Thanks Ed. I agree that the Hunq is a comfy ride for sure. I love it.
My pic is a few replies back from here. Build is:
XT 1x11
165mm XT cranks
XT hydros with 203/180 rotors
Thomson setback
Loop bars
Selle Anatomica Titanico X
Velocity Dually with Hope Fatsno Evo 4 front and XT rear
Love this machine:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTMjL1oA-qM/
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Hi Geeter,
Sorry to hear that you have to go thru surgery because of your disc
issues. I just got lucky that I only required rest, therapy and visits to
a chiropractor to help me recover. After my slip disc recovery, I actually
felt better riding my Hunqapillar versus walking. There is
Ed, I bought a Hunq and now built the Jones because of my disc issues. I
recently had a microdiscectomy/laminectomy on L5/S1 and I really want to
continue riding all day like I used to. I am considering selling my road
and cross bikes for good because I don't know when or if I will want to
I have not ridden the Hunq, but it was my Jones Plus that set me on the path to
Rivendell. In 2015, I rode most of the Great Divide route on a Salsa Fargo. It
was okay, but even the XL frame was not a great fit for me, given the long days
in the saddle. Last year I built up a Jones Plus and
Thanks Philip! :-)
This is coming from a Riv rider transitioning from
51 Atlantis (Albatross, used in my 2016 TransAm) ---> 55 Cheviot
(Albatross, but too big) ---> 50 Cheviot (Albatross, good fit) ---> 48
Hunqapillar (ahearne bars, perfect fit) :-)
On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Philip Kim
Glad to hear you are enjoying it Ed! The ahearne bars are great for that bike!
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Hello Keith,
Thank you for taking time for giving your experience and recommendation on
the spaceframe. The stable ride of the plus and vertical compliance
without the use of suspension made me seriously consider the Jones frame.
I recently bought my 48 Hunqapillar from Philip for my do it all
Ed, forgive me for interjecting and for not directly answering your
question, but I wanted to say that if Jeff and you think that the 23"
spaceframe will fit, you are extremely lucky and should consider it.
I have the regular spaceframe in the equivalent of the next size up, and
could not
Nice! Yes the ahearne bars are awesome. I've been messaging dstein back and
forth as we're the same size. I think a 24" will fit but not sure I would buy
one yet
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Hi Philip,
I would appreciate if you could provide feedback on how the 24" Jones Plus
fits you.
I sent them an email on their sizing recommendation based on my 5' 5"
height and 79cm pbh and they suggested a Jones 23" Spaceframe Plus 148 TA.
PS
I finished building up your 48 Hunqapillar and used
Tubed for me, though I can't see how it would affect this, if I was running
the same pressure.
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
> It's really interesting how different the experiences are with similar
> equipment... Eric I'm definitely getting what you
It's really interesting how different the experiences are with similar
equipment... Eric I'm definitely getting what you describe. Did you go
tubeless or tubed?
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I had the exact same experience with 2.35" Big Ones on a 45mm Scraper rim.
Very jerky, digital steering. Put 3" knobbies back on and all was well.
Eric
On Thursday, May 18, 2017, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
> Philip we need to catch up for coffee and get you on my 24" Jones Plus
>
I am using the 2.35” G-Ones on RaceFace ARC 45’s. I run them tubeless. Honestly
I felt that the 3” maxis chronicles I have on there are too squirmy and handled
poorly on pavement (particularly downhill) but mostly because they’re run at
such a low pressure (10 psi). On this second wheelset w/
Philip we need to catch up for coffee and get you on my 24" Jones Plus
sometime soon. I'm around next week, hit me up off list if you want to
give it a try.
David are you using the 2.35" G-Ones on your Jones Plus? I have the
Schwable 'Big Ones' 2.35" slicks on mine right now and I'm not a fan.
ahh great info thanks! emailed jones and they said it's fine, but they
pointed me towards the spaceframe if i had any concerns. glad the 24" plus
fits well. might be a good 27+ candidatE?
On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 1:02:57 PM UTC-4, dstein wrote:
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> I have a 48cm hunq and a 24" jones plus.
