[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

[Nick Payne]

Re the Challenge Strada Bianca 700 x 30, I didn't have problems mounting 
them, but I had to retire them because the braking force was making the 
tyres gradually creep around the rim until the valve got ripped out of the 
tube. The rims are Mavic MA2 - been using them for years with multiple 
other brands of tyre with no such problem, and the GP5000 700x32 I fitted 
after removing the Strada Bianca tyres didn't have the problem when 
inflated to the same pressure. Here's what the wheel would look like after 
a ride of 40-50km, and the valve was straight at the start of the ride:



Nick

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[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

[Paul Brodek]

Hey Aaron,

This could turn into another of my tire rants, but it's getting late and 
I'm getting sleepy.

All's I'm gonna say right now is, I can no longer simply use the term 
"accurate" in regard to labeled tire widths. Actual tire width is dependent 
on the tire itself, natch, but also the width of the rim and the final tire 
pressure. Since I started dabbling in vintage builds again, my rims now 
range from 13mm internal width (Mavic Open 4 CD) to 21mm (HED Belgium+). 
That 8mm width differential results in significant differences in actual 
tire widths. 

Luckily I don't have any wide-ass gravel/all-road/atb rims, which can make 
21mm look skinny. Then I'd be making myself even nutsier.

So now I have to use a whole bunch of qualifiers: "accurate on narrower 
rims" or "accurate on wider rims." I think of "accurate on narrower rims" 
as "oversized," and "accurate on wider rims" as "undersized," but that 
still only has meaning when you're including rim widths in the discussion. 
I suppose that's relatively understandable, but if the tire mfrs would just 
standardize their width labeling, life would be so much easier.

The tire labeling doesn't tell us what rim width they're using to measure 
the width, or a what tire pressure they're measuring. There's also the 
issue that tires sometimes pop out of new molds either a little 
undersized/oversized from what the designers intended, which only compounds 
(is that pun-ish? punish??) the problem. 622-33-19-80 (622 tire is 33mm on 
19mm-width rim at 80psi) could be what's in the mold, but what happens when 
the tire pops out and ps! it's actually 31mm or 35mm at 19/80?

End of rant.

In general I find the wider Soma SVs to be accurate on wider rims, or a 
little undersized, so the 33s will reach 33mm on 19-21mm-ish internal-width 
rims and normal/high-ish riding pressures. I just checked one on a 19mm 
Belguim+ rim, 21mm internal width, and it was just a hair over 33mm (like 
33.1-33.2mm) at 80psi. If you're using narrower rims, and/or running lower 
pressure, they should be a little bit narrower.

There could be sample variation, and also variation within the line. I'd 
never used Supple Vitesse 28s, but just got a pair hoping they'd be 
undersized enough to work on my Merckx, which has the 19mm Mavic Open 4 CD 
rims. I figured if they were like the 33s, and wouldn't hit 28mm till they 
got on wide rims, they shouldn't get above 26.5mm or so on a 13mm rim. They 
wound up pretty much at 27.0-27.4mm on those 13mm rims, which was a good 
0.5-1.0mm too wide/tall for the Merckx. If they're only 1mm "undersized" on 
13mm rims, they're going to be oversized on 19-21mm rims. I haven't tried 
them on a wider rim yet to see how wide they get, might get around to it 
before the weekend is out.

Can't help you much with comparative flat results. Hopefully the tire gods 
won't be listening when I say I don't puncture often. And I mostly ride the 
SLs, so I don't have a basis to make a great comparison.

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA  

On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 2:10:00 AM UTC-4, Aaron Thomas wrote:
>
> Paul, 
>
> Regarding the Soma Supple Vitesse tires, how accurate are the size 
> designations when inflated? Or perhaps more to the point, if you have used 
> the 33 mm, is it truly in the ballpark of 33? I bought some Challenge tires 
> labeled 33 mm but they inflated to nearly 37 mm! 
>
> Secondly, in your experience, how puncture prone is the extralight version 
> compared to the standard version?
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron 
>
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:35:52 PM UTC-7, Paul Brodek wrote:
>>
>> You can order from Scott in Mpls, as already mentioned, or buy from him 
>> on ebay. He's always got listings for tires there, makes it handy to see 
>> what he may have in stock.
>>
>> Ordering direct from Grand Bois has been mostly smooth for me. Recent 
>> covid-related shipping issues have cropped up, they switched from EMS to 
>> DHL when delays kicked in, not sure what they're doing now, but Japan seems 
>> to be getting back to a quasi-normal.
>>
>> Nobody's mentioned the Soma Supple Vitesse tires, which are another 
>> high-zoot Panaracer OE product for a US-based brand/company. I use 'em a 
>> lot, like 'em a lot. They have std and extralight versions, and are 
>> generally less expensive than Rene Herse. You can buy direct, might help to 
>> wait for one of their occasional/seasonal sales if you're not in a rush. 
>> ModernBike seems to have the lowest everyday price on them.
>>
>> The Challenge tires are also very nice. Just be aware they are "open 
>> tubular" design, not vulcanized, so they lay flat against the rim out of 
>> the package, with no natural upward curve whatsoever. I don't use tubeless 
>> tires, so I can't compare mounting a Challenge open tubular to those, but I 
>> can say that Challenge open tubulars are the most difficult tires to mount 
>> of any tires I've used over the past 10yrs+. I'm cranky and stubborn, and 
>> only when death is 

[RBW] Re: Tubing between Clem H, Atlantis

[Jason Fuller]

Good info, cheers.  I hear you on the Hillborne, I love mine so much I 
would be tempted to buy a second :D  The Clem's a good bike, but it's not 
magic.  The Sam is! 


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[RBW] Soma leftside chainstay clamp-on kickstand: Reviews?

