Re: [RBW] Re: 62cm Orange Quickbeam FS or FT

2010-04-03 Thread cyclotourist
The Bay Area is 1/2 way to Oregon! On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I'm actually tempted by this, which is insane. Philip On Apr 2, 4:12 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, folks. Bummer about the SimpleOne not coming out

Re: [RBW] Re: Cloth Tape, Twine, Shellac and Vanity

2010-04-03 Thread Rene Sterental
I'm going to try the Kelly Green tape with amber shellack on my Bombadil... will post pictures when I'm done. I'm trying to match the B17 green saddle. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: do Rivendell memberships apply to frame purchases?

2010-04-03 Thread Rene Sterental
Actually, in my case, when I purchased each of my 2 frames (AHH Bombadil) a one year membership was included. That made me a member for 2 years in a row, and I was able to get a very nice rebate in January (bought my frames in September and November) that I used to get my grey medium Saddlebag

[RBW] Re: Cloth Tape, Twine, Shellac and Vanity

2010-04-03 Thread Earl Grey
I'd say that the Tressostar signal orange tape is a better match for a fairly dark honey Brooks than the yellow (judging from velomann's photo; haven't used the yellow myself). It's hard to believe the tape was orange after 2-3 coats: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4424231067/ Gernot

[RBW] Re: 62cm Orange Quickbeam FS or FT

2010-04-03 Thread Esteban
I'd be happy to send it to your asylum up north, Philip! On Apr 2, 11:00 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: The Bay Area is 1/2 way to Oregon! On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I'm actually tempted by this, which is

[RBW] Re: front bag with bar-end shifters?

2010-04-03 Thread MichaelH
I have no problem with this. I run an Acorn bag on a mark's rack and simply route the cable under the front rack. It's so simple I don't know why some people say otherwise. Now, with Shimano brifters, bigger problem. Michael On Mar 30, 11:21 pm, LF fie...@gmail.com wrote: I'm upgrading a

[RBW] Re: 64cm Orange Quickbeam FS or FT

2010-04-03 Thread newenglandbike
Changing subject back to '64cm Orange QB for sale', because it is as 64cm and buyers/traders'll probably wanna know. On Apr 3, 7:12 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be happy to send it to your asylum up north, Philip! On Apr 2, 11:00 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: 64cm Orange Quickbeam FS or FT

2010-04-03 Thread newenglandbike
Changing subject back to '64cm Orange QB for sale', because it's a 64cm and buyers/traders'll probably wanna know. On Apr 2, 4:12 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, folks. Bummer about the SimpleOne not coming out till next year... but... I have an orange 62cm Quickbeam

[RBW] Re: front bag with bar-end shifters?

2010-04-03 Thread Bob H.
I've done exactly what you describe using pretty much the same bag and a VO decaleur. My cables are routed all the way under the tape to the stem along with the brake cables. On my 64cm frame, we had to use a tandem cable for the rear derailleur as a result of the extra length. It is clean, and if

[RBW] Lake Pepin tour

2010-04-03 Thread Kathryn Hall
That route looks like a good excuse for a ride out from Madison. Has anyone done that camping? -- KCHDC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Its a 64! QB for sale!

2010-04-03 Thread happyriding
On Apr 2, 9:56 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: There's an 18t on the other side.  Ignore the man in the floppy hat cutting dangerously on the inside: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4469484509/ Whatever that is, I am unable to download it, so I suspect it's a video. Let me

[RBW] Re: Its a 64! QB for sale!

2010-04-03 Thread happyriding
On Apr 2, 10:46 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Joe... I'll be in the Beast Bay.  Martinez.  We're driving up tomorrow.  I might stop by Riv HQ in the afternoon. Take a camera and get some more spy shots of the Hunqapillar. Get close ups of all the major lug areas: the seat tube

[RBW] Re: Its a 64! QB for sale!

