[RBW] Dropouts

2010-11-17 Thread David T.
Why do all current Rivendell non-custom bikes except the Quickbeam/ Simpleone have vertical dropouts? It looks like at one time they used horizontal dropouts, based on this: http://www.sandsmachine.com/bp_riv.htm The rationale given for horizontal dropouts at that time seems pretty sound. Plus

Re: [RBW] Dropouts

2010-11-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 04:13 -0800, David T. wrote: The rationale given for horizontal dropouts at that time seems pretty sound. Plus they allow you to set the bike up as a single speed if you want. They can be a right pain, too, making it difficult to remove and replace a wheel with an

Re: [RBW] Re: Latest issue of Momentum

2010-11-17 Thread JimD
Let's not forget - Mudslides! On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:11 AM, William wrote: Tsunamis On Nov 16, 9:02 am, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Killer bees... On Nov 16, 7:23 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: oh... and I forgot to mention the traffic, high

[RBW] Riv Rally East 2011

2010-11-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Regarding Hotels: PLEASE read reviews before choosing your hotel... Some will have mixed reviews; the Penn-Wells is one of them. FWIW I'm reserving my room at the Sherwood, because the reviews are consistently high, and it's located on Main Street in town, less than a half mile from The Green.

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-17 Thread Mike
In 2007 there was a guy who did PBP on a retro-direct bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/27089...@n00/1405449140/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/greggbleakney/2069160082/ It took me watching that video a couple of times to figure out what was going on. Love that song. --mike -- You received

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-17 Thread Mike
Oh yeah, one more link: http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/back-pedalling-onion-man-attempts-paris-brest-paris-11932 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Dropouts

2010-11-17 Thread Jim Cloud
I have used horizontal dropouts on bikes for the last 39 years. I've never experienced problems with the wheel slipping, with the older type of quick releases that I've used (Campagnolo and SunTour). The only disadvantage that I've experienced is removing or installing the wheel when the tire is

[RBW] Re: Latest issue of Momentum

2010-11-17 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
And their precursor: wild fires! On Nov 17, 6:17 am, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Let's not forget - Mudslides! On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:11 AM, William wrote: Tsunamis On Nov 16, 9:02 am, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Killer bees... On Nov 16, 7:23

Re: [RBW] Dropouts

2010-11-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Having converted two Riv vertical dropout frames to fixed gears (one via ENO, one by 1010s by a builder), even I prefer verticals for deraileurs -- so much easier to remove and install the rear wheel. Also, makes fender line adjustment easier. Riv used to emphasize horizontals and verticals were

[RBW] Re: Latest issue of Momentum

2010-11-17 Thread doug peterson
Sounds like a team effort is required, just in the interest of impartial research, mind you. Esteban, can you come up with a route slip? Is 5 miles between research sites enough distance to burn off any lingering effects that influence evaluations? Rivendell content: stable bikes with plump

Re: [RBW] Dropouts

2010-11-17 Thread Dan Abelson
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 6:13 AM, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote: Why do all current Rivendell non-custom bikes except the Quickbeam/ Simpleone have vertical dropouts? It looks like at one time they used horizontal dropouts, based on this: http://www.sandsmachine.com/bp_riv.htm The

[RBW] Re: First Snow Yesterday

2010-11-17 Thread Jeffrey
Yes, I would love to hear what others are wearing on their feet as well. Up here in Nova Scotia we need waterproof, warm and light boots for the snow, slush and slurry. I can't even imagine wearing Keens! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

2010-11-17 Thread doug peterson
Allan: Since you mention having a Nitto M-12 on the bike, that gives you a lot of options. Think about: Do you want to take the bag with you when you park the bike? What volume do you need for your daily load? For instance, I'm a big fan of the Acorn Boxy Rando but it's over- stuffed with

[RBW] Re: First Snow Yesterday

2010-11-17 Thread newenglandbike
Mostly for me it's all about thick wool socks and a pair of work boots. If it's wet/slushy out, Tingley stable boots work really well over your shoes, and of course wool socks again for warmth. http://www.duboisdistributors.com/catalog.asp?prodid=563713showprevnext=1 -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

2010-11-17 Thread Juhani
Thanks for all the answers. Earl Grey: Yes, the shifters is 9-speed (or atleast it has “compatible with 9-speed” text on it). I used Silver Shifters before, but I found it really difficult to shift between the 4 largest cogs on 11-34 9- speed cassette while riding uphill with some cable tension.

