[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

Thanks for the input. I’ve never used either much, and I’ve been riding single speed an awful lot the past few years, so I think I’d lean toward downtube shifting for the simplicity of it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

Bones, I just took the front bar-end silver shifter off the bar (Shimano) and put it on the down tube, where the front shifter already was...it honestly feels like it shifts better, for whatever reason, and it's just so nice on the Roadini to have the bars less messy. My vote is downtube! On

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

Mike: Yeah, it didn't look right to me when I first tried to put it all together, either. I didn't find a washer for you but I'm glad I could steer you in the right direction. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

I run XO shifters on the IRD quill stem mount. They work just fine. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 9:04:21 AM UTC-7, Bones wrote: > > Semi-related: anyone have any luck mounting the new silver 2 shifters to a > quill stem shifter mount? When I called Riv they weren’t

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

Semi-related: anyone have any luck mounting the new silver 2 shifters to a quill stem shifter mount? When I called Riv they weren’t sure, I guess they haven’t tried that yet. They mentioned that the older silver shifters work fine that way though. I’m contemplating doing downtube shifters or

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters on Shimano barend pods

Thank you Joe, that is exactly the information I needed. Besides the tab not fitting anywhere I thought the big washer was too thin and just set it aside, but now I see that is not the case. I think I should be able to cut and file the tab off pretty cleanly, and will be all set. If that

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 Shifters - Install Question

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Yes, I am still here. You probably remember me from the back and forth on my Rivendell Mountain and some of the possible changes in the build I was requesting or from sending you a box of Shimano down tube shifters. Still keeping up on things. Look forward to the final product that is the

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Reginald! You're still around! I associate you with my garage and holding my then toddler old Anna like a football when trying to work...that was your era. Thanks for hanging in! On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 1:37 PM, R. Alexis wrote: > Those shifters look nice. Look forward to

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Those shifters look nice. Look forward to seeing how the final product will look. I will definitely get a couple sets. I would get the current Silver V.1 shifters, but It has just been within the last couple years that I mounted the Suntour Sprint, shifters on my Schwinn Voyageur so I don't see

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Rivendell does not have me on commission, but trust that they are way nicer to me than I deserve. On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 3:43:35 PM UTC-8, WETH wrote: > > Lindsaysorry Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I, too, think I signed up and have received no update, so you are not alone. I also just bought a pair of the original Silver Shifters. I think Bill Lindsey should get a commission! ;). I look forward to learning first hand what the fuss is about. -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Same here. I assume when there's news we'll hear about it. Grant did mention that delivery was a ways off. dougP On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 10:04:29 AM UTC-8, Pondero wrote: > > I think I signed up properly for the email updates. But I haven't received > any updates yet, so I'm not

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I think I signed up properly for the email updates. But I haven't received any updates yet, so I'm not sure. I don't want to miss any news, and I want to make sure to get at least one pair from the initial release. Just as a check, has anyone else received email updates? Chris Johnson Sanger,

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

The pricing of Silver parts and kits is "non-strategic" and is supposed to be person-friendly, so you don't feel like a bad money-manger for buying components separately. A critic could see the whole shebang price as not offering any discount, but we go at it from the other way. It's hard to apply

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I have used them as DT, Noodle, Alba, and Moustache bar ends. They are fantastic shifters and so good looking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Thanks for the details Bill, Lee, Dave and masmojo. I picked up the kit. Looking forward to some smooth shifting. Paul in ATL On Friday, November 4, 2016 at 4:42:08 PM UTC-4, Lee Legrand wrote: > > Bill is right. > > That is what happened when I order the kit. The shifters and pods were >

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Bill is right. That is what happened when I order the kit. The shifters and pods were added to the kit list but they all had zero dollars, except the kit. I get mine Monday. On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Dave, > > Not exactly true. You do need a

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Dave, Not exactly true. You do need a different shifter washer thingy for bar-end setup vs downtube setup, but when you buy the kit, you get BOTH. Put item #17089 in your basket and you will see what I mean. When you buy the bar-end KIT in your basket, all it does it put a set of downtube

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

If you buy the bar end kit you should buy the "little travel stop washer thingy " to go along with it for downtube use. Riv sells that piece separately. It is round with a tab that stick out and a square hole that fits over your frame boss. On 11/4/16, masmojo wrote: > A

