On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 22:24 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote:
Its too narrow for my fat ass. If they make a wide one in a year or
two I will give it a look. Should come in somewhat cheaper than the
standard offerings considering its made of rubber and cotton.
Yes, exactly like this.
On Mon,
Bars are working out really well—just ordered a bosco/tallux 13mm/stem
shifter mounts for the Saluki. Thanks for asking Micheal! Neck is getting
worked on and making progress.
Far better than the harness hobby horse!
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I like it, looks like a lot of fun.
Probably would ever buy one, but it would be loads of fun to try.
Scott
Cheers,
Scott Henry
Dayton, OH
FTM-PTB
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
Actually not politics at all.
The nternet combined with inexpensive global shipping is changing the world
of commerce. Companies that know how to take advantage of both make money
products targetting global niche markets. Vegan products make up a
growing, multi-million market. Brooks is
Made in the UK AFAIK.
On Monday, June 17, 2013 9:16:48 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
I worked in a Vegan restaurant for a long time (a lot of fixed gear bikes)
and the owner made it a point not to make the non-vegans feel like they
were baby killing satan worshippers. I would imagine the smart
There is a longer quill version of the dirt drop too.
http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=188_263_1332_720products_id=12315zenid=c55107306d68d3b56de8b7b97ad89d70
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:37 AM, clayton treefir...@yahoo.com wrote:
I use a 10 cm Nitto dirt drop. I
doesn't look like it comes in anything other than 25.4mm clamp though.
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:39 AM, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.comwrote:
There is a longer quill version of the dirt drop too.
If I didn't have my 58cm Ram now, I jump on this one! Whoever gets it will be
happy!
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On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 06:34 -0700, Matthew J wrote:
Actually not politics at all.
I disagree. When I read about veganism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism it's all politics. Using the
word is invoking politics.
Why Vegan for this saddle, and not any of the many, many plastic
saddles on
Sorry to hear of your problem, but at least it can be repaired. Sounds like RBW
is willing to help even if they don't have a 'no questions asked' replacement
policy.
I have one of the original orange Rams. I got it used four years and have put
3000 miles on it with no problems. Hope yours is
This was a great trip but far too short in spite of two big mileage days in
the woods on fantastic back roads old and new. I love the Mt Hood NF, so
many opportunities for bike camping. While I've been out there a number of
times I still feel I've only scratched the surface. While cloudy, it
Update, Monday June 17 5:45 pm PDT: Cockpit sold, other items sold, Here's
what remains for sale:
Front and Rear Rich Lesnik Synergy wheels, Phil Wood Hubs, Jack Brown
tires 700 x 36 mm wheels
Front and Rear SKS fenders, stays, and Sackville Mud Flaps
Paid well over $700, sell both sets
Located in Pasadena, CA.
On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, Stmike wrote:
Selling my as new Rivendell Rambouillet 58 cm bicycle. It has less than
250 miles on it and is in perfect condition. It is the beautiful forest
green color with white accents. It is built with the following
Me, and the bike, are located in Pasadena, CA - near Los Angeles.
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*Sold
*
On Monday, June 17, 2013 1:37:26 PM UTC-4, ColonelJLloyd wrote:
Super strong and very lightweight wheelset. The anodizing is mostly worn
off of the brake tracks, but the rims have loads of life left. Wheels are
true and round with proper tension. The hubs are super smooth with no
*SOLD*
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Looking to trade a bike's worth of lightly used Silver sidepull brakes for
a set of bolt-on Silver or Tektro R559 long-reach sidepulls. Ideally, a
trade would happen in person in the SF Bay Area, but happy to do an
exchange through the mail as well. Please contact me off-list if you would
How about the Hunq prototype? I borrowed this beauty for the day to go
explore Shell Ridge and Diablo. REALLY fun bike...I had a horrible head
cold that day but had one of the best rides Ive ever taken.
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4128/4994817314_cec492130d_b.jpg
No worries. The striped wool shirt is sold already!
Still available:
Ibex woman's jacket
Ibex flannel shirt
Patagonia Merino sweater
LL Bean norwegian sweater
On Monday, June 17, 2013 5:16:12 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, reply to list, sorry...
Cheers,
David
On Mon, Jun
Apparently you have not been following the earlier discussions on the
Cambium.