2010-04-03 Thread newenglandbike
You don't need to take the wheel off to switch gears up front, just loosen the QR. Can do the same for the rear if you are running a dual-cog freewheel such as the White Industries DOS ENO. On Apr 3, 9:46 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 2, 9:56 pm, Esteban

[RBW] Re: Its a 64! QB for sale!

2010-04-03 Thread happyriding
On Apr 3, 8:40 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: You don't need to take the wheel off to switch gears up front, just loosen the QR.   Ok. That is what estaban said, too. I misunderstood. Can do the same for the rear if you are running a dual-cog freewheel such as the White

[RBW] Re: Chrome Shotwell Knickers-Oregon Cyclewear

2010-04-03 Thread Steve Ardrey
I really like the knickers from Oregon Cycle wear.   .  The fabric is stretchy.  The price is right.   I manage to get a pair that were grey.  I hope they bring back the gray color.  They are not true to size. http://www.oregoncyclewear.com/messenger_knickers.html -- sacyclepath

Re: [RBW] Re: Its a 64! QB for sale!

2010-04-03 Thread Ray Shine
Here's how the stock QB works. To change up or down, do this: Dismount, and stand to the left side. With right hand, loosen the quick release enough to allow the axle to slide forward or backward. Do not remove wheel. To change to a low gear, place your right foot behind the rear wheel and

[RBW] Re: Its a 64! QB for sale!

2010-04-03 Thread Esteban
Thanks! What Ray said. On Apr 3, 9:31 am, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Here's how the stock QB works.  To change up or down, do this: Dismount, and stand to the left side. With right hand, loosen the quick release enough to allow the axle to slide forward or backward.  Do not

[RBW] hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread newenglandbike
Just noticed this latest blog post on the riv site: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/223 Looks like the second TT on the hunqapillar may change to a more diagonal orientation. I'm not sure exactly what that means, but if it's what I think it means, it will be pretty cool. -- You

[RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread Matt Critchlow
I did see this. Not sure what to make of it. I actually like the way it looks now, but it does sound really interesting. What do you think he means? Diagonal in which direction? On Apr 3, 9:48 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Just noticed this latest blog post on the riv site:

Re: [RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread cyclotourist
I like the parallel tubes. Kinda' looks kewl. I could see the necessity (possibly) of diagonal bracing on the real large sizes, but seems like parallel double TTs are fine for the 58 size (which happens to be what I would need). On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Matt Critchlow

[RBW] Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread MichaelH
I have been idly thinking about looking for a used Atlantis frame to build up. When I look at the Riv web site I know longer have a link to the pdf geometry chart, and the Atlantis page only lists sizes up to 61. Didn't they once make a 64, and if so, when did they stop? Michael -- You

[RBW] Re: Cloth Tape, Twine, Shellac and Vanity

2010-04-03 Thread Buck
Here's my bike with yellow. The first day pics are toward the end and the re-shellacking pics up front. http://www.flickr.com/photos/26804...@n02/ On Apr 3, 5:19 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say that the Tressostar signal orange tape is a better match for a fairly dark honey

[RBW] Henry Coe

2010-04-03 Thread Adam
Greetings All, I am planning a mini tour, mainly off road, of Henry Coe and wonder if any bay area riders have some experience. The state park site warns that it is some of the most difficult mtb riding available, but also claims to be one the largest state park in Northern California and just

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread Jack
I have an Atlantis brochure from about 2003 and it lists a 64cm frame, but I don't know when they stopped offering them. A few months ago I talked to guy on a 68cm Atlantis. That was a huge bike! Used frames come up from time to time, that's how I got mine. It's a 56cm, probably a more common

[RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread William
Interesting the Harry Hugel is a commenter on the Alex Singer example. My hypothetical 54 will not be affected, either way On Apr 3, 10:20 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Well I guess there are two ways it could go:   raising the intersection with the seat-tube or lowering

[RBW] Re: Chrome Shotwell Knickers-Oregon Cyclewear

2010-04-03 Thread Phil Bickford
On Apr 3, 8:03 am, Steve Ardrey sacyclep...@yahoo.com wrote: They are not true to size. Steve - How are they sized ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: Its a 64! QB for sale!

