Re: [RBW] Re: It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[Shoji Takahashi]

Wonderful story... very happy to take part in semi-real-time as it 
happened. Smiles say it best; Riv-ride is special.

“Anniversary Rivs: Celebrate the fellowship of your ring.”--> Rivendell's 
25th is coming soon. Maybe Grant et al., can use this for the 25th? Maybe 
Phil/Bike Tinker could do a different run of T-shirts and/or patches? 

Tailwinds,
Shoji
Arlington MA



On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 12:51:26 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Oh, Ryan, when you find somethng you really love, isn’t it infectious? I’m 
> so glad I have you all because it’s so much sweeter when shared. I know you 
> are as happy for my BIL as I am, and that means so much. I’ve learned heaps 
> here, and I’m so grateful to the list. So, thank you!   
>
> The joke in our family is how alike D and I are - we share most of the 
> same preferences (for everything from bold colors to jokes to aesthetics), 
> and of course we both adore Heather. Now that we have Rivendells, we feel 
> like we are in an exclusive club and we’ve really outdone the rest of the 
> family with our superior bicycles 藍. 
>   
> Those 2 kids are celebrating 10 years of marriage, and I think they should 
> get matching Rivendells. Heather took his Clem for a spin tomight and loved 
> it; I fear her old bike will never measure up now. “Anniversary Rivs: 
> Celebrate the fellowship of your ring.” There, Grant, write that down. That 
> was profound! 
>
> Thanks again for celebrating with us!

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[RBW] Re: and a triple crank?

[Garth]

Sorry, but the question/statement is very vague. What specifically are you 
asking ? 

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[RBW] Demise of Mr. Metric

[Ron Mc]

I was hunting Nordlock washers last evening and ran across bad news - the 
parent company for Mr. Metric has closed this operation.  I understand  it 
became less than cost-effective for them to sell piecemeal metric 
fasteners, but I was their greatest fan and, holy cow, they had everything 
- even found M7 nylock there for the back end of my Berthoud decaleur.  

  

Fastenall with their less-friendly website remains in business, and 
McMaster is still the choice for bulk fasteners and quality tools.  

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[RBW] Demise of Mr. Metric

[tc]

This is great to know, Ron. Thanks. I was going to post a request for 
recommendations for fastener companies. 

Tom

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[RBW] Re: and a triple crank?

[Michael Hechmer]

In deciding on hardware most riders focus on the high and low, but it's 
also important to consider the shifting pattern.  I have found that steps 
between rings of either 10 or 14 work better than 12 or 13.  A  shift of 10 
puts you 1 rear click from the next gear and 14 is  2 clicks.  Often in 
rolling terrain, like the Vt hills I ride in that 14 drop is perfect or 
just one click.  On my Rambouliet I run a 44/30 with an 11 - 30 cluster 
which gives me a good hi gear and a decent low gear for a lightweight bike. 
 On my Saluki, which often carries more stuff I run a 48/34/26 with a 12 - 
28.  This also gives me both a good range, decent spacing and a simple 
pattern.  GPs recommendation of a 46/36/26 also makes a lot of sense.  I 
like a change of between 10 & 15% between gears.
Michael



On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 10:15:33 PM UTC-4, bo richardson wrote:
>
> the standard 46 or 48
> 36
> 28+/-

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Re: [RBW] Re: and a triple crank?

[Ron Mc]

Steve is correct that a sequential triple works best with a narrow 
freewheel/cassette - you would hope any 9sp and greater cassette has narrow 
steps designed-in, but they usually don't - they usually have 
two-tooth-steps at the small cog end.  
I like my devised half-steps with wide rear 
,
 
and by definition, these work best following a different shifting algorithm 
than the sequential triple - there is no crossover, except on the granny 
ring - this is also the same with the compact double.  .  
I pick on my friends who never use their front derailleurs.  I used my FD 
even on my Campy road double, 52/39T, 13-26t.  I shift FD for stop-and-go, 
and use rear for secondary adjustment.  

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 5:28:38 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
>
> On 06/12/2018 10:33 PM, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I wouldn't go random about it 
> Plug your cassette into *Mike's Gear Calculator 
> *
> , 
> vary your chainrings and see what you get 
> The goal is wide range with narrow, useful steps - 5-8 inches for your 
> steps, especially in the range from about 60 to 80 inches, which is where 
> we mostly live.  
> Another goal is to minimize duplicates - 
> with a poorly designed drivetrain, you can have so many duplicates that 
> you have many fewer gears than you think you have.  
>
> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 9:15:33 PM UTC-5, bo richardson wrote: 
>>
>> the standard 46 or 48
>> 36
>> 28+/-
>
>
> Another important consideration is the crossover point.  It's nice not to 
> be forced by angularity or simply running out of gears to shift chain rings 
> in the middle of the range Ron speaks of.  Some chain ring combinations 
> force a shift as soon as the ground starts to rise, so you're constantly 
> changing back and forth for minor terrain undulations; while others let you 
> ride all day in the middle range and only require a chain ring shift for 
> serious hills.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS

[blakcloud]

Mavic 319 = 622

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 1:00:41 AM UTC-4, Neil Doran wrote:
>
> Wot size, looks like 559?

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Garth]

Does anyone here use the canitlever brakes from Rodriguez Bicycle Company 
?  


>- *Lots more power!*
>In a traditional cantilever design the brake loses power as the saddle 
>(or yoke) raises upwards because the angle of the straddle changes. So, 
> the 
>more you apply the brake, the more your mechanical advantage is 
> diminished. 
>The Big Squeeze® eliminates this problem by pulling from the bottom of the 
>brake arm.
>
>
https://www.rodbikes.com/articles/bigsqueeze.html

https://www.rodbikes.com/articles/bsbinstall.html

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[RBW] need noodles ,technomic

[Conway Bennett]

I have power grip pedals and 44 cm noodles and a cheapy origin8 quill stem with 
a 10 cm extension.

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[RBW] FS: 44cm Nitto Noodle / Riv Sackville Banana Sax / Brooks Cambium C17s

[phil k]

All stuff I bought from Rivendell that needs a new home.

Nitto Noodles 44cm 
.
 
Great condition. $40 shipped

Riv Sackville Banana Sax 
 in Olive. I bought 
one of these, thought I lost it in a move. Ordered another one. Found the 
other one after moving so this is an extra that is brand new. $80 shipped.

