[RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Garth
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Custom, MB-1, and Co-Motion For Sale

2015-11-23 Thread flashman88
I have updated prices based on feedback from the group. On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 1:36:24 PM UTC-8, flashman88 wrote: > > I am helping sell a few bike from my brother-in-laws estate. He was a bike > builder and welder for many years in the Eugene area for Co-Motion. I am > hoping to find

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Ron Mc
the law argument is that most states don't require motorcycle helmets. I also don't know a surgeon who would ever own a motorcycle - they hate them because they have to stop and render aid at every one, but they all ride bikes. . It ends up being about common sense. I would vote in favor of a

Re: [RBW] Re: Forget your Sackvilles; the cool load carrier is a hacked Lands' End tote. Also, Kojaks versus Marathons.

2015-11-23 Thread Patrick Moore
That is so odd. My Racers were old; can the casing or tread deteriorate so that the tire rolls worse? I know it's not in my imagination! The first ride on the Kojaks was very different: certainly it felt faster. (Once again, I have the image of rubbing brake blocks when thinking of how the Racers

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Edwin W
Tim, You wrote about car safety: "because cars have four wheels and are good at staying on them." I agree, but still 30,000 people die in car wrecks every year and 280,000 get head injuries from cars. Each year. Still, some things are safer than others. Biking in the Netherlands is safer

[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-23 Thread iamkeith
Wow, Bill! That was very nice of you, and much appreciated. If you want to try to send me a snapshot of the sketches through PM, that would be great. I probably should have done this myself, and maybe still will - now that you've made me feel lazy and inadequate. In the meantime, I'll

[RBW] Re: No new Cheviots until December 2016!

2015-11-23 Thread Lynne Cooney
I wound up that way because the shop either did not know better or did not care. Neither is a good answer. It would be one thing if I had insisted on the tire/fender combo used, but they picked it out, not me. I personally love SKS fenders, and the breakaway doohickeys are awesome. I've never

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-23 Thread iamkeith
On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 10:05:44 AM UTC-7, R Michaels wrote: > > I'm fairly new to this but have been unable to find the Choco-stache bars > you are referring to. Where can I find them? > R. > >> >>> As far as I know, the 'new' Joe Appaloosa prototype, and the photos circulating of it

[RBW] Re: Was a 55cm double top tube Hillborne ever made?

2015-11-23 Thread 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch
The main difference between my (old) 56cm double TT and my (new) 55 cm single TT Sams are that I used to be able to grasp the lower TT to lift the bike without worrying about the frame pump, which I used to place between the TT's! Actually, my original was first generation and had a "made to a

[RBW] Re: No new Cheviots until December 2016!

2015-11-23 Thread Joe Bernard
"Terrified" is not fun, and I can understand your trepidation after catching up on your story. I hope you got your Cheviot dialed in this weekend and can head out for a little ride Monday. Not that you asked, but I would recommend riding it like your Brompton with the focus on just getting the

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith fenders?

2015-11-23 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Looks good, Tim. Last night I was reminded how much I love setting up fenders as I decided to make my fixed gear more useful with a pair of vintage Bluemels I've had lying around forever. Got the word from Rivendell that my Clementine has been shipped. ETA is a week from today, but if I get

[RBW] Re: Jingle Bell Betty

2015-11-23 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic! With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 10:11:55 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote: > > I really wanted to do something no one else would be doing around here. > Mission accomplished. > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/albums/72157661484221426 > -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Jingle Bell Betty

2015-11-23 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I think it would look a little tidier if they were internally wired... On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 12:11:55 AM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote: > > I really wanted to do something no one else would be doing around here. > Mission accomplished. > >

[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

2015-11-23 Thread islaysteve
El Sapo, Your photo shows the color well, and the color is great, IMO. Regarding indexing, you should be able to index by installing most any Shimano/SRAM compatible indexing shifter, compatible with number of rear cogs,which in your case is probably 9, but check. You will have many choices,

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Steve Palincsar
When did mandatory helmet laws enter this discussion? I didn't read the article all that closely, but the gist of it as I recall it is that the wearing of helmets was in fact effective in the cases cited. That itself has been called in question in the past, and it is worthwhile attempting to

