You do raise an excellent point. I'm not sure how the B17 will ride, and I'm
definitely not willing to swap for a less comfortable saddle. But I've seen
lots of BF bikes with A-bars and B17s so they must work for some people. The
biggest BF fan in the blogosphere (Dottie from Let's Go Ride A
I'm happy to post photos if someone can explain how I would do this!
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The Rambouillet will actually take 700x38 tires, without fenders of
course--I know because I put a pair of wheels from a Cannondale hybird with
very fat (IRC) 38's on my wife's Ram for the CO canal ride. It looked very
funky, just barely cleared--but did--and rode wonderfully on the wet mush.
There are other options too
Rocks for Tandems attach the front fork elevated above the rail, giving
clearance for fenders. There are also the old style two piece systems that
have a tray for the rebar wheel attaching to the rear cross bar, and a
separate mounting point on the front cross bar for
DIY saddle and bar wrap color matching made easy. Why be limited to the colors
offered by the saddle makers?
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/34156114@N05/8395437401/
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Cool, my posts and pics made it through moderation! Now those of you who wanted
to see Betty and her honey saddle can give me your most honest and informed
opinion on a red B17. Also, tell me if you see the bars being too high for that
saddle... Thanks!
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I have an SS Large on my main rig, but I have never lashed it down, it just
rides freely on top of the rack. I use a Nitto QR with it, so it's really
easy to take off if I want to. The only reason you need the rack there
is for a little extra support for the bag.The bag doesn't sway
I ride upright with a- bars and I love the b-68 and b-68s saddles. The size and
shape would be my first priority over color. Even if it was the same saddle and
color was the only difference, I might still have a slight preference for the
honey (all my b-68 saddles are honey).
That said, you
Your pictures show a very comfortable looking seating position. I would
ride with slightly higher bars, but that's just personal taste. A red
saddle, either Brooks or Selle Anatomica (a great choice for instantly
comfortable sans break in) would look nice.
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 1:51 AM,
Mine darkened nicely. I treat it annually with a dallop of beeswax and coconut
oil. It's just over a year old now.
Here it is recently:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8699690942/in/photostream
Here it is a few months into its life:
One of the many great things about Rivendells is they are made to try many and
various set-ups so you can find the one you like. I took over a year to get my
saddle/handlebar position worked out. There are so many variables, I would
change one (tilt of the seat or handlebars or slid the seat
Anne, I'll use the short Irish straps threaded through the leather slots on the
bottom to attache it to the rack, not to strap it on by going over the whole
bag. Like the leather straps posted earlier with pics.
With abandon,
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Thanks all! This is very helpful.
Mike, I will. I already know from touring how much weight I can take how high
up. I could clearly over weight the large SS easily. I'll have to learn
temperance. Grin. When camping I have some clothing, my tent, stove (Kelly
Kettle), sleeping bag, and pad that
Going the Full Monty, some rationalizations of multi-sport use and general
utility need necessary :
http://www.etrailer.com/tv-Review-Yakima-Rack-and-Roll-Trailer-Y08107.aspx
Cuts rooftop drag of fixed rack systems all the times you are not carrying
bikes or gear, and more aero under way when
Hi Pierre,
I have Rivendells with Longboards and Yakima Boa solved my problem:
http://www.yakima.com/shop/bike/roof/boa/
FWIW - they work with either Thule or Yakima crossbars. Simple as it is.
Cheers,
Alex
St. Paul
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Yes,as Steve pointed out, Rivendells use oversized tubing. My Homer is perhaps
stiffer than my 155 lb body needs. I read with great interest Jan's writings on
frame flex and planing with standard diameter tubing.
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On Thursday, May 9, 2013 8:58:28 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:
Hey Norman get out of my head! :-)
The greatest Hobo Band ever. RIP Richard, Rick Levon. My sound track
through life.
Hugh
On Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:38:33 PM UTC-7, Norman R wrote:
My idea of classy hobo.
Yes, one of
I like the honey colored ones, but they definitely darken down with use.
Here's a quick set with some images -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157633477879224/
The second to last in the set is an old B-15. That's the only (I think)
original brown colored Brooks I've got. It
What I always wondered is, does the natural' darken down to where the
honey starts off?
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Cyclofiend Jim
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I like the honey colored ones, but they definitely darken down with use.
Here's a quick set with some images -
The SS large looks huge. I bet with one of those and a small TrunkSack I
could fit everything for an S24O. Here's a picture of my Hilsen from a
couple of years ago when I did an S24O using only the medium SS and a TS.
Well...I got a lot of Go red! votes and decided to cruise on over to
wallbike.com to snatch the saddle and lo and behold - sold out! I shot them an
email to see when they get more. They have a very generous 6 month return
policy, and I purchased my other Brooks from them, so will wait until I
*Sorry Betty*, *but we may need to rename this one Leah Foy. * It looks
great on you and your family, Leah.