Brand new Brooks Cambium C17S in "Natural" tan/white color. Bought this a 
couple of years ago for a build for my fiance. Looks like it'll have to be 
postponed as we are too busy budgeting for a wedding. $65 shipped

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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking the Smokey Mountains of the Colorado Rockies

[phil k]

Patrick,

This was a good morning read before heading into work. I've found fixed 
gear climbing easier than not-fixed, but I've never done it with 75lb of 
gear. I love that you took a lot of photos as usual!

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 7:40:59 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> In which I ride through nearly every ecosystem Colorado has, wonder if I’m 
> in the Smokey Mountains instead, encounter deer, bear, wild ass, pronghorn 
> antelope, heard elk, and if my cloths got dirty I had plenty of washboard 
> to scrub them clean. Grin.
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/fixed-gear-bikepacking-the-colorado-rockies
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: and a triple crank?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 06/12/2018 10:33 PM, Ron Mc wrote:

I wouldn't go random about it
Plug your cassette into _Mike's Gear Calculator 
_, 


vary your chainrings and see what you get
The goal is wide range with narrow, useful steps - 5-8 inches for your 
steps, especially in the range from about 60 to 80 inches, which is 
where we mostly live.

Another goal is to minimize duplicates -
with a poorly designed drivetrain, you can have so many duplicates 
that you have many fewer gears than you think you have.


On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 9:15:33 PM UTC-5, bo richardson wrote:

the standard 46 or 48
36
28+/-



Another important consideration is the crossover point.  It's nice not 
to be forced by angularity or simply running out of gears to shift chain 
rings in the middle of the range Ron speaks of.  Some chain ring 
combinations force a shift as soon as the ground starts to rise, so 
you're constantly changing back and forth for minor terrain undulations; 
while others let you ride all day in the middle range and only require a 
chain ring shift for serious hills.


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Re: [RBW] Portugal’s Algarve?

[Sean Kline]

Thanks Steve. From what I can tell Portugal is (re)building out a great deal of 
biking infrastructure. Apparently, in 1950 50% of all highway transit was by 
bicycle. Like everywhere else in the industrialized world, this % has dropped 
dramatically ever since. Like Holland, Portugal is attempting a comeback. I’m 
tentatively planning 200-300 miles of paved and dirt (no-car) trail riding down 
the western coast. ~Sean

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Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Patrick Moore]

That design looks so odd, and the blurbbing is so excited, that I suspected
an April Fools entry at first.

Aside: Rodriguez's "other stuff we sell" page has some interesting niche
products, including a very interesting suspension seatpost. All very
expensive, though.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 6:58 AM, Garth  wrote:

> Does anyone here use the canitlever brakes from Rodriguez Bicycle Company
> ?
>
>
>>- *Lots more power!*
>>In a traditional cantilever design the brake loses power as the
>>saddle (or yoke) raises upwards because the angle of the straddle changes.
>>So, the more you apply the brake, the more your mechanical advantage is
>>diminished. The Big Squeeze® eliminates this problem by pulling from the
>>bottom of the brake arm.
>>
>>
> https://www.rodbikes.com/articles/bigsqueeze.html
>
> https://www.rodbikes.com/articles/bsbinstall.html
>
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[RBW] Re: Riv basket nets hook source?

[Adam Adeane]

An email to Rivendell might surface some spares - they've helped me out 
with them before when I wasn't satisfied with replacements from other 
sources.

Adam
Brooklyn, NY

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 5:05:20 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I like Rivendell's basket nets.
> I remember when they brought them out they specifically commented on the 
> quality of the hooks. And they are high quality.
> I was glad to hear on their Blahg yesterday that a shipment of blue nets 
> is coming. I will get one. 
> I think they come with four hooks and you can zip tie the net to your 
> basket and have a few extra, but for some reason I am down to two and need 
> a few more.
>
> What I am asking is: has anyone found a source for hooks like that for 
> when you need more? "Plastic hooks" is an impossible search term.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Edwin
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Paul Richardson]

Really enjoyed reading this.  Thanks for posting.  Off to the store now for 
orangina and coke!  Just curious--do you remember where you read that?  
What a recipe!

paul
baltimore md

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 12:33:08 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Last Fall I did the Marin Mountains 200k and speculated that it might be 
> the hardest 200k brevet the RUSA catalog.  Yesterday, San Francisco 
> Randonneurs hosted La Ruta Loca, and the route owner Carlos (#4841) is 
> pretty certain this course is harder. It was definitely a monster. "The 
> Crazy Route" was crazy hard, and crazy fun. The main stats are: 125.3 
> miles, ~50 miles of dirt, and 13,051ft of climbing. Here's my Ride with gps 
> data:  https://ridewithgps.com/trips/24131333
>
>
> The weather report called for ideal temperatures, low 50s in the early 
> morning, slight general overcast and not many spots even approaching 75 
> degrees.  According to Rob Hawks, 25 riders gathered in the dense fog at 
> Crissy Field East Beach.  The pavement was very wet, like after a hard 
> rain. It was only fog, and there were times during the ride where I wished 
> the fog would come back. The only threatening part of the weather report 
> called for strong winds from the Northwest. I went with El Cerrito High 
> School racing kit, along with matching arm warmers, a reflective vest and 
> that's all. I was chilly to start but it worked out perfectly. The 
> armwarmers didn't come off until I was back in my van after the finish.
>
>
> 
>
> I was trying to travel light as I wasn't bringing a lot of bag-space on my 
> Black Mountain Monster Cross. The bike's nickname alternates between Green 
> Meanie and Mean Greenie. I ran a 2x10 drivetrain, 42/26 in front, 11-36 in 
> back. My 700x43 Bruce Gordon Rock and Roads were about 'average' for the 
> tires I saw people running. Some of the bikes present were classic 
> rando-machines with Hetres or similar. Some were fully contemporary 'all 
> road' bikes with 27.5" Thunder Burts.  I only saw one flat bar mountain 
> bike, but now that I've done the route, I wouldn't hesitate to bring a 
> light XC mountain bike. At about 5:50AM we gathered for a pre-ride chat, 
> and the solemn SFR oath promising "not to do stupid stuff". At 6AM sharp we 
> were off towards the Golden Gate Bridge heading North into Marin County.
>
>
> Unlike most other SFR routes, we didn't have to meander all willy nilly 
> through Sausalito, Mill Valley, Ross and the other southern Marin towns. 
> Instead we got right off the bridge and headed straight up into the Marin 
> headlands and got off-road immediately. The ride ended up being three 
> distinct sections. Section 1 was an epic 50 mile mountain bike ride, 
> punctuated with just a few paved connectors. Section 2 would be a basically 
> flat road ride punctuated by a few gravel stretches. Section 3 would be 
> another 30 mile mountain bike ride up and over Mount Tam. The first big 
> dirt climb was Miwok Trail, which started to sort people out, especially on 
> the descent of Old Springs. There was a broad array of offroad descending 
> skills on display. Some would bomb the descents 'full-send', while others 
> were quite timid. I landed somewhere in the middle. Throughout the day, I 
> would notice tight corners on a soft trail where a skid mark went straight 
> when the trail curved. The clear indication was that this was caused by a 
> rider who brought too much speed and not enough tire into that corner. The 
> clear message was that there was not going to be much long-term grouping up 
> of riders. It's hard to match skills exactly, and since this course was 
> going to be hard to finish within the 13:30 limit, waiting around was not a 
> smart option. I briefly latched on to a strong group up the steep technical 
> Deer Park climb, led out by Paul on a cyclocross race bike. I let them pace 
> me up the climb, but gathered pretty quickly that this would be the lead 
> group, and I would let them go after a while to 'do my own ride' and 
> conserve my energy. I could tell Paul was serious when he indicated he 
> saved weight by only filling one full water bottle at the start because he 
> planned to stop for water at the Pan Toll Ranger Station at the top of Deer 
> Park. While he did that, I had plenty and went ahead. He passed me shortly 
> after that on the road climb to the tippy top of Mount Tam and I wouldn't 
> see him again. That long climb included some paved riding up Pan Toll and 
> Ridgecrest, but quickly got onto the Lagunitas-RockSprings trail and hit 
> the highest elevation of the day, about 2200 feet. It felt good to be done 
> with the longest steady individual climb and to be at the high point of the 
> route at mile 23. It was just a down-hill century remaining, right?  
> RIGHT?  
>
>
> The Lagunitas-Rock Springs descent is 

Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[br...@bgcycles.com]

Please note that the ride was done on Bruce Gordon Rock ’n Road tires - they 
are available at https://brucegordoncycles.bigcartel.com 

Regards,
Bruce Gordon


> On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 12:33:08 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Last Fall I did the Marin Mountains 200k and speculated that it might be the 
> hardest 200k brevet the RUSA catalog.  Yesterday, San Francisco Randonneurs 
> hosted La Ruta Loca, and the route owner Carlos (#4841) is pretty certain 
> this course is harder. It was definitely a monster. "The Crazy Route" was 
> crazy hard, and crazy fun. The main stats are: 125.3 miles, ~50 miles of 
> dirt, and 13,051ft of climbing. Here's my Ride with gps data:  
> https://ridewithgps.com/trips/24131333 
> 
> 
> 
> The weather report called for ideal temperatures, low 50s in the early 
> morning, slight general overcast and not many spots even approaching 75 
> degrees.  According to Rob Hawks, 25 riders gathered in the dense fog at 
> Crissy Field East Beach.  The pavement was very wet, like after a hard rain. 
> It was only fog, and there were times during the ride where I wished the fog 
> would come back. The only threatening part of the weather report called for 
> strong winds from the Northwest. I went with El Cerrito High School racing 
> kit, along with matching arm warmers, a reflective vest and that's all. I was 
> chilly to start but it worked out perfectly. The armwarmers didn't come off 
> until I was back in my van after the finish.
>  
> 
> I was trying to travel light as I wasn't bringing a lot of bag-space on my 
> Black Mountain Monster Cross. The bike's nickname alternates between Green 
> Meanie and Mean Greenie. I ran a 2x10 drivetrain, 42/26 in front, 11-36 in 
> back. My 700x43 Bruce Gordon Rock and Roads were about 'average' for the 
> tires I saw people running. Some of the bikes present were classic 
> rando-machines with Hetres or similar. Some were fully contemporary 'all 
> road' bikes with 27.5" Thunder Burts.  I only saw one flat bar mountain bike, 
> but now that I've done the route, I wouldn't hesitate to bring a light XC 
> mountain bike. At about 5:50AM we gathered for a pre-ride chat, and the 
> solemn SFR oath promising "not to do stupid stuff". At 6AM sharp we were off 
> towards the Golden Gate Bridge heading North into Marin County.
> 
> 
> 
> Unlike most other SFR routes, we didn't have to meander all willy nilly 
> through Sausalito, Mill Valley, Ross and the other southern Marin towns. 
> Instead we got right off the bridge and headed straight up into the Marin 
> headlands and got off-road immediately. The ride ended up being three 
> distinct sections. Section 1 was an epic 50 mile mountain bike ride, 
> punctuated with just a few paved connectors. Section 2 would be a basically 
> flat road ride punctuated by a few gravel stretches. Section 3 would be 
> another 30 mile mountain bike ride up and over Mount Tam. The first big dirt 
> climb was Miwok Trail, which started to sort people out, especially on the 
> descent of Old Springs. There was a broad array of offroad descending skills 
> on display. Some would bomb the descents 'full-send', while others were quite 
> timid. I landed somewhere in the middle. Throughout the day, I would notice 
> tight corners on a soft trail where a skid mark went straight when the trail 
> curved. The clear indication was that this was caused by a rider who brought 
> too much speed and not enough tire into that corner. The clear message was 
> that there was not going to be much long-term grouping up of riders. It's 
> hard to match skills exactly, and since this course was going to be hard to 
> finish within the 13:30 limit, waiting around was not a smart option. I 
> briefly latched on to a strong group up the steep technical Deer Park climb, 
> led out by Paul on a cyclocross race bike. I let them pace me up the climb, 
> but gathered pretty quickly that this would be the lead group, and I would 
> let them go after a while to 'do my own ride' and conserve my energy. I could 
> tell Paul was serious when he indicated he saved weight by only filling one 
> full water bottle at the start because he planned to stop for water at the 
> Pan Toll Ranger Station at the top of Deer Park. While he did that, I had 
> plenty and went ahead. He passed me shortly after that on the road climb to 
> the tippy top of Mount Tam and I wouldn't see him again. That long climb 
> included some paved riding up Pan Toll and Ridgecrest, but quickly got onto 
> the Lagunitas-RockSprings trail and hit the highest elevation of the day, 
> about 2200 feet. It felt good to be done with the longest steady individual 
> climb and to be at the high point of the route at mile 23. It was just a 
> down-hill 

