If you had told them about the upright bars, they would have loaded you on
a lumbering city bike with 900-g tires and 3-speed SA at best. When you
buy 10,000 widgets at a time, you can't afford for your customers to be
individualists - what, they think they're special? You want your bike to
Find this whole conversation interesting. While I consider any tire 38mm
too skinny to ride, a number of friends are now at the point where anything
under 50mm is too skinny. Guess I could say that tastes change and people
adapt.
And that line of thinking is starting to make more sense to me.
I rode 30 country miles yesterday on 32s at 55/60 psi and thought they
were great. when I look at 28s these day I wonder who in the world can
be comfy on something like that. I used to ride 23s and 25s all the
time. You know, beofre I started to just ride.
I think your Rivs are too big for
It's very easy to walk into a bike shop and get fitted for a bike - they
have a machine for that, and the guy in the shop is an expert and he has
opinions. He's also plugged into the system and he sells it. Her purchase
is the normal outcome of looking for a bike that fits. The good news is
I'm very happy someone found the means to buy a new bike that satisfies them.
My hope is that they enjoy it!
Live, let live and just ride.
-Justin
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I know plenty of people astride NASA carbon and 23s who enjoy riding
possibly more than I do.
They wear dress loafers to the beach. I wear flip flops in the rain. We
still enjoy a beer together.
Any Bike No Bike, Spice of Life, Ape Shall Not Kill Ape, etc.
Jeff Hagedorn
San Diego, CA USA
A lot of people are trying to apply reverse snobbery to this discussion
where it doesn't exist. Whether it's fly fishing or bicycling, there is a
marketing machine turning 10,000 Chinese widgets at a time, and they have
to sell them by scientifically pandering to egos.
Everyone is happy she
I totally agree and have no criticism for the woman who bought the bike. I have
a very specific criticism of bike sellers (large or small) who misinform people
about triples, who insist that low front gears have to be compromised just
because front indexing is seen as indispensable. The 100/74
Yes!
On Feb 2, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Ron Mc wrote:
A lot of people are trying to apply reverse snobbery to this discussion where
it doesn't exist. Whether it's fly fishing or bicycling, there is a
marketing machine turning 10,000 Chinese widgets at a time, and they have to
sell them by
A lot of people are trying to apply reverse snobbery to this discussion
where it doesn't exist.
Guilty! Sorry for the confused message and misread of the thread.
Please chalk it up to a case of one too many similar conversations in real
life where a friend asks the crowded table for
Jeff, I actually wasn't calling you out. I picked your post to reply to
because I liked its humor. As parallel discussions go, today on the bamboo
fly rod board, the topic is You're a collector, but I'm a Fisherman, which
is that brand of reverse snobbery - the comparison was actually how I
FAT BIIE!!!
Patrick Moore, who prefers ~25 mm for his go fast and 60 mm for his dirt
bike in ABQ, NM (and who counsels Eric to consider selling his Rivendells
very very carefully.
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote:
Find this whole
On 02/02/2014 01:00 PM, James Warren wrote:
If he told the her that a road triple (50x40x30 in the front) often
has some trouble working well with brifters and she'd be better off
with a compact double with its 34F x 28R low, then so far, not such
bad advice. But that doesn't complete the
Bruce and Patrick. Probably won't sell right now. Winter blahs are in
full force. Was also being snarky. Or reverse snob. Wider is always better
to some. And a Moonlander definitely has a different ride feel than a bike
with 42mm Grand Bois tires, at least from my test rides of both.
As
Does that observation come under the rubric snarky?
Patrick Moore, chortling in ABQ, NM.
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote:
And a Moonlander definitely has a different ride feel than a bike with
42mm Grand Bois tires, at least from my test rides of
Well, I'm disappointed. Since Grant advertised some small bikes (like the
Saluki), I was hoping she'd opt for that. A well-made small bike is supposed to
be a treasure - G says most small bikes are designed wacky. (Pretty sure I
have that right, but if I've misquoted, show no hesitation to set
Trek bicycling, like life, entails dukkha.
