The hupe is a danger to your paint just trying to install it. It's a bugger
to get right, so if you're as paranoid about nicks/scratches as I am, you
might want to avoid it. I too have heard reports that it will dig in if
heavily loaded. If I ever use mine again, it will be on a pre-beausaged
I had this exact setup on my Romulus. Berthoud, Mark's Rack, Ruffy Tuffys.
As others have said, I could feel a difference, but nothing disconcerting.
I used a small seatbag for tools tube.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Monday, June 4, 2012 3:25:20 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
I notice an
And I'm the one in the long sleeve seersucker shirt with blue helmet and
the Hobo handlebar bag on the early Sam Hillborne.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:
I'll identify myself with a nice run-on sentence. In
Just to add my two cents, i use a nitto uplift (it's kinda like a bagman
only upside down), but that is only on my 'light' bike on which i carry my
smaller saddlebags, if it was loaded i'd be worried about sag.
as others point out i'd suggest a rear rack, either an r14 (top rack) or a
mark's
Hi guys, been reading the bosco threads and have had a lingering question.
in marc's picture where he puts the bosco on top of the albatross bar, you
can see that to get the same back hand position he'd need a much longer
stem. so for the folks using this bar, did you get a longer stem to
It was actually the pictures of your Hunqapillar with the Boscos that
made me say wow! those bars are kinda sweet-looking!
I hope you post pictures of your Betty with the Boscos. I'm thinking
about getting a pair for my wife's mixte.
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The 10cm stem that I started with is okay but feels confining in slow sharp
turns (the close-maneuvering tactical kind). I intend to switch to a 12cm
stem. I expect that'll probably make the bars even more comfortable in
general.
If I were using bar-end shifters, I'd probably try a 13cm or
Minh,
Speaking for myself, I went with Grant's complete recommendation by
choosing the Bullmoose version. I can only say that on my 58 Hunqapillar it
puts the ends of the bars in a perfect place as it allows me to be fully
upright and relaxed. I believe they are meant to be closer to you than the
Tim:
Just wondering if you still have your Rambouillet for sale. I have a
riding buddy that might
be interested in it. Reply off list if you would. Thanks,
Dick
On Friday, May 25, 2012 8:05:15 AM UTC-4, tim whalen colorado springs wrote:
Some nibbles but no bites so I've cut the
I'll second Mission Hills Bike Shop (141 W. Washington St, San Diego,
CA 92103) and Adams Avenue (2606 Adams Avenue, San Diego, CA
92116). Although they both are located in central San Diego they are
worth a visit.
For a shop closer to La Jolla he might stop by a new shop, Cycle
Quest, at
Well that was so fun it was ridiculous. Great photos Ted and Eric, even
better route - many thanks Jim Thill. Oh, and my Hilsen thanks you too, it
needed the gravel therapy. Of course, I was punished for leaving the group
at Stockholm with 25 miles of headwind back to Red Wing. At least the
BTW, I use downtube shifters now and agree that barend shifters might not
be so advisable on the Bosco bars. As they are, I get no interferences on
tight turns unless I'm straddling the top tube and standing on my feet and
need to turn the handlebars sharply. Then again, I'm pretty hefty.
René
I'll do that this weekend or earlier. Thanks for your comments.
René
On Tuesday, June 5, 2012, Rocky B wrote:
It was actually the pictures of your Hunqapillar with the Boscos that
made me say wow! those bars are kinda sweet-looking!
I hope you post pictures of your Betty with the Boscos.
I have 11 good condition 14-28 five speeders @14 shipped each and five
ditto 14-32 five speeders at $20 shipped each. Plus one 13-30 six
speed, ditto, $15 shipped. CONUS; other places at cost. Make offer
for all 17 and (very possibly) get a fat discount!
Also: TA Pro 5 Vis right/Stronglight 99
So a few lookers but nothing concrete, my 56cm AHH is still for sale
here. It is technically a Hiluki, Serial number SA 226. It has all the
rack fittings of the new Hilsens on the midfork and mid seat stay, one
eyelet on the front fork, two on the back dropout. Has a kickstand
plate, and cast in
Hey Peter, are you selling the bike complete or F/F/HS/brakes?
-thanks-Mike
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
So a few lookers but nothing concrete, my 56cm AHH is still for sale
here. It is technically a Hiluki, Serial number SA 226. It has all the
Soma makes a couple of similar looking bars -- the clarence and the
condorina seem like they could mate and produce what you're looking for.
http://www.somafab.com/parts/handlebar
-Dan
On Sunday, June 3, 2012 12:56:13 PM UTC-4, erik wrote:
Has anyone ever seen one of these? I want a bar like
Sorry, its Frame, Fork, Headset and Brakes. Thanks.
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Michael Williams mkernanwilli...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hey Peter, are you selling the bike complete or F/F/HS/brakes?
-thanks-Mike
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
I could sell the frameset and wheels for $1,500 if anyone was interested.
Alfine wheel done by Harris in the rear, front is Rich built, will include
the Hetres. Thanks.