[Patrick Moore]

https://www.rivbike.com/products/kickstand-single-leg-clamp-on-soma-silver?_pos=5&_sid=aced3f41b&_ss=r&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJiZXJ0aW43NTNAZ21haWwuY29tIiwgImtsX2NvbXBhbnlfaWQiOiAiTFZiNmFDIn0%3D

If anyone has used this, I'd be interested to hear how well it stays in
place without clamping it to the point of creasing the metal. I considered
this or one like it for my erstwhile Dahon Hon Solo, since I like
rear-of-stay stands because they let you walk a fixed-gear bike without
raising the stand -- scenario: you walk quietly through the grocery store
aisles with your stand down and your cranks revolving, and simply set the
bike down whenever you need two hands to grab your merchandise. It makes a
big difference compared to a bb-area stand or to no stand.

I've used the old-fashion Greenfield version on another grocery fixie, but
that one has a clamp that fits over both rearward chainstay and lower
seatstay, providing lever resistance to untoward rotation.

So, again, can you clamp this in place, using some sort of stay protector
if need be, securely enough that it doesn't rotate around the stay?

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Rivendell Atlantis $1900.00

[Roberta]

For those who want to reply  off list, choose to go to classic look (it was 
near my sign on icon, upper right of screen). Then go to desktop view. When 
you choose reply, there is an option to do so privately to author. 

On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 10:09:43 PM UTC-4, Matt Beecher wrote:
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> We cannot reply off the list anymore. Can you send me an email. My name is 
> beech333 Gmail com.  I’m assuming you can connects the dots(.), since we 
> cannot post email addresses either. 
>
> Thanks, 
> Matt in Oswego, IL

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[RBW] Re: Tubing between Clem H, Atlantis

[Drw]

I don’t have any current specifics, but I do know the the latest iteration of 
musa atlanti/hunqs had straight gauge tubing, and the only differences were at 
the fork/stays (this info came direct from riv). It would be my assumption that 
both mit atlanti and Clem’s (Being a budget hunqapillar) are also both straight 
gauge in the same way.

As musa Atlantis owner and toyo Atlantis Former owner/current keeper, the toyo 
is definitely lighter. The musa feels more like my wife’s Clem, which is tiny, 
so I can’t really do a ride comparison.

All this to say, I think the sam, especially now with canti mounts, is really 
the most do everything bike. Every time they announce a new round I consider 
selling 2 “nicer” bikes and having the sam do it all. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Yeah I need to get off my arse and get that done. I bought two Nitto cages with 
nifty clear/red Riv bottles from a listmember and they've been sitting for 
weeks. Soon! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Jason Fuller]

I'm just mad the Bombadil isn't enroute to me.  Great looking bikes all 
around.  Although your custom looks nekkid without at least one bottle 
cage, in my opinion!

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[RBW] Re: Tubing between Clem H, Atlantis

[Jason Fuller]

LBleriot, thanks for the response!  That helps ease my mind.  I think no 
matter what, I ought not buy the Atlantis, but this helps me rest easier. 
I've been quickening my Clem a bit, with Rene Herse tires now, next logical 
step is a lighter wheelset but I want to be confident before making that 
investment. 

Cheers, 
Jason 

On Friday, 14 August 2020 at 18:12:24 UTC-7 LBleriot wrote:

>
> I have both. I kinda think they’re two sides of the same coin.  I use the 
> Clem for tooling around town and on local trails with upright bars and 
> Cazadero tires.  I use the Atlantis for longer, chill rides with drop bars 
> and RH tires.  Both are amazingly comfortable and fun. I can’t ride upright 
> bars for more than hour or so before my wrists aches.  I know I’m missing 
> something technical, but they seem like very similar frames/geometry.  
> On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 6:19:07 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Anyone have experience between the Clem H and the MIT Atlantis frames in 
>> terms of the feel and weight of the tubing, and the differences in how they 
>> ride?  I am shorter, at 5'8", and ride a 45cm Clem H that fits pretty well, 
>> if a touch small.  I have been daydreaming about the 50cm Atlantis frames 
>> with 26" wheels that are in the 'Garage Sale' section of the website (3 
>> left!) because everything from my Clem would bolt right up. 
>>
>> However, I also recognize that it's a lot of money to buy a bike that's 
>> basically a fancier version of what I have - the ETT measurement is the 
>> same, the rear end is a bit longer and the top tube is a bit higher (better 
>> aesthetic fit for me, but the touch points would hardly move at all, so 
>> really the same fit). Plus I would probably worry about it more. As such, I 
>> always ponder it for a short bit then put it out of my mind. 
>>
>> I am curious though if the assumption that it would ride similar to the 
>> Clem (or at least, not different enough to be able to justify the expense) 
>> is fully sound. I think it is, but maybe I'm wrong. I use this bike for 
>> commuting, errands, shorter rides with friends, but also occasionally for 
>> loading up with more stuff than my Hillborne can reasonably carry (ie multi 
>> day camping trips).  I find the Clem to be quite heavy-duty and very stiff, 
>> moreso than I'd prefer, but it can do whatever I need it to. 
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Jason in Vancouver BC 
>>
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Re: [RBW] anyone deal with SPA Cycles in the UK

[Joe Bernard]

I've picked up 3 sets of 152mm XD600s in the last year, they all looked fine 
out of the box. You can see the newest one on my Riv here. 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WLqTM6tYGtkHsB4V6

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[☆ Paul ☆]

What a bike!

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 4:27:51 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Btw I know the cable loops are way long at the front. This is room for if 
> I ever run a bag there, plus I like that the cables don't pull tight on all 
> that pretty paint. I got reasons! 