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Ron Mc
just the wrong impact at 12 mph is enough to kill you - helmet is a no-brainer > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Will
This is what was left of the helmet that saved my wife's life. Not my opinion... the direct observation of the trauma surgeon... We still had trouble, but... On Monday, November

[RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Philip Kim
I think as more bicycles are on the road, helmets will become less necessary. I think a better way to promote bicycling is to have a traffic system where bicycles and cars don't share the same road, physically and psychologically. A lot of my friends won't ride bikes in the city for this

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Eric Norris
Well said, Steve. Nobody is suggesting mandatory helmets--on bikes, in the shower, or elsewhere. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > On Nov 23, 2015, at 5:10 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > When did mandatory helmet laws enter this

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Eric Norris
In that vein, here's a reply to the same post from a friend: "Nicely said Eric.I too wear a helmet every time I'm on my bike! I definitely advocate wearing helmets for any type of riding. I worked in transplantation for 10 years and I assure you we had several donors because of the choice not

[RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Lynne Cooney
Who can resist the helme(n)t war? I was hit by a car. My helmet was cracked in two. I had no head injury. I'm damn glad I was wearing it. But this was a road ride, where I was actually trying to keep my average speed at around 17mph for 62 miles. I'm going to wear a helmet in that case. We

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Lynne Cooney
This is just a question, not trying to stir up trouble. How many donors did you have from car occupants who also would have been saved by a helmet? On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 6:21:55 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote: > > In that vein, here's a reply to the same post from a friend: > > "Nicely

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Steve Palincsar
I disagree. I've had several crashes over the years, all due to road hazards: sand, eroded roots, potholes, cracks, black ice -- not one of which involved cars and none of which would have been mitigated in any way by having more cyclists on the road. And several people I know were involved

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Steve Palincsar
Irrelevant question. We aren't discussing whether or not one should wear a helmet while driving in a car. On 11/23/2015 09:30 AM, Lynne Cooney wrote: This is just a question, not trying to stir up trouble. How many donors did you have from car occupants who also would have been saved by a

[RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Scott G.
I don't wear a helmet, I wear a AEPMSD. AeroDynamic Expanded Polystyrene Mirror Support Device. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] centerpull recommendations for a sam.

2015-11-23 Thread Patrick Moore
My experience, which is extensive but not necessarily definitive, is that centerpulls can be as good as other types of brakes, but that they are not by any means necessarily better, and that they have been, IME, sometimes worse. IOW, the type of brake is less important than the quality of it and

[RBW] centerpull recommendations for a sam.

2015-11-23 Thread drew
so. it's nearing the holiday season. people are asking me what i want, and this is usually where i ask for bikey stuff, but currently the bikes are all in pretty good shape. not a lot to work on. no accessories needed etc. not a bad situation to be in. after consistent prodding for gift ideas,

Re: [RBW] centerpull recommendations for a sam.

2015-11-23 Thread Tim Gavin
I agree with Patrick M that centerpulls aren't necessarily going to give you better braking than sidepulls. In my experience, the braking from Paul Racers on my Riv Road/650b was just as "meh" as the braking with R559 dual-pivot sidepulls. OK, but not exceptional, on both counts (with new KS

[RBW] Re: centerpull recommendations for a sam.

2015-11-23 Thread John Hawrylak
+1 on Patrick comments. I think the Dual Pivots are the best out there for caliper types. I replaced the Dia Compes CP on my 75 Schwinn Voyaguer II with Tektro R559 (from RBW). Much better than the CPs and easy to set up. Use the $$$ some where else. John Hawrylak Woodstown On Monday,

Re: [RBW] Re: AHH Tubing Sticker on Frame

2015-11-23 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
Once upon a time, I read one of Grant's posting explaining why the identification of tubing is not as important as what many will make it out to be. Coming from a tradition of Italian racing bicycles, I cynically disagreed then, but have since come around as I read more, and learned more.

