[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet
I prefer a 48/38/24 triple. You have to be a little carefull shifting and use a friction front as no indexing will work with that. However, there are some steep hills up bad roads in Southern China where I live and a little lower gear is a good thing. I also like he 38 tooth chain wheel better than a 36. On Sep 1, 11:23 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So I'm currently running my Rambouillet with a double crankset (50/34) and an 8 speed cassette (11-28). I really have to admit that I just don't find pushing the 50 outer ring to be that enjoyable. I'm thinking of going to a 46. I'm using an FSA compact derailer. Will this combo work? Would I be better off going with a 48 outer chainring? My Hilsen has a 46 outer ring and I really like that. I guess I'm just curious if it'll shift okay. Right now I have DT shifters (Silver) and will probably go back to bar-end for the winter. Thanks, mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Reynolds Shoes F/S
Reynolds of Northhampton Touring Shoes. Size 47. Very Little Use. Beautiful Condition. $100 Plus shipping. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Posting Photographs or Attachments to the Group
Hey all - I realize that there have been no recent State Of The List Announcements of late, so a few things that are convention on this list aren't known by some of the newer members. Although the list software allows it, please do not attach images or other files when emailing the list. It is best to post the images online flickr.com or one of the other free online hosting services, and share the link in your email to the group. Long urls (anything that runs more than 3/4 of a line of email is a good rule of thumb) can be shortened via tinyurl.com, or one of the similar sites available a link to the photograph. Previous SOTL Reports are archived here: http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/listupdate And if you haven't read our one FAQ, that can be found here: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/web/rbw-group-requests Also, if you are responding to a For Sale post, it's best to do that directly to the person who made the post, rather than to the list. - Jim -- Jim Edgar / All List Admin-y after a long day cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla route, the one I follow when I assume that everyone in a car is out to get me. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Early Rivendell Crown Race size?
I used to own a mid-90s Rivendell Road (Waterford built), I don't recall the head race size being anything other than standard. Angus On Sep 1, 8:57 pm, Swami neilvdo...@gmail.com wrote: So I just obtained a mid-90's Riv Road Standard. Beautiful frame, W- ford built (I think). I'm pretty excited about it. I went to pound a Campy Record 26.4 crown race on and it just wouldn't fit. I gave up, perplexed that the frame was built for 27.0. No big deal, but were these frames ever built for the JIS 27.0 race? Am I missing something? Riv doesn't even sell a 27.0 race headset on their site, so I'm a bit miffed, and I know 27.0 is the least common. I just want to get some aknowledgement that I'm not a total moron-mechanic before I order up a Tange Levin CDS. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Early Rivendell Crown Race size?
Why not have the race milled down to 26.4? I had this done on an older Trek recently after I experienced the same huh? moment. I also wondered why some early Treks had 27.0 races, and others 26.4. Seems that it depended somewhat on supply of steer tubes at the time. Check the head tube cup fit while you're at it - they may be undersized as well. Good news is milling both to the current standard means taking metal off - a quick fix for a good mechanic with the right tools. Worth the investment IMHO. Marty On Sep 1, 9:57 pm, Swami neilvdo...@gmail.com wrote: So I just obtained a mid-90's Riv Road Standard. Beautiful frame, W- ford built (I think). I'm pretty excited about it. I went to pound a Campy Record 26.4 crown race on and it just wouldn't fit. I gave up, perplexed that the frame was built for 27.0. No big deal, but were these frames ever built for the JIS 27.0 race? Am I missing something? Riv doesn't even sell a 27.0 race headset on their site, so I'm a bit miffed, and I know 27.0 is the least common. I just want to get some aknowledgement that I'm not a total moron-mechanic before I order up a Tange Levin CDS. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Early Rivendell Crown Race size?
Thanks for the advice. I at least want some aknowledgement that some Rivs were 27.0 before removing material. Also, altering the frame before I even ride it doesn't sit well with me. I'd rather invest the little money it takes to buy the Tange and go with that first. I crudely ground down the bridge of a cruddy fork once, and it was unnerving. I would definitely have a good shop do it this time. -Neil On Sep 2, 5:54 am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Why not have the race milled down to 26.4? I had this done on an older Trek recently after I experienced the same huh? moment. I also wondered why some early Treks had 27.0 races, and others 26.4. Seems that it depended somewhat on supply of steer tubes at the time. Check the head tube cup fit while you're at it - they may be undersized as well. Good news is milling both to the current standard means taking metal off - a quick fix for a good mechanic with the right tools. Worth the investment IMHO. Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Considering an AHH - Advice sought
On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 20:12 -0700, Erik wrote: Coincidentally, Boulder Bikes is about a ten minute walk from my house, and until I received this email, I had no idea they existed. And that can only mean you are not a Bicycle Quarterly subscriber, because that bike was reviewed in BQ 2 issues ago. If you're here I'll bet you'd love BQ. http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/vbqindex.html IMHO it's the best cycling magazine being published today. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Reynolds Shoes F/S
I'd love to have them. On Sep 1, 6:57 pm, Don Genovese dgen...@gmail.com wrote: Reynolds of Northhampton Touring Shoes. Size 47. Very Little Use. Beautiful Condition. $100 Plus shipping. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Emailing: kesling bicycles 2005 003.jpg
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:50 AM, David Estescyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I checked out their site (Breezer), and they don't list it for sale. Right now moot point as it has derailers. check out these: http://www.hebie.de/Kettenschuetzer.6.0.html and http://www.bikefront.com/products/chainguards/703-Chainguard-for-38T-max -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Mixte Frames to Riv-up?