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[RBW] Re: Tubing between Clem H, Atlantis

[LBleriot]

I have both. I kinda think they’re two sides of the same coin.  I use the 
Clem for tooling around town and on local trails with upright bars and 
Cazadero tires.  I use the Atlantis for longer, chill rides with drop bars 
and RH tires.  Both are amazingly comfortable and fun. I can’t ride upright 
bars for more than hour or so before my wrists aches.  I know I’m missing 
something technical, but they seem like very similar frames/geometry.  
On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 6:19:07 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Anyone have experience between the Clem H and the MIT Atlantis frames in 
> terms of the feel and weight of the tubing, and the differences in how they 
> ride?  I am shorter, at 5'8", and ride a 45cm Clem H that fits pretty well, 
> if a touch small.  I have been daydreaming about the 50cm Atlantis frames 
> with 26" wheels that are in the 'Garage Sale' section of the website (3 
> left!) because everything from my Clem would bolt right up. 
>
> However, I also recognize that it's a lot of money to buy a bike that's 
> basically a fancier version of what I have - the ETT measurement is the 
> same, the rear end is a bit longer and the top tube is a bit higher (better 
> aesthetic fit for me, but the touch points would hardly move at all, so 
> really the same fit). Plus I would probably worry about it more. As such, I 
> always ponder it for a short bit then put it out of my mind. 
>
> I am curious though if the assumption that it would ride similar to the 
> Clem (or at least, not different enough to be able to justify the expense) 
> is fully sound. I think it is, but maybe I'm wrong. I use this bike for 
> commuting, errands, shorter rides with friends, but also occasionally for 
> loading up with more stuff than my Hillborne can reasonably carry (ie multi 
> day camping trips).  I find the Clem to be quite heavy-duty and very stiff, 
> moreso than I'd prefer, but it can do whatever I need it to. 
>
> Thanks!
> Jason in Vancouver BC 
>

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[RBW] Rivendell has the almost perfect crankset for me

[EasyRider]

Joel, what about the 48/36/26 Sugino XD600 triple? It comes in a 165mm length 
and it’s what Rivendell sold before developing the Silver cranks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell has the almost perfect crankset for me

[Joel Stern]

I need a new crankset, for a new bike.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:06 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> Can't you just replace the outer ring with the Riv guard, and the 36 with
> a 38?  Or are you needing an additional crankset?
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Re: [RBW] anyone deal with SPA Cycles in the UK

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Joe, I did not see that.  Are you happy with the Sugino crank you
have?  They’ve sent me 2 both with what I think are Mars from taking them
out of the mold but not sure.

Joel

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS:. 58 cm Hunqapillar Fork for 26" Wheels

[Matthew P]

Thanks for the pics and info Conway.
My idea to apply this to a 700c Atlantis is dumb because the difference 
between 700c and 26" is too great.  To have equal total wheel size (wheel + 
tire), I'd have to run a skinny tire in the back and a 2.2"+ up front.  
Nope.
Thanks though.  Cool stuff.  
If I knew a Hunqapillar fork was the biggest piece of a Hunqapillar I'd 
ever get to own, I might purchase it for that reason alone :-p


On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> The 1993 XO-2 has very tight clearance by current standards which is what 
> instigated the initial fork project.  The XO-2 I had was basically NOS and 
> I also ended up with a 1994 XO-3 that had seen some use.  I treated the 
> XO-2 too preciously and I wanted a daily driver which is why I kept the 
> XO-3.  Around the same time I bought a 650b Hunqapillar so I never used the 
> fork again.
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 4:18 PM Ray > 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh interesting. I just starting building my Bridgestone XO-2 was a little 
>> disappointed in the tight clearance at the fork. Looked great on yours! Any 
>> reason in particular you weren't satisfied with the swap?
>>
>> On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 4:13:57 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:
>>
>>> Matt,
>>>
>>> I added two pictures of the bike I had it mounted on for reference.  I 
>>> am not sure how the fit will be on a Toyo Atlantis but I was running 26 x 
>>> 2.15 smart Sam's on cliffhanger rims with a lot of clearance.  This is also 
>>> a  good project for someone who wants to modify it further to accept disc 
>>> brakes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fair winds,
>>>
>>> Captain Conway Bennett
>>> 239.877.4119
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 4:00 PM Matthew P  wrote:
>>>
 Neat.
 How wide a tire will it accept?
 How would it work with a 58 cm Toyo Atlantis?
 I wonder if I could stick this on and get wider than 2.2" for the 
 unexpected sandpit on the trail.
 Probably a bad idea but might as well find out.
 Thanks
 -Matthew
 San Diego

 On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 11:52:04 AM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> I've tried selling this opportunistically over the years but I just 
> pulled it out of the parts bin again and I want it gone.  
>
> I had a 58 cm Hunqapillar fork modified by comrade cycles in Chicago 
> to accept a 26" wheel.  I am into it for ~ $290, make me a fair offer 
> shipped from Chicagoland and it's yours.  Thanks in advance.
>
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[RBW] anyone deal with SPA Cycles in the UK

[Joe Bernard]

The site says no shipping outside of UK right now. 

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[RBW] Re: FS- Ortlieb bikepacking seat bag large

[Bruce Smitham]

I'm reducing the price to $100 plus shipping CONUS for this bag

On Thursday, August 6, 2020 at 8:25:07 PM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:
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> For sale Ortlieb bikepacking seat bag size large. $110 plus shipping conus 
> or free local pick up from San Diego. Used 1 time and in excellent 
> condition. I need the smaller size for my seatpost.
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[RBW] Re: FS- Snow Peak Lite Max Titanium Ultra Lite camping stove

[Bruce Smitham]

I'm reducing the price to $40 plus shipping CONUS for this stove

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> Snow Peak Lite Max Titanium ultra lite camping stove in excellent 
> condition. Weight is less than 2 oz. $45 plus shipping conus or free local 
> pick up from San Diego. Will include the fuel canister if local.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell has the almost perfect crankset for me

[Jason Fuller]

Can't you just replace the outer ring with the Riv guard, and the 36 with a 
38?  Or are you needing an additional crankset? 

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell has the almost perfect crankset for me

[Linda G]

Thanks Laing, I didn't realize that the Compass came in 165. I seem to 
remember that they just came in a longer length originally.