I would seriously consider Deacon Patrick's advice. I love the B17 (and
own more than I care to admit), but it's not as comfortable as the B68 or
B67 (sprung version) in my opinion.
It is a lovely bike, and the red B17 will look great on it it, I hope it
fits you as well.
You will probably have to be content with appreciate comments over the
internet, as other than that anything more than the occasional How old is
that bike? comment are few and far between IRL.
Thread
This one is about ten years old. I rarely put any poofhide on it so it's a
little lighter than some others.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/7708647220/in/photostream
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 7:42:28 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
What I always wondered is, does the natural' darken down to
Changed up the Rambouillet a little today. Added the IRD Stem Shifter mount
as I am getting too old to reach down to the downtube to shift, changed the
rear derailler, put the fenders back on, a few other minor things. Here is
a picture set of it's current incarnation:
@Peter:
apparently it does. Dig this:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/s6.htm
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Nice setup, David. I love the new tape job, too! I have recently moved the
shifters to the stem on my Miyata, and like the change up. I'm using the
stacked method that Rene pointed out.
Brian Hanson
Seattle, Wa
On May 12, 2013, at 10:48 AM, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the info and pics, y'all.
It looks like it makes for unique, interesting, and beautiful wear
patterns for each saddle and rider.
Kinda like a sunburst painted guitar. It looks like it makes for a
sunburst type coloration on a saddle. Very cool. Dark in some areas,
lighter
Agreed. The looks are very important. Makes the bike so personal, I think. My
honey saddle is 9 months old, and I would say it hasn't darkened so much, but
it is richer looking with age. I have treated it with Proofhide a few times and
it really brings out a richness in the color.
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On Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:25:07 PM UTC-4, Dan Scott wrote:
Any suggestions for
+1 for the leather straps under the bag to fix to the rack instead if zip ties.
I use Carradice leather straps which are thinner and more flexible than the
Acorn straps.
No sway whatsoever, even descending rough rocky trails as proven on the last
RBW S24O.
Additionally, if you have the
Hugh on his Hilsen I on my Atlantis, off for a fun filled Saturday
adventure. With an average grade of minus 3% and a 2,000' elev loss, this
48 mile ride should have been a day at the beachNOT! Pictures prove we
really did it:
Today's ride confirmed that the large SS is the way to go. I removed my small
SS and just used the panniers, which have the same capacity as the large. But
the panniers are a lot more brain energy to access and close up, let alone
remember which side what is on. Thank you for all the input guys
Grand adventure is what it's all about! Great looking ride.
With abandon,
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I know the feeling. My Hilsen and Cross Check are in the same boat.
Your Rambouillet looks great.
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Doug Hugh, looks like a great ride. The terrain there is so different
than what we have here in OR. Both the bikes look perfect.
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When I purchased and had Keven and Mark build up my AHH a few months ago, I
went with the default 100mm Tallux Stem. I had nothing to compare it
too since I've always road race bikes previously. After 2 months of
adjusting the stem height, saddle tilt, etc. I wasn't able to find a really
Today I got to go out and complete the ride that snow stopped me from
completing last week.
Leaving my house, I climb up Mountain Avenue, a mountain residential road which
mostly climbs to Mt. Ester trailhead. Mt. Ester trail is a 40 minute push the
bike over rocks and roots and grades I
Congratulations! You're way ahead of me on finding the elvin magic. I took over
a year to dial in my prefered saddle and handlebar places. Enjoy the ride!
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Looks like a fun time! Thanks for sharing.
Was wondering if you have ever spent extended lengths of time at sea level
and how the vertigo responds to that.
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Yeah Mike I was comparing the contrast between our two different worlds
our's arid your's temperate both interesting to ride. The ride was
exhilarating and great to be on the saddle for a whole day and Doug's a
good ride partner.
I was mentioning to Doug that I'm going to make a road trip up
And the Hilsen and Atlantis performed magnificently
~Hugh.
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:44:03 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
Yeah Mike I was comparing the contrast between our two different worlds
our's arid your's temperate both interesting to ride. The ride was
exhilarating and great to be on
Hugh, if you're in Portland next year definitely get in touch with me or
Andy from this list. There's a lot of great riding just outside the city.
And if you're willing to drive a little ways outside the city, to say
Estacada, you have easy access to the quiet forest roads of the Mt Hood
Mr. Patrick,
Awesome photo's really enjoyed them. Looks to be a wonderful ride and one I
could see my self doing. Keep em coming.