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
I do actually work in the healthcare industry (helping run clinical trials no less!). My impression of this short article and an even shorter abstract (lol) is that I cannot say the conclusion is supported one way or the other, because there simply isn't enough information and details to chew

[RBW] Re: Polished Sugino Crankset

2015-11-23 Thread Irving
The Sugino Alpina2 looks like it is still available: http://www.bikemania.biz/sugino-alpina-2-double-crankset.html On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 12:42:48 PM UTC-8, LBleriot wrote: > > A few years back, some online sellers (Velo Orange?) sold polished Sugino > XD cranksets. The same crank

[RBW] FSA 1" threaded headset

2015-11-23 Thread ltk...@hawaii.rr.com
Aloha Group: I got and am getting more involved with Rivendell because (no disrespect intended) I live in Kailua-Kona, HI home of the Ironman and capital of carbon fiber missiles that pass for bicycles. I am rebuilding an early Trek frame built with brazed Reynolds 531 DB tubing. The

Re: [RBW] Re: AHH Tubing Sticker on Frame

2015-11-23 Thread Patrick Moore
This is the second smart thing Benz has said today. The other was his remark about the helmet study. On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > > Finally, I think that Rivendell's new tubing sticker is tongue-in-cheek. > > -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: centerpull recommendations for a sam.

2015-11-23 Thread Bill Lindsay
An under-rated gift idea that most frugal people can't possibly justify themselves: a few pair of wool undies. Riv is out of the MUSAs in everything but XL but it appears they have plenty of the Devold ones. I've used both, and since trying the Devold ones maybe 4 years ago I only wear wool

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-23 Thread Kainalu
Somewhere in my digital photo morass there's a photo of albatross bars set up with the bar end style reverse levers and interrupters. I hated it. Thinking back on it, it wasn't the reverse levers that bugged me, it was how the interrupters sat on the curves. Tektro needs to make a drop bar

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-23 Thread James Warren
Do we know the crank lengths on the forthcoming Appaloosas? Is it possible they'll be slightly longer, and that's what's bringing the BB up a few millimeters - frame designed with longer cranks in mind? -James On Nov 22, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Keith > > I went ahead and

[RBW] Re: Polished Sugino Crankset

2015-11-23 Thread LBleriot
The Alpina, that's the one. Anyone have this crankset to sell? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: centerpull recommendations for a sam.

2015-11-23 Thread drew
alright, youve talked me out of it and saved my wife money. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-23 Thread Kainalu
http://problemsolversbike.com/products/cable_doubler There's a two to one and a one to two. This isn't the one I was looking at but that one was expensive and unavailable, this one's probably cheap and available. Problem solved... -Kai Brooklyn NY On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 6:51:47 PM

[RBW] New Winter Project: Another 650B conversion, thanks in part to you

2015-11-23 Thread Bill Lindsay
So I sold a few bikes to pay for a mountain bike. You guys snapped up two of my three 650B bikes, and wanted the frames, but not the wheels. So I found myself with a surplus of 650B tires, and tried to sell off some, but you hardly bought any of them. So, it was irresistible, unavoidable

[RBW] centerpull recommendations for a sam.

2015-11-23 Thread Philip Kim
Hi Drew, use to have a Sam. Ive used dia compe centerpulls, Paul racers, and tektro 559s. Dia compe were a bit mushy. Tektro 559s were easiest to set up, and I like the quick release for bigger tires. But braking power was still weak.I switched to Kool Stop, which made it better, but not as

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-23 Thread jeffrey kane
Personally, I wish the Albastache bars had been made available with a mtb lever compatibility option (like an Albatross). I've long wished the Alba's had less rise. The shapes are similar ... but a 'stache that takes an mtb lever would provide an option with half the rise (or drop if you chose

[RBW] centerpull recommendations for a sam.