2010-04-03 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/3/10 8:31 AM, Ray Shine at r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: If you have a dual freewheel on the drive side, as many of us do, use the same procedure above to place the chain in the combo that you want. Some of us also have a single larger free on the flip side. To get there, use the above

Re: [RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread cyclotourist
It's a small-small-small-small world. It's a small world... Oh, sorry. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:41 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting the Harry Hugel is a commenter on the Alex Singer example. My hypothetical 54 will not be affected, either way On Apr 3, 10:20 am,

[RBW] QB Gear Change techniques: was Re: Its a 64! QB for sale!

2010-04-03 Thread Ray Shine
SHOW OFF ! From: CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 12:55:49 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Its a 64! QB for sale! The _advanced_ trick when flipping is to not touch the chain - works for me about 3

Re: [RBW] Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 1:11 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I have been idly thinking about looking for a used Atlantis frame to build up.  When I look at the Riv web site I know longer have a link to the pdf geometry chart, and the Atlantis page only lists sizes up to 61.  Didn't they

RE: [RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread Rene Valbuena
I think it will be diagonal like the top tube of a mixte. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Critchlow Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:53 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd

[RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread Garth
Keep the tubes parallel as pictured for goodness sake. Gotta have water bottle clearance. Putting a pump between non parallel tubes would look off. Way off. A Hunqapillar with a girlie tube would surely contradict the name. LOL ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread newenglandbike
Of course, this blog post could also be an April Fool's joke :) On Apr 3, 4:06 pm, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Keep the tubes parallel as pictured for goodness sake. Gotta have water bottle clearance. Putting a pump between non parallel tubes would look off. Way off. A

[RBW] Re: Henry Coe

2010-04-03 Thread Michael Glaser
I rode a 20 mile loop in Henry Coe a number of years ago. It's not down the side of a ski slope technical, but it will test your reflexes as well as your lungs. Knobbies are a must, IMHO. Beatiful park, too. They had a fire a couple of years ago, but I suspect that the park is healing nicely

Re: [RBW] Henry Coe

2010-04-03 Thread Anne Paulson
Thinking about accessing it from either San Jose amtrak or more excitingly from Pleasanton Bart on 88 miles of country rode including 30 on fire road. San Jose Amtrak to Henry Coe is straightforward. How were you thinking about riding from Pleasanton, if you did it that way? Expect the

RE: [RBW] Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread John Stoesser
About 2-4 weeks ago there was a 68cm Atlantis offered on ebay. The owner wanted $2600 as a buy-it-now. I called RBW and spoke to them about a 68cm about 2 years ago. They had one in stock. I didn't pull the trigger. Kept lurking around here hoping one would pop up. Nothing happened or I missed it.

[RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread Mike
The perfect April Fool's joke would have been to say they were adding a third TT and that the next batch of Bombadils would be full suspension. On Apr 3, 1:30 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, this blog post could also be an April Fool's joke   :) -- You received

[RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread newenglandbike
LOL. and Nitto is coming out with a bladed seatpost and an aero attachment for the bullmoose. On Apr 3, 8:06 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: The perfect April Fool's joke would have been to say they were adding a third TT and that the next batch of Bombadils would be full suspension.

[RBW] Re: Ventura Ride Tomorow

2010-04-03 Thread rperks
Turned out to be an incredible day. Clear skies, 60 deg. weather, and flowers in full bloom. Great group of 8 people, I now have real humans to go with the pictures and typing, and an amazingly diverse group. Noel, Andy, Seth, Mike, Doug (and your brother Steve), and Ron of bagmaker fame all

[RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread happyriding
On Apr 3, 10:48 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Just noticed this latest blog post on the riv site: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/223 Looks like the second TT on the hunqapillar may change to a more diagonal orientation.   I'm not sure exactly what that means, but

[RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread newenglandbike
LOL. and Nitto is coming out with a bladed seatpost and an aero attachment for the bullmooses On Apr 3, 8:06 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: The perfect April Fool's joke would have been to say they were adding a third TT and that the next batch of Bombadils would be full suspension. On

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread happyriding
On Apr 3, 11:11 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I have been idly thinking about looking for a used Atlantis frame to build up.  When I look at the Riv web site I know longer have a link to the pdf geometry chart, and the Atlantis page only lists sizes up to 61.  Didn't they once make a

[RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread EricP
Well, if not a joke, not sure what to think. The idea makes some sense. Especially if it starts to approximate the twin lateral design of the original Breezers. But, if it loses area for a bottle cage then nah. And not sure how it would look on the 58. Which I did pre- order. Already figured

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread happyriding
On Apr 3, 3:57 pm, John Stoesser jstoes...@comcast.net wrote: About 2-4 weeks ago there was a 68cm Atlantis offered on ebay. The owner wanted $2600 as a buy-it-now. I called RBW and spoke to them about a 68cm about 2 years ago. They had one in stock. I didn't pull the trigger. Kept lurking

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread happyriding
On Apr 3, 6:52 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:  I have the .pdf file though.  I'll send it to you. Or you can see most of the numbers on Peter White's website: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/atlantis.asp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread newenglandbike
That's not really true and here's why: Custom Waterfords are a great deal, but the closest thing to an Atlantis that Waterford offers as a base to customize is the 'Adventure Cycle',and it costs $1800 for the frame, and $350 for the fork.That doesn't include mid-stay rack braze-ons and

Re: [RBW] Re: Ventura Ride Tomorow

2010-04-03 Thread cyclotourist
Stupendous! I was this close to just doing it, but know my knee gives out @ 30 miles... :-( What fantastic weather and route for you! On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:21 PM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Turned out to be an incredible day. Clear skies, 60 deg. weather, and flowers in full bloom.

Re: [RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread cyclotourist
I question how many Bombadil frames are cracking in half due to lack of stiffness. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:03 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Well, if not a joke, not sure what to think. The idea makes some sense. Especially if it starts to approximate the twin lateral design of the

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread rperks
That is precisely why I jumped on the Roadeo, if the geometry and design comes close to your wishes, the RIvendells coming out of Waterford are relatively a deal. Yes you can get a better price from some of the smaller builders, but if you can find the bike you are looking for through Riv, then I

[RBW] Re: Henry Coe

2010-04-03 Thread manueljohnacosta
Funny that you were thinking about doing a mini tour through Henry Coe. I just recently got back from a overnight trip there, I agree with Anne it's good place to have knobbies, there are some hard climbs but the decents are amazing. Bring a water filter as there is no clean water source there.

[RBW] Re: Lake Pepin tour

2010-04-03 Thread JoelMatthews
Kathryn: I have not gone as far north as Lake Pepin, but have ridden out of Madison (actually started in Genoa City but went through Madison) through to LaCrosse. Wisconsin has a first rate state park system more than amply supplemented with private camp grounds. While not so grand as you have

Re: [RBW] Re: QB Gear Change techniques: was Re: Its a 64! QB for sale!

2010-04-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The rear doesn't look bad at all. But I do prefer the horizontals on my two fixies for fender and wheel cooperation, as well as for other reasons. On my Redline Monocog 29er -- the builder said the modifications and powder coat -- Forest Green! -- may be ready next week! -- which has track ends,

[RBW] Re: Henry Coe

2010-04-03 Thread JoelMatthews
Thanks for the link. That is rugged and pretty country. On Apr 3, 8:36 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Funny that you were thinking about doing a mini tour through Henry Coe. I just recently got back from a overnight trip there, I agree with Anne it's good place to

[RBW] Re: Ventura Ride Tomorow

2010-04-03 Thread Michael_S
Yes, thanks Rob for a great route and interesting local data. It was my 1st ride with part of the group and a lot of fun. I enjoyed meeting everyone and look forward to the next rides. I did shoot a few photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/sets/72157623764039128/ On Apr 3,

