Re: [qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 07:23:46PM +0200, u+q...@bestemt.no wrote: > Dominique St-Pierre Boucher [2017-03-23 14:54 > +0100]: > > I was able to build a jessie minimal template but not a stretch one. > > So I decided to clone it and upgrade the template. I ran into a lot of > > issues with that. The way I was able to finally do it was to enable > > the qubes-testing repo for stretch before the updgrade and doing the > > upgrade from the console (sudo xl console [vm_name]). > > I also was not able to build a stretch-minimal template, only > jessie-minimal. (I did not try to build any of the regular templates.) > > Notes: > > When updating jessie-minimal to unstable, you have to select the Qubes > testing repository; the Qubes unstable repository does not exist. > > When you update, be careful with apt-get dist-upgrade; it will remove > qubes-gui-agent, among others. I don't know if apt-get upgrade will > result in a full upgrade to debian unstable, but at least it will not > remove any of the essential qubes packages. > > There are detailed instructions for building an Archlinux template: > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/building-archlinux-template/ . Follow them, > replacing Arch with Debian. > > Do the building in a fedora-23 template. I can personally confirm that > using a fedora-24-minimal or fedora-25-minimal template causes a lot of > problems. If I had done it like that from the beginning, I probably > could have followed Unman's instructions without problem. (Thanks, by > the way!) > > -- > ubestemt You should be able to build a stretch template from qubes builder. The only issue comes with actually building the template - the packages all build fine. The issue here is that make template fails because of permissions set on /tmp in the prepared_image. If you have started 'make template' and the build fails, then you should: cd qubes-src/linux-template-builder/prepared_images sudo mount stretch-minimal.img /mnt sudo chmod 777 /mnt/tmp sudo umount /mnt cd ../../.. (back to qubes-builder) make template The second invocation will work and you will have a shiny stretch template at the end. (NB the permissions will remain as 777 on /tmp in the template and therefore in all qubes based on it. You can change this should you wish.) unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170429002745.GB13741%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
Dominique St-Pierre Boucher [2017-03-23 14:54 +0100]: > I was able to build a jessie minimal template but not a stretch one. > So I decided to clone it and upgrade the template. I ran into a lot of > issues with that. The way I was able to finally do it was to enable > the qubes-testing repo for stretch before the updgrade and doing the > upgrade from the console (sudo xl console [vm_name]). I also was not able to build a stretch-minimal template, only jessie-minimal. (I did not try to build any of the regular templates.) Notes: When updating jessie-minimal to unstable, you have to select the Qubes testing repository; the Qubes unstable repository does not exist. When you update, be careful with apt-get dist-upgrade; it will remove qubes-gui-agent, among others. I don't know if apt-get upgrade will result in a full upgrade to debian unstable, but at least it will not remove any of the essential qubes packages. There are detailed instructions for building an Archlinux template: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/building-archlinux-template/ . Follow them, replacing Arch with Debian. Do the building in a fedora-23 template. I can personally confirm that using a fedora-24-minimal or fedora-25-minimal template causes a lot of problems. If I had done it like that from the beginning, I probably could have followed Unman's instructions without problem. (Thanks, by the way!) -- ubestemt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170428154944.xt4ggq6xhhd3wxe3%40bestemt.no. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/19/2017 07:49 PM, tnt_bom_...@keemail.me wrote: > its difficult to remove the packages inside debian-qubes , because > most of the time u will end up on crashing/destroying it. I just played a little and removed a lot of packages from the current debian-8 template: amd64-microcode aspell aspell-en bsd-mailx colord colord-data cryptsetup cryptsetup-bin cups cups-browsed cups-client cups-common cups-core-drivers cups-daemon cups-filters cups-filters-core-drivers cups-pk-helper cups-ppdc cups-server-common dmidecode dnsmasq-base dns-root-data docutils-doc doc-debian dosfstools eject emacs emacs24 emacs24-bin-common emacs24-common enchant evince evince-common exfat-fuse exfat-utils exim4 exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light firefox-esr firmware-linux firmware-linux-free