That's the one my brother recently found at a nearby GW; it's not a Voyager as I posted. Very nice, and IMO far better for a city bike -- add wider tires if you like -- than any Dutch or rod brake bike. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:35 PM, John Aydelotte j.m.aydelo...@gmail.comwrote: It rides very well -- with the sprung saddle she get's a very smooth ride, even on rough city streets. Yes, the Le Tour series are quite nice, and this one was (from what I could glean online) made by Panasonic. There are still lots of them out there in garages and they pop up on Craigslist pretty frequently. They are a step up from the World Tourist (made by Giant in Taiwan, I believe), and certainly lighter than the old Varsity bike, which may have still been cranked out in Chicago back then. Was that the one you were thinking of? The original catalog page for the Le Tour Touriste can be seen here.http://www.trfindley.com/flschwinn_1980_1990/1981_10.html The Mixte isn't prominent, but the lower left photo shows one. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Considering an AHH - Advice sought
I purchased my Berthoud HB bag through them and the service was excellent. The Boulder Bicycle received an outstanding review in VBQ and is definitely something you might want to consider. The spec build on the complete is well thought out. If you do go with their bike you'll definitely want to look into randonneuring. Actually, whatever bike you get, look into randonneuring. --mike On Sep 2, 4:27 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 20:12 -0700, Erik wrote: Coincidentally, Boulder Bikes is about a ten minute walk from my house, and until I received this email, I had no idea they existed. And that can only mean you are not a Bicycle Quarterly subscriber, because that bike was reviewed in BQ 2 issues ago. If you're here I'll bet you'd love BQ. http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/vbqindex.html IMHO it's the best cycling magazine being published today. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Mangini Ranch open to bikers?
I'm sorry I can't answer 100% positive, but I think I recall a trail opening celebration. If you want to be sure, you could call Save Mt Diablo. Generally, bikes are allowed on all fire roads, and allowed on some single track. I know you can ride dirt from Walnut Creek to Mt Diablo 100% legally. If you've never ridden out here, just be aware that there are a lot of steep hills in the dirt, especially as you go higher up Diablo, and be prepared to walk some. Jim M WC, CA On Sep 1, 9:38 pm, Jason Lee jason.ferr...@gmail.com wrote: I just picked up a map made by Save Mount Diablo (http://www.savemountdiablo.org/DiabloTrailMAPHomepage.htm) and noticed that it was published back in 2007. In it, the greyed out trails going through Mangini Ranch say No public access and the only thing I can find on the internet is that back in 2007-2008 it was accessible only via tour. The only newer information I saw was that the East Bay Trail Dogs did some trail maintenance back on May 9, 2009. Anyone know if it is open to bikers? I am looking to take BART to Concord (from Oakland) and ride through Lime Ridge, then Mangini Ranch and into the trails on Diablo. I also noticed that these grey dashed lines are listed as Unpaved road Private that would let me connect this all together. Not sure if these are now open or not. I just did a little more research and found out on OpenStreetMap that the trails are listed but mostly un-named:http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.91452lon=-121.97493zoom=15lay... It seems as though as long as it is legal, I shouldn't have a problem riding mostly dirt from Concord into Diablo. Discuss please. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns fenders on a Romulus
Some time ago I asked RBW if Jack Browns would fit a Rambouillet with fenders and they said no So now, like Mike, I have 32mm Paselas on a Rambouillet with SKS P45 fenders. Angus On Sep 1, 6:34 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I managed to get Pasela 32mm tires on with an SKS P45. It was no problem at all. I also used Berthoud 40s with Ruffy Tuffys. On Sep 1, 1:54 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Nope. I tried Grand Bois 30mm tires on a Rambouillet and they didn't work with fenders. Ryan On Sep 1, 12:56 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: I use Jack Browns on a Rambouillet with sidepulls. I don't think fenders will work. I like the JB's so much on the bike that I just pray for no rain. -Original Message- From: nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 1, 2009 2:11 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Jack Browns fenders on a Romulus Has anyone been able to fit fenders and Jack Browns on a side-pull Romulus? If so, which fenders? It seems like it could be possible; the Romulus product flyer says it can fit 35s with fenders / 38s without but I'm not sure which manufacturer's 35s that was in reference to. :) -nathan- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Multi-Speed Quickbeam
I know that someone (perhaps more than one) on this list has put a Sturmey Archer or similar hub on their QB. I'm looking for photos and tips on how to do it (e.g. how to mount the shifter on drop bars and the routing/attachment of the shift cable). Thanks! --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Multi-Speed Quickbeam
Hi Eric, I have a Surly Cross Check that Harris Cyclery set up using their San Jos8 package. It has a Shimano Nexus 8 rear hub. The shifter is attached on the bar end with a bar end adaptor called a HubBub. The cable is routed down the downtube and then across the chain stay and held in place with zip ties. Here are pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/swimberg/CrossCheck?feat=directlink There is actually a real bar end shifter made by a company called Jtek that is specifically made for the Nexus hubs. I am not sure about Sturmey Archers. Here is a link to the page on the Harris site that has a bunch of the hardware: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/shimano-nexus.html Although I had the bike set up for me, I believe an important part of the setup is determining the correct anti-rotation washer to get that will match the angle of your dropouts. The washer will set the angle of the part of the hub (called a cassette joint on the Nexus) that receives the shifter cable. There is a pretty good diagram of this on the Harris page linked to above. I love my setup with the Nexus. I do everything from commuting to centuries on it. However, I did just get a Rambouillet... Steve On Sep 2, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Eric Norris wrote: I know that someone (perhaps more than one) on this list has put a Sturmey Archer or similar hub on their QB. I'm looking for photos and tips on how to do it (e.g. how to mount the shifter on drop bars and the routing/attachment of the shift cable). Thanks! --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Mixte Frames to Riv-up?