Peter
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote:
Sorry, its Frame, Fork, Headset and
And I'm the dapper gal attired in the harris tweed vest, stetson (yes,
stetson) wool driving cap, Ibex pinstriped knickers, macrostie town
country boots (http://www.bigfoottrail.com/repair.html), and those luscious
beloved most sadly discontinued gray wool monkey socks. (I provide these
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
And I'm the dapper gal attired in the harris tweed vest, stetson (yes,
stetson) wool driving cap, Ibex pinstriped knickers, macrostie town
country boots (http://www.bigfoottrail.com/repair.html), and those luscious
beloved most
Erik
I *might *have a set for you. Kind of long story. I did a bunch of bike
work for our Elementary School Dad's Club bicycle-recycle event. One of
the bikes I worked on was an 80's sport-touring bike. I swapped the drop
bars for my own old set of SR all rounder bars. The bike looked
Erik
I do have a set for you. Doug says I can have them back. Let's figure out
a small PTA donation + shipping = price if you want them.
Bill
On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 9:47:08 AM UTC-7, William wrote:
Erik
I *might *have a set for you. Kind of long story. I did a bunch of bike
work
My Miyata 650B conversion is coming along. I built the rear wheel last
night. I'm thinking of it as a very low-budget Bleriot.
Bike:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/7341918544/in/photostream
Set:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157629709054752/
The strangest
Is the creamsicle bike a rebadged Saluki, too? Me thinks you have it
confused with the green one.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 9:06:52 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
I could sell the frameset and wheels for $1,500 if anyone was interested.
Alfine wheel done by Harris in the
I picked up this crankset when I was building my wife's Yves Gomez. Riv
was out of XD2 cranks at the time, and I got these from another vendor. I
had been storing these away for an Atlantis build, but that build is fading
into the future horizon. What I really want now is a super fancy set
Haha, that is what I thought too, two re-badged Saluki's but unless I am
mistaking the serial numbers it is serial No SA 0213. Which is I believe
means Saluki 213, probably very late in the run. I am not sure how early on
they got absorbed into the AHH Line but I know the Saluki badging didnt run
All,
Am selling this clean Romulus. I have upgraded to Ultegra shifters and will
include the bar end shifters, brakes and an extra long stem with the deal.
Price $1000
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Pictures are located here:
Erik, I am sure you already know about the alternate 25.4-clamp
Jitensha bar, it is a little bit more curvacious than the normal
J-bar. Also, GB (of England) once made an All-Rounder bar that is
similar to these Sakaes.
I have a Phillippe in the stash that is also close, but which I find
is not
They probably used up Saluki BB shells on hand when they blended Saluki
into Hilsen. John at RBW can give you a close estimate on the # of Salukis
sold, probably. (He did that when I asked him about Rams at the time they
were put to sleep) You could probably get either decal set and headbadge
you
. The frame has been sold.Thank you to all who inquired.
- Frank
On Friday, June 1, 2012 1:16:56 PM UTC-4, frank_a wrote:
Hi All,
For sale:
59.5 Rivendell Road Standard, frame, fork and headset.
This is one of the early Waterford builds with the bi-plane fork, '95 or
'96. I have owned
I find myself incredibly lucky and fortunate to be able to do rides this
far and this long. I have very supportive love ones and I'm lucky enough
that I have the time to do these rides. I find out more about myself every
time I do rides like these. For this Populaire I learned that it was okay
On Jun 5, 1:09 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
My Miyata 650B conversion is coming along. I built the rear wheel last
night. I'm thinking of it as a very low-budget Bleriot.
Looks great! Smart go-anywhere build - I dig it.
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If you are riding with this bar (the Clarence):
http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/clarence-bar
and you are on a Rivendell that can fit Big Apples, do you get to say, "We have clearance, Clarence?"
-Original Message- From: dan gee Sent: Jun 5, 2012 8:44 AM To:
Disclaimer:
This is a very long post and I want to start by stating that I don't mean
to start another heated debate on high vs. low trail fork, or Jan vs. Grant
philosophies, etc. I just want to describe this experiment and its initial
results to the group so anyone thinking along the same lines
Well written and thoughtful treatment of the subject. I'm super glad you
are getting positive results for your substantial efforts. And I for one
think the Pacenti crown looks dynamite.
On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 1:37:57 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
Disclaimer:
This is a very long post and I
Peter,
I lean on the knobs I added just as you might with brake hoods on a
roadie. The only significant difference is that you can position them
where you want on the slope without worrying about a braking position. My
upper body weight ends up resting on the fleshy part of my hand
Kudos to you for doing what you wanted, how you wanted. :-)
And thanks for sharing the thorough description with the rest of us.
...but not liking the Hunq gray? Really? We have to talk. ;-)
Regards,
-Allan
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On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:16:13 AM UTC-7, William wrote:
I picked up this crankset when I was building my wife's Yves Gomez. Riv
was out of XD2 cranks at the time, and I got these from another vendor. I
had been storing these away for an Atlantis build, but that build is fading
Wow.