2015-11-23 Thread Philip Kim
But again, a lot of riv staff bikes also have silvers. If they don't give you trouble, then keep them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] New Winter Project: Another 650B conversion, thanks in part to you

2015-11-23 Thread Dave
Sorry the list made you bill. I think I've got a stem in those extensions and live in n. Berkeley. Family's in town this week, but this weekend would work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: New Winter Project: Another 650B conversion, thanks in part to you

2015-11-23 Thread Bill Lindsay
Haha. Thanks Dave. The auction just ended, so I'm in no particular rush. Let me know if you find a stem offlist and I'll figure out how to take it off your hands. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 6:00:31 PM UTC-8, Dave wrote: > > Sorry the list made you bill. I

[RBW] Re: Jingle Bell Betty

2015-11-23 Thread Wayne Naha
Now I will have to try this with my girl's bikes. They will love it. On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 12:11:55 AM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote: > > I really wanted to do something no one else would be doing around here. > Mission accomplished. > >

[RBW] Re: No new Cheviots until December 2016!

2015-11-23 Thread Wayne Naha
Ride over ALL the sticks! That's what fat tires are for! On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 9:49:27 AM UTC-5, Lynne Cooney wrote: > > > sticks'?" ranting deleted> > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Whew, I was so afraid I would miss the annual helmet discussion... This year is no different and I am still at the same conclusion. I will continue to choose to wear my helmet (most of the time), and be grateful I have a choice to ride through town wearing only a baseball cap (and equally

[RBW] Re: No new Cheviots until December 2016!

2015-11-23 Thread Lynne Cooney
One would think the shop would actually think about how truly ridiculous it was to hand someone a bike with fat-ish tires and advise that it's not safe to ride over a stick. On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 6:59:00 AM UTC-8, Wayne Naha wrote: > > Ride over ALL the sticks! That's what fat tires

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Ron Mc
next up, the usefulness of blinkies in giving drivers an extra 30 seconds alert to your presence on the road On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 9:51:55 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > > Whew, I was so afraid I would miss the annual helmet discussion... This > year is no different and I am

[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

2015-11-23 Thread Bob Ehrenbeck
Thanks all for posting these photos! It's great to see the different colors and the various build concepts -- very inspiring! Here's a set of pictures of the build progress on my 52 grey Clem frame; it's gotten to a state where it now looks like a bike. I still need to decide on the rest of

Re: [RBW] Hope You Heal Soon

2015-11-23 Thread Braxton Colagross
Motorcycle safety groups call this the "left hook." On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 5:11:25 PM UTC-8, Matthew J wrote: > > Bad news and unfortunately all too typical. > > Left turning cars into cyclists and pedestrians who have the right or way > are the number one cause of serious injury and

[RBW] Re: No new Cheviots until December 2016!

2015-11-23 Thread Lynne Cooney
"Fastish" never happens. Never will. I ride to get places and I don't care how long it takes. In fact, I prefer that it take longer. Yes, it does have a much wider range than the Brompton, and honestly much to wide for my use. I'm probably a good candidate for a 1x setup. On Monday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Eric Norris
... Or while taking a shower. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > On Nov 23, 2015, at 6:39 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > Irrelevant question. We aren't discussing whether or not one should wear a > helmet while driving in a car. >

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-23 Thread Kainalu
About mountain style levers and interrupters, is there such a thing as an "aero" mountain brake lever, specifically one where the housing run goes under the bar tape? I've looked, and they don't appear to exist. I think the albastache looks like a great bar, and these ones even better

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Doug Williams
Quoting from the article: "As a result of their findings, Drs. Haider and Joseph said that the next step is to create injury prevention programs to increase helmet use among bicyclists, to manufacture better helmets, and to develop and enforce stricter laws for helmet use." Doug On Monday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Steve Palincsar
Fine. I did say I didn't read the article all that closely. Anyway, that's just their opinion. Their work doesn't necessarily lead to that conclusion. What's more, none of us would object to efforts to get manufacturers to make better helmets, and few would object to efforts to increase

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/23/2015 10:19 AM, Eric Norris wrote: Ok. I guess I mentally separated the results--a helmet protects your head when it hits the ground--from their suggestion that it would be a good idea to require the use of helmets. The former seems to be to be a fact-based conclusion, the latter an

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Eric Norris
Ok. I guess I mentally separated the results--a helmet protects your head when it hits the ground--from their suggestion that it would be a good idea to require the use of helmets. The former seems to be to be a fact-based conclusion, the latter an opinion. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-23 Thread EGNolan
You COULD use the bar-end "aero" brake levers like this: http://www.jensonusa.com/!1S-OnkIcQoZUhqOqYmFDTw!/Tektro-RX-41-Reverse-Brake-Levers?utm_source=FRGL_medium=organic=Cj0KEQiAj8uyBRDawI3XhYqOy4gBEiQAl8BJbWK15LEHPFsxh4qEak1Upkb3EOetXzHeyCVProE1jAIaAj9v8P8HAQ but they ain't mountain levers.