Trek also made a mixte that had the single top tube and then center stays back to the dropouts. Something else to look for, even if you forgo the single top tube, is for the brakes to be on the center stay rather than up top. It gives MUCH better cable routing... Doug On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Weird Harold alanpcr...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm searching for a mixte frame for my wife to Riv-up with nicer components. Any brand/models of mixtes I should be searching for on Craiglist? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Multi-Speed Quickbeam
Eric: I do not have a Quickbeam. But on a bike I am building with an Alfine hub, I am going to try this little gadget at first: http://jtekengineering.com/jtek_bar-end_shifter.htm Visually it is less obtrusive than some of the other shifter mount options. I cannot comment on how well it works as I have not set the bike up yet. On Sep 2, 11:46 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I know that someone (perhaps more than one) on this list has put a Sturmey Archer or similar hub on their QB. I'm looking for photos and tips on how to do it (e.g. how to mount the shifter on drop bars and the routing/attachment of the shift cable). Thanks! --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Multi-Speed Quickbeam
It's been done, search the archives you will find something I am sure. As always I ask why. Why take the perfect single speed bike and add gears to it? To each. Larry Powers just when you think that you've been gyped the bearded lady comes and does a double back flip - John Hiatt From: campyonly...@me.com Subject: [RBW] Multi-Speed Quickbeam Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:46:09 -0700 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I know that someone (perhaps more than one) on this list has put a Sturmey Archer or similar hub on their QB. I'm looking for photos and tips on how to do it (e.g. how to mount the shifter on drop bars and the routing/attachment of the shift cable). Thanks! --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Multi-Speed Quickbeam
I just installed a Shimano Alfine 8 on an old bike with drops, and it works beautifully. Highly recommended. Harris Cyclery's site shows a number of ways to mount a shifter; the most elegant is a bar-end shifter made for the Alfine. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Norris Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:46 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Multi-Speed Quickbeam I know that someone (perhaps more than one) on this list has put a Sturmey Archer or similar hub on their QB. I'm looking for photos and tips on how to do it (e.g. how to mount the shifter on drop bars and the routing/attachment of the shift cable). Thanks! --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any email, and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Multi-Speed Quickbeam
Cool! I'm looking at an 8-speed Sturmey Archer hub, so this would be perfect. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Sep 2, 2009, at 10:02 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: Eric: I do not have a Quickbeam. But on a bike I am building with an Alfine hub, I am going to try this little gadget at first: http://jtekengineering.com/jtek_bar-end_shifter.htm Visually it is less obtrusive than some of the other shifter mount options. I cannot comment on how well it works as I have not set the bike up yet. On Sep 2, 11:46 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I know that someone (perhaps more than one) on this list has put a Sturmey Archer or similar hub on their QB. I'm looking for photos and tips on how to do it (e.g. how to mount the shifter on drop bars and the routing/attachment of the shift cable). Thanks! --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Multi-Speed Quickbeam
Hey Eric, It was written up in the 'Reader at some point. No offense to that bike owner, but I didn't care for mounting the shifter on the stem quill. The old British location for the shifter was below the right brake lever and rotated in a bit. You could also mount it up top againt the sleeve/bulged section or even on the 26.0 section by using a longer bolt. I would probably go for the old skool spot, but I haven't tried either myself. P.S. This is pretty cool, but more work: http://www.geocities.com/cyqlist/redcay.html. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I know that someone (perhaps more than one) on this list has put a Sturmey Archer or similar hub on their QB. I'm looking for photos and tips on how to do it (e.g. how to mount the shifter on drop bars and the routing/attachment of the shift cable). Thanks! --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Multi-Speed Quickbeam
on 9/2/09 9:46 AM, Eric Norris at campyonly...@me.com wrote: I know that someone (perhaps more than one) on this list has put a Sturmey Archer or similar hub on their QB. I'm looking for photos and tips on how to do it (e.g. how to mount the shifter on drop bars and the routing/attachment of the shift cable). RR#37 Scan here - http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/quickbeam scroll down to Brian Rigs his Quickbeam with a Sturmey-Archer Hub hope that helps, - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Get your photos posted: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines Maybe a bike, once discarded, pines away year after year for the first hand that steered it, and as it grows old it dreams, in its bike way, of the young roads. -- Robert McCammon, Boy's Life --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet
