job with spamassassin 
>>> anyway ... so I've disabled it..
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Bray
>>> 0418 745334
>>> 2 ∞ & <
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 07:10,  wrote:
 I have used dspam from the early days so you could put this as an option 
 on your playbook. 
 
 Just my 2cents 
 > Il giorno 30 ago 2020, alle ore 13:43, Angus McIntyre  
 > ha scritto:
 > 
 > I'm (still!) working on my Ansible role for installing qmailtoaster, 
 > but I've switched to CentOS 8, based on Eric's new script, and it seems 
 > much more straightforward and robust.
 > 
 > One question I have is whether I should try to support dspam or not. It 
 > looks as if the project was abandoned in 2014, amid reports that dspam 
 > never performed as well as the developer claimed.
 > 
 > Anyone have any thoughts or feelings (or, better, solid data) on whether 
 > it's worth including dspam in a qmailtoaster install?
 > 
 > Angus
 > 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-30 Thread David Bray 
Ok - working backwards from memory here
and when I read the install script I can see that the .qmail file is not
created

so (and this is getting off topic now)

   - there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
   - and
   it's likely that these came from an older install
  - so they should be removed ..


David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Eric Broch  wrote:

> Hmmm...
>
> I never had double delivery and mine's been installed for 5 years or more.
>
> The install script installs only one dot qmail file (.qmail-default), and
> only after a query to implement at domain level.
>
> You have the option to run dspam at domain or user level.
>
> Please show me where in the install procedure a .qmail file is created
> with the following line:
>
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>
> ?
>
> The install script is for CentOS 5/6/7. I've yet to upgrade it for 8.
>
> I would recommend Dspam; however, it needs some attention.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On 8/30/2020 4:31 PM, David Bray wrote:
>
> I wondered this exact question and was going to ask this question
> I've wondered how it actually works
> I've disabled it
>
> if it works as documented at:
>
>- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/
>
> it creates the .qmail as a result
>
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>
>
> if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:
>
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>
> /home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/
> 
>
>
> which results in a double up of delivery ...
> if you remove the file, the problem goes away
>
> so at best it needs to be carefully monitored, but it is still effective
>
> but the newer scripted install does a pretty good job with spamassassin
> anyway ... so I've disabled it..
>
>
> David Bray
> 0418 745334
> 2 ∞ & <
>
>
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 07:10,  wrote:
>
>> I have used dspam from the early days so you could put this as an option
>> on your playbook.
>>
>> Just my 2cents
>> > Il giorno 30 ago 2020, alle ore 13:43, Angus McIntyre 
>> ha scritto:
>> >
>> > I'm (still!) working on my Ansible role for installing qmailtoaster,
>> but I've switched to CentOS 8, based on Eric's new script, and it seems
>> much more straightforward and robust.
>> >
>> > One question I have is whether I should try to support dspam or not. It
>> looks as if the project was abandoned in 2014, amid reports that dspam
>> never performed as well as the developer claimed.
>> >
>> > Anyone have any thoughts or feelings (or, better, solid data) on
>> whether it's worth including dspam in a qmailtoaster install?
>> >
>> > Angus
>> >
>> > -
>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com
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Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-30 Thread Eric Broch 

Hmmm...

I never had double delivery and mine's been installed for 5 years or more.

The install script installs only one dot qmail file (.qmail-default), 
and only after a query to implement at domain level.


You have the option to run dspam at domain or user level.

Please show me where in the install procedure a .qmail file is created 
with the following line:


|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


?

The install script is for CentOS 5/6/7. I've yet to upgrade it for 8.

I would recommend Dspam; however, it needs some attention.

Eric


On 8/30/2020 4:31 PM, David Bray wrote:

I wondered this exact question and was going to ask this question
I've wondered how it actually works
I've disabled it

if it works as documented at:

  * https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/

it creates the .qmail as a result

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter

/home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/



which results in a double up of delivery ...
if you remove the file, the problem goes away

so at best it needs to be carefully monitored, but it is still effective

but the newer scripted install does a pretty good job with 
spamassassin anyway ... so I've disabled it..



David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 07:10, > wrote:


I have used dspam from the early days so you could put this as an
option on your playbook.

Just my 2cents
> Il giorno 30 ago 2020, alle ore 13:43, Angus McIntyre
mailto:an...@pobox.com>> ha scritto:
>
> I'm (still!) working on my Ansible role for installing
qmailtoaster, but I've switched to CentOS 8, based on Eric's new
script, and it seems much more straightforward and robust.
>
> One question I have is whether I should try to support dspam or
not. It looks as if the project was abandoned in 2014, amid
reports that dspam never performed as well as the developer claimed.
>
> Anyone have any thoughts or feelings (or, better, solid data) on
whether it's worth including dspam in a qmailtoaster install?
>
> Angus
>
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Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-30 Thread David Bray 
I wondered this exact question and was going to ask this question
I've wondered how it actually works
I've disabled it

if it works as documented at:

   - https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/

it creates the .qmail as a result

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter

/home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/


which results in a double up of delivery ...
if you remove the file, the problem goes away

so at best it needs to be carefully monitored, but it is still effective

but the newer scripted install does a pretty good job with spamassassin
anyway ... so I've disabled it..


David Bray
0418 745334
2 ∞ & <


On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 07:10,  wrote:

> I have used dspam from the early days so you could put this as an option
> on your playbook.
>
> Just my 2cents
> > Il giorno 30 ago 2020, alle ore 13:43, Angus McIntyre 
> ha scritto:
> >
> > I'm (still!) working on my Ansible role for installing qmailtoaster,
> but I've switched to CentOS 8, based on Eric's new script, and it seems
> much more straightforward and robust.
> >
> > One question I have is whether I should try to support dspam or not. It
> looks as if the project was abandoned in 2014, amid reports that dspam
> never performed as well as the developer claimed.
> >
> > Anyone have any thoughts or feelings (or, better, solid data) on whether
> it's worth including dspam in a qmailtoaster install?
> >
> > Angus
> >
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Re: [qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-30 Thread remo 
I have used dspam from the early days so you could put this as an option on 
your playbook. 

Just my 2cents 
> Il giorno 30 ago 2020, alle ore 13:43, Angus McIntyre  ha 
> scritto:
> 
> I'm (still!) working on my Ansible role for installing qmailtoaster, but 
> I've switched to CentOS 8, based on Eric's new script, and it seems much more 
> straightforward and robust.
> 
> One question I have is whether I should try to support dspam or not. It looks 
> as if the project was abandoned in 2014, amid reports that dspam never 
> performed as well as the developer claimed.
> 
> Anyone have any thoughts or feelings (or, better, solid data) on whether it's 
> worth including dspam in a qmailtoaster install?
> 
> Angus
> 
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[qmailtoaster] dspam -- yay or nay?

2020-08-30 Thread Angus McIntyre 
I'm (still!) working on my Ansible role for installing qmailtoaster, but 
I've switched to CentOS 8, based on Eric's new script, and it seems much 
more straightforward and robust.


One question I have is whether I should try to support dspam or not. It 
looks as if the project was abandoned in 2014, amid reports that dspam 
never performed as well as the developer claimed.


Anyone have any thoughts or feelings (or, better, solid data) on whether 
it's worth including dspam in a qmailtoaster install?


Angus

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