RE: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-23 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Inverse levers should work. VO currently has Tektro modern-looking ones: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/brakes/levers/tektro-rx4-1-silver-inverse-brake-levers.html They also have more vintage looking Dia-Compe versions, here:

RE: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-23 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
The Tektros come only in 23.8 diameter. The Dia-Compes come in both 23.8 and 22.2 (trad MTB). But the Dia-Compes won't pull enough cable for V-brakes (if that's what you're contemplating on your Joe App). Paul used to make an inverse lever that would pull enough for V-brakes, which you might

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Joe Broach
On Nov 23, 2015 6:16 AM, "Eric Norris" wrote: > > Well said, Steve. Nobody is suggesting mandatory helmets--on bikes, in the shower, or elsewhere. Yes they are--in the article you linked to, the paper authors are quoted "As a result of their findings, Drs. Haider and Joseph

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-23 Thread R Michaels
I'm fairly new to this but have been unable to find the Choco-stache bars you are referring to. Where can I find them? R. On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 3:43:28 PM UTC-8, BSWP wrote: > > Those are Choco-staches, if you ask me. Just a further iteration on the > 'stache bars. And nothing wrong

[RBW] Re: No new Cheviots until December 2016!

2015-11-23 Thread Joe Bernard
I don't know how you originally got set up with very little clearance between tire and fender, but that's what the "sticks" warning was about. Back in the day I had a Rivendell Romulus which I tried to fenderize to limited success..the clearance at the front caliper brake was not good. It had

[RBW] Re: No new Cheviots until December 2016!

2015-11-23 Thread Philip Kim
probably because it came with fenders. On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 9:49:27 AM UTC-5, Lynne Cooney wrote: > > "Fastish" never happens. Never will. I ride to get places and I don't care > how long it takes. In fact, I prefer that it take longer. > > Yes, it does have a much wider range than

[RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Edwin W
The way I think about it is this (supported by the article): if you get in a wreck, a helmet will probably help. Then I think of these questions: Do you think wearing a helmet when walking would make you more safe, less safe, or about the same? Do you think wearing a helmet when driving (as the

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Ron Mc
why listen to published medical facts researched and peer reviewed by the American College of Surgeons when you can make pointless analogies (rhetorical question) I would say the fact that 75% of traumatic brain injuries occurred in riders not wear helmets is alone significant even without the

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Tim Gavin
Edwin -- I agree with your suggestions, but not with the "racer" qualification. Instead of "driving/riding like a racer", I'd say "driving/riding aggressively", or more specifically "driving/riding with a reasonable suspicion of landing on one's head". Racing driving, stunt driving, etc, are

RE: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Now, now, boys and girls…. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Norris Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 10:17 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries ... Or while

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Ron Mc
it's hard to do 12 mph in the shower, but falling off one's bike is frequent enough to be a likelihood. On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 8:16:27 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote: > > Well said, Steve. Nobody is suggesting mandatory helmets--on bikes, in the > shower, or elsewhere. > > Eric N >

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Ron Mc
Been on my helmet 3 times. One flip at 18mph. All three times, my helmet protected my face and scalp from serious road rash. On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 8:37:54 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > I disagree. I've had several crashes over the years, all due to road > hazards: sand,

RE: [RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

2015-11-23 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
GREAT pic! From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of El Sapo Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 8:17 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics I had to try editing one shot On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Joe Broach
And, mea culpa, I just broke my own rule of reading the whole thread before commenting. I see others pointed this out already and didn't mean to pile on Eric. I appreciated the link. -joe in pdx Caveat lector. Sent from a phone. On Nov 23, 2015 9:00 AM, "Joe Broach" wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