~Hugh
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 1:21:07 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Today I got to go out and complete the ride that snow stopped me from
completing last
Beautiful country Patrick. Looks like you're really getting out there and
exploring on your Hunq. I'm not complain about the riding I have access to
here in Portland but I'd be lying if I didn't say I wasn't jealous of what
you have available to you in your backyard. As always, thanks for
Mike,
It's in the works, enough time to plan logistics, time, lodging
and different rides especially those in moist forested places. And yes you
two will be in the loop.
~Hugh
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:04:30 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote:
Hugh, if you're in Portland next year definitely get in touch
Great stuff. You live in a spectacular region. Thanks for sharing the
adventure and photos.
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They forgot to mention we're in a bit of a heat-wave right now, with today
the blisteringly hottest (105F currently in my back yard). Don't know if it
was like that at their elevation, but a consideration nonetheless!
Looks like one long consequential climb to me!
Cheers,
David
On Sun, May
Several tangential thoughts in response to what's been said above...
I have brain injury and constant neurological vertigo (among other fun). I
hadn't ridden a bicycle (except for occasional trying to see how it and my
vertigo got along) since the end of 2002. Late last winter, I tried a bike
Ahhh ha! Looking though the threads, I got it. Hip position. When you get your
B17, play around with the tilt of your pelvic girdle (by flattening or
excentuating the curve of your lower back). This will help you find what riding
position is most comfortable for each saddle.
WIth abandon,
Any reason to use leather rather than Irish straps?
With abandon,
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My latest Quickbeam adventure: 200 miles (7,500 feet of climbing) on the QB in
its latest incarnation, running a 3-speed IGH:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157633479207826/show/
You can see my QB leaning against the wall at the top of Monticello Dam in this
photo:
200 miles! That's impressive, Eric!
With abandon,
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Do the black one's show any type of special wear over time?
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Pierre,
What Michael and Aaron said. Are you just determined to have a roof rack
system? I have a friend who is in no way stupid but he has decimated two
bicycles running the whole system loaded into parking garages. Of course
both were covered by insurance but do you really want to go
I already had the leather straps. Any strap will do.
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Any reason to use leather rather than Irish straps?
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Tilting a B17 is the key to riding it comfortably. Irrespective of how it
looks. A dual bolt post that can let you tweak the inclination by a quarter
turn of one bolt is a must.
René
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On Sun, 2013-05-12 at 16:51 -0700, René Sterental wrote:
Tilting a B17 is the key to riding it comfortably. Irrespective of how
it looks. A dual bolt post that can let you tweak the inclination by a
quarter turn of one bolt is a must.
Agree 100%. 2-bolt posts are great, and setting the
I've never heard of such a thing! All this time I've been wrenching on my
current saddle with an Allen key, adjusting it a millimeter this way or that.
There is actually some better contraption out there?
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Nitto: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sp2.htm
Paul: http://www.paulcomp.com/seatpost.html
But the best IMO is Thomson setback in silver:
http://bikethomson.com/seatposts/elite-seatpost-series/
The problem is you need a decent amount of post showing in order to clear
the bend they have.
I use this one :
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/seatposts/vo-grand-cru-seat-post-long-setback.html
You will still need to ride with an Allen key, but adjustment is so much easier!
Sage cycling,
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Trophy Bikes in Northern Liberties
Bicycle Revolutions in Queen Village
Via Bicycle off South Street
My basement!!!
-J, PHL
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+1 on what Deacon stated, as good as the Red saddle would look you might
rue the experience in the up right position and end up posting a
transaction selling a red B-17 on this list.Then again you may just want to
go for it and perhaps it'll work for you especially if they make the red
B-17
What are you looking for? I live just outside of Philly. I can help with a
build if need be.
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Love it! Hope your Mother's day was great all around
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 6:59 PM, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm late to the party, but here's one from yesterday. Pictured are my two
best little guys, my best furball, and their dad/my husband is behind the
lens.
On
How thick are your dropouts? Is it possible that you're bottoming out the
bolt and serrated washer on the end of the axle that protrudes into the
dropout before you're fully clamping the dropout?
I use the same hubs on my Quickbeam with no problems, I have found that
they don't need huge
Patrick,
Amazing photos and riding. Was out that way once. On our honeymoon in
1989. Not once was it that clear. Rode the train up Pike's Peak and
remember thinking it would be fun to ride out there some day. Am totally
jealous, but the photos do jog some good memories.
Eric Platt
St. Paul,
For those that are interested in watching 10 seconds of people riding their
bikes really fast up a mountain.
Doing an overnighter somewhere over Diablo. Planning on heading out from
walnut creek bart around 6ish on Friday
and riding the most of the mountain to get to our campsite.
Camping
Hey Doug-- is that the new Nitto rear rack that you have on your atlantis?
If so, how do you like it?
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:30:03 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
Hugh on his Hilsen I on my Atlantis, off for a fun filled Saturday
adventure. With an average grade of minus 3% and a 2,000' elev
Thank you; you are too kind. I had a great whole weekend with this crew!