[RBW] Re: 3 hour old Nitto Technomic deluxe stem 12cm 25.4

2010-11-17 Thread stormlight
forgot to say make offer On Nov 16, 3:46 pm, storm stormli...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, stopped by Rivendell today to buy a Nitto Technomic deluxe 12cm 25.4 for my wife. Got it home installed it and she did not like the way her bars fit. Anyone interested in buying it from me? I paid 60.09

[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

2010-11-17 Thread William
With your updated report you've ruled out cable and housing friction, and in my opinion have eliminated re-routing the cable/housing as a possible solution. If it were friction related, you'd shift well in the 'pulling the cable directio' and poorly in the 'releasing the cable direction' over all

[RBW] Re: Riding backwards.

2010-11-17 Thread Jeremy Till
Retro-direct drivetrains were developed in the early years of multi- speed bicycles as just another way to have multiple gears, around the same time that IGH's and modern derailers were being developed and before either of those were perfected enough to become ubiquitous. I suppose an advantage

[RBW] Re: Nice Hillborne -- almost wish I'd kept it!

2010-11-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Well, a link would be nice, no? http://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#5540621466925975538 On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:44 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Built up with some old, some new, some average, some chi chi parts for pending sale. Rather nice, no? Almost -- but not

[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

2010-11-17 Thread Juhani
Yes, it’s frustrating because I’ve only heard good things about this combination, but for some reason I can’t get it right. My rear cassette has 9 cogs for sure. And even if it didn’t, my Dura Ace shifters has written on them: “Compatible with RD-7700(9s) RD-7400(8s)”. So it should work even

Re: [RBW] Nice Hillborne -- almost wish I'd kept it!

2010-11-17 Thread David Faller
Nice to know you've finally achieved closure with the Sam Hillborne Experiment. On to the next model! Time for that Roadeo fixie? On 11/17/2010 12:44 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Built up with some old, some new, some average, some chi chi parts for pending sale. Rather nice, no? Almost -- but

Re: [RBW] Nice Hillborne -- almost wish I'd kept it!

2010-11-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I dunno; a Roadeo would be nice but I am presently breathing hard over the thought of a very light, fixed gear 29er. Patrick always subject to change without notice Moore On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:02 PM, David Faller dfal...@charter.net wrote: Nice to know you've finally achieved closure with

[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

2010-11-17 Thread Juhani
OK, but anyways it's a Shimano XT 9-speed cassette with XT 9-speed chain. I counted the cogs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

2010-11-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 11:07 -0800, William wrote: With your updated report you've ruled out cable and housing friction, and in my opinion have eliminated re-routing the cable/housing as a possible solution. If it were friction related, you'd shift well in the 'pulling the cable directio' and

[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

2010-11-17 Thread Juhani
It's a Shimano RD-M770 SGS rear derailleur. Technical Service Instructions paper says Gears: 9. http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/global_cycle/en/us/index/products/mountain/deore_xt/product.-code-RD-M770-SGS.-type-.html

[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

2010-11-17 Thread William
Yep! From what you've described you have a combination that works perfectly every single timejust not yours. A pro looking at it will hopefully find the flaw that we haven't suggested and therefore you haven't told us about, or will decide which part is defective and needs to be replaced.

[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

2010-11-17 Thread Jeremy Till
I'd have somebody check if your derailer hanger is properly aligned. Park makes a gauge for this, most shops should have one... On Nov 17, 1:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Yep!  From what you've described you have a combination that works perfectly every single timejust not

Re: [RBW] Re: First Snow Yesterday

2010-11-17 Thread nawrock
I have been very tempted to try these.  Canadian company too for you up there in Nova Scotia! And I bet they would work great over my Keens. http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442618318FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302692723 Dave Nawrocki Fort

[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

2010-11-17 Thread Allan in Portland
Hello, Thanks for the suggestion. My plan B, or maybe A, since I now already have it, was to get a small storage container from some home goods megastore and using reshaped p-clamps bolt it to the M12 from underneath. I was unable to find a plastic container with a securely latched lid in small

[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

2010-11-17 Thread Mike
The ShopSack, Wald basket, Nitto mini front rack combo is awesome. I can't recommend it highly enough. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/4855266524/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send

Re: [RBW] Tubus Vega rear rack first impressions

2010-11-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I use the Fly, which looks very similar except that it's black and has a single, seatstay bridge strut (and IIRC it might have a slightly higher load rating) on two bikes and the Logo on the Fargo. Excellent racks. I've carried 45 lb on the 12 oz Fly, and just now carried almost 40 lb of groceries

Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

2010-11-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I still shudder slightly, inwardly, at the thought of putting a Wald on a nice Rivendell. I love them for beaters, but not for Rivs. It's like attaching fenders to a $3500 custom with zip ties --- not right! What about a nice wicker basket? Me, I use Axiom Dutch panniers which are simple,

Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

2010-11-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 17:26 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote: I still shudder slightly, inwardly, at the thought of putting a Wald on a nice Rivendell. I love them for beaters, but not for Rivs. It's like attaching fenders to a $3500 custom with zip ties --- not right! And yet, what is more

[RBW] Re: Tubus Vega rear rack first impressions

2010-11-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
The Vega looks identical to the Logo without the extra (lower) pannier rails. I previously owned a Logo on my Fargo... Very nice, very solidly built rack, no question. The primary difference I noticed is that the Tubus is narrower than the Nitto. Some may prefer this; I personally like a rack

[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

2010-11-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Patrick, I would have bet my fancy Platrack that you'd have a Wald on the front of your Riv. I love the practicality of my basket, although I semi-agree with you... I'd way prefer a cool-looking wicker basket... The challenge is to find a nice one that is strong enough and can withstand the

[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

2010-11-17 Thread Mike
I don't think adding the Wald basket cheapens my QB. I can certainly see how one would be hesitant to add one but really, it works so well. I do wish there was a better way to fasten it to the rack rather than using zip-ties. Or rather, I wish there were reusable zip-ties that are just as secure.

[RBW] Riv Road on ebay

2010-11-17 Thread rcnute
I'm waiting for the official RBW name change to Rivendale. http://tinyurl.com/255kf86 Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Riv Road on ebay

2010-11-17 Thread Bruce
And, about the 1st half of the ad copy copy looks very familiar to me --- On Wed, 11/17/10, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: From: rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com Subject: [RBW] Riv Road on ebay To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 8:26 PM I'm

[RBW] Re: Tubus Vega rear rack first impressions

2010-11-17 Thread Michael_S
Patrick, you have it reversed. The Vega has a 25 kg load rating and the Fly only an 18. I had bought the Fly originally as I really like the single front attachment but returned it for the Vega as the width of the Fly is very narrow. They are both very nice racks. I got my silver ones from one

Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

2010-11-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
No front racks on my bikes (except for a touring lowrider for the Fargo) -- mine are happier with rear loads. Half kidding about the Walds; I can easily see how convenient a big front basket would be -- have used a Wald Newsbory myself at least briefly, tho' I didn't like what it did to the

[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

2010-11-17 Thread Allan in Portland
using zip-ties. Or rather, I wish there were reusable zip-ties that are just as secure. Maybe there are, I haven't really explored it. What, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hose_clamp doesn't count? :-) As for the Wald, last summer I sported it in place of the wooden deck on my custom

Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

2010-11-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I forgot to add: I keep my eye out at GW for nice, sturdy baskets and, if I see one, I'll buy it, photograph it and, if you like it and want to pay shipping, I'll send it to you for the cost of carriage. Ne serais ce pas une autre occasion pour la gomme laque ...? On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10

[RBW] Re: Seattle Day-After-Thanksgiving Riv Ride

2010-11-17 Thread rcnute
Downtown is likely going to be crazy...how about leaving from, say, Red Square at UW? Ryan On Nov 13, 11:13 am, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: Hey folks! The first Seattle Riv Ride was a blast. Let's do another! When: Friday November 26th Where: TBD... I'm going to start by

[RBW] Rambouillet Serial #'s?

2010-11-17 Thread rob markwardt
Hi, Any rhyme or reason to Rambouillet serial numbers? I was looking at one on ebay last night and noticed the ser. # was RB0280 (an older orange one). I've got a later green one (RB1163). Did they just go in order or is there any method to the madness? Rob Markwardt -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters

2010-11-17 Thread Juhani
I mixed things a bit in my answer about the torque. The bar-end shifter pods are torqued without tool, but I think they are just right - around 7Nm. They seem very sturdy. The screw that goes through the middle of the shift lever is tightened with a high quality torque tool to recommended 2,5Nm -

[RBW] Re: Saddle bag/sack in front?

2010-11-17 Thread Philip Williamson
Anti-Wald baskets? Please! It ties the whole bike together! http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/261885177/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/2606762352/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/2896429063/ I'm seriously considering putting (hose-clamping) it back on.