I have a 48cm hunq and a 24" jones plus. The hunq was my 'original' mtn
bike, now the jones isfits fine. it's so well designed that it doesn't
feel that big when you're in it at all, but if you look at it it is huge,
especially compared to my small hunq with 26" wheels. the only times it
any smaller riders on a jones?
having rode a 48cm Hunq, curious how the jones fits, as well as if the 29+
wheels are too big.
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Nice! I just got some g-ones for my jones and love them. A little slippery
on one ride i went on recently but otherwise do fantastic on the roads and
most other trails. Happy riding.
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Geeter wrote:
> Built! Ride report in the near future!
>
>
>
Will do!
On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 6:42:16 PM UTC-5, dstein wrote:
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> Awesome, excited to see the spaceframe built up and hear how you like it.
>
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Geeter
> wrote:
>
>> To revive my old thread, I love my Hunq. I also decided to sell my
Awesome, excited to see the spaceframe built up and hear how you like it.
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Geeter wrote:
> To revive my old thread, I love my Hunq. I also decided to sell my
> titanium hardtail (it is available!) and get a spaceframe. I will update
> when I
To revive my old thread, I love my Hunq. I also decided to sell my
titanium hardtail (it is available!) and get a spaceframe. I will update
when I get the build going!
On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 7:18:45 PM UTC-6, Christopher Cote wrote:
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> I just may take you up on that offer!
>
> On
I just may take you up on that offer!
On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 7:56:42 PM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote:
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> 25" steel 135 rear 150 front titanium forked Rohloff modded Plus in
> Northern VT open for test rides.
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Holy Daniel! That sounds like the dream bike!
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> On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Daniel Jackson
> wrote:
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> 25" steel 135 rear 150 front titanium forked Rohloff modded Plus in Northern
> VT open for test rides.
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I'd love to ride a Jones Plus, too. I'm in Baltimore. Anyone with a Plus
nearby? I also get up to the NE pretty often, and I'll be in Exeter, NH for a
week this June. I contacted Jeff to see if he knows if any demos are 'round
these parts, but it doesn't look good based on the searches I've
I'm in southern Maine, near Portland. Too far from Ohio, but thanks anyway.
Yeah, the front hub on the Jones 135 is unnerving. At least there's a few
150mm hub options and an increasing supply of fat bikes out there to
support that standard. It's the 148 on the new bike that worries me.
On
Where are you located? There's a tiny chance someone has a Jones near
you... you're welcome to test ride my 25" Plus model, if you're near
Central Ohio.
Regarding hub standards, the older QR Jones uses a 142mm through axle
*front* disc spaced hub on the front fork. Good luck finding one of those
The Stache to me feels much like my Krampus of days past. See above for my
comparison of Krampus and Jones Plus.
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I'm sure it would be, if that's what effect lowering the trail has. I just
don't know. There's no dealer for Jones anywhere near here, and finding one
to try is not likely to happen. It's a big investment to buy one just to
find out. That's why I'm posting here, to learn from Jones owners.
On
I'm sure it would be.
On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 3:37:28 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
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>
>
> On 12/21/2016 03:34 PM, Christopher Cote wrote:
> > Thanks for the response! I haven't ridden a low trail bike, so I
> > really can't say how trail influences the ride. I do know exactly
On 12/21/2016 03:34 PM, Christopher Cote wrote:
Thanks for the response! I haven't ridden a low trail bike, so I
really can't say how trail influences the ride. I do know exactly what
you're saying about the trail effects of fat tires, though. By the
numbers, my Wednesday already has well
Thanks for the response! I haven't ridden a low trail bike, so I really
can't say how trail influences the ride. I do know exactly what you're
saying about the trail effects of fat tires, though. By the numbers, my
Wednesday already has well over 100mm of trail. Add the extremely low tire
I'm curious to find out if anybody has a ride comparison between the Jones
and a Trek Stache or a Niner Ros 9+, which are bikes I have ridden. I find
both those to be quite playful on the singletrack and just all around fun
bikes. I'm curious how the long chainstays feel riding singletrack with
Christopher,
*Regarding the low trail of the Jones:*
Don't let this worry you. One of the reasons he designs it this way is
precisely because his bikes have always intended to use fatter tires than
the rest of the industry. The low trail geometry compensates for the
mysterious but very real
This is a timely thread for me. I've been considering a Jones Plus. I
definitely want a bike that fits 29x3" tires. I was considering the
Krampus, but Jeff Jones' designs and fit philosophy really meshes with my
experiences. I have a Surly Wednesday fat bike that I bought to ride on the
snow,
Bill, I rode a friend's 25" Jones Plus on singletrack, and it felt fine, but
larger than I needed. I'm 5'11" with a 76cm SH, and would definitely go for the
24". Fun bike. Also have a Hunqa. Different for sure! Jones is more dirt
oriented, but you strangely sit straight up on it. It feels like
I have a regular 29 Jones spaceframe, and can't comment on the Plus other
than to extrapolate (Jeff intended the two bikes - 24" Plus is equivalent
to the 23" 29 - to encourage/accommodate the same fit and riding position).