Yes, mainstream saddles are frequently plastic. I and others interested in
leather free alternatives to quality Brooks and Berthoud saddles have said
and this and other bicycle forums that the plastic saddles all
*There are a growing number of prosperous vegans in the UK, US, EU, and of
course India, who like nice things without dead animals in them. The
majority is not yet enlightened, but we are growing and we are very willing
to spend our money on products that don't need to kill an animal to make.*
Here's maps of the routes:
Day 1:goo.gl/maps/sDsTR
Day 2: goo.gl/maps/hvsXn
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Arguing comfort or lack thereof of something one has never used is not
disingenuous?
Your argument is the lack of leather should lower the market value of the
product. My response is to show there is in fact a significant market that
values the lack of leather.
Zappos, to name one large
Because it's fun to watch the histrionics:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bavsss.htm
Cheers,
David
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
The thread was started by a person actually using the saddle, which is
where discussions of comfort come in. You are
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 10:56 -0500, Matthew Joly wrote:
Arguing comfort or lack thereof of something one has never used is not
disingenuous?
Isn't that exactly what you are doing? I say again, the world is full
of platic saddles. Most cyclists find them comfortable. If you haven't
found one
The thread was started by a person actually using the saddle, which is
where discussions of comfort come in. You are injecting politics into it,
then pretending you're not. I'm quite well versed in the tactics of
political debate on the internet, and know the semantics game. I'm done
with
I was just thinking that I hope Riv gets a few of these saddles in stock.
They have been supportive of Brooks as a brand and cyclists who want
alternatives to leather products in the past so it seems plausible. I
don't need a new saddle but I am curious how this compares to my Brooks.
FWIW
Interesting... it's a green one like mine, but it doesn't have the rack
braze-ons...
Is mine that odd?
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:45:14 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
If I didn't have my 58cm Ram now, I jump on this one! Whoever gets it will
be happy!
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Gentlemen, take your panties, pull them out and untwist them.
Not sure how a persons dietary choices are thought of as political.
Barry, nor George, could care less what you eat.
Go step away from the computer and have a Snicker's bar, some of you get
cranky when you are hungry.
Its a seat, you
a snickers bar isn't vegansorry couldn't resist.
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Scott Henry ske...@gmail.com wrote:
Gentlemen, take your panties, pull them out and untwist them.
Not sure how a persons dietary choices are thought of as political.
Barry, nor George, could care less
If you fell over, you'd be an upside down turtle. SPD harness point?
Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:09:52 AM UTC-4, Skenry wrote:
I like it, looks like a lot of fun.
Probably would ever buy one, but it would be loads of fun to try.
Scott
Cheers,
Scott Henry
Mine didn't have rack braze-ons. I think you got the oddball...in a good
way.
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:37:17 AM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:
Interesting... it's a green one like mine, but it doesn't have the rack
braze-ons...
Is mine that odd?
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:45:14 AM UTC-4,
Food isn't vegan, actually. All the woodland creatures displaced and
slaughtered in the plowing and maintenance of those grain fields. Short of
growing all my own food using only hand tools very slowly, I can't figure
out how I could eat a truly vegan diet.
And it is absolutely a moral
Gave Sam the road bike a makeover last week, bars re taped with fresh red
Neubaums tape with a few coats of clear and amber shellac. Also added red
anodized VP0001 pedals. So I took him on across town to pick up my wife's
car...got a few nice bikes along the way. Stopped at Minnehaha Falls
Proposed route for Sunday http://goo.gl/maps/TJrCA
sunday meeting at the Ferry building around 10ish .
As for Monday I'll check with Jared about the route back to SF.
I know it's dirt over the hills and road coming back to SF.
SUPER MOON!!
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Seems like we are having trouble with camping grounds.
Here's my proposed idea. I don't know how a handful of folks feel about it.
BUT this could work out with some local knowledge around the area.
We could all meet (via car or bike or train or spaceship) at a designated
spot.
Then we ride
Does Rivendell still sell the short bolt for mounting kickstands on
kickstand plates? I am looking at the twin legger and the bolt is too long
for a bike with a kickstand plate. I know I got the short bolt at Rivendell
a while ago for another bike but I don't see it now. Would this fleabay one
My green Ram does not have braze-ons. I have seen a green Ram that the
owner said was purchased right at the end of the model run - it did have
braze-ons.
Dan
-Marin
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting... it's a green one like mine, but it
I often think I should have bought one of the single TT Sams while they
were available. Great looking bike.
