Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-10-05 Thread Quinn Comendant
I've decided to go for the two-machine migration approach, but with a twist. 1) build a qmailtoaster on a second box 2) migrate the sendmail solution gradually to it 3) put the other box into production for a short time 4) build a qmailtoaster on the production box in an identical way to the

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-10-05 Thread Steve Huff
On Oct 5, 2006, at 4:07 AM, Quinn Comendant wrote: Because I find the Qmail - Qmail migration simpler than Sendmail - Sendmail, and installing QT is much easier than setting up Sendmail + extras. ;P do you know about Jake's backup script? http://www.v2gnu.com/qmail/backup-restore.html it

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-10-05 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Steve Huff wrote: On Oct 5, 2006, at 4:07 AM, Quinn Comendant wrote: Because I find the Qmail - Qmail migration simpler than Sendmail - Sendmail, and installing QT is much easier than setting up Sendmail + extras. ;P do you know about Jake's backup script?

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-10-05 Thread Quinn Comendant
do you know about Jake's backup script? http://www.v2gnu.com/qmail/backup-restore.html it may come in handy when migrating your config from one toaster to the other :) -steve --- I'd definitely use Jake's script. Moving queues can be tricky (unless they're empty!). I'm

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-27 Thread Erik Espinoza
I actually don't have that much experience with Dovecot, but more than Courier. I would vote in favor of using Dovecot for the following reasons: - It is part of the RHEL 4 distribution. It is already installed, and I can trust the source. Patches are automatically available via up2date.

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-27 Thread Michael Handiboe
Quinn Comendant wrote: Ok, ok...I see where this is going. I can do it on two machines. ;P yeah, dude, your head will not fit through that hole! stop it. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-27 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Steve Huff wrote: On Sep 26, 2006, at 7:27 PM, Quinn Comendant wrote: I will need to find _some_ solution. What are my options, as painful as they might be? so you have the old sendmail solution running on your production hardware right now? here's my suggestion: 1) build another box 2)

[qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-26 Thread Quinn Comendant
Hi All! (I couldn't find instructions for installing Qmail Toaster on top of an existing Sendmail server, so I'm asking here. (I'll add a wiki page for it once I've boiled it down.)) I have a RHEL 4 server running Sendmail/Dovecot with 500 passwd-based email accounts. I will be installing QT

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-26 Thread Erik Espinoza
Sounds like somebody likes pain . . . Without virtualization, you can't do this. Erik On 9/26/06, Quinn Comendant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All! (I couldn't find instructions for installing Qmail Toaster on top of an existing Sendmail server, so I'm asking here. (I'll add a wiki page for

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-26 Thread Quinn Comendant
Wow. That doesn't sound good! =( I'm actually totally surprised. I _honestly_ thought this would have been a common migration process. You're telling me *nobody* has ever upgraded from sendmail to QT, on the same machine? I will need to find _some_ solution. What are my options, as painful as

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-26 Thread Jake Vickers
Quinn Comendant wrote: Wow. That doesn't sound good! =( I'm actually totally surprised. I _honestly_ thought this would have been a common migration process. You're telling me *nobody* has ever upgraded from sendmail to QT, on the same machine? I will need to find _some_ solution. What are

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-26 Thread Steve Huff
On Sep 26, 2006, at 7:27 PM, Quinn Comendant wrote: I will need to find _some_ solution. What are my options, as painful as they might be? so you have the old sendmail solution running on your production hardware right now? here's my suggestion: 1) build another box 2) migrate the

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-26 Thread Jake Vickers
Quinn Comendant wrote: Is it not possible to monitor different IP addresses, both on port 25? Then I could change the MX records for mail delivered to the Sendmail IP to the Qmail IP? What about setting up Qmail to answer on port 2525 (or whatever) then configure Sendmail to forward all mail

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-26 Thread Quinn Comendant
I knew there would be a way. ;P I think using the method of a dedicated IP address for Qmail SMTP would be necessary in order to test the Simscan (and thus ClamAV and Spamassassin) functionality. Using procmail to pass messages to qmail-inject would be much easier but would bypass the Simscan

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-26 Thread Quinn Comendant
Ok, ok...I see where this is going. I can do it on two machines. ;P Dovecot doesn't support the vpopmail authentication system used with the QmailToaster. Therefore, we can't use Dovecot with the QmailToaster. Is it that Dovecot doesn't support vpopmail at all or just the way that

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-26 Thread Erik Espinoza
Is it that Dovecot doesn't support vpopmail at all or just the way that QmailToaster implements it? From this FAQ entry, it seems Dovecot does support vpopmail: http://wiki.dovecot.org/QuestionsAndAnswers#head-153aa253aff40951a05cf238da4245b1cc1a4665 Weird. I looked into it a while back,but

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-26 Thread Quinn Comendant
Dovecot doesn't support the vpopmail authentication system used with the QmailToaster. Therefore, we can't use Dovecot with the QmailToaster. Is it that Dovecot doesn't support vpopmail at all or just the way that QmailToaster implements it? From this FAQ entry, it seems Dovecot does

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-26 Thread Erik Espinoza
Cool. Very nice. Perhaps if there is some interest, I will develop a Dovecot qt package, but I don't really see the point. Perhaps you could help me understand. Are there any particular reasons why you want to use Dovecot over Courier? Erik On 9/26/06, Quinn Comendant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [qmailtoaster] How to install QT on top of sendmail?

2006-09-26 Thread Quinn Comendant
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:29:48 -0700, Erik Espinoza wrote: Cool. Very nice. Perhaps if there is some interest, I will develop a Dovecot qt package, but I don't really see the point. Perhaps you could help me understand. Are there any particular reasons why you want to use Dovecot over Courier?