David G in San Diego
On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Dave davele...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm amazed treks tag line is less pain, more gain. Less? Why settle for
less when it could be none?
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Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who telly you differently is selling
something.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, February 1, 2014 12:19:18 AM UTC-7, Dave wrote:
I'm amazed treks tag line is less pain, more gain. Less? Why settle
for less when it could be none?
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My daughter's Team Fuji with 1400g Hoops wheelset and modern 9-speed is
cooler than her carbon...
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...and every bit as fast
On Saturday, February 1, 2014 7:59:04 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Life is
Masterful The Princess Bride pull, Deacon P.
Anybody want a peanut?
On Saturday, February 1, 2014 5:59:04 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who telly you differently is selling
something.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, February 1, 2014 12:19:18 AM
Though she would probably have more fun with a different bike, I hope she
enjoys this one more than whatever she has been riding.
Being only 5'2 she likely doesn't weigh very much so 25 or 28 tires should
be more reasonable than they are for the average adult male. Particularly
if she doesn't
Joyce, great words!!
Jason
sf,ca
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'Just Ride'
-JimD
On Feb 1, 2014, at 8:42 AM, blakcloud blakclou...@gmail.com wrote:
Not quite. That bike is hovering around two grand, which is less than even a
Betty Foy or Sam Hillborne. I am happy that she bought a bike.
On Saturday, February 1, 2014 11:32:37 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc
It is true that it's hard to make triple shifting with indexing brifters
work well in the long term. It is not that the shifter wears out (though
they can break), it is more that the front derailler and the chain wear (as
things do), and it is hard to accomodate this with indexing brifters.
I was at first going to say of this woman's purchase, she was sold a bill
of goods and perhaps she was; our entire way of life consists largely in
being sold a bill of goods by one interest group or another --
*their* interest
instead of *ours.* (Rivendell, on the other hand, seems to me to really
On 02/01/2014 10:29 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
I was at first going to say of this woman's purchase, she was sold a
bill of goods and perhaps she was; our entire way of life consists
largely in being sold a bill of goods by one interest group or
another -- /their/ interest instead of /ours./
One more remark: last summer, an older gent brought in a Specialize Roubaix
Di2 in for a computer. It was rigged with cheap rattrap pedals and (on the
carbon fiber post) a cheap post-mounted rack with a cheap rack bag. I
sneered and snickered only to learn that the rider loved it and, two,
that it
I saw the new rider and her new bike today. I said, Wow, what a pretty bike!
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
One more remark: last summer, an older gent brought in a Specialize Roubaix
Di2 in for a computer. It was rigged with cheap rattrap pedals and
A wise man with the initials GP once wrote (well, actually, he's written it a
few times):
Compliment other people's bikes, especially if they're new.
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On Feb 1, 2014,
Granted, they're not the best for gravel, but 700x25 tires look pretty darn
wide to most cyclists, who are used to seeing 700x20 or 23 tires. I have a set
on the Motobecane that I purchased from Patrick in ABQ, and I've had people ask
me if they are 30-something in width.
Going from 700x20 to
Well bless her heart. But really, who wouldn't want every advantage elite
athletes desire?
http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/collections/womens/road/endurance_race/domane_5_series/
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Anne
She bought a Domane 4:
Domane 4 Series flies past any other carbon endurance race bike in
its class, with IsoSpeed for race comfort, endurance geometry for
stability, and Power Transfer Construction for speed.
I'm not exactly sure what a carbon endurance race bike is supposed to
be, but I guess
That is exactly right.
Whatever shop told her that about triples is an unhelpful shop. It is a really
bad idea to compromise our gearing options just to have indexing in the front.
That bad idea is widespread, but I still don't give a shop a pass when they
help perpetuate it.
On Jan 31,
I'm amazed treks tag line is less pain, more gain. Less? Why settle for
less when it could be none?
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