This sounds like an amazing project. It's nice to know that the bikes
retain the positive aspects of their handling without adding many (if
any) negative aspects when going to low-trail. I'm super tempted to try the
same for my Bleriot!
-J
On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 4:37:57 PM UTC-4, René
Rene:
You are indeed brave to post about your experiment, and I hope
everyone else reviews it thoughtfully.
Something we all need to keep in mind is that as brilliant a designer
as Grant is, every bike is the sum of a large number of compromises.
The fewer the compromises, the more specialized
Well documented; I especially like the mood of the fog photos in
BW. Looks like a fun ride.
dougP
On Jun 5, 12:36 pm, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I find myself incredibly lucky and fortunate to be able to do rides this
far and this long. I have very supportive love ones
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 15:41 -0700, dougP wrote:
Something we all need to keep in mind is that as brilliant a designer
as Grant is, every bike is the sum of a large number of compromises.
The fewer the compromises, the more specialized and hence less
versatile a bike is. For me, one of the
Rene: very interesting experiment; please continue to report as you
add loads and about the Atlantis when you get it back and built.
I gather that your riding position involves a high bar, and that your
weight is concentrated toward the back end of the bike? I wonder how
your H and A would have
Rene,
Can you comment on toe overlap between the different forks on your
Atlantis. It looks like you ride a 58cm and have a small amount of
overlap here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/6617229451/in/photostream/.
Very curious to know if the low-trail fork eliminates any TCO as I'm
Thank you all for your comments and feedback, and for appreciating my
intent in this post.
@C.J.: I'll comment on the toe overlap when I get the Atlantis with the low
trail fork installed. I have no toe overlap on the Hunqapillar.
@Patrick: Yes, I ride with my bars higher than the saddle and
Rene,
Thanks for your write up. Very interesting. I have some thoughts about
the low-trail issue, FWIW.
I definitely noticed a difference in handling between the low trail bike (a
Toei I had for a while) and a Riv, which I assume may be attributable to
the difference in trail. The hard
finally came out of the closet.. eh Doug.
My personal experience is that without the front load the Riv is more
stable and funner to ride. Adding a medium weight upfront/above wheel
load changes the equation.
~mike
On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 3:41:20 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
Rene:
You
I am always impressed with people who can put this type of thought and effort
into a bike project.
I have an Atlantis and a Rambouillet. I have ridden many brevets including
1200k's on the Rambouillet using a large front handlebar bag. The only problem
I have encountered is climbing at
On Jun 5, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 15:41 -0700, dougP wrote:
Something we all need to keep in mind is that as brilliant a designer
as Grant is, every bike is the sum of a large number of compromises.
The fewer the compromises, the more specialized and
Interesting write up.
I noticed in the pictures that your load is fairly forward relative to the
front axle. I am assuming that is so because you've chosen swept back bars
(those new Boscos) and your stem is therefore necessarily longer than
normal to compensate. The long stem means the front
I'm the guy in the blue shirt riding the Hunq with the Slickersack up front.
It was truly a memorable weekend - really great to meet Ted, Sean, Eric and all
the rest of the crew with special thanks to Jim for his excellent leadership.
The Maiden Rock to Stockholm leg via the Rustic Rd was
Tim mentioned The important thing IMHO is that people find bikes that
ride the way they like bikes to ride. That way they will ride more
and will have fun.
That is what it's all about. Whatever works for you may be vastly
different than what works for me. Rider weight, riding style and how
the
Ordered the Mark's Rack. Thank you everyone for your input.
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Will,
You are right about the Pass Stow rack putting the load high and forward.
I liked it and wanted to try it since it allows both the Porteur bag type,
front panniers and any other load that requires a flat surface which also
works great for baskets. It fits very well with the Bosco bars, but
Rene,
Another member JimG and I both did something in the same vein. Jim had a 80's
Trek
400http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimg/5646813626/in/set-72157618420547360/that
he turned into a bike with low trail front end geometry using a
Kogswell fork. I did the same to my 80's Specialized
Thanks for the kind words Bobby. But I'm going to have to disagree with
you. I strongly believe that Grant's attitude with bikes and he tenacity to
develop products and bikes that not only caters to the needs of normal
people but also brings like minded normal people together. It's only
I hear by open up the table for the first annual (hopefully) Rivendell
Rally Bay Area Edition. I know it's kind of late but with school just
ending this was the last thing that crossed my mind. But I digress,
Mr.Grant PetersEn is book signing/reading near the Warming Hut under the
Golden Gate
Hey Manny,
Send me a link or something to ... your source of info. My schedule
mentions something at the Park, but doesn't say any more---no time, no
agenda or anything. I'll be where I gotta when I hafta...no
problem...but tell me what you know. PM is fine.
On Jun 5, 9:34 pm, Manuel Acosta
Thanks to everybody who joined this event! Here's my synopsis of events, in
mostly photo-format.
http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/06/photos-from-rivendell-rally-of-2012.html
On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:06:09 PM UTC-5, Doug Magney wrote:
I'm the guy in the blue shirt riding the Hunq
Link proves that I didn't make it up:
http://www.parksconservancy.org/events/retail/meet-the-author-grant.html
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