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

A few things: First, yes the bar end Silver Shifters are basically the same thing as the downtube shifters, with the bar end pods. But,it should be noted that, the bar end pod replaces the little travel stop washer thingy that cones with the Silver Shifters when ordered in the downtube

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Yes. When you buy the bar end kit, you get a set of downtube shifters and a set of bar end pods. Note that the downtube shifters are $46, and the bar end pod are $38. $46+$38 = $84, and the bar end kit is $84. It's the same parts. On Friday, November 4, 2016 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-7, Paul

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Can anyone confirm that if I buy the barend kit, I can still install the levers on the downtube if I wanted? I think I read something like that at some point, but can't find it again to confirm. I've got downtube bosses on my bikes already but might need to dig up a cable stops for one of

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

It must be the salt; mine are still as new-looking after 2+ years (dry desert climate). Patrick Moore, in ABQ, NM where it is raining this morning. On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 8:44 AM, lum gim fong wrote: > These shifters are great. The only downside I have experienced is

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

These shifters are great. The only downside I have experienced is that after two years the finish is starting to get a little pockmarked with corrosion. I feel like that's a little early for that to be happening.however I do ride on dry salted winter roads sometimes during the winter. Maybe

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I just ordered a pair. I probably got the last one. On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Edwin W wrote: > They are just so durned good looking I am trying to figure out where I > could put them! Ornamentation! > Might try a single stem shifter on my 1x8 Appaloosa. > > Bill

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

They are just so durned good looking I am trying to figure out where I could put them! Ornamentation! Might try a single stem shifter on my 1x8 Appaloosa. Bill (and anyone else): What are good options for mounting a single one on a nitto stem? On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 3:20:42 PM UTC-5,

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

On October 28th, there were 73 pairs of Silver 1 shifters remaining. Now there are 64. At a sell-rate of about 10 per week, they'll be gone by Christmas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

RE: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Silver Bindlestiff's Toothpick. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

1. Since RBW is into calling their bikes . " hobo bikes". How about calling the shifter "___'s toothpick"? Name your favorite hobo in the blank space. 2. Since RBW is into calling their bikes . " Country bikes". How about calling the shifter "___'s toothpick"? Use your favorite

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I use them on bumpy dirt roads over a home-made (ie, ignore the ramps; it's a 15-30)) 9 speed cassette, and they are wonderful -- better than the old Power Ratchets, IME. On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Lee Legrand wrote: > Hey Bill, > > Does the silver shifters work on a 9

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I agree with Reed. Silver downtube shifters are great with 9 speed. That doesn't guarantee you will love them. I find operating a downtube shifter is about as hard as tying ones shoes. It's pretty easy. Some people run Velcro shoes anyway and some people insist on index. I know how to tie my

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Hey Lee, I (and many others here) run friction with these shifters and nine speeds with great aplomb. In fact, I have a set on a bike with a ten speed cassette and it seems to work even *better* there! More on that if you're curious:

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Hey Bill, Does the silver shifters work on a 9 speed cog cassette? I have heard that 9 speed change using a friction shifter is too much. What are your thoughts? On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Yes that looks like the Silver 1. Riv got told that

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Yes that looks like the Silver 1. Riv got told that the casting mold was worn out, and so Riv would have to buy a new one. That's why Riv designed the Silver2 THIMBLE. If the manufacturer was telling the truth and the mold really is used up, then presumably the Silver1 shifters will start to

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Is this the same thing as the Silver 1? Gotta love the Silver 1. I might have to get an extra couple if they are going out of production all together. Maybe Dia-Compe will keep it going?

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

RBW's laughing at yas! Gamin' on yas! On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 2:08:31 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > The BLUG has a long write up and description of the Silver 2 shifters. > One big take home is the Silver 1 shifter mold is shot, so those will be > going away. So, if you love

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Oh modern earnestness! It took me in. On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > The Pantaloon screwhead was...not serious. I'd never even heard about it > until I googled "unusual screw heads" or something like that. D-ring and > slot, and the slot is

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

My Silvers Version 1 (mounted on bar end pods) do loosen, as do so many other shifters I've used including the archetypal Power . Me, I used Blue Loctite and button head allen screws, and put the D ring screws in my bin of small spare parts. OTOH, my Simplex Retrofictions -- very fine ratchets

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Ahahaahahahhaha !!! thanks for the laughs Grant ! Yeah, that woud be right there with a diagascrew or a bombahead , the list of odd screws, real or not could be endless . . . . . ahahahahahaaha !!! On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 12:28:55 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > The