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 2:26:47 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> Another not cheap solution is Rene Herse (formerly Compass) - they have a 
> 42/26 with 165 arms. Their standard double is slightly cheaper that their 
> 12 speed compatible.
>
> [image: IMG_0557.jpg]
>
> Laing
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 3:41:52 PM UTC-4, Joel wrote:
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>> So close but I use 165mm arms.  Their 38/24 would be ideal for me.  I run 
>> a triple now, 48/36/24  and rarely go to my big ring, rarely leave the 36. 
>>  I use a 6 speed FW, usually 13-26 but on my new frame will try 13-28 as I 
>> have a nice Suntour asking to be used.  Does anyone make what I am looking 
>> for? 
>>
>> Joel
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell has the almost perfect crankset for me

[J L]

Just for a point of clarity, Rivendell sells a triple crank with a chain guard 
and two rings (middle and granny) in a couple of configurations. They do not 
sell a sub-compact double. Some of the other cranks mentioned here are doubles 
that allow small ring (outer and inner) combinations. 

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[RBW] anyone deal with SPA Cycles in the UK

[Joel]

wanting to know if they are honorable?

Thanks

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[RBW] Tubing between Clem H, Atlantis

[Jason Fuller]

Anyone have experience between the Clem H and the MIT Atlantis frames in 
terms of the feel and weight of the tubing, and the differences in how they 
ride?  I am shorter, at 5'8", and ride a 45cm Clem H that fits pretty well, 
if a touch small.  I have been daydreaming about the 50cm Atlantis frames 
with 26" wheels that are in the 'Garage Sale' section of the website (3 
left!) because everything from my Clem would bolt right up. 

However, I also recognize that it's a lot of money to buy a bike that's 
basically a fancier version of what I have - the ETT measurement is the 
same, the rear end is a bit longer and the top tube is a bit higher (better 
aesthetic fit for me, but the touch points would hardly move at all, so 
really the same fit). Plus I would probably worry about it more. As such, I 
always ponder it for a short bit then put it out of my mind. 

I am curious though if the assumption that it would ride similar to the 
Clem (or at least, not different enough to be able to justify the expense) 
is fully sound. I think it is, but maybe I'm wrong. I use this bike for 
commuting, errands, shorter rides with friends, but also occasionally for 
loading up with more stuff than my Hillborne can reasonably carry (ie multi 
day camping trips).  I find the Clem to be quite heavy-duty and very stiff, 
moreso than I'd prefer, but it can do whatever I need it to. 

Thanks!
Jason in Vancouver BC 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell has the almost perfect crankset for me

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Joe but I’d rather go with a if possible 46 or 48 38 and 26 for 24

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> replace the 30t with a 24.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS:. 58 cm Hunqapillar Fork for 26" Wheels

[Conway Bennett]

The 1993 XO-2 has very tight clearance by current standards which is what
instigated the initial fork project.  The XO-2 I had was basically NOS and
I also ended up with a 1994 XO-3 that had seen some use.  I treated the
XO-2 too preciously and I wanted a daily driver which is why I kept the
XO-3.  Around the same time I bought a 650b Hunqapillar so I never used the
fork again.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
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On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 4:18 PM Ray  wrote:

> Oh interesting. I just starting building my Bridgestone XO-2 was a little
> disappointed in the tight clearance at the fork. Looked great on yours! Any
> reason in particular you weren't satisfied with the swap?
>
> On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 4:13:57 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:
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>> Matt,
>>
>> I added two pictures of the bike I had it mounted on for reference.  I am
>> not sure how the fit will be on a Toyo Atlantis but I was running 26 x 2.15
>> smart Sam's on cliffhanger rims with a lot of clearance.  This is also a
>> good project for someone who wants to modify it further to accept disc
>> brakes.
>>
>>
>> Fair winds,
>>
>> Captain Conway Bennett
>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 4:00 PM Matthew P  wrote:
>>
>>> Neat.
>>> How wide a tire will it accept?
>>> How would it work with a 58 cm Toyo Atlantis?
>>> I wonder if I could stick this on and get wider than 2.2" for the
>>> unexpected sandpit on the trail.
>>> Probably a bad idea but might as well find out.
>>> Thanks
>>> -Matthew
>>> San Diego
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 11:52:04 AM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:

 I've tried selling this opportunistically over the years but I just
 pulled it out of the parts bin again and I want it gone.

 I had a 58 cm Hunqapillar fork modified by comrade cycles in Chicago to
 accept a 26" wheel.  I am into it for ~ $290, make me a fair offer shipped
 from Chicagoland and it's yours.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Tire Clearance? 55mm Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge Tires on a Waterford Atlantis

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Jason; Worth a look, maybe even a try. RH has come out with a few
tires recently that I've not read about, this being one of them.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:50 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> This isn't really an answer, I realize, but the 48mm Oracle Ridge very
> recently released might be a lower-risk option well worth considering.
> Sounds like it has some further refinement from the Fleecer packed into its
> design, for a modest drop in volume.
>
> On Thursday, 13 August 2020 at 08:20:10 UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I don't own an Atlantis, but I'd be very interested to hear how these
>> things ride on pavement compared to the Antelope Hill -- or to the magical
>> 60 mm Schwalbe Big One, in the 450 gram model.
>>
>> I ask because while the Big Ones roll on pavement like the best road
>> tires I've used, they obviously require careful cornering in loose dirt,
>> including crusher fine-surfaced trails, and I wonder if the Fleecer Ridge
>> will roll very well on pavement while providing more cornering grip in sand
>> and on crusher fine.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 7:55 PM Joshua Stacy 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried the new 55mm Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge tires on a
>>> Waterford Atlantis (size 61cm)? Seems like they might fit.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joshua
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I want it all!, at least anything that might fit. I think the Wolbis would be a 
bit small, and I do have more than my fair share of bikes, but no, more please. 
And having had the pleasure of meeting Tall Paul last fall, I know he's 1- 
super nice, and 2- his bikes nearly fit me!! So I had to holler. 
I admit, I was a little sad seeing that much seat post on this bike, knowing 
that mine would be a little bit more, and thus, I might never know the joy of a 
swoop tubed hillibike . But maybe, if one shows up down the line and I "need" 
a drop bar racer, I might Snag it up .
So, to answer your question- nope, definitely don't need any smaller bikes, and 
I picked up that second Rosco in hopes of never needing any more bikes ever. 
I should set up my big Clem again, find joy in the swoopless...