firmware-linux-nonfree ftp gdisk gedit gedit-common gnome-sushi gnome-user-guide gstreamer1.0-libav:amd64 gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:amd64 gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:amd64 gstreamer1.0-x:amd64 hwdata i965-va-driver:amd64 icedove iceowl-extension iceweasel info intel-microcode iucode-tool keepassx man-db mutt nano nautilus nfs-common printer-driver-gutenprint procmail qubes-img-converter qubes-pdf-converter qubes-thunderbird reportbug rpcbind rsyslog sane-utils system-config-printer system-config-printer-udev tasksel tasksel-data upower usbmuxd usbutils usb-modeswitch usb-modeswitch-data va-driver-all:amd64 vdpau-va-driver:amd64 w3m wamerican yelp yelp-xsl After removed (sudo dpkg --purge ) those let's run: sudo apt-get autoremove The result still contains more than the must have packages, but I not purged the ones I actually need: NetVM and FirewallVM related packages, vim, gnome-terminal and standard networking tools Of course it will not save disk space unless you free it using: qvm-trim-template (from dom0) Now my debian template is much closer to fedora-minimal - while still booting and working :) - -- Zrubi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJY/058AAoJEH7adOMCkunmlTkP/jpnhbBHDzAIqG1bCv+wMSqP /GmuiDv5sMqe4tUOu1ONv+ccJ+Z2y5OB1WkyGcqNkw703hws9KRE8zcdAeM4kCsX JpUeFKi/5pfkeMuWbRLPbnwyr0Vnycq3IkeXWuMse87LfkEc9poGuXBegMXloZlL ikzvZM7dOKzvPtllBY7EVkRBWPy+p3WIdhPhEuGpKMZfI4oZFAqHlGpP6uTXNAJT 16oJYU4gfxlKmx2Rziv3MuGK1HAToETgu1sIVuVmjJVRH7Hk47PrWnefAem6A1T+ ApEKY/0NIp6kAvnVHvIf8FUTdZbatixBZIA/CSYXKdiTT3IGcEspQ/t+q5y8EQI/ bFEcA9I6ECfxyBe8v5oFsqQDt35FQg4rmQ7azpmi7pb+ploBtbS7s+zGxbmvEBTz TR9MhPOC8thD+qjXi0NjONu6/VgSiTZDAXAvxXSRhO6sGsychuuXwoe8Ev79lmVc I1/d+TOyHEBdaJIFlfJwn8PmQvcN+C83JvA/P9xAXQJIQIqChjAAmL8tjvBLxobf G7y70nnfTQtxePIUQY0rN+CR7jmKilF1GM2co4k6/Wv4mVT+EumajMKt3DDiSeMQ KVdMf66ZI8I17mk9nZzwzQkjnb4DT+Tc9aZu/gD0SPRtrgewWIs9Xprz+3qOjDEW xV0r1/LxYl7o+t0XkSKA =0Z77 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/53ace73b-85ef-3b8b-ba2a-343fb017acff%40zrubi.hu. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
I was able to build a jessie minimal template but not a stretch one. So I decided to clone it and upgrade the template. I ran into a lot of issues with that. The way I was able to finally do it was to enable the qubes-testing repo for stretch before the updgrade and doing the upgrade from the console (sudo xl console [vm_name]). Now I have a working jessie and stretch template. I have to do it again on my other qubes computer. I will try to post a step-by-step how to!!! Dominique The build for stretch di On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 3:13:27 AM UTC-4, Vít Šesták wrote: > Well, you have simplified it too much. It seems to be basically equivalent to > curl http://… | sudo bash. (AFAIK, there is no authentication when using > git:// URL.) The signature verification mentioned on the page is there for a > reason – you should not run the code without knowing it has not been altered. > > It would be even better to use either https;// URL or SSH URL, as they > authenticate the transport. This can somehow mitigate attacker providing you > an old version with known vulnerabilities. > > Regards, > Vít Šesták 'v6ak' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e0dec225-960e-44dd-b98b-142229b06cc4%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
Well, you have simplified it too much. It seems to be basically equivalent to curl http://… | sudo bash. (AFAIK, there is no authentication when using git:// URL.) The signature verification mentioned on the page is there for a reason – you should not run the code without knowing it has not been altered. It would be even better to use either https;// URL or SSH URL, as they authenticate the transport. This can somehow mitigate attacker providing you an old version with known vulnerabilities. Regards, Vít Šesták 'v6ak' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/aac7603f-3e59-41ce-a168-83aa354a42e1%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
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Re: [qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 12:24:52PM -0600, Reg Tiangha wrote: > On 2017-03-19 11:38 AM, Dominique St-Pierre Boucher wrote: > > On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-4, tnt_b...