I've been running a Sugino 110/74 as a 42/26 double for years. With a 11/34 cassette I get 103 to 21 which is good for day rides and touring. http://wheelsofchance.org/2009/08/28/if-the-answer-is-42-whats-the-question/ On Sep 1, 10:54 pm, Fai Mao i.am.fai@gmail.com wrote: I prefer a 48/38/24 triple. You have to be a little carefull shifting and use a friction front as no indexing will work with that. However, there are some steep hills up bad roads in Southern China where I live and a little lower gear is a good thing. I also like he 38 tooth chain wheel better than a 36. On Sep 1, 11:23 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So I'm currently running my Rambouillet with a double crankset (50/34) and an 8 speed cassette (11-28). I really have to admit that I just don't find pushing the 50 outer ring to be that enjoyable. I'm thinking of going to a 46. I'm using an FSA compact derailer. Will this combo work? Would I be better off going with a 48 outer chainring? My Hilsen has a 46 outer ring and I really like that. I guess I'm just curious if it'll shift okay. Right now I have DT shifters (Silver) and will probably go back to bar-end for the winter. Thanks, mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Multi-Speed Quickbeam
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 13:21 -0400, Larry Powers wrote: It's been done, search the archives you will find something I am sure. As always I ask why. Why take the perfect single speed bike and add gears to it? Why not? It already came with 4, it's just that the shifting was rather primitive and inconvenient. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Mixte Frames to Riv-up?
On Sep 2, 1:19 pm, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: Trek also made a mixte that had the single top tube and then center stays back to the dropouts. Something else to look for, even if you forgo the single top tube, is for the brakes to be on the center stay rather than up top. It gives MUCH better cable routing... That'd be the 1984 Trek 420L. Built one for my S.O. w/high rise stem, dove bars, 8-speed IG, 700c paselas, fenders, front basket, etc. It's a great bike for her: fun/ easy to use, comfortable, and surprisingly lightweight. She loves it. Near Detroit by chance? http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/bik/1312451846.html John McMurry Burlington, VT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Multi-Speed Quickbeam
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Eric Norriscampyonly...@me.com wrote: I know that someone (perhaps more than one) on this list has put a Sturmey Archer or similar hub on their QB. I'm looking for photos and tips on how to do it (e.g. how to mount the shifter on drop bars and the routing/attachment of the shift cable). On a related note, it looks like the new Sturmey fixed S3X 3-speed hub is moving ahead. Sturmey had Curt Ingless build 4 custom frames to show off new parts, one of which will be a 3-speed fixed bike. Along with it will be a new thumbshifter and bar-end shifter that they're also showing downtube-mounted. http://sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspot.com/search?q=s3x -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road
Excellent question! (you mean Roadeo vs Ebisu Road, right? There seems to be very little feedback out there on the Ebisu Road. Most of what I found is related to the Ebisu All-Purpose. I'd love to hear from someone who owns an Ebisu road model. That said, what I have read says that Jitensha build quality is excellent and I would suspect that the Ebisu Road model is a very fine road bike. The geometry charts indicates that it is pretty sporty. There aren't/any many others in the price range that have as nicely curved a fork as the Ebisu Road. The price is certainly better than the Riv Roadeo, and Mr. Iimura seems willing to make custom changes for a very reasonable additional fee. If I didn't already have a Rambouillet, I would get an Ebisu Road. The question I have is why isn't the Ebisu Road more popular? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Multi-Speed Quickbeam
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 10:36 -0700, Doug Van Cleve wrote: Hey Eric, It was written up in the 'Reader at some point. No offense to that bike owner, but I didn't care for mounting the shifter on the stem quill. The old British location for the shifter was below the right brake lever and rotated in a bit. You could also mount it up top againt the sleeve/bulged section or even on the 26.0 section by using a longer bolt. I would probably go for the old skool spot, but I haven't tried either myself. I had a 3 speed with drop bars I commuted on during the 1st Gas Crisis. I had the trigger mounted up against the sleeved section. It was great, a nearly ideal location. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road
$2k for a Riv/Waterford Roadie or $1.5k for a Ebisu Road. Discuss I have no first hand experience, and Riv final geometry isn't published, but here's how available (to me) info says they differ: Roadeo: USA made, Ebisu, Japan made Geometry: Roadeo has slightly longer chainstays (say 430 cm versus 415 - 425 cm), slightly lower bottom bracket, both claim clearance for 28 mm tire width with fenders Brakes: Roadeo uses standard reach brakes, unsure of Ebisu (website says sidepull brakes) Tubing gauge: Roadeo uses thin wall standard oversized diameter tubing, I think the Ebisu uses standard diameter tubing, likely somewhat heavier Fork: Roadeo offers choice of threaded or threadless, looks like the Ebisu is threaded I have read consistently positive reports re: Ebisu bicycles, and similar positives for Rivendell. The Ebisu sounds like a bit more of a traditional road bike in the geometry, the Riv Roadeo has the Riv signature of slightly longer chainstays and lower bottom bracket. The biggest differences I see (apart from price) are: a) which business (es) do you want to support, b) feelings about USA versus overseas production (some would pay more to support), c) tubing gauges/ diameters, and d) slight geometry differences. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 13:33 -0700, Steve Park wrote: The question I have is why isn't the Ebisu Road more popular? Maybe because you can only get it from Jitensha Studios. A year or two ago a woman from Berkeley CA wrote on the BOB list asking about a good bike shop in her area. I told her about Jitensha. She'd never heard of it. Next day, she wrote to say she walked to work and went right past the shop on her way to work every day, and never once noticed it. You know about it and I know about it and even it if weren't one of the coolest shops in the USA because of what it carries, it'd still be one of the coolest places to know about because it sits in a wrinkle in the space-time continuum that allows it to be located in the suburbs of Tokyo Japan while manifesting itself in Berkeley CA. But that doesn't mean enough people Out There know about it to make it popular. That's my theory, anyway. ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Considering an AHH - Advice sought