Re: [RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/3/10 5:22 PM, cyclotourist at cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I question how many Bombadil frames are cracking in half due to lack of stiffness. Well arguably, stiffness is what would cause things to crack in half - an inability to transfer force so it gets concentrated to one specific

[RBW] Re: Chrome Shotwell Knickers-Oregon Cyclewear

2010-04-03 Thread Michael_S
I am a 35-36 waist and the XL size chart says 35 1/2 ... mine fit a touch big in waist but a belt makes it perfect. I am very pleased overall with the fit and construction, once I cut out the liner. I just use a Pearl Izumi liner or a pair of lycra shorts under. ~Mike~ On Apr 3, 11:48 am, Phil

Re: [RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread cyclotourist
I'm all for a second top tube... just one parallel to the other one. Having laterals just seems like waay overkill. I guess for heavy-leaded expedition touring to Siberia it makes sense, but for the other 99.5% of the time... On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:55 PM, CycloFiend

[RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread happyriding
On Apr 3, 8:55 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: I would _suspect_ that adding a second top tube lets you use lighter top tubes so they can flex and disperse stress, while at the same time you are stiffening the structure without adding stresses to the joints. It's a stout

RE: [RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread John Stoesser
How is that Waterford working out for you? Have you done any loaded touring on it? I literally just picked it up today. I took it for a short ride prior to heading out to play at church this pm. So far I'm blown awayspeechless. I thought about going that route. The pipes used for the

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread happyriding
On Apr 3, 7:12 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: That's not really true and here's why: Custom Waterfords are a great deal, but the closest thing to an Atlantis that Waterford offers as a base to customize is the 'Adventure Cycle',    and it costs $1800 for the frame, and $350

[RBW] Re: Ventura Ride Tomorow

2010-04-03 Thread Esteban
Wonderful! Some of the best people on earth in those photos. SDCBS ride details shortly... Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Apr 3, 6:52 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Yes, thanks Rob for a great route and interesting local data. It was my 1st ride with part of the group and a lot

[RBW] Re: QB Gear Change techniques: was Re: Its a 64! QB for sale!

2010-04-03 Thread Ron MH
Yeah, but I bet you don't have a rear brake with those horizontal ends (not, that I ever use the brakes, let alone the rear one on my fixed 'beam). ;-) Ron On Apr 3, 6:50 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The rear doesn't look bad at all. But I do prefer the horizontals on my two

[RBW] Re: QB Gear Change techniques: was Re: Its a 64! QB for sale!

2010-04-03 Thread Ron MH
Ummm, yeah. Let's see that on video. On Apr 3, 12:10 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: SHOW OFF ! From: CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 12:55:49 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Its a 64!

[RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread Ron MH
Yeah, the voice of reason! On Apr 3, 6:22 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I question how many Bombadil frames are cracking in half due to lack of stiffness. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:03 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Well, if not a joke, not sure what to think.  The

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/3/10 4:52 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 3, 11:11 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I have been idly thinking about looking for a used Atlantis frame to build up.  When I look at the Riv web site I know longer have a link to the pdf geometry chart, and the

[RBW] San Diego Custom BIcycle Show Rivendell Ride! Apr. 11 Mixie •Velo Cult •Beer

2010-04-03 Thread Esteban
Forget the fact that I don't know what size bikes I ride. Let's ride, drink beer, and see fancy bikes! Highlights - Mixed terrain urban route! Velo Cult! Craft Beers! Big Time Bicycle Show! Last year, the SDCBS was a fantastic event - featuring framebuilders new and old (figuratively and

[RBW] Re: hunqapillar 2nd top-tube angle

2010-04-03 Thread Esteban
While we're on the topic... http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4488993610/ Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Apr 3, 9:36 pm, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, the voice of reason! On Apr 3, 6:22 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I question how many Bombadil frames