I'm 6'-2" with proportionally long torso / short legs.
Regarding
Splendid. I think I get it. Since I'm smack dab in the middle of the
range of heights for a medium, I'll take a wild guess that Jeff would put
me on a medium. ;-)
It's a fantastically cool bike, from my perspective. If I buy one someday,
I'll be sure to ride one first and/or talk to Jeff.
Bill,
I talked to Jeff about it. He asked for my PBH and height. He knew what to put
me on.
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Eric explained how the Jones designs accommodates a range of riders in a
single size, and Geeter pointed out that there's a Small (23") to go with
the Medium (24") and the Large (25").
That's all very good, but still not what I was asking. I was asking how
one chooses a size or how Jones
There was some discussion on MTBR in regards to truss vs unicrown. Believe
consensus was that there is slightly better breaking performance on the
Truss due to less flex but that the unicrown is more than adequate.
On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 8:11:32 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
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> For
Glen, a 26x5" (4.3" actual) wheel fits in the front. But that wheel, from my
Pugsley needs special, custom-made washers (thanks pal Eric Liefeld, CEO of
Liefeld Fabrications Inc) to make the 135mm hub fit in the weird 142mm Jones'
spacing. My primary complaint about the JP is the weird front
For those of you with a Plus, can you run it with really fat 27.5 or 26
wheels as a snow bike?
Mojo, have you ridden technical single track (Fruita or Moab) on it and if
so how did it do?
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All this talk makes me feel that getting rid of my Jones may be a mistake.
(shameless plug for current sale ;) I don't ride the Plus and the Diamond 29
only comes in a 23". When spending this amount of money on a bike and being
told one size (or two) fits a range, it's hard not to be
Bill, Jones now has a 23" spaceframe plus for riders too short for the 24" plus.
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Bill asked more specifically about the Jones fit.
I think there's two things that let the Jones fit a wide variety of sizes:
- the seat tube is very slack, so a taller rider moves back more,
increasing reach
- the Jones H bar allow a big range of reach adjustment, so lots of room to
find a
I have the 24" and am on the short side at 5'7" and it fits great. Never
thought twice about it once I got it (and I way overthought it before
ordering, and was put off by this the longest time till I rode someones
Jones). This is from a dirtrag article, I'm sure Jeff has some blurb
somewhere as
I've wondered the same thing in regards to how does one individual fit
themselves to a Jones bike.
I don't have any experience with BMX bikes (or the Jones for that matter) but
rode 26" wheel Schwinn cruisers for years.
Several of my friends rode them as well.
There was over 12" difference in
Eric reported:
"I'm 6'3", 36" PBH, and fit quite well on a 25" Jones Plus (now "Jones
Large"). It's one of the most comfortable bikes I've owned, maybe THE most
comfortable."
Thanks for responding. It's very good that you are comfortable on your
Jones Plus, but I was asking more about fit
Bill, I wrote a JP review back in July 2015.
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/internet-bob/v92_t69-FYQ
I am 72.5 inches tall with an 89 PBH. I like my 25 inch Jones Plus. It is big
for me but that hasn't caused any problems for me. Jeff Jones of similar height
chooses the 24 but rides
Bill L asked: who fits on a Jones
I'm 6'3", 36" PBH, and fit quite well on a 25" Jones Plus (now "Jones
Large"). It's one of the most comfortable bikes I've owned, maybe THE most
comfortable.