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David,
It was warmer today about a 100F at my house, cooler yesterday and cooler
yet up at elevation. And as Doug quoted while on Mendenhall there's always
another hill of consequence and it was one long day
of consequential climbing.
~Hugh
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:26:32 PM UTC-7,
Lugged Nitto is the perfect match for brooks saddles IMO.
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/so 39.htm
On May 12, 2013 8:51 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
+1 on what Deacon stated, as good as the Red saddle would look you might
rue the experience in the up right position and end up
Thanks for posting Patrick!looks like the Hunq is getting used
perfectly. -Mike
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Today I got to go out and complete the ride that snow stopped me from
completing last week.
Leaving my house, I climb up Mountain
Ha Jeremy,
I noticed the rack too as I thought he had a Nitto big back rack on our
last ride. The rack looked great and was finished off with usual Nitto
fashion, great welds beautiful shiny finish. I'll let Doug fill in the
other metrics.
`Hugh
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:16:02 PM UTC-7,
Looks incredible, guys! I've been wanting to get up into that area myself.
Thanks for posting the photos!
Bryan
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Brian - thanks for the offer. Just looking for a good place to get serviced,
etc. and prefer to use a Riv friendly. My LBS in the burbs )swarthmore area is
only into the typical road bikes.
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On my Rambouillet, I found that fastex buckles work really well to secure the
large saddle sack. Half the fastex is triple zipped tied to each Brooks saddle
hoop. The other side is attached to the bag with short leather straps. The bag
sits flat on a Nitto mini rack with a light nylon strap
Thanks everybody. I've checked out the Thule Criterium at REI, looks very
well designed.
I consider that hitch mounted bicycle racks are a better solution, by far
(easy loading/unloading, accommodate virtually any bike, most will even
tilt to access trunk, safe...).
The only downside I found
Patrick:
I used large zip ties, which won't cinch to as tight a radius as the
smaller ones will. Here's a recent picture from a s24o done yesterday:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/8732869528/in/photostream/
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It's not a Foy, but the Hilsen certainly rocks the red saddle, if I do say
so myself.
So-so profile: http://www.flickr.com/photos/47116230@N00/7230483948/
Hilsen in repose: http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/7398233282/
Cheers,
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Great short video of a bike collector. Pretty sure that's a copy of Just Ride
he's thumbing through there too.
http://vimeo.com/65542790
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Yes, it's a Nitto R26. Quite a bit different than the Big Back Rack that I
got from Rivendell a few years ago. It's a couple of inches shorter and
the platform is much narrower. The Big Deal is the second set of bars to
allow mounting panniers below the platform. That works well. Since I
Thanks for sharing
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he's thumbing through there too.
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The trails of Devil Mountain are often, indeed, ruddy.
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More important than the aesthetics issue is the comfort issue. You won't
know until you try.
Call around local shoppes to see if they have an old B17 lying around you
could take out on a trial run. If you like the red, you could buy one thru
them.
I don't know where you are located,
Better ask the dealer on that one. Maybe even get it in writing if you are
worried at all. I wouldn't think that would be considered towing though.
-Aaron in Vancouver
On Sunday, May 12, 2013, Pierre wrote:
Thanks everybody. I've checked out the Thule Criterium at REI, looks very
well
Dig this:
Two of the Rivfolks communicated to me *as if they did not cotton* to short
stems on a bike, which is surprising since they are usually into whatever
makes you comfy. I was really surprised to even read a derisive comment
from one of them about the aesthetics of a short stem. I was
Dig this:
A couple Rivfolks communicated to me *as if they did not cotton* to short
stems on a bike, which is surprising since they are usually into whatever
makes you comfy. I was really surprised to even read a derisive comment
from one of them about the aesthetics of short stems. I was
Thanks, Michael! I'd sure have taken you up on that if I lived close, but I'm
not even in the same time zone! I'll be in touch with wallbike.com tomorrow and
see what they say about the B17 after I send them a pic of my current setup.
Wonder if this cherry Brooks will be so gorgeous that I
Very kewl.
You cats are too much.
Wish I could go 200 miles.
Thanks for sharing those great photos.
I like your spoke reflectors. Reflective tape?
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I am interested in your take on how your rides develop over your centuries
(or greater) rides on your Rivs vs. your modern geo/materials road bikes.
Do you find yourself comfortable longer on the Riv's?
Safer handling for when your are tired after great distances?
Maybe no diffs? Maybe you feel
Beautiful! I like it
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I found the spoke reflectors at a nine show. They are slotted plastic tubes
wrapped in 3M reflective tape that snap onto the spokes. Very highly visible at
night.
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Very kewl.
You cats are too
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