Cheers,
David
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:24 AM, bwphoto bwphotograph...@gmail.com wrote:
Gave Sam the road bike a makeover last week, bars re taped with fresh red
Neubaums tape with a
Thank you Andrew for your donation!
- Brian
On Monday, June 17, 2013 11:21:07 AM UTC-7, Benedikt wrote:
I'll be riding the Courage Classic again this year. It's a 178 mile, 3 day
ride though 3 mountain passes in beautiful Cascades. It was created as a
fundraising ride to support the Rotary
RBW has them. The one in fleabay should work too.
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On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
Does Rivendell still sell the short bolt for mounting kickstands on
kickstand plates? I am looking at the twin legger and the bolt is too
Peter,
If you have an ace hardware nearby, that's where i picked mine up. but rbw
still have it too. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/k5.htm
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:56:53 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:
Does Rivendell still sell the short bolt for mounting kickstands on
kickstand plates? I
How sad that this is getting so off topic right when the “off topic” veers
into territory that I (possessing both philosophy and political science
degrees) am qualified to comment on. J The vegan choice is a moral choice;
often motivated by religion (of course, religion and morals often
I just bought a shorty bolt from Riv. Jared guided me to the hidden
treasure bolt:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/k5.htm
Use the drop down to select shorty bolt instead of the chain stay
sandwich.
(If the link doesn't work: go to Add Ons -- Kickstands -- Pletscher
Kickstand Hardware.)
On
Manny,
I've been mostly keeping out of this discussion but will offer my local
insight here.
I work at Cuesta College, half-way between SLO and Morro Bay. It also
happens to be directly across Highway 1 from El Chorro campground.
I ride to work most days and the campus is right at the Marine
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb3a.htm
Just think of it as the love child of the Moustache H’bar and the
Albatross.
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Not yet, just tried to order.end of June.
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:21:55 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb3a.htm
Just think of it as the love child of the Moustache H’bar and the
Albatross.
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I know with the original m-bar it was recommended to move to a stem 2cm
shorter than one would use with drop bars. I wonder what is recommended for
this bar. It looks great and is very tempting to try.
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So its like a zero rise Albatross?
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM, clayton treefir...@yahoo.com wrote:
Not yet, just tried to order.end of June.
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:21:55 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
??? 25K miles at least? Hardly short. Uncomfortable? Proof? Again 25 k
miles over the years? My first Flite from circa 1990 that has been on half
a dozen bikes with 7 k on the last one? Not to mention all the other Flites
I've put thousands of miles on? And this is just one particular model of
Wow what a great bike. I live in Burbank. Love to come by and see it. I'm in
San Antonio but I'll be back in LA on Monday.
cscottburg...@gmail.com
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I'm going to have a nice steak tonight.
If there is one thing that annoys, it is badly reasoned yet still pompous
self righteousness.
Don't eat animal products if you don't like to. Good Hindus don't, and good
Orthodox monks don't, either. They have good reasons, but they don't assume
a pose of
This is funny. Last year, right about this time, it was when Rapha had just
introduced their new shoes made out of Yak leather. I was peacefully riding my
B17'ed Sam when approached from behind by a large group of fast/racer types. As
the group sped by me, a guy on a Colnago yelled for everyone
I would like to purchase a Rivendell Rambouillet frame or complete bike.
56cm is the size. Any color. Please email or reply to post.
Thanks.
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Exactly what proof would you need. To watch me and hundreds of other hammock
saddle fans squirm while riding plastic saddles.
I've tried dozens of models over the years. For a while I thought the Fizik
Ronin [sp?] was going to be the one. The padding wore down in less than a
month. Surface
I'm wondering what the pant stain factor of the Cambium may be.
Some of my Brooks saddles have been OK this way, some less so.
Also wondering about the breathability or thermal experience in warm weather.
And shellacking of the cotton weave will not be allowed!
Chris
Tucson, AZ
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On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm wondering what the pant stain factor of the Cambium may be.
Also wondering about the breathability or thermal experience in warm
weather.
I've got the natural color model and as one might expect, haven't stained
my
You know, I was excited by a slightly lower rise Alba idea but I think this
is a huge miss in that you can't use it with Mtn. Bike levers ... I just
don't get the wrist-up position of trying to use drop bar levers in a
semi-horizontal way.