Happy Rolling
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell has the almost perfect crankset for me

[Joe Bernard]

Utah Trikes has FSA Gossamer cranks in 165. 52-39-30 isn't what most of us are 
looking for, but you can ditch (or just not shift to) the 52 and replace the 
30t with a 24. 

They also have a couple cranks in 152 which is what I use. Shorty cranks are 
awesome! 

https://www.utahtrikes.com/UTCAT-181.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS:. 58 cm Hunqapillar Fork for 26" Wheels

[Ray]

Oh interesting. I just starting building my Bridgestone XO-2 was a little 
disappointed in the tight clearance at the fork. Looked great on yours! Any 
reason in particular you weren't satisfied with the swap?

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 4:13:57 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote:

> Matt,
>
> I added two pictures of the bike I had it mounted on for reference.  I am 
> not sure how the fit will be on a Toyo Atlantis but I was running 26 x 2.15 
> smart Sam's on cliffhanger rims with a lot of clearance.  This is also a  
> good project for someone who wants to modify it further to accept disc 
> brakes.
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 4:00 PM Matthew P  wrote:
>
>> Neat.
>> How wide a tire will it accept?
>> How would it work with a 58 cm Toyo Atlantis?
>> I wonder if I could stick this on and get wider than 2.2" for the 
>> unexpected sandpit on the trail.
>> Probably a bad idea but might as well find out.
>> Thanks
>> -Matthew
>> San Diego
>>
>> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 11:52:04 AM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:
>>>
>>> I've tried selling this opportunistically over the years but I just 
>>> pulled it out of the parts bin again and I want it gone.  
>>>
>>> I had a 58 cm Hunqapillar fork modified by comrade cycles in Chicago to 
>>> accept a 26" wheel.  I am into it for ~ $290, make me a fair offer shipped 
>>> from Chicagoland and it's yours.  Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/wivMh3CDfw9jR7CQ6
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell has the almost perfect crankset for me

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Linda, I will look at these, you never know.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 5:09 PM Linda G  wrote:

> I'm in a similar situation, needing a  double crank in 165  with low
> gearing ( 42-26). I have a White Industries VBC road square taper on one
> bike and Sugino OX 601D on the other. The White Industries would work for
> you but they are expensive. I bought the Sugino from Soma but they don't
> seem to carry them any more. When I got it, you bought the crank arms and
> chainrings separately so you could customize. The White Industries also
> works that way. The Sugino was not cheap either. The White Industries looks
> and rides very nice and seems to be better quality than the Sugino. I dread
> setting up another bike because of the difficulties of finding a crank that
> will work for me. Good luck!
>
> On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 12:41:52 PM UTC-7 Joel wrote:
>
>> So close but I use 165mm arms.  Their 38/24 would be ideal for me.  I run
>> a triple now, 48/36/24  and rarely go to my big ring, rarely leave the 36.
>> I use a 6 speed FW, usually 13-26 but on my new frame will try 13-28 as I
>> have a nice Suntour asking to be used.  Does anyone make what I am looking
>> for?
>>
>> Joel
>>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS:. 58 cm Hunqapillar Fork for 26" Wheels

[Conway Bennett]

Matt,

I added two pictures of the bike I had it mounted on for reference.  I am
not sure how the fit will be on a Toyo Atlantis but I was running 26 x 2.15
smart Sam's on cliffhanger rims with a lot of clearance.  This is also a
good project for someone who wants to modify it further to accept disc
brakes.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 4:00 PM Matthew P 
wrote:

> Neat.
> How wide a tire will it accept?
> How would it work with a 58 cm Toyo Atlantis?
> I wonder if I could stick this on and get wider than 2.2" for the
> unexpected sandpit on the trail.
> Probably a bad idea but might as well find out.
> Thanks
> -Matthew
> San Diego
>
> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 11:52:04 AM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:
>>
>> I've tried selling this opportunistically over the years but I just
>> pulled it out of the parts bin again and I want it gone.
>>
>> I had a 58 cm Hunqapillar fork modified by comrade cycles in Chicago to
>> accept a 26" wheel.  I am into it for ~ $290, make me a fair offer shipped
>> from Chicagoland and it's yours.  Thanks in advance.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/wivMh3CDfw9jR7CQ6
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell has the almost perfect crankset for me

[Linda G]

I'm in a similar situation, needing a  double crank in 165  with low 
gearing ( 42-26). I have a White Industries VBC road square taper on one 
bike and Sugino OX 601D on the other. The White Industries would work for 
you but they are expensive. I bought the Sugino from Soma but they don't 
seem to carry them any more. When I got it, you bought the crank arms and 
chainrings separately so you could customize. The White Industries also 
works that way. The Sugino was not cheap either. The White Industries looks 
and rides very nice and seems to be better quality than the Sugino. I dread 
setting up another bike because of the difficulties of finding a crank that 
will work for me. Good luck!

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 12:41:52 PM UTC-7 Joel wrote:

> So close but I use 165mm arms.  Their 38/24 would be ideal for me.  I run 
> a triple now, 48/36/24  and rarely go to my big ring, rarely leave the 36. 
>  I use a 6 speed FW, usually 13-26 but on my new frame will try 13-28 as I 
> have a nice Suntour asking to be used.  Does anyone make what I am looking 
> for? 
>
> Joel
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Rivendell Atlantis $1900.00

[Matthew P]

Hey Nikko.

Nice ride!  I'm gathering parts to build up my 58 cm Toyo Atlantis.
Looks like your tire clearance is limited in the back and not in the fork.  
Can you confirm?
And those are 700c x 2.1" tires on there?  Looking about max.  I thought 
2.2" would be the max, like the 2.2" Ikons.
You ever fit wider tires than the ones you have on there?