@keemail.me wrote: > >> hi there, > >> > >> fedora minimal is great idea to have inside Qubes, i wonder why we dont > >> have debian minimal as well inside Qubes ? > >> > >> (debian-qubes has many packages which r not necessary to be installed e.g > >> printing packages. tho, it will be nice to install the needed packages > >> from the user pleasures not by default.) > >> > >> Thanks > > > > This would be wonderful. I tried to create one by removing some package but > > not a big impact on space or memory usage. > > > > I will follow this thread with interest! > > > > Dominique > > > > You can create one yourself using qubes-builder ( > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-builder ); I just did it myself a > couple of days ago, and it's great! I tried to do do a stretch-minimal > but it failed somewhere in the middle, but jessie-minimal worked fine > and I've switched all of my service vms to use that with coldkernel. > I'll probably get to creating a Thunderbird-only VM using that template > soon. > > I've noticed that there have been a lot of requests for debian-minimal > templates come through; it'd be nice if one could be made and put up in > the Qubes repository (even if it was templates-community) for > convenience sake. I hadn't realised that there wasn't one in the repository. We'll fix this. In the meantime it is fairly simple to build one yourself, as Reg says. The instructions are at www.qubes-os.org/doc/qubes-builder/ If they look intimidating, dont be put off for the build. In the new template install the packages you need: sudo dnf install gpg git createrepo rpm-build make wget rpmdevtools python-sh dialog rpm-sign dpkg-dev debootstrap PyYAML: Close down the template. Create a qube based on that template: doesn't hurt to give it some extra space in private storage Start the new qube. Clone the build repository: 'git clone git://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-builder.git qubes-builder ' 'cd qubes-builder ' Run the setup file: './setup' Follow the defaults for the first three screens, and then select the builder-debian plugin on the 4th, Builder plugin screen. Select YES to download sources On the template selection page deselect fc23 and select jessie+minimal. Then build the template: 'make qubes-vm' 'make template' You will have to copy the template in to dom0 but there is a handy script at the end of the build log to help you do this. The build logs are in the build-logs directory. You can also turn on verbose output by putting VERBOSE=1 in builder.conf file instead of VERBOSE=0. If you like to mess around with the build, the relevant bits are in qubes-src/builder-debian/template_debian. That's where the package lists are. If you're going to do this more than once I would strongly recommend use of a caching proxy - it will save you a huge amount of time and bandwidth. unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170319213147.GA15867%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
On 2017-03-19 2:26 PM, Reg Tiangha wrote: > On 2017-03-19 2:08 PM, cooloutac wrote: >> On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 2:25:17 PM UTC-4, Reg Tiangha wrote: >>> On 2017-03-19 11:38 AM, Dominique St-Pierre Boucher wrote: On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-4, tnt_b...@keemail.me wrote: > hi there, > > fedora minimal is great idea to have inside Qubes, i wonder why we dont > have debian minimal as well inside Qubes ? > > (debian-qubes has many packages which r not necessary to be installed e.g > printing packages. tho, it will be nice to install the needed packages > from the user pleasures not by default.) > > Thanks This would be wonderful. I tried to create one by removing some package but not a big impact on space or memory usage. I will follow this thread with interest! Dominique >>> >>> You can create one yourself using qubes-builder ( >>> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-builder ); I just did it myself a >>> couple of days ago, and it's great! I tried to do do a stretch-minimal >>> but it failed somewhere in the middle, but jessie-minimal worked fine >>> and I've switched all of my service vms to use that with coldkernel. >>> I'll probably get to creating a Thunderbird-only VM using that template >>> soon. >>> >>> I've noticed that there have been a lot of requests for debian-minimal >>> templates come through; it'd be nice if one could be made and put up in >>> the Qubes repository (even if it was templates-community) for >>> convenience sake. >> >> welp my brain just melted trying to figure this out. Searching in >> qubes-users I just see unman telling people its easy, but can you link me to >> the actual instructions for building the template? apparently I;m too dumb >> to find them. I'm at that github page wanting to shoot myself right now. >> maybe i need git instructions too lol. >> >> I've always compiled gresc on baremetal debian maybe I should just skip to >> coldkernel attempt? But I;ve already failed trying to compile a basic >> kernel in Qubes so I think I'm probably just gonna pass man. :( >> > > You can follow the Archlinux instructions, but when you get to the step > where you have to select your template, choose jessie-minimal rather > than Archlinux: > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/building-archlinux-template/ > > The coldkernel instructions ( http://github.com/coldhakca/coldkernel ) > for Debian templates just work; you should have no problems if you > follow them exactly. You can take the linux-image and linux-header deb > files that it makes and copy/install them on other Debian templates as well.. > > Compiling kernels for Qubes using qubes-linux-kernel ( > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-linux-kernel ) can be tricky. Upgrading > the 4.4 version of the kernel works well; I just did it a few days ago > to upgrade the dom0 kernel 4.4.54. All you had to do was switch into the > 4.4 branch (git checkout stable-4.4) and then change the text in the > version file to download the latest version (today, it's 4.4.55) and > then run make rpms (one of the patches will fail because it's already > been integrated into the kernel code, so you can just delete the one > that fails in series.conf; I don't remember which one off the top of my > head). If you want to do a newer kernel (ex. 4.9 or 4.10), it's a bit > more involved. I just compiled 4.10.4 for dom0 and it's running fine, > but you have modify the xen and rpmify patches in their various patch > directories to work with the new kernel. It's not hard; they all still > work, it's just that their locations are different so the patches need > to be updated and that's the part that takes a bit of work. I don't have > time to write a how-to for that though, but for those who are wondering, > it *is* possible to run kernels newer than 4.4 using the Qubes build > scripts. > Oh, one more thing: If you were thinking about trying to compile a kernel newer than 4.4, use @marmarek's repository at https://github.com/marmarek/qubes-linux-kernel and run git checkout devel-4.8 and work off of that. In fact, you can probably just sub in 4.8.17 in the version file to get the last 4.8 kernel and it should just work (I can't remember if I had to make any other modifications on top of that; I don't think I did). It should be easier to migrate up to 4.9 or 4.10 off of that repository, rather than the master Qubes repository that only goes as high as 4.4. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/oampsr%24jjr%241%40blaine.gmane.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
On 2017-03-19 2:08 PM, cooloutac wrote: > On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 2:25:17 PM UTC-4, Reg Tiangha wrote: >> On 2017-03-19 11:38 AM, Dominique St-Pierre Boucher wrote: >>> On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-4, tnt_b...@keemail.me wrote: hi there, fedora minimal is great idea to have inside Qubes, i wonder why we dont have debian minimal as well inside Qubes ? (debian-qubes has many packages which r not necessary to be installed e.g printing packages. tho, it will be nice to install the needed packages from the user pleasures not by default.) Thanks >>> >>> This would be wonderful. I tried to create one by removing some package but >>> not a big impact on space or memory usage. >>> >>> I will follow this thread with interest! >>> >>> Dominique >>> >> >> You can create one yourself using qubes-builder ( >> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-builder ); I just did it myself a >> couple of days ago, and it's great! I tried to do do a stretch-minimal >> but it failed somewhere in the middle, but jessie-minimal worked fine >> and I've switched all of my service vms to use that with coldkernel. >> I'll probably get to creating a Thunderbird-only VM using that template >> soon. >> >> I've noticed that there have been a lot of requests for debian-minimal >> templates come through; it'd be nice if one could be made and put up in >> the Qubes repository (even if it was templates-community) for >> convenience sake. > > welp my brain just melted trying to figure this out. Searching in > qubes-users I just see unman telling people its easy, but can you link me to > the actual instructions for building the template? apparently I;m too dumb to > find them. I'm at that github page wanting to shoot myself right now. maybe > i need git instructions too lol. > > I've always compiled gresc on baremetal debian maybe I should just skip to > coldkernel attempt? But I;ve already failed trying to compile a basic kernel > in Qubes so I think I'm probably just gonna pass man. :( > You can follow the Archlinux instructions, but when you get to the step where you have to select your template, choose jessie-minimal rather than Archlinux: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/building-archlinux-template/ The coldkernel instructions ( http://github.com/coldhakca/coldkernel ) for Debian templates just work; you should have no problems if you follow them exactly. You can take the