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:21:55 PM UTC-4, Liesl
I thought I would get a little more realistic and see if I could find
anyone selling a Sam Hillborne in the 52 size. I prefer the blue but any
color would work as long as it's not the canti version. If you don't have
one to sell but know of one or a deal on one somewhere let me know. I am
WTB: Brooks Cambium C17
-Jimmy
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@Mike: The curves being an inch closer makes up that 2cm difference. I'm
guessing no swapping out necessary.
@Jeffrey: The road brakes work fine horizintal-ish. No weirdness in my
experience.
I don't know what to make of the inch less of drop. IMHO they could have
added an additional inch of
:-) Given that there are about 200 in the wild right now it's a long shot,
at least on this list. As far as I know I'm the only one on
RBW-owners-bunch who owns one.
Aloha,
Bob
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Jimmy Hutch ji...@jimmyhutchinson.comwrote:
WTB: Brooks Cambium C17
-Jimmy
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The times that I have tried Mustache Bars I felt like I could never get
them high enough. I think the relaxed drop on these new style bars would
have helped in those situations. I realize now that I was trying to make
the bars into something they were not. I think Mustache Bars where
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 16:07 -0700, Chris Halasz wrote:
I'm wondering what the pant stain factor of the Cambium may be.
Some of my Brooks saddles have been OK this way, some less so.
Also wondering about the breathability or thermal experience in warm weather.
And shellacking of the
Gee, anyone can order one right now, or is the obvious a disguise ? Only
145 British Pounds $226 USD.
I thought of all places .. this place would be free of vegan talk. !
Ahahahahaahaha !
Whatever your ism is and we've all got our own .. it won't last
forever... none of
In case anybody missed this, it is pretty funny for lugged steel fans such
as ourselves:
http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2013/06/fred-people-problems.html
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Flat road levers, as on a moustache bar, are really good. You can rest your
palms on them for cruising, with the thumb tucked behind the non-aero cables
and your pinkies tucked behind the lever. You get nice one finger leverage on
the brakes. If you like to use the ends as your grip, you can
They work fantastically in the dirt. I've tried multiple drop bars off
road, and none of them are better than M-bars, although I have wanted them
to be!
Cheers,
David
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:40 PM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
The times that I have tried Mustache Bars I felt like I could
I agree with Jason. I thought the big drop of Moustache Bars was an
unnecessary headache requiring a tall stem to fix. I also found (with my
short arms) the curves to be a tad too deep. I love the look of this bar
style, and now it finally appears I'll be able to *use* them.
On Tuesday, June
Reminds me I've got a couple of fresh paint gouges on my Atlantis from a
recent pitching over the gate exercise. I should attend to those.one
of these days.
dougP
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:06:02 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote:
In case anybody missed this, it is pretty funny for
At least you don't have to take your Atlantis to the shop to be
professionally tested for structural integrity. :-)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:09:22 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
Reminds me I've got a couple of fresh paint gouges on my Atlantis from a
recent pitching over the gate exercise. I
Am I the last person on this list to see this? Apologies if this is old
news--haven't found a thread on it. Apparently won praise at 2012 cycling
film festival: http://vimeo.com/46103673 Both bikes moustachioed, too.
Tom
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That looks like a wonderful trip, and I'm hoping for an opportunity to get up
there and try it myself some day. In the meantime, I'm inspired to try a
longer distance overnighter than my routine outing. Thanks for that!
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Looks good Mike. Makes me want to come up and visit.
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:40:39 AM UTC-7, Mike wrote:
This was a great trip but far too short in spite of two big mileage days
in the woods on fantastic back roads old and new. I love the Mt Hood NF, so
many opportunities for bike
Mike this helps a lot. thanks!
So details so far.
Date: July 27-28
Location: El Chorro campgrounds
I'm planing on leaving early sometime Saturday. Hoping getting there
sometime in the afternoon.
This okay with everyone?
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:41:50 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote:
Hoodlums. All of them. Specially that asian kid. He keeps looking at the
camera! What a weirdo.
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:23:01 PM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote:
Am I the last person on this list to see this? Apologies if this is old
news--haven't found a thread on it. Apparently won praise
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:28:06 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
@Mike: The curves being an inch closer makes up that 2cm difference. I'm
guessing no swapping out necessary.
That's good to know. Makes them a little more economical to try out. I
wanted to like the older style but felt
And here is the built up bike:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157634204220895/with/9080786811/
still to do - trim off the rack stays, and bolt the front fender to the
front rack. It will happen. Eventually.
On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:29:03 AM UTC-7, Lynne Fitz wrote:
When I
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