For some other things you won't have to think about with your steel bike, see http://www.bustedcarbon.com/. Good luck to your carbonized friends. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road
I covet an Ebisu. I'd love to dive into Hiroshi's idiosyncrasies. That being said, Grant's designs are dependable and rather wonderful in terms of ride quality. It will be fun to jump onto a Roadeo one day to see how it feels. On Sep 2, 2:01 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 13:33 -0700, Steve Park wrote: The question I have is why isn't the Ebisu Road more popular? Maybe because you can only get it from Jitensha Studios. A year or two ago a woman from Berkeley CA wrote on the BOB list asking about a good bike shop in her area. I told her about Jitensha. She'd never heard of it. Next day, she wrote to say she walked to work and went right past the shop on her way to work every day, and never once noticed it. You know about it and I know about it and even it if weren't one of the coolest shops in the USA because of what it carries, it'd still be one of the coolest places to know about because it sits in a wrinkle in the space-time continuum that allows it to be located in the suburbs of Tokyo Japan while manifesting itself in Berkeley CA. But that doesn't mean enough people Out There know about it to make it popular. That's my theory, anyway. ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Mixte Frames to Riv-up?
The Schwinn Mixte I was refering to is called the Mesa Runner. Here is a link that shows one in the Schwinn cataloge from the 80s http://www.trfindley.com/flschwinn_1980_1990/1985_atb08.html Have fun with the build On Sep 1, 5:47 am, Weird Harold alanpcr...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm searching for a mixte frame for my wife to Riv-up with nicer components. Any brand/models of mixtes I should be searching for on Craiglist? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road
I own 4 bikes. My favorite is my Rambouillet, but the one I end up putting the most miles on is the Ebisu All Purpose. It's better for bad roads and hauling stuff which is what I do most days. BTW, my cycling season, which began quite late after foot surgery seems to be ending early with crippling back pain. As WC Fields said, Oh my sacroiliac, quick run to the golf course and get me a doctor! Got a referral for PT today but I'm afraid it may be awhile before I'm able to ride again. We were supposed to spend last weekend cycling in the Eastern Townships of southern Quebeck but ended up touring in our new 2010 Prius instead. Too bad, because it looked like great riding roads and paths. Michael On Sep 2, 5:16 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I covet an Ebisu. I'd love to dive into Hiroshi's idiosyncrasies. That being said, Grant's designs are dependable and rather wonderful in terms of ride quality. It will be fun to jump onto a Roadeo one day to see how it feels. On Sep 2, 2:01 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 13:33 -0700, Steve Park wrote: The question I have is why isn't the Ebisu Road more popular? Maybe because you can only get it from Jitensha Studios. A year or two ago a woman from Berkeley CA wrote on the BOB list asking about a good bike shop in her area. I told her about Jitensha. She'd never heard of it. Next day, she wrote to say she walked to work and went right past the shop on her way to work every day, and never once noticed it. You know about it and I know about it and even it if weren't one of the coolest shops in the USA because of what it carries, it'd still be one of the coolest places to know about because it sits in a wrinkle in the space-time continuum that allows it to be located in the suburbs of Tokyo Japan while manifesting itself in Berkeley CA. But that doesn't mean enough people Out There know about it to make it popular. That's my theory, anyway. ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Multi-Speed Quickbeam
On a related note, it looks like the new Sturmey fixed S3X 3-speed hub is moving ahead. Sturmey had Curt Ingless build 4 custom frames to show off new parts, one of which will be a 3-speed fixed bike. Along with it will be a new thumbshifter and bar-end shifter that they're also showing downtube-mounted. Curtis is making the Alfine equipped bike which will get Jtek shifter. I asked. Unfortunately at this point in time that swell down tube shifter only works with the three speeds. I imagine there will be a downtube shifter for 8 speeds at some time or another. By then, my bike will have been painted, etc. Maybe if I do not really like the paint, later on I can return to Curtis for an upgrade. On Sep 2, 3:19 pm, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Eric Norriscampyonly...@me.com wrote: I know that someone (perhaps more than one) on this list has put a Sturmey Archer or similar hub on their QB. I'm looking for photos and tips on how to do it (e.g. how to mount the shifter on drop bars and the routing/attachment of the shift cable). On a related note, it looks like the new Sturmey fixed S3X 3-speed hub is moving ahead. Sturmey had Curt Ingless build 4 custom frames to show off new parts, one of which will be a 3-speed fixed bike. Along with it will be a new thumbshifter and bar-end shifter that they're also showing downtube-mounted. http://sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspot.com/search?q=s3x -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road