I've had my Jones for almost a year. Here's a mid point write up:
To the Jones Plus lovers: How does "fitting" work? The glaringly obvious
difference between the Jones Plus and the Hunqapillar on-paper is that the
Jones comes in two sizes and the Hunqapillar comes in ELEVEN. What PBH
ranges can ride a Jones Plus? I'm probably fine because I'm a 5'10" man
Daniel and Joe--
Yeah, it seems like a Jones Plus may be in my future! Going to have to
pinch some pennies for that day to come, though--maybe by next fall unless
a used one shows up somewhere (unlikely). Luckily, the Krampus may not
stand up when A-B'd with the Jones Plus, but it's still a
I'll jump in here. I have ridden the Jones Plus for 18 months and a Krampus for
an afternoon. There is no comparison. The Jones' handling is fast and nimble.
It climbs like no other bike. The Jones has numerous design features that work
together for its unique (to me) handling. The shallow head
Dear Bob,
I transitioned from a Krampus to my Plus. The similarity between the two
ends at the 29+ platform. The Plus is a mature, well thought out design
with geometry optimized for the large footprint; the Krampus is a 29er with
a yoke designed to clear 3" tires - nothing more. Where the
Hi Geeter,
Unsure of what you mean here by "hold up to the Hunq as a commuter." I
could see you might mean:
1. Handle luggage - I disagree. The Jones definitely handles several types
of loads with applomb and, because of its front end geometry, I beloeve
actually handles a front load better
On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 6:31:19 PM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
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> Clayton and Daniel - thanks! Both of your responses just make me want to
> get out and test ride a Jones sometime soon... I found a semi-local shop
> that actually has a diamond frame for rent so I think i'll be able
I wish I could get my mitts on a Jones Plus for a test ride! I love my
new-to-me Krampus, but I can't help but feel like the Jones is my grail
bike. I keep hearing and reading that it essentially defies categorization
in all the right ways. I also hear that it's fantastic for long rides, on
or off
On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 6:31:19 PM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Clayton and Daniel - thanks! Both of your responses just make me want to
> get out and test ride a Jones sometime soon... I found a semi-local shop
> that actually has a diamond frame for rent so I think i'll be able
Another factor I have been considering, as Daniel mentions, is the tech
differences between the two. The Riv would surely be a much easier bike to
fix on the fly and cheaply if necessary. The EBB, 135 or 150 front hub
(and boost rear of the new plus), thru axles all have their purpose but I
Thanks for the feedback thus far. My one issue with the Jones is that I
don't believe it will hold up to the Hunq as a commuter. As an all day
riding bike on mixed terrain, without technical riding, I suppose they each
have their advantages.
On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 2:00:43 PM UTC-6,
I have both:
- a 26" 48cm hunqapillar with either 2.1" smart sams or rat trap pass
tires and albastache bars (have tried a MAP and Jones bars on it though)
used as an allrounder, camping, and mixed ride bike
- and a steel jones 29er diamond frame w/ truss fork and carbon jones
Clayton and Daniel - thanks! Both of your responses just make me want to
get out and test ride a Jones sometime soon... I found a semi-local shop
that actually has a diamond frame for rent so I think i'll be able to make
that happen in the somewhat near future. Daniel your notes about Grant's
I want to see the BJ
On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 8:54:36 PM UTC-5, Clayton.sf wrote:
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> All purpose riding with commuting and errands mixed in I would bike the
> Hunq.
>
> Mountainbiking, bike packing, and even touring where you don't unload and
> reload the bike multiple times a day I
Dear Geeter,
I have a Plus and a Hunq. I love both machines.
The Jones is a far more capable machine overall on a variety of terrain.
Rider placement, positioning and responsiveness place it in a different
category than the Hunqapillar. Despite its extraordinary wheelbase and
extremely large
my mountain biking friends would say the 29er or the plus is a 'real'
mountain bike by todays standards, technical trails, etc etc
the hunq isnt really.
i dont know.
On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:00:43 PM UTC-5, Geeter wrote:
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> Just curious if anyone on the board has a Jones 29er or Plus
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