[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Grant @ Rivendell]

Even though many of the guesses are 75 percent accurate, this bike is bound 
to disappoint throngs, but not by intent. There is already tons of variety 
in mtn bikes. More than a dozen categories--jumpers, pumpers, xc, dh, 
hardtails, fat, plus, e, enduro... No matter what we do, there's going to 
be some overlap, and it's going to be both too much and not enough, 
depending. There will be some THINGS that it doesn't excel at, but it's 
more the rider than the bike, anyway--right?
The record descent of Repack Road (fire trail in Marin County on which 95 
percent of the original mtn bike development took place in the late '70s) 
is 4:22 for all 2 miles and 1,300 feet of it. In late '76 Gary Fisher did 
that on a modified paperboy bike with a coaster brake. About 8 years 
later,  (sorry for the history!) daredevil downhiller Jimmy Deaton, rode it 
on a then-SOA bike in 4:34. 
Those are the facts that feed the notion that the measure of a bike and a 
rider is speed, which I think is way off.  When you design for extreme 
speeds or terrain or surfaces (sand, snow, boulders...) you get an extreme 
bike that psychologizes normal riders into thinking they're worse for being 
normal and let's them buy their way into the glorified extreme world and 
look ready for action on the way back from Trader Joe's. 

The plan with the new bike—which may not even happen—is that it's a 
sufficient platform and maybe no more, for lots of non-extreme trail 
riding, and it's sufficiently different than our other bikes to be barely 
justifiable. 

On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:14:09 PM UTC-7, Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>
> I also noticed that hint, but wasn't quite certain how to interpret it.  
> On one hand it made me wonder whether a fatter tired single speeder is in 
> the pipeline (Hunqabeam!) but then I read it again and determined my own 
> selfish desires were too heavily influencing that initial interpretation.  
> Curiouser and curiouser!
>
> Brian Cole
> Lawrenceville, NJ
>
> On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 3:24:19 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
>> This might be a stretch, but hey, what's the fun in following a guru if 
>> you can't spend hours parsing his words and interpreting them?  I think 
>> there might be a hint towards an upcoming trail-oriented Riv (or update to 
>> an existing Riv) hidden in this passage from Grant's post yesterday 
>> 
>> : 
>>
>> In mountain bike racing and just riding, it's gone the other way. The 
>>> early guys were riding unsuitably low-tech bikes, then bikes reached a 
>>> basic good level of appropriate technology in the late '80s, and now 
>>> they've borrowed as much as possible—for now—from cars and motorcycles. 
>>> There are reactions to it the other way, with one-speed mountain bikes, but 
>>> those are fading fast because...one gear is too limiting for varied 
>>> terrain. *There's no restraint at that end, and we're going to show 'em 
>>> all what-for sometime late this year, if we can pull it off.*
>>
>>
>> I wonder what it could be...the before-hinted plus-tire Hunqapillar?  
>> Bringing back the Bombadil (probably can't be done under the LOTR gag 
>> order)?  Some other new trail-oriented rig?
>>
>> Honestly, I'm pretty satisfied with my Jones-barred Clem as my MTB 
>> (well...a threadless fork would be nice), so I'm not anxiously awaiting 
>> anything, but it would be interesting to see what they come up with.  
>>
>> Let the speculation begin! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Low/No Carb Electrolyte?

[ascpgh]

You do have to have some glucose in an electrolyte/rehydration solution. 
It's about the cellular level of respiration and moving electrolytes across 
membranes. 

Potassium is normally intracellular, sodium extracellular. By use of 
energy, these ions are kept on opposite sides of a cell's outer membrane to 
provide a functional potential.

Potassium is transported through the sodium/potassium "pumps" of cellular 
membranes, into the cells, better in the presence of insulin. Production of 
insulin by the Islet of Langerhans cells of the pancreas occurs in response 
to the presence of glucose in the blood stream, as detected and responded 
to with insulin released into the blood stream. 

Your electrolyte balances will remain in dyscrasia despite specific oral 
supplementations if they are without the crutch of some sugar to trigger 
increased production of insulin. Google recipes on pickling and you'll see 
vinegar salt and sugar which will reinforce your comprehension of why 
pickle juice is a recommendation for rehydration or electrolyte 
replenishment. 

Sorry, droning. I just worked six 13 hour days in a row. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 9:09:24 PM UTC-4, Christopher Cote wrote:
>
> I make my own with 1/4tsp each of salt and potassium chloride (No Salt 
> brand) and just enough lemon juice to make it palatable in a 22oz bike 
> bottle. It's basically the WHO ORS recipe without the sugar. I'm no 
> nutritionist, but it seems to work.
>
> Chris
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Re: [RBW] Portugal’s Algarve?

[Steven Sweedler]

Sean, I find Portugal a really charming place and ook forward to returning.
Have a wonderful time and enjoy the sidewalks, a favorite of mine.  Steve

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:51 AM Sean Kline 
wrote:

> Thanks Steve. From what I can tell Portugal is (re)building out a great
> deal of biking infrastructure. Apparently, in 1950 50% of all highway
> transit was by bicycle. Like everywhere else in the industrialized world,
> this % has dropped dramatically ever since. Like Holland, Portugal is
> attempting a comeback. I’m tentatively planning 200-300 miles of paved and
> dirt (no-car) trail riding down the western coast. ~Sean
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[RBW] Re: Low/No Carb Electrolyte?

[Christopher Cote]

Andy, thanks for your response. I have read about that before and understand it 
as well as someone who got an A in high school biology class, but has no 
further training can. In my limited experience,I have experienced a severe 
"bonk" feeling when in ketosis after a hot, high effort ride drinking only 
water. I have not experienced the bonk when drinking my electrolyte solution. 
In neither case do I think I was seriously dehydrated, but I may have been low 
on sodium?

Chris

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Bill Lindsay]

Bruce correctly pointed out that I’m running Rock and Roads. They are great 
great tires in my opinion. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking the Smokey Mountains of the Colorado Rockies

[Deacon Patrick]

Phil, to be clear, bike and gear and food and water weigh 75 pounds, I’ve 
hauled 90+ pounds of groceries mostly downhill before, for only 5 miles. I 
wouldn’t want to tour with close to that much load, and there’s no reason to. 
Grin.