Good luck Michael. I was almost unable to walk due to SI pain (due to arthritis) two years ago. A couple months of PT led to weekly and still ongoing sessions with a trainer. The SI problem is now a thing of the past, but the arthritis in my neck is not. I've had a Hillborne for about a month now, and the Riv-ability to get the handlebars up high has made my riding pain free for the first time in a while. Hope your experience is as good. Adam -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MichaelH Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 5:39 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road I own 4 bikes. My favorite is my Rambouillet, but the one I end up putting the most miles on is the Ebisu All Purpose. It's better for bad roads and hauling stuff which is what I do most days. BTW, my cycling season, which began quite late after foot surgery seems to be ending early with crippling back pain. As WC Fields said, Oh my sacroiliac, quick run to the golf course and get me a doctor! Got a referral for PT today but I'm afraid it may be awhile before I'm able to ride again. We were supposed to spend last weekend cycling in the Eastern Townships of southern Quebeck but ended up touring in our new 2010 Prius instead. Too bad, because it looked like great riding roads and paths. Michael On Sep 2, 5:16 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I covet an Ebisu. I'd love to dive into Hiroshi's idiosyncrasies. That being said, Grant's designs are dependable and rather wonderful in terms of ride quality. It will be fun to jump onto a Roadeo one day to see how it feels. On Sep 2, 2:01 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 13:33 -0700, Steve Park wrote: The question I have is why isn't the Ebisu Road more popular? Maybe because you can only get it from Jitensha Studios. A year or two ago a woman from Berkeley CA wrote on the BOB list asking about a good bike shop in her area. I told her about Jitensha. She'd never heard of it. Next day, she wrote to say she walked to work and went right past the shop on her way to work every day, and never once noticed it. You know about it and I know about it and even it if weren't one of the coolest shops in the USA because of what it carries, it'd still be one of the coolest places to know about because it sits in a wrinkle in the space-time continuum that allows it to be located in the suburbs of Tokyo Japan while manifesting itself in Berkeley CA. But that doesn't mean enough people Out There know about it to make it popular. That's my theory, anyway. ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: women's bikes
That's a tough question. I remember shopping for a new bike with my daughter who is 5'5 and we never saw a decent road bike that fit her on the floor of a bike shop. She ended up ordering a small SOMA frame from a one man shop with the skill and knowledge to make sure it was what she needed fit wise and wanted ride wise. At 5'1 - 3 you probably can't get a good fit ride with 700c wheels. So they will need to look at frames for 26 or 650 wheels. That will limit the selection. They might start with a web search. An entry level Bilenkey might be a good bike to look at first, at least they would begin to see what they got for $1500 frame, vs what the LBS had to offer them. Good luck and let us know how this project goes. Michae On Sep 2, 6:03 pm, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps slightly off-topic, but I seek the collective wisdom of the group. I have two female friends who want to get into cycling. They are both fairly athletic and are looking for a sporty sort of bike that they can use on club rides. Neither has the cash for a Roadeo, assuming they could even fit one (at 5'1 and 5'3 they are both probably too short anyway). Obviously, they're looking into off-the-peg women's-specific bike by the big makers (Trek, Specialized, etc.). But if I wanted to steer them towards a steel bike with at least the possibility of taking some Rol-y Pol-y tires, where might I look for something easy on the pocketbook (and largely off-the-peg) without going custom like Luna Cycles? Also, can anyone offer any sizing tips for women for women of their stature, assuming they want something of a sporty fit with bars at or just below saddle height? Thanks, Aaron --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Roadie vs Ebisu Road
$2k for a Riv/Waterford Roadie or $1.5k for a Ebisu Road. Discuss --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: women's bikes
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 15:32 -0700, MichaelH wrote: That's a tough question. I remember shopping for a new bike with my daughter who is 5'5 and we never saw a decent road bike that fit her on the floor of a bike shop. How long ago was that? There are many women in my bike club who are very happy with the WSD Treks. She ended up ordering a small SOMA frame from a one man shop with the skill and knowledge to make sure it was what she needed fit wise and wanted ride wise. At 5'1 - 3 you probably can't get a good fit ride with 700c wheels. So they will need to look at frames for 26 or 650 wheels. Note that that'll probably mean 650C wheels. There aren't many road bikes made for 559 wheels. The big downside to 650C is that almost all the tires available for it are 23mm or narrower. That will limit the selection. They might start with a web search. An entry level Bilenkey might be a good bike to look at first, at least they would begin to see what they got for $1500 frame, vs what the LBS had to offer them. Yes, I should certainly hope so, since Bilenky is one of the top tier custom builders! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Multi-Speed Quickbeam