Lets see those parts!  I'm interested.  You want to let that front rack 
go?  Crust leather bars?  Wha?  Love to see that stem too!  Purple goes 
great with the Atlantii!

-Matthew
San Diego


On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 7:18:27 PM UTC-7, Nikko in Oakland wrote:
>
> For quick reference. 
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-atlantis-58cm-touring/7175682012.html

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[RBW] Re: FS:. 58 cm Hunqapillar Fork for 26" Wheels

[Matthew P]

Neat.
How wide a tire will it accept?
How would it work with a 58 cm Toyo Atlantis?
I wonder if I could stick this on and get wider than 2.2" for the 
unexpected sandpit on the trail.
Probably a bad idea but might as well find out.
Thanks
-Matthew
San Diego

On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 11:52:04 AM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> I've tried selling this opportunistically over the years but I just pulled 
> it out of the parts bin again and I want it gone.  
>
> I had a 58 cm Hunqapillar fork modified by comrade cycles in Chicago to 
> accept a 26" wheel.  I am into it for ~ $290, make me a fair offer shipped 
> from Chicagoland and it's yours.  Thanks in advance.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/wivMh3CDfw9jR7CQ6
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[The Snag]

Hey Kai, I know you got a Will's monster mixte or two, I'm curious why 
you'd want to move to a smaller frame as a XL rider? The Suzie does look 
awesome!


On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 11:53:31 AM UTC-7, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:
>
> How's it feeling Paul? I've had big Suzie dreams, and yours is that dream 
> come to life. You're on the upper end of the XL fit? Does it wiggle/✈️? 
> Enjoy!! 
> -Kai

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Btw I know the cable loops are way long at the front. This is room for if I 
ever run a bag there, plus I like that the cables don't pull tight on all that 
pretty paint. I got reasons! 

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[RBW] Re: Upgrade to Sam Hillborne from a Surly Corss-Check?

[Mark Roland]

Then again, I believe the Paramount is a Schwinn ;^)

On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 9:55:17 PM UTC-4, Andy Beichler wrote:
>
> I am curious about the finish of a Sam Hillborne.  I lucked into a 1984 
> Paramount Touring a year or so ago and got my first up close view of what a 
> high end frame looks like.  The finish on it is top notch.  The lug lines 
> are very clean.  No stray file marks or tiny drips of brass (silver?).  The 
> connection where the seat and chain stays join the drop out are fantastic.  
> There is no evidence of a plug on the end of it.  I don't necessarily 
> expect the same level of finish on a Sam Hillborne as I expect on a much 
> more expensive bike, but I would like to think the finish is better than I 
> would find on a Soma or Schwinn.  What is the finish on a Sam Hillborne 
> like?
>
>
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[RBW] WTB: Billie Bars

[Will Ashe]

Hi all, 

I was thinking about getting Albas but only if I could find an older 58cm, 
which hasn’t been the case. If any of y’all have an extra set of Billies I’d 
love to take them off your hands. 

Best, 
Will
Austin, TX

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[RBW] Rivendell has the almost perfect crankset for me

[Joel]

So close but I use 165mm arms.  Their 38/24 would be ideal for me.  I run a 
triple now, 48/36/24  and rarely go to my big ring, rarely leave the 36.  I 
use a 6 speed FW, usually 13-26 but on my new frame will try 13-28 as I 
have a nice Suntour asking to be used.  Does anyone make what I am looking 
for? 

Joel

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Re: [RBW] Re: The 2020 BQ Un-Meeting in CA is canceled

[Reed Idlewild]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:24 PM Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA <
benzouy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 11:33:56 AM UTC-7, Reed Idlewild wrote:
>>
>>
>> I was one of the folks helping Jan organize the BQ Un-Meeting in CA this
>> year. I’m the person who booked the group campsite at Samuel P Taylor.
>>
>> I’ve decided I’m not comfortable organizing or attending any sort of
>> Un-Meeting under the current circumstances. I have canceled the group
>> campsite reservation and let Jan know.
>>
>> We were excited to share one of our favorite parts of the world with
>> y’all, and I’m deeply sad to call it off.
>>
>> Hopefully next year.
>>
>
>
> Hey Reed, cancelling it this year is the right move, and you have my
> support (if you even need that).
>
> Selfishly, I do hope that when this pandemic has abated, and another
> Un-Meeting is being organized, that the organizers will still pick a
> location somewhere in the SF Bay Area.
>

Thanks Benz. We're certainly willing to try again once we can all get
together safely.


Reed

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[RBW] Re: The 2020 BQ Un-Meeting in CA is canceled

[Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 11:33:56 AM UTC-7, Reed Idlewild wrote:
>
>
> I was one of the folks helping Jan organize the BQ Un-Meeting in CA this 
> year. I’m the person who booked the group campsite at Samuel P Taylor. 
>
> I’ve decided I’m not comfortable organizing or attending any sort of 
> Un-Meeting under the current circumstances. I have canceled the group 
> campsite reservation and let Jan know. 
>
> We were excited to share one of our favorite parts of the world with 
> y’all, and I’m deeply sad to call it off. 
>
> Hopefully next year. 
>


Hey Reed, cancelling it this year is the right move, and you have my 
support (if you even need that).

Selfishly, I do hope that when this pandemic has abated, and another 
Un-Meeting is being organized, that the organizers will still pick a 
location somewhere in the SF Bay Area.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano 10spd Bar-End Shifters, 2pr

[Ray]

Hi Paul. I might be interested in a pair if they're still for sale. 