Andrew, no secret. Joby mini tripod, iPhone, timer app. That’s it!

With abandon,
Patrick 

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Scott Calhoun]

Bill,

I'm impressed with the Ruta Loca route: 13k of climbing over 125miles--it 
is like the Eroica California Heroic route with an extra 4k of climbing. 
Also, I really enjoyed your recap, the video, and especially the 
soundtrack. La Ruta Loca is now officially on my list. Thanks for sharing.

Scott 

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 12:19:55 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Like it or not, I did manage to make my music video.  It's easier to 
> motivate oneself to gather the footage if you have a concept ahead of 
> time.  For me, 'concept' means a song.  The song is my own bootleg 
> recording of "Kopi Luwak", played by the El Cerrito High School Jazz 
> Ensemble.  My son Henry plays trombone for the jazz ensemble.  Check it out 
> if you like.  It's about 5:30 in length.
>
>  Youtube link 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking the Smokey Mountains of the Colorado Rockies

[phil k]

Ahh, gotcha thanks for the clarification! 

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 12:41:44 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Phil, to be clear, bike and gear and food and water weigh 75 pounds, I’ve 
> hauled 90+ pounds of groceries mostly downhill before, for only 5 miles. I 
> wouldn’t want to tour with close to that much load, and there’s no reason 
> to. Grin. 
>
> Andrew, no secret. Joby mini tripod, iPhone, timer app. That’s it! 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Bill Lindsay]

Paul asked where I read that Tour de France riders drank coke and OJ in the 
early 1980s. 

It was probably in Bicycling magazine or maybe Winning. I read both of those in 
those years. It might have been in a Sean Kelly bio, because I remember reading 
about the coke-can practical joke he would play. They’d get their musette at 
the feed zone, which always included a can of coke. He’d dump the van of coke 
into his water bottle and then reach down and drag the empty van on the ground. 
The sound was exactly like the sound of a pedal going into somebody’s spokes so 
it would scare the bejeezus out of the peloton. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] Re: FS

[Carla Waugh]

700c

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[RBW] FS - Nitto Handlebars, Thompson Seatpost

[Tony DeFilippo]

46cm Heat Treated Nitto Noodle - $40
48cm Heat Treated Nitto Noodle - $50
52cm Nitto RM-014 Dirt Drops - $50 (no red ribbon, not sure if they are HT 
or not)

Thompson Zero Setback 27.2mm Seatpost, Black- $40


Pics upon request, price does not include shipping from DC.  I've got some 
Nitto technomic stems to go along with these if interested as well. Want to 
package anything up feel free to make me an offer.

Trade interests:
Paul QR Skewers


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[RBW] Re: UPDATE: It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[REC (Roberta)]

This is great, and I expected he'd be hooked with superior ride.  Sorry 
that he got his bike stolen, but I am happy he's liking the new bike.

Now, the next question:  Will Heather's new Riv be in the same grey color 
or will she opt for the dark green?  :)

You're a good sister and SIL.

Roberta


On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 9:02:34 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> This lousy photo is all I have to share for now. It was taken from my 
> iPhone while watching live on my iPad, haha. See that smile on his face? It 
> stayed there, from the time he saw his new bike to the time he parked it at 
> home. Also, the other man in the photo worked with Grant in his Bridgestone 
> days. His name is Gene. Isn’t that something? 
>
> D rode the 5 miles home and Heather and I were waiting. He said he went 
> “so fast” and thus overdid it and arrived home exhausted. 
>
> He said he passed people left and right and was genuinely surprised. He 
> wasn’t fast on his Specialized, and he and Heather had believed the Clem 
> would be heavy. He felt like he was slipping off the Brooks (tilt that nose 
> up!) but it was otherwise PERFECT. Gah! More photos tomorrow I hope! 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 44cm Nitto Noodle / Riv Sackville Banana Sax / Brooks Cambium C17s

[phil k]

Banana Sax and Brooks Cambium sold!

Only Nitto Noodle 44cm left. 

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 9:49:05 AM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>
> All stuff I bought from Rivendell that needs a new home.
>
> Nitto Noodles 44cm 
> .
>  
> Great condition. $40 shipped
>
> Riv Sackville Banana Sax 
>  in Olive. I 
> bought one of these, thought I lost it in a move. Ordered another one. 
> Found the other one after moving so this is an extra that is brand new. $80 
> shipped.
>
> Brand new Brooks Cambium C17S in "Natural" tan/white color. Bought this a 
> couple of years ago for a build for my fiance. Looks like it'll have to be 
> postponed as we are too busy budgeting for a wedding. $65 shipped
>

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Sounds good to me, Grant! There are zillions of highly specialized mountain 
bikes out there already - no need to chase after them.

Eamon

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 9:21:15 AM UTC-7, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> Even though many of the guesses are 75 percent accurate, this bike is 
> bound to disappoint throngs, but not by intent. There is already tons of 
> variety in mtn bikes. More than a dozen categories--jumpers, pumpers, xc, 
> dh, hardtails, fat, plus, e, enduro... No matter what we do, there's going 
> to be some overlap, and it's going to be both too much and not enough, 
> depending. There will be some THINGS that it doesn't excel at, but it's 
> more the rider than the bike, anyway--right?
> The record descent of Repack Road (fire trail in Marin County on which 95 
> percent of the original mtn bike development took place in the late '70s) 
> is 4:22 for all 2 miles and 1,300 feet of it. In late '76 Gary Fisher did 
> that on a modified paperboy bike with a coaster brake. About 8 years 
> later,  (sorry for the history!) daredevil downhiller Jimmy Deaton, rode it 
> on a then-SOA bike in 4:34. 
> Those are the facts that feed the notion that the measure of a bike and a 
> rider is speed, which I think is way off.  When you design for extreme 
> speeds or terrain or surfaces (sand, snow, boulders...) you get an extreme 
> bike that psychologizes normal riders into thinking they're worse for being 
> normal and let's them buy their way into the glorified extreme world and 
> look ready for action on the way back from Trader Joe's. 
>
> The plan with the new bike—which may not even happen—is that it's a 
> sufficient platform and maybe no more, for lots of non-extreme trail 
> riding, and it's sufficiently different than our other bikes to be barely 
> justifiable. 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: UPDATE: It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[Abcyclehank]

I second Roberta’s inquiry.  What does you pro Rivendell deviously heathy mind 
have in store for your sister.   What would you create as T2ndBBITW for your 
lucky sibling. 
RBW listers want to know.  Even if it is only R

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Low/No Carb Electrolyte?