linux-image and linux-header deb files that it makes and copy/install them on other Debian templates as well. Compiling kernels for Qubes using qubes-linux-kernel ( https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-linux-kernel ) can be tricky. Upgrading the 4.4 version of the kernel works well; I just did it a few days ago to upgrade the dom0 kernel 4.4.54. All you had to do was switch into the 4.4 branch (git checkout stable-4.4) and then change the text in the version file to download the latest version (today, it's 4.4.55) and then run make rpms (one of the patches will fail because it's already been integrated into the kernel code, so you can just delete the one that fails in series.conf; I don't remember which one off the top of my head). If you want to do a newer kernel (ex. 4.9 or 4.10), it's a bit more involved. I just compiled 4.10.4 for dom0 and it's running fine, but you have modify the xen and rpmify patches in their various patch directories to work with the new kernel. It's not hard; they all still work, it's just that their locations are different so the patches need to be updated and that's the part that takes a bit of work. I don't have time to write a how-to for that though, but for those who are wondering, it *is* possible to run kernels newer than 4.4 using the Qubes build scripts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/oamphi%242u2%241%40blaine.gmane.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 2:25:17 PM UTC-4, Reg Tiangha wrote: > On 2017-03-19 11:38 AM, Dominique St-Pierre Boucher wrote: > > On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-4, tnt_b...@keemail.me wrote: > >> hi there, > >> > >> fedora minimal is great idea to have inside Qubes, i wonder why we dont > >> have debian minimal as well inside Qubes ? > >> > >> (debian-qubes has many packages which r not necessary to be installed e.g > >> printing packages. tho, it will be nice to install the needed packages > >> from the user pleasures not by default.) > >> > >> Thanks > > > > This would be wonderful. I tried to create one by removing some package but > > not a big impact on space or memory usage. > > > > I will follow this thread with interest! > > > > Dominique > > > > You can create one yourself using qubes-builder ( > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-builder ); I just did it myself a > couple of days ago, and it's great! I tried to do do a stretch-minimal > but it failed somewhere in the middle, but jessie-minimal worked fine > and I've switched all of my service vms to use that with coldkernel. > I'll probably get to creating a Thunderbird-only VM using that template > soon. > > I've noticed that there have been a lot of requests for debian-minimal > templates come through; it'd be nice if one could be made and put up in > the Qubes repository (even if it was templates-community) for > convenience sake. welp my brain just melted trying to figure this out. Searching in qubes-users I just see unman telling people its easy, but can you link me to the actual instructions for building the template? apparently I;m too dumb to find them. I'm at that github page wanting to shoot myself right now. maybe i need git instructions too lol. I've always compiled gresc on baremetal debian maybe I should just skip to coldkernel attempt? But I;ve already failed trying to compile a basic kernel in Qubes so I think I'm probably just gonna pass man. :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8996d3b8-0182-449c-b16b-9c2d05836b27%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
> On 2017-03-19 11:38 AM, Dominique St-Pierre Boucher wrote: >> On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-4, tnt_b...@keemail.me wrote: >>> hi there, >>> >>> fedora minimal is great idea to have inside Qubes, i wonder why we dont >>> have debian minimal as well inside Qubes ? >>> > You can create one yourself using qubes-builder ( > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-builder ); I just did it myself a > couple of days ago, and it's great! I tried to do do a stretch-minimal > but it failed somewhere in the middle, but jessie-minimal worked fine > and I've switched all of my service vms to use that with coldkernel. > I'll probably get to creating a Thunderbird-only VM using that template > soon. Since I am one of the "very interested people", I followed your link. AT first glance I do not know how to use that to get a debian-minimal. Would you have time to explain the procedure a bit more ? That would be really nice & helpful. You could even add a paragraph to the qubes-pages to immortalize your effort :) Thank you, Bernhard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/37747fbb-7759-6836-672d-6346f7643dcd%40web.de. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 2:25:17 PM UTC-4, Reg Tiangha wrote: > On 2017-03-19 11:38 AM, Dominique St-Pierre Boucher wrote: > > On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-4, tnt_b...@keemail.me wrote: > >> hi there, > >> > >> fedora minimal is great idea to have inside Qubes, i wonder why we dont > >> have debian minimal as well inside Qubes ? > >> > >> (debian-qubes has many packages which r not necessary to be installed e.g > >> printing packages. tho, it will be nice to install the needed packages > >> from the user pleasures not by default.) > >> > >> Thanks > > > > This would be wonderful. I tried to create one by removing some package but > > not a big impact on space or memory usage. > > > > I will follow this thread with interest! > > > > Dominique > > > > You can create one yourself using qubes-builder ( > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-builder ); I just did it myself a > couple of days ago, and it's great! I tried to do do a stretch-minimal > but it failed somewhere in the middle, but jessie-minimal worked fine > and I've switched all of my service vms to use that with coldkernel. > I'll probably get to creating a Thunderbird-only VM using that template > soon. > > I've noticed that there have been a lot of requests for debian-minimal > templates come through; it'd be nice if one could be made and put up in > the Qubes repository (even if it was templates-community) for > convenience sake. I still have to try this out ty. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f440bb7e-d6cc-4e19-99ec-cc281aaea1ed%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
its difficult to remove the packages inside debian-qubes , because most of the time u will end up on crashing/destroying it. but i wonder if the developer of debian-qubes can make a minimal one , which is way better than the current one. > On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-4, > tnt_b...@keemail.me> wrote: >> hi there, >> >> fedora minimal is great idea to have inside Qubes, i wonder why we dont have >> debian minimal as well inside Qubes ? >> >> (debian-qubes has many packages which r not necessary to be installed e.g >> printing packages. tho, it will be nice to install the needed packages from >> the user pleasures not by default.) >> >> Thanks > > This would be wonderful. I tried to create one by removing some package but > not a big impact on space or memory usage. > > I will follow this thread with interest! > > Dominique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/KfbtmHt--3-0%40keemail.me. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
On 2017-03-19 11:38 AM, Dominique St-Pierre Boucher wrote: > On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-4, tnt_b...@keemail.me wrote: >> hi there, >> >> fedora minimal is great idea to have inside Qubes, i wonder why we dont have >> debian minimal as well inside Qubes ? >> >> (debian-qubes has many packages which r not necessary to be installed e.g >> printing packages. tho, it will be nice to install the needed packages from >> the user pleasures not by default.) >> >> Thanks > > This would be wonderful. I tried to create one by removing some package but > not a big impact on space or memory usage. > > I will follow this thread with interest! > > Dominique > You can create one yourself using qubes-builder ( https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-builder ); I just did it myself a couple of days ago, and it's great! I tried to do do a stretch-minimal but it failed somewhere in the middle, but jessie-minimal worked fine and I've switched all of my service vms to use that with coldkernel. I'll probably get to creating a Thunderbird-only VM using that template soon. I've noticed that there have been a lot of requests for debian-minimal templates come through; it'd be nice if one could be made and put up in the Qubes repository (even if it was templates-community) for convenience sake. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/oamidf%249pf%241%40blaine.gmane.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: can we have debian-minimal?
On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-4, tnt_b...@keemail.me wrote: > hi there, > > fedora minimal is great idea to have inside Qubes, i wonder why we dont have > debian minimal as well inside Qubes ? > > (debian-qubes has many packages which r not necessary to be installed e.g > printing packages. tho, it will be nice to install the needed packages from > the user pleasures not by default.) > > Thanks This would be wonderful. I tried to create one by removing some package but not a big impact on space or memory usage. I will follow this thread with interest! Dominique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/6c2165f0-065c-4dfe-b1b9-2acba0a339fa%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