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Phew! Existential crisis averted. :) The virtual communication problem of no facial/voice cues making humor hard to spot strikes again! Julian Westerhout Bloomington, IL On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 11:28:55 AM UTC-5, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > The Pantaloon screwhead was...not

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

The Pantaloon screwhead was...not serious. I'd never even heard about it until I googled "unusual screw heads" or something like that. D-ring and slot, and the slot is sized for a dime. On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 6:08:28 AM UTC-7, Dave Johnston wrote: > > Pentelope? Does that mean I can't

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Either the shifter stays put or it does not. If the chain is really off a bit you can hear it, but a good shifter should still not autoshift easily , a not as good shifter apparently, will. I have not seen the ratchet inside of a Silver shifter to compare with the ST DT version. As I

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Grant, I'm another voice against the pentalobe idea. No other fastener on the bike uses it, it will require a special tool just for the shifter, making maintenance a pain - there's not really a reason to do this, other than theft, perhaps, and if you're still using a D-ring than that's moot.

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Pentelope? Does that mean I can't tighten without a special tool if it loosens on the road? That would be a bad idea. Cyclists have been using the slot and D-ring for decades with no major confusion. -Dave On 10/23/16, Grant Petersen wrote: > This is an early version of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

This is an early version of the tightener screw. I'm not sure I like the options it provides--rather confusing. The current one has a pentalobe head (google it until we get the newer version up there). On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > I hope they keep

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I hope they keep the D rings. So convenient for on the bike tightening!! No screwdriver necessary!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I love my Silver Shifters. But an LBS says the ratchet ain't strong enough and they autoshift too much. Says the originals they are based on ( I think those are the ones ) stay put better. I might try them sometime. I do get some autoshifts, but cannot say exactly why, thought I think it is

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Well, I am done with downtube shifters. I have one bike with downtube shifters, and that's going to change when these SS2's become available. Even back in the day I was never all that enamored of them, and now I just can't even deal. If you love 'em, more power to ya, bro, but they are not

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I wholeheartedly agree with Patrick, downtube shifting has it's place despite all the other options out there now. I prefer DT shifters when using drop bars, despite being 6' and riding largish (62-64cm) frames. I like the much simpler cable routing and find that downtube shifting induces

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

"Would it be a mistake to try and use this shifter for a 10speed rear cassette? " Now that's an interesting question. My experience with "10 speeds" is limited to 2 x 5 drivetrains. BUT there are people friction shifting 10 speed cogs, & others not liking friction on 8 or 9. The ratchet may

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Don't carry this line of thought too far! Steel, hand-built wheels, wool clothing, friction shifting, leather shoes, fixed drivetrains, lugged frames, -- you can go on and on about technology that one could argue is in its twilight. There are good reasons for downtube shifters that remain

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I like the direction Grant's going & I don't think I am wrong in saying the the bike industry is swiftly moving away from downtube shifters and I am guessing they are not relevant at all on contemporary bikes. So, then I am guessing that the majority of people who like the old style are

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Thanks! I have about three boxes of small parts and the one shifter I found doesn't have that washer, although I'm sure it's in there somewhere. Other than that, everything is identical to the one posted. On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 1:42:14 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: > > > Chris, as far

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

David, I have both the original thumbies from 1983 and some later 1985 XC models, these have a fairing on the mount and the ends are rubber coated, very nice ! I also have both the Sprint and Superbe DT ones. Interestingly, the thumb ones have a 20mm ratchet inside, the DT ones are

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Chris, as far as I know 1983 was the(pics below) first year of the ST Power thumb shifters, all said "Suntour Power Thumb Shifter Pat." on the top of the washer. The top hand screw adjusts the tension. Being a bit stiff of the bike is not an indicator of anything as even brand news are

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

If it clicks, it has a power ratchet. The ratcheting mechanism in the originals is the same as the original bar-ends, which is to say that the Silver 2 shifters will have a more refined ratcheting mechanism than the original Suntour shifters. I can't remember off the top of my head, but there

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I think Bill Lindsay was making a kind offer to buy and hold a backup set of the V1 shifters for me. It's nice to know the Walnut Creek Gang has my back. Call me a crank, but I just hate when good things are "improved" out of their original purpose. Ah well. Progress. On Friday, October