[Stephen W.]

Sir,
   Have you ever tried drinking coffee while out riding your bicycle? I hear 
some cyclers enjoy it. I'm not 100% certain if there are any electrolytes in 
there but it might be worth a try.  ;)

Stephen Webster
*sent from central Wisconsin*

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[RBW] Re: Low/No Carb Electrolyte?

[ascpgh]

Christopher, (Response apologetically delayed by air travel, car rental and 
driving to my mother's home) The sodium depletion is something most folks 
are less sensitive to when sweat-depleting electrolytes. Physiologic 
situations differ, bigger people will tend to sweat out more sodium. Some 
people just have odd sweat composition, I had a customer who had very high 
acetic acid content in his sweat and corroded front derailleurs into 
dysfunction and etched cranksets with his perspiratory output. Weird. Just 
part of nature wonderful variability. 

Potassium always gets equal billing with sodium in general discussions 
(that "pump" in membrane walls), but it is lots more troubling when out of 
balance because of the difficulty normalizing compared to sodium. This is 
mostly because of where it is normally, inside the cells, not just in the 
extracellular juice of your body. 

When I have a patient with low potassium the basic answer is IV fluid with 
dextrose and potassium because the potassium will follow the dextrose into 
the cells. This is not done quickly as compensations occur when those 
levels get off and rapid normalization can produce equally harmful 
electrolyte imbalances in that setting. If a potassium level has dropped so 
fast that it isn't compensated by the body, bad things start to happen. 
Patients in that situation will get what we call "K-runs" or potassium 
infusions and often require ICU level care for the acuity of monitoring as 
the electrolytes normalize and the infusions themselves...potassium has a 
high rate of making an IV site go bad and any resulting extravasation into 
surrounding tissue is bad. 

A good primer on the exercise induced imbalances (even though they're 
plugging their electrolyte solutions): 
http://saltstick.com/2017/05/24/potassium-important-exercise-performance/

Sweat isn't the only culprit in potassium depletion: 
https://www.mayoclinic.org/symptoms/low-potassium/basics/causes/sym-20050632 
All 
the stuff people eat/drink in response to exercise that isn't at all a part 
of their normal balance of intake and can cause enteral "dumping", a fancy 
way to say diarrhea. That and vomiting are major causes of lost potassium, 
the biggest concern is smooth muscle dysfunction (think cramps). not what 
you want your bowels, vasculature, airway walls or heart to start doing. 

This electrolyte depletion/repletion thing is serious stuff if you are 
sweating heavily for more than an hour. There is a time and place for 
banner statements but it behooves anyone participating in such activity to 
know if they are predisposed to any particular depletion, be it sodium 
because they are big or potassium because they are on an entry level 
antihypertensive with a diuretic component. 

Knowing how to tend to your fluid/electrolyte situation under normal 
regular activity stress can be a bit of trial and error. You will do some 
kidney harm if you don't supply your renal function with some water to 
excrete with the wastes removed by renal function. Your doctor checks BUN 
and Cr annually to see your baseline renal excretion performance, but under 
exercise stress they will rise as you dehydrate and produce muscle 
breakdown byproducts to be removed from your circulatory volume. If that 
goes overboard, you *will* learn about rhabdomyolysis. 

Eesh, I gotta stop and go to bed, after I drink a big glass of water. 

Andy Cheatham 
Pittsburgh
(Hot Springs, AR tonight)

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 2:10:48 PM UTC-5, Christopher Cote wrote:
>
> Andy, thanks for your response. I have read about that before and 
> understand it as well as someone who got an A in high school biology class, 
> but has no further training can. In my limited experience,I have 
> experienced a severe "bonk" feeling when in ketosis after a hot, high 
> effort ride drinking only water. I have not experienced the bonk when 
> drinking my electrolyte solution. In neither case do I think I was 
> seriously dehydrated, but I may have been low on sodium?
>
> Chris
>

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[RBW] Re: New Dia Compe 610 Centerpull Brakes?

[ted]

That looks like a cnc made caliper, the new forged ones are more rounded in 
places.

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[RBW] Re: New Dia Compe 610 Centerpull Brakes?

[ted]

https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/general-update

Photos and mention near the bottom

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Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[d2mini]

>From today's email...

"it will have a superior form of disc brake that utilizes the rim for 
maximum leverage and light weight"


On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 4:48:36 PM UTC-5, Eamon Nordquist wrote:
>
> Yeah, I'm with you too. It's almost certain to have rim brakes, and why 
> not?  
>

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Kieran J]

Is there any reason to believe longer (i.e., Riv-long) chainstays would be 
a good feature on an MTB? Didn't the Bombadil have relatively short ones? 
Many rigid MTB builders such as Waltworks insist on shorter stays. Now, MTB 
can include many variations of riding off-road, so I suppose there could be 
vastly different designs for each style of riding. Does LONN have a 
place in there somewhere? I personally can't see how long chainstays would 
be a good fit on a trail bike.

KJ


On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> This might be a stretch, but hey, what's the fun in following a guru if 
> you can't spend hours parsing his words and interpreting them?  I think 
> there might be a hint towards an upcoming trail-oriented Riv (or update to 
> an existing Riv) hidden in this passage from Grant's post yesterday 
> 
> : 
>
> In mountain bike racing and just riding, it's gone the other way. The 
>> early guys were riding unsuitably low-tech bikes, then bikes reached a 
>> basic good level of appropriate technology in the late '80s, and now 
>> they've borrowed as much as possible—for now—from cars and motorcycles. 
>> There are reactions to it the other way, with one-speed mountain bikes, but 
>> those are fading fast because...one gear is too limiting for varied 
>> terrain. *There's no restraint at that end, and we're going to show 'em 
>> all what-for sometime late this year, if we can pull it off.*
>
>
> I wonder what it could be...the before-hinted plus-tire Hunqapillar?  
> Bringing back the Bombadil (probably can't be done under the LOTR gag 
> order)?  Some other new trail-oriented rig?
>
> Honestly, I'm pretty satisfied with my Jones-barred Clem as my MTB 
> (well...a threadless fork would be nice), so I'm not anxiously awaiting 
> anything, but it would be interesting to see what they come up with.  
>
> Let the speculation begin! 
>

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

i.e. rim brakes, of course! No surprise, and as it should be ;^)

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 1:10:14 PM UTC-7, WETH wrote:
>
> From today’s email: “Just know that it's a Riv thru and thru, *it will 
> have a superior form of disc brake that utilizes the rim for maximum 
> leverage and light weight,* it will be rigid, steel & human powered, and 
> it will use an existing wheel size with plenty of tire choices. A little 
> more heavy-duty than a Clem.” 
> This sounds perfect to me; I am saving my pennies to be ready next spring!