2015-11-23 Thread Doug Williams
Umm...Eric...read the article again. The authors of the study recommended mandatory helmet laws. On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 6:16:27 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote: > > Well said, Steve. Nobody is suggesting mandatory helmets--on bikes, in the > shower, or elsewhere. > > Eric N >

[RBW] Re: Jingle Bell Betty

2015-11-23 Thread Lynne Cooney
Nice! On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 9:11:55 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote: > > I really wanted to do something no one else would be doing around here. > Mission accomplished. > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/albums/72157661484221426 > -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-23 Thread Tim Gavin
Kai- I was thinking about that as I chopped that picture together (where would the cable housings go?). You're correct that MTB levers leave the cable about an inch from the bar. I've never seen a flat-bar lever that has the cable exit along the bar. In order to use interrupters with MTB

[RBW] Re: FS: Waterford Rivendell Road Standard/Custom

2015-11-23 Thread Ryan Fleming
I think it is a 1996/1997 and the $1350 asking price is about the same as it was then (1.2-1.35K). Nice as the frame is,I don't believe it's a custom and $1350 might be a big ask... On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 6:56:31 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote: > > Nice looking bike. You can date it by

[RBW] Polished Sugino Crankset

2015-11-23 Thread LBleriot
A few years back, some online sellers (Velo Orange?) sold polished Sugino XD cranksets. The same crank today comes with polished arms, but with matte aluminum chainrings. Does anyone have a polished crankset that they'd be willing to sell? -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Jingle Bell Betty

2015-11-23 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado
Now That's getting into the holiday spirit. Great memories for the kids..and the grown-up kids. Thanks for sharing! > >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] So darn close...

2015-11-23 Thread Zach Duval
After spending my morning trying to fit a pair of Surly Knards (650BX41, low-profile knobbies) under VO Zeppelin fenders on my Sam, unsuccessfully, I'm a bit flummoxed. I was really looking forward to this as a winter set-up for lighter commute rides. Anyone think this combo could work with

Re: [RBW] So darn close...

2015-11-23 Thread Tim Gavin
I found that Paul Racers have better fender + tire clearance than Silver/R559 long-reach sidepulls. Especially since the sidepull arms push down on the fender when the brake is open/released. However, the front Racer caliper doesn't open/release very far, even with short pads that don't hit the

[RBW] Re: So darn close...

2015-11-23 Thread Zed Martinez
Got any calipers around to measure how big those Knards are with the knobbies? Be interested to know if they'd fit under my P55s on my Clem as wintery tires. On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 3:48:33 PM UTC-5, Zach Duval wrote: > > After spending my morning trying to fit a pair of Surly Knards

[RBW] Re: So darn close...

2015-11-23 Thread Philip Kim
Zach, I've fit 650bx43 Bruce Gordons with fenders with SKS fenders and Paul Racers. These have more tire clearance than the Tektro 559s I'm assuming you're using. I'll take a pic tonight of how I modified the fender to fit. Pretty easy to do with a hacksaw. The Sheldon fender nuts also help.

Re: [RBW] So darn close...

2015-11-23 Thread Brian Campbell
I would try a set of MAFAC Raid's before I spent the $$ on the Pauls. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] So darn close...

2015-11-23 Thread Zach Duval
Mafac Raids aren't cheap these days either... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Polished Sugino Crankset

2015-11-23 Thread Garth
Are you positive it was the XD ? VO sold the Alpina/Cospea . http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2008/07/suginos-best.html The Alpina 2 is what is for sale these days, it's obviosly different but in what way besides rings I do not know. On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 3:42:48 PM UTC-5,

[RBW] Re: So darn close...

2015-11-23 Thread Zach Duval
I'don't love to see/read how you did it. Thanks! After putting the rear tire on first, I was quite optimistic. The front is the only place I have rubbing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

RE: [RBW] Re: Polished Sugino Crankset

2015-11-23 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I have that Alpina crank on my Hilsen – it's a beauty. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Garth Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 4:35 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Polished Sugino Crankset Are you positive it was the XD ?