Sturmey Archer's 8-speed hub starts at 115mm and goes up from there with spacers. It should fit the QB just fine. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Sep 2, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Andy.M wrote: If memory serves me, the QB rear spacing is 120mm, which I believe eliminates most internal gear hubs. I think sram makes a 5 speed, but the 8 speeds are too wide. On Sep 2, 11:18�am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Cool! �I'm looking at an 8-speed Sturmey Archer hub, so this would be � perfect. --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org On Sep 2, 2009, at 10:02 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: Eric: I do not have a Quickbeam. �But on a bike I am building with an Alfine hub, I am going to try this little gadget at first: http://jtekengineering.com/jtek_bar-end_shifter.htm Visually it is less obtrusive than some of the other shifter mount options. �I cannot comment on how well it works as I have not set the bike up yet. On Sep 2, 11:46 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I know that someone (perhaps more than one) on this list has put a Sturmey Archer or similar hub on their QB. �I'm looking for photos � and tips on how to do it (e.g. how to mount the shifter on drop bars and the routing/attachment of the shift cable). Thanks! --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: women's bikes
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 17:20 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Note that that'll probably mean 650C wheels. There aren't many road bikes made for 559 wheels. The big downside to 650C is that almost all the tires available for it are 23mm or narrower. A frame that fits 650c wheels will easily accept 559 wheels with, perhaps, a change of brakes: the radial difference is only 1/4 inch. Put a 32 mm tire on a 559 rim and it will be about 1/2 bigger in diameter than a 571X23, ie 24.74 inches (1.25 Pasela) to 25 inches (Fatboy, Tioga City Slicker). Do you think that would fit in a frame designed for 650C x 23? Also, from a thread some little while ago, it does appear that there are one or two 571 tires of at least nominal 28 mm width -- I've forgotten what they are. I know of one, the Terry Tellus. I know a woman who had them. She disliked them very much, and tried to sell them. After months of trying she couldn't find a buyer. My Rivs easily take both 559 and 571 rims; in fact, one (the gofast) has 571s, the commuter has 559s. Yes, but your Riv was designed for 559s by a guy who is well known to like wide tires. How comparable are your Riv frames to a WSD bike meant for 650C x 23? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] I'm looking for a Nitto Stem with Less Reach
I have a technomic deluxe 10cm stem. I am looking for something that gets the bars closer; such as a dirt drop, periscopa, or a shorter technomic (8cm). I almost forgot, I need a 26 mm clamp. Let me know if any of you are interested. Thanks, Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Converting Riv road for cyclocross
I'm thinking about converting my Riv road (w/centerpulls) for Fall amateur-hour cyclocross (going to my first clinic tonight). I was planning to use my old vintage fenderless Trek 420 but I'm not sure if the weinmann calipers will hold up in muddy conditions (I THINK I could retrofit the bike with slightly wider cross tires). Any suggestions for 650b type cross tires or other possible points of conversion. Wondering if it would be better to set up bike as a single speed or maybe switch over to single chainring in front, seven speed block in back with a more burly derailleur). What do other folks who run mountainbike-ish road bikes use in the way of tires and drivetrain set-ups?? Let me know what you think. Lesli Larson Eugene, OR (now, I'm wishing I hadn't sold off my xo-1. It would have been perfect for this type of use) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: women's bikes
The Jamis Quest Femme and Satellite Femme, both steel, might be worth looking at. Both bikes are on the Jamis website, www.jamisbikes.com. Good luck. On Sep 2, 5:03 pm, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps slightly off-topic, but I seek the collective wisdom of the group. I have two female friends who want to get into cycling. They are both fairly athletic and are looking for a sporty sort of bike that they can use on club rides. Neither has the cash for a Roadeo, assuming they could even fit one (at 5'1 and 5'3 they are both probably too short anyway). Obviously, they're looking into off-the-peg women's-specific bike by the big makers (Trek, Specialized, etc.). But if I wanted to steer them towards a steel bike with at least the possibility of taking some Rol-y Pol-y tires, where might I look for something easy on the pocketbook (and largely off-the-peg) without going custom like Luna Cycles? Also, can anyone offer any sizing tips for women for women of their stature, assuming they want something of a sporty fit with bars at or just below saddle height? Thanks, Aaron --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] women's bikes
Perhaps slightly off-topic, but I seek the collective wisdom of the group. I have two female friends who want to get into cycling. They are both fairly athletic and are looking for a sporty sort of bike that they can use on club rides. Neither has the cash for a Roadeo, assuming they could even fit one (at 5'1 and 5'3 they are both probably too short anyway). Obviously, they're looking into off-the-peg women's-specific bike by the big makers (Trek, Specialized, etc.). But if I wanted to steer them towards a steel bike with at least the possibility of taking some Rol-y Pol-y tires, where might I look for something easy on the pocketbook (and largely off-the-peg) without going custom like Luna Cycles? Also, can anyone offer any sizing tips for women for women of their stature, assuming they want something of a sporty fit with bars at or just below saddle height? Thanks, Aaron --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road