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Kieran J]

Interesting. In photos, Bomba rear wheels have always looked more "tucked" 
than other models. I've always assumed the Bomba was a pretty ideal 
all-round trail machine (perhaps barring a slight increase in tire 
clearance and certainly minus the second TT, which I oppose in all but the 
most extreme use-case scenarios). 

KJ


On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 1:25:15 PM UTC-7, lconley wrote:
>
> Depends on the Bombadil. I have a "newer" Bombadil that has relatively 
> long chainstays as well as a diagatube and tentacles. The chainstays are 
> longer than what are listed on the Bombadil geometry chart, which I believe 
> applies to the earlier "original" Bombadils which had double top tubes in 
> the larger sizes instead of the diagatube.
>
> Laing
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 4:02:29 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:
>
>> Didn't the Bombadil have relatively short ones? 
>>
>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[John G.]

"Sufficiently Different to be Barely Justifiable" gets my vote for a 
T-shirt.

Looking forward to this bike. Maybe in a year I'll live somewhere where I 
can actually ride some trails.

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 3:28:30 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Grant said:  " this bike is bound to disappoint throngs, but not by intent"
>
> THERE is your next T-Shirt:
>
> "Unintentionally disappointing throngs since 1994"  
>
> You are welcome. You do you. :)
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Bill Lindsay]

Grant said:  " this bike is bound to disappoint throngs, but not by intent"

THERE is your next T-Shirt:

"Unintentionally disappointing throngs since 1994"  

You are welcome. You do you. :)

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] Thumb Shifter Opinions - IRD Silver SOS vs Microshift 9 sp.

[James Warren]

Since you’re not indexing, go with aesthetics and whether it has a hinged 
handlebar clamp.

(For 9-speed indexing, I’d have recommended the IRD.)

-Jim W

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 13, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:
> 
> I've got some hail mary money burning a hole in my pocket and a bike that I 
> want to put thumb shifters on. Has anyone here used both the IRD Silver SOS 
> and Microshift 9 sp shifters that Riv sells. Is there a clear winner?
> 
> 1. I doubt I'll want to index, so that doesn't matter.
> 
> 2. I have the Silver bar ends, and I don't find them dreamy, but they're 
> good. So that's not a clear plus.
> 
> 3. I like that the Silvers have the hinged clamp and a shim for whatever size 
> bar.
> 
> 4. Silvers are in stock (again, finally!). Microshift aren't.
> 
> 5. Microshift are cheaper.
> 
> So unless the Microshift just have a super feel or some other thing I'm not 
> thinking of, I'll order up the Silvers. But I'd love to hear some opinions.
> 
> Here are the links for reference:
> Silver - 
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/shifting/products/ird-silver-sos-power-ratchet-thumb-shifters
> Microshift - 
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/shifting/products/microshift-thumb-shifters-9-speed-sl-t09
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Paul in ATL
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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Read Jeff Jones' posts about the Jones Plus LWB (long wheelbase) bike. They 
are quite a bit longer than his standard model, and still highly capable 
offroad. He goes into a lot of detail as to the differences and why you 
might prefer one over the other.

http://www.jonesbikes.com/jones-plus/

Eamon
Seattle

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 1:02:29 PM UTC-7, Kieran J wrote:
>
> Is there any reason to believe longer (i.e., Riv-long) chainstays would be 
> a good feature on an MTB? Didn't the Bombadil have relatively short ones? 
> Many rigid MTB builders such as Waltworks insist on shorter stays. Now, MTB 
> can include many variations of riding off-road, so I suppose there could be 
> vastly different designs for each style of riding. Does LONN have a 
> place in there somewhere? I personally can't see how long chainstays would 
> be a good fit on a trail bike.
>
> KJ
>
>

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[lconley]

Depends on the Bombadil. I have a "newer" Bombadil that has relatively long 
chainstays as well as a diagatube and tentacles. The chainstays are longer 
than what are listed on the Bombadil geometry chart, which I believe 
applies to the earlier "original" Bombadils which had double top tubes in 
the larger sizes instead of the diagatube.

Laing


On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 4:02:29 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:

> Didn't the Bombadil have relatively short ones? 
>
>  
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Tony DeFilippo]

My former size 56cm Double TT Bombadil was longer than my 60cm Saluki but I 
never measured...  My current Jones Plus definitely is long, Jones' 
prototype for that bike was dubbed 'the Long Ranger'...  very capable trail 
bike.

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[RBW] Thumb Shifter Opinions - IRD Silver SOS vs Microshift 9 sp.

[Paul Clifton]

I've got some hail mary money burning a hole in my pocket and a bike that I 
want to put thumb shifters on. Has anyone here used both the IRD Silver SOS 
and Microshift 9 sp shifters that Riv sells. Is there a clear winner?

1. I doubt I'll want to index, so that doesn't matter.

2. I have the Silver bar ends, and I don't find them dreamy, but they're 
good. So that's not a clear plus.

3. I like that the Silvers have the hinged clamp and a shim for whatever 
size bar.

4. Silvers are in stock (again, finally!). Microshift aren't.

5. Microshift are cheaper.

So unless the Microshift just have a super feel or some other thing I'm not 
thinking of, I'll order up the Silvers. But I'd love to hear some opinions.

Here are the links for reference:
Silver - 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/shifting/products/ird-silver-sos-power-ratchet-thumb-shifters
Microshift - 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/shifting/products/microshift-thumb-shifters-9-speed-sl-t09

Thanks.

Paul in ATL

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[WETH]

>From today’s email: “Just know that it's a Riv thru and thru, it will have a 
>superior form of disc brake that utilizes the rim for maximum leverage and 
>light weight, it will be rigid, steel & human powered, and it will use an 
>existing wheel size with plenty of tire choices. A little more heavy-duty than 
>a Clem.”
This sounds perfect to me; I am saving my pennies to be ready next spring!