Thanks,
Ray

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 2:52:49 PM UTC-5 Paul Brodek wrote:

> Hey all, I'm looking to spin off a couple pair of Shimano 10spd bar-cons. 
> Both installed once, very low use.
> What I've got is:
>
> SL-BS79 Dura-Ace: $65 paypal'd/shipped conti USA - These are current, I 
> think, D-A, which _do not_ have friction option.
> SL- - D-A?: $55 paypal'd/shipped conti USA - A previous version, 
> model# unmarked, D-A level I think because covers/surround are black i/o 
> gray, these have a friction option.
>
> I can add photos a little later, want to get out on the rollers first
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

How's it feeling Paul? I've had big Suzie dreams, and yours is that dream come 
to life. You're on the upper end of the XL fit? Does it wiggle/✈️?
Enjoy!!
-Kai

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[RBW] The 2020 BQ Un-Meeting in CA is canceled

[Reed Idlewild]

Hey folks, 

I was one of the folks helping Jan organize the BQ Un-Meeting in CA this year. 
I’m the person who booked the group campsite at Samuel P Taylor. 

I’ve decided I’m not comfortable organizing or attending any sort of Un-Meeting 
under the current circumstances. I have canceled the group campsite reservation 
and let Jan know. 

We were excited to share one of our favorite parts of the world with y’all, and 
I’m deeply sad to call it off. 

Hopefully next year. 


Best, 
Reed

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

I'm ready, Roberta! 

Doug: So far on a couple short rides I've been very impressed with the Berthoud 
(although *someone* we know thinks Brooks looks better, I won't say her name 
). I hop on and it feels hard as a rock and it's like "uh oh", then a minute 
later..nothing. It just disappears like it's all broken in. Amazing! 

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[RBW] Re: WTB Bosco bars, pref 58cm, and V brake levers

[Rob H.]

Hi Ryan,

Thanks for the offer. I ended up selling the Clementine, partially built.

On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 2:34:39 PM UTC-7 Abcyclehank wrote:

> I think I can accommodate you regarding both. Will be gone until 9:00 EST 
> tonight but can send some pics and details if you have not scored what you 
> want before then.
>
> Ryan Hankinson
> West Michigan
> (616)928-4226 <(616)%20928-4226>
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[RBW] Re: Thoughts on albastach bars

[Rob H.]

I currently have albastache with 10cm dirtdrop stem on my soma san marcos 
and really like it. It took me awhile to get used to the weird aesthetic 
of  dirtdrop stem but having the albastache bars up that high really does 
maximize comfort and the variety of hand positions. The rear grip area 
(near my bar end shifters) is very similar to using albaTROSS bars, and the 
forward area  offers 2 different positions: in the loops which is similar 
to a straight bar, and on the hoods which is also pretty comfy. Adding 
stoker levers or Dia Compe knob grips near the stem can supposedly offer a 
4th hand position but I haven't tried that

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 8:40:37 AM UTC-7 beachb...@gmail.com wrote:

> Had them on my commuter for a couple years and loved them. Had them on a 
> shorter stem & about even with the seat height. Much more like a drop bar 
> than albatross. I’ve switched them out for noodles which I now like better. 
>
> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 4:51:26 PM UTC-4 richard...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I think they are great bars. Pair well with single speed riding. Have 
>> them on my simple one and love them there because I am regularly moving my 
>> hands around to chug up hills. Offer lots of good hand positions if you are 
>> the type who likes to fidget. Get them up high and close as recomended, 
>> dirtdrop stem or similar to your looks liking a great choice. Lots of fun. 
>> If you are just going to be sitting and grinding away with your hands in a 
>> single position maybe not the best choice but everyone is different...my 
>> recomendation is they are best on a playful shorter distance ride kinda 
>> bike. A la single speed, city / shortish commute, dirt road rambler...
>
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[RBW] Re: FS 59cm black Clementine frame, fork, Tange headset, seatpost and bottom bracket

[Rob H.]

Sold

On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 12:43:07 PM UTC-7 Rob H. wrote:

> Link to photo album: https://www.flickr.com/gp/robhuang/YVVvuJ
>
> Bottom bracket instaleld was measured at 111mm by my digital calipers.
>
>
> On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 10:17:06 AM UTC-7, Rob H. wrote:
>>
>> If you tried to message me, it's quite possible it got deleted from my 
>> Spam folder. Please resend and I won't be as hasty this time.
>>
>> On Friday, May 29, 2020 at 11:16:37 PM UTC-7, Rob H. wrote:
>>>
>>> It's time to let this go to someone who will ride it. I built her up 
>>> about 5 years ago and commuted on it for a bit, but I found it a tad too 
>>> big for me (I'm a 85 pbh). Long chainstays made for a super comfy ride.
>>>
>>> This is the frame that takes the 700c wheels. Cantilever/V-brake posts. 
>>> The seatpost size is not 27.2 (I believe it might be 29.8) so I'm including 
>>> it. Pictures to follow. 
>>>
>>> $600. I can leave the bottom bracket installed at no additonal cost. 
>>> Will report on spindle length shortly.
>>>
>>> Strong preference given to someone in the SF Bay Area for pickup/delivery
>>>
>>

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[RBW] New 2020 Sweater Vests

[Mark Roland]

Mine came. Love it. Will be wearing it over the black merino long sleeve 
and my various Pendletons this fall. It should be a super versatile 
well-used garment. It did take a bit of dedication to try it on in 
94-degree heat. I thought it might be so long as to be slightly unsightly. 
But no, it's within bounds. 5'10", got a medium.

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts on albastach bars

[beachb...@gmail.com]

Had them on my commuter for a couple years and loved them. Had them on a 
shorter stem & about even with the seat height. Much more like a drop bar 
than albatross. I’ve switched them out for noodles which I now like better. 

On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 4:51:26 PM UTC-4 richard...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think they are great bars. Pair well with single speed riding. Have them 
> on my simple one and love them there because I am regularly moving my hands 
> around to chug up hills. Offer lots of good hand positions if you are the 
> type who likes to fidget. Get them up high and close as recomended, 
> dirtdrop stem or similar to your looks liking a great choice. Lots of fun. 
> If you are just going to be sitting and grinding away with your hands in a 
> single position maybe not the best choice but everyone is different...my 
> recomendation is they are best on a playful shorter distance ride kinda 
> bike. A la single speed, city / shortish commute, dirt road rambler...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Doug H.]