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Patrick, Who is whom talking to? Are you asking about Bill Lindsay's post about buying and holding? If so, I think, (but am not positive), that he is responding to LBleriot's (whoever that is) posts lamenting the end of the road for Silvers V1. It does get a bit confusing in the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Did Suntour have a thumbshifter in the 83-84 timeframe that doesn't have the power ratchet or whatever it's called? I have a set of levers with "the band" that came off an 83 MTB (that I miss) but I never made the connection that they might have that mechanism. They click smoothly in one

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I believe they look like a "Goose Neck". No offense, or vote intended, just saying. I do like the alliterative nature of the "THIMBLE THUMBIE" though. On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 7:12:20 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > If now and then or from the start we call them Thimble

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I have been on this forum since 2012 and I have now come to the conclusion that Bill is either Grant Petersen incognito here on the forum, or RBW's #1 fan.

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Since there are 80 sets of the originals on the shelf, it seems like a good time to buy a back up set, since you like them that much. If you'd rather not risk the $46, I'll buy an extra set and put your name on them. If you need them, let me know. I promise I'll save them until they are my

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

If now and then or from the start we call them Thimble Shifters---if we or I EVER do--Ryan gets a free pair. Since 'tis the season for voting, the polls are open till Saturday at 10 o'clock California time. Silver THIMBLES The SILVER part is alredy in the genes. That's the brand. Model would be

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I like the old down tube style ones and the new thimble ones. Both are nice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

It's all good, but for me the originals epitomized an "ah, brilliant!" moment you guys are known for. The replacements, for me, for my use, for my style of riding not so much. On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 10:49:52 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > Downtube shifters are so much

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Good to know that the Dia Compes are still available. On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 7:12 AM, David Banzer wrote: > For those who still want the traditional downtube shifter shape, Dia Compe > makes them with the same ratcheting friction internals as Silver shifters. > It's

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

For those who still want the traditional downtube shifter shape, Dia Compe makes them with the same ratcheting friction internals as Silver shifters. It's cosmetically a little different, but functionally it's the same shifter. I'd guess this is a little bit why Riv is making something new

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Downtube shifters are so much better than the original Campy shifters that were mounted on the seat stays. But even they were breakthroughs for the time--for the first time ever, a rider should shift remotely. We have a bike here with those "Cambio Corsa" shifters, and anybody who comes by can try

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

For the downtube you could always get the ENE Ciclo Gran Compe Downtube Shifters. I think they look cooler and they haven't been made for 17 yrs so presumable the mold isn't near wearing out. http://store.somafab.com/enecidosh.html Hard to believe we have choices in new friction shifters.

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Bill--Actually, I do think I get the point. My friends at Riv decided to change the shape of the shifter in light of the fact that the original mold has worn out. They could have simply made a new mold in the shape of the original which, I believe, is optimized for DT mounting and more than

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I agree that they will make only makeshift dt shifters -- too bad. Me, I like the shape of the old ones for bar end shifting too, but for that purpose, the new ones will work at least as well. On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:45 PM, LBleriot wrote: > Meh. I can't get excited

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

LBleriot missed the point of what to get excited about. Rivendell still has 82 sets of Silver 1's. The only reason a lover of Silver 1's should get excited is that the BLUG post makes clear that the old mold no longer exists. If that bums you out or freaks you out, you should treat

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Meh. I can't get excited about this version since it seems that given the new shape DT mounting is an afterthought. To my eye, these are thumbies and would look silly on a Ram, Rom, Homer or Roadeo DT. On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 2:08:31 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > The BLUG has a

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

As for durability of the shifters, if they are as good as the original they should be great. I still use the original ST thumbies that came with my '83 Stumpjumper on one bike and another pair on the Bombadil, they both work as great as great can be. I agree with Grant that you gotta wonder

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Funny how "old" stuff keeps getting re-done ! I still use ST thumbies and have since they came out on the early 80's. Yep, this design is best for thumbies. This improves on the ST clamp design in a major way, win-win ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

The new shape looks especially elegant. I can see a pair of these on the upright bars on my Atlantis. That old Suntour ratchet provides just the right tactile feedback while still working with any number of speeds. I still have an ancient pair of Bar-Cons that work perfectly after decades of

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I put myself on the email list and will be getting at least two pairs of these for sure! Not that I really need them so much, but just for putting that money up for their effort, it's a good effort and I don't want things like this to go away. I suppose one pair will replace the thumbies that