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[RBW] Re: UPDATE: It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Oh, what a fun contemplation! I know what she’d want. She’d want the Clementine 
to accompany his Clem. We are all about mixte bikes in the family! I don’t 
think she’d like the green, and I’m not sure she'd want the same grilver as 
hisI think she’d love hers in red. Which they don’t come in, but this is my 
fantasy, so you have to indulge me. Red step-through bikes are so romantic. She 
would want front and rear racks and baskets. She called today and said she 
really, really wants to ride his bike and feels the pull to have one of her 
very own. He’s so big that she can barely pedal his Clem, and only on tip-toe, 
unless she lowers his seat, which I think he’d frown on. Time will tell! I do 
think it’s very possible she ends up with one; they bike commute 5 miles one 
way, so have need of good bikes. Once you’ve had the pleasure of a Rivendell 
ride, it’s hard to go back. I shall be at her service when she decides she must 
have one.

Side note: If I had my way, my bike would be red with cream accents. Delicious.

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Garth]

My parallel TT 60cm. Bomba has 47cm. chainstays, as published.  At the 
time, they were the longest, and as I mentioned earlier, was the "new" 80's 
inspired MTB. So this one will be Pneu Too(Two) ! 

   A Pneu Bomba would be alright , as long as it's no shorter f-c or in 
stack/reach .   My Favorite is the Bomba ! 

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[tc]

I found this video of the Klunkers, who ride (rode?) Repack Road on, well, 
old clunkers.  Gary Fisher is among those featured.

https://www.facebook.com/bikebuilderapp/videos/880460348797102/

Tom

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 12:21:15 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> ...The record descent of Repack Road (fire trail in Marin County on which 
> 95 percent of the original mtn bike development took place in the late 
> '70s) is 4:22 for all 2 miles and 1,300 feet of it. In late '76 Gary Fisher 
> did that on a modified paperboy bike with a coaster brake. ...
>

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[RBW] Re: and a triple crank?

[John Hawrylak]

why not match the big ring to the small cog for what will be your highest 
gear inches, e.g if comfortable with 104 gi, and a 11T cog, 700x32s gives a 
large ring of 42T (102gi).  Spa Cycles in UK sells XD2 cranks with TA rings 
in sizes from 40 to 52 in 110mm BCD.   A 42/34/24 would give maximum gi 
range.  A 42/36/24 gives maximum gi range and almost half step gearing due 
to limiting the big ring to 42.

Just trying to skin "the too many redundant gears' cat another way

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 10:15:33 PM UTC-4, bo richardson wrote:
>
> the standard 46 or 48
> 36
> 28+/-

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Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Yeah, but the reverse side of the T-shirt should say "Fulfilling the
appreciative since 1994."

Toshi

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 12:28 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Grant said:  " this bike is bound to disappoint throngs, but not by intent"
>
> THERE is your next T-Shirt:
>
> "Unintentionally disappointing throngs since 1994"
>
> You are welcome. You do you. :)
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Joe Bernard]

This quote from Dave in the new newsletter (which some of you already posted) 
cracked me up:

   "..it will have a superior form of disc brake that utilizes the rim for 
maximum leverage and light weight, it will be rigid, steel & human powered.."

I hear you, Dave! ;-)

Joe "who just rode his disc brake ebike" Bernard
Novato CA. 

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[RBW] Thumb Shifter Opinions - IRD Silver SOS vs Microshift 9 sp.

[Joe Bernard]

I've used the Microshift 9 in friction and Siver downtubers on thumbie mounts. 
They're close enough in function that I would pick the one I liked the looks 
and mounting of the best. 

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[RBW] Banana Sax alternate mounting, matchy matchy

[Joe Bernard]

Taking a cue from Grant's plethora of front-mounted Bananas, I gave it a whirl 
on my Lightning Bolt with a matching olive Saddlesack. He's right about it 
loading better in the front handlebar position, it's really handy up there. The 
combination with small Saddlesack makes a great rackless fenderless summer bike 
which can still carry all your stuff..I highly recommend it. Enjoy, 
matchy-matchers!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FzKB6xVLLbZrdHRdA

Joe Bernard
Novato CA. 

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[RBW] Re: New Dia Compe 610 Centerpull Brakes?

[Jeremy Tavan]

I tried and failed to use these on the Frank Jones Sr. They fit the front 
just fine, but nowhere near enough reach for the rear. I've been saving 
them for another project, as they're pretty nice looking, though the 
rounded edges of the more-retro ones Rivendell's bringing in have an 
appeal, too.

/Jeremy

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 7:59:05 PM UTC-7, tc wrote:
>
> David,
> Velo Orange 
> 
>  
> has them for $85/wheel.
>
> Tom
>

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[RBW] New Dia Compe 610 Centerpull Brakes?

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I thought they mentioned a while back that they might show up in June. I am 
also waiting for them. If you are still looking for an older set, I have a set 
of Weinmann 610's that I'd be happy to send to you cheap. Message me if you're 
interested.

Eamon
Seattle

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[RBW] New Dia Compe 610 Centerpull Brakes?

[ted]

I’ve seen them on a demo Roadini at RBW. I’m not familiar with the new 750s so 
can’t really compare to those but the new 610 looked fine to me. Nobody there 
had an eta for them. My sense was soonish but that they just weren’t sure when 
to expect them.

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[RBW] Re: Low/No Carb Electrolyte?

[Pondero]

Thanks, Andy.  There were several words in there I'll need to learn more about, 
but your guidance for my research is greatly appreciated.

Thanks again to all for your assistance!

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking the Smokey Mountains of the Colorado Rockies

[EGNolan]

Patrick,
Per usual your trip looks and your words are amazing. Thanks for sharing.

Best,
Eric

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[RBW] New Dia Compe 610 Centerpull Brakes?

[David B]

I know Riv has referred to new DC 610 centerpull brakes as forthcoming and a 
good brake for the Roadini.  
Has anyone seen these new brakes in person?
If so, are they basically the finish of the newer 750s?
I’m thinking of picking up a set, wondering if folks have an inside scoop as to 
when they’ll be available. 
Also, if anyone has an older set for a reasonable price (that is, very cheap) 
that I could use as placeholders until the new version is available, I’d 
certainly appreciate it. 
Thanks,
David 
River Grove, IL

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[RBW] Re: New Dia Compe 610 Centerpull Brakes?

[tc]

David,
Velo Orange 

 
has them for $85/wheel.

Tom

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