Joe,
That saddle is like black glass...so smooth looking. I really like the gray
sidewall tires too. Classy.
Doug

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:24 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Let's try that again.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Mark Roland]

Yeah. Most bikes are stolen as crimes of opportunity--unlocked, unattended. 
Then you have the semi-pros--they have cutters and can get at cheaper locks 
quickly. It's doubtful whether they will discriminate much as long as the 
bike looks like it can bring $10+. I understand there is a small subset of 
thieves that know the signs of a high end bike, and have buyers that will 
pay them enough for their troubles without asking questions. If these folks 
zero in on your bike for whatever reason, without lots of countermeasures, 
it will be hard to deny them. The good news is, this last type probably 
operates in a zone rich with potential targets. Does the park entrance seem 
like a likely drive by spot for pro bike heists? Is there a ranger station 
or parking lot guard booth nearby? Etc. Etc. 

As far as the Charlie Gallop looking like a 90s Multitrack. H. I think 
all the swoop bikes are snazzy--Clem L, Susie/Gus, upcoming CG. I think the 
Platypus is gettng a swoop in the extra stays?

On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 9:09:18 PM UTC-4, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> I have a hard time believing anyone outside the Riv-fam will find the 
> curved top tube of the CHG attractive ;) Honestly, the silver-grey proto 
> looks like a 1990s "multi-track" hybrid bike to me; extremely low key IMO. 
>
> It'll be a TIG frame in the ~$900 range (I hope), but more importantly 
> it'll be the build kit that makes me more comfortable locking it up.  My 
> Hillborne is well decorated and gets constant compliments (partly due to 
> the orange, I'm sure) and I've invested over $5000 into it.  The CHG build 
> would be much more utilitarian and low key - I would go with the most 
> understated colour option it ends up coming in, such as Greysilver, and it 
> would inherit many of its parts from the Clem (wheels/tires obviously 
> notwithstanding).  
>
> Basing whether one wants to lock up a bike on perceived attractiveness to 
> thieves is a flawed system I realize - it's probably more luck of the draw 
> than anything. But I know I'd be more comfortable locking up a CHG, as long 
> as I keep my upgradeitis in check. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions on my aspiring Riv-style build?

[Nathan Mattia]

If you find yourself near St. Louis, Your welcome to test (and haggle over? My 
56cm 1983 Expedition w an Albatross setup. 

-Nathan Mattia

“I saw a tiger. Now I understand. I saw a tiger and the tiger saw a man.”

> On Aug 14, 2020, at 9:44 AM, Ray  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Joe,
> 
> Thanks for looking out. Unfortunately, that would be far too small for me. As 
> for sizing, I'm not 100% sure as I've never had the opportunity to test drive 
> a Riv, but I have a PBH of about 86 cm, so according to their charts 56-58 
> would be for me, but it's hard to know for sure
> 
>> On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 1:05:23 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> I don't think I caught your size but maybe this could work. Says he'll ship.
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-rivendell-atlantis-2-51cm/7168591492.html
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions on my aspiring Riv-style build?

[Ray]

Hey Joe,

Thanks for looking out. Unfortunately, that would be far too small for me. 
As for sizing, I'm not 100% sure as I've never had the opportunity to test 
drive a Riv, but I have a PBH of about 86 cm, so according to their charts 
56-58 would be for me, but it's hard to know for sure

On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 1:05:23 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I don't think I caught your size but maybe this could work. Says he'll 
> ship. 
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-rivendell-atlantis-2-51cm/7168591492.html
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brake levers for setting up Canti front and V for rear wheel

[Ash]

Hi Ed,  this is small size.   It seems like this model 'runs big'.  I'm 
5'7" and this bike feel a bit bigger than I need.

Yes that's the height I keep the seat at.

On Thursday, 13 August 2020 at 19:06:45 UTC-7 ed wrote:

> Hi Ash,
> What size is your Susie and is that your correct seat height?
> Very nice looking :-)
> Edgar
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 6:58 AM Ash  wrote:
>
>> Here's my work-in-progress Susie, rocking V-Canti combo.
>>
>> Rich is still waiting for the front rim.   Temporarily I used my road 
>> bike's (now that it is Riv-fied with Bosco, 650b and R559, I call it 'City 
>> bike')  Pacenti Brevets.  Did a few rides last weekend with Avid Sing Digit 
>> 7 V-brakes both front and back.  Then a few rides with Avid Shorty ultimate 
>> in the front.  IMO,  there's no comparison when it comes to modulation.  
>> With the Cantis it feels like I can go smoothly 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 
>> 80, 90 and 100% brake power based on how hard I squeeze the lever.  V brake 
>> without the modulator felt like 10, 40, 90, 100% and a little different 
>> (mushy) with the modulator that's hard to describe.
>>
>> Given that the full power this particular Canti gives upon full squeeze 
>> of the lever is quite close to that with the V, current setup feels right 
>> for the types of rides I go on (70% of the time flat roads/trails, 
>> occasional hilly rides, rarely wet conditions).  However, the asymmetry is 
>> starting to bother me a little.  Not sure yet what setup I will settle with 
>> when the build is complete.
>>
>> [image: swl-2.jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: WTT My Nitto 32F, Surly Front or CETMA for your Mark's or M18

[EGNolan]

My 32F is also a campee 
,
 
so I'm unsure of the model you have Sam. If it has a diving board for crown 
attachment (like this) 
rather
 
than the through hole attachment meant for cantilevers/V-brakes/disc then 
it would probably work. I'm not looking for h'bars, but rather thought I'd 
offer mine in case someone wanted to trade for a rack...

Best,
Eric

On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 4:19:27 PM UTC-4 Sam Perez wrote:

> I have a nitto rack called the campee if you are interested also have the 
> nitto 136 and nito 135

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Roberta]

I hope your lockdown ends soon and you can enjoy your bikes outside!

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