I have owned two Romulus' and now have an Ebisu All Purpose, and my wife just got a road model. I think for me the main difference is tubing--where the Romulus had oversized down tube and top tube, and Ebisu can be had with standard (25.4 or 28.6) tubes. The ebisu road is certainly sportier than the romulus, and takes basically the same size tires (uses standard reach brakes). it doesn't come stock with rack braze-ons, but is definitely fitted for fenders. The Ebisus are mostly built by a NJG small builder in Japan, who is really a custom builder doing a batch of semi-production work. You can actually get your Ebisu built by Toei for a $400 up charge. I have been really happy with my Romulus, and am curious about the roadeo, but for $1600, i got to have custom geometry, and pick my own color for my eibsu, it's really a great deal! franklyn On Sep 2, 3:23 pm, Greg Jung gregkj...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have an Ebisu, but I did buy an early Waterford Riv Road from Hiroshi at Jitensha Studios back in the late 90s. I believe Hiroshi had bought at least 2 (there was a tall rose pink one and a light blue one) early Rivs when Riv was starting out. Also, I first saw a Riv catalog at Jitensha Studios back then. Many of you know this, but lore has it that Grant used to hang out at Jitensha in the pre-Riv days, and Hiroshi influenced Grant's design philosophy. Obviously, Grant's thoughts have evolved since then (and probably diverged from Hiroshi's in some respects). But I would say the two are close relatives, and differences would be very subtle. On Sep 2, 2:39 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I own 4 bikes. My favorite is my Rambouillet, but the one I end up putting the most miles on is the Ebisu All Purpose. It's better for bad roads and hauling stuff which is what I do most days. BTW, my cycling season, which began quite late after foot surgery seems to be ending early with crippling back pain. As WC Fields said, Oh my sacroiliac, quick run to the golf course and get me a doctor! Got a referral for PT today but I'm afraid it may be awhile before I'm able to ride again. We were supposed to spend last weekend cycling in the Eastern Townships of southern Quebeck but ended up touring in our new 2010 Prius instead. Too bad, because it looked like great riding roads and paths. Michael On Sep 2, 5:16 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I covet an Ebisu. I'd love to dive into Hiroshi's idiosyncrasies. That being said, Grant's designs are dependable and rather wonderful in terms of ride quality. It will be fun to jump onto a Roadeo one day to see how it feels. On Sep 2, 2:01 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 13:33 -0700, Steve Park wrote: The question I have is why isn't the Ebisu Road more popular? Maybe because you can only get it from Jitensha Studios. A year or two ago a woman from Berkeley CA wrote on the BOB list asking about a good bike shop in her area. I told her about Jitensha. She'd never heard of it. Next day, she wrote to say she walked to work and went right past the shop on her way to work every day, and never once noticed it. You know about it and I know about it and even it if weren't one of the coolest shops in the USA because of what it carries, it'd still be one of the coolest places to know about because it sits in a wrinkle in the space-time continuum that allows it to be located in the suburbs of Tokyo Japan while manifesting itself in Berkeley CA. But that doesn't mean enough people Out There know about it to make it popular. That's my theory, anyway. ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Converting Riv road for cyclocross
I'm sure your Riv will work better than any of these bikes. Note the primitive descending technique. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkcKdOthhzgfeature=PlayListp=C078472CE3496A5Fplaynext=1playnext_from=PLindex=14 An hour of cyclocross seems more painful than a 600k. Are you sure you want to go down this road? --mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Considering an AHH - Advice sought
I just got in from doing a 106 or so mile ride on my Hilsen. As I was heading out of town and up the first climb I was passed by three riders on very nice looking carbon bikes. They were friendly enough as they passed me. I probably could have stayed with them if I put in a heroic and ride ending effort. But I was on a solo ride celebrating my 43rd birthday and was happy to watch them pedal away from me. I doubt they really cared what I was riding although others would have written off as a Barney with my seat bag, fenders and 700x35 tires. The Hilsen performed flawlessly. Sure I could have maybe done it a little faster on a lighter bike but I was comfortable the entire ride, had no flats, had every gear I needed, and was able to carry everything I needed in my seatbag. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/3883006142/ I can totally appreciate modern carbon road bikes and that for some people those bikes are perfect for their needs. The Hilsen was perfect for my needs today. --mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road
I don't have an Ebisu, but I did buy an early Waterford Riv Road from Hiroshi at Jitensha Studios back in the late 90s. I believe Hiroshi had bought at least 2 (there was a tall rose pink one and a light blue one) early Rivs when Riv was starting out. Also, I first saw a Riv catalog at Jitensha Studios back then. Many of you know this, but lore has it that Grant used to hang out at Jitensha in the pre-Riv days, and Hiroshi influenced Grant's design philosophy. Obviously, Grant's thoughts have evolved since then (and probably diverged from Hiroshi's in some respects). But I would say the two are close relatives, and differences would be very subtle. On Sep 2, 2:39 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I own 4 bikes. My favorite is my Rambouillet, but the one I end up putting the most miles on is the Ebisu All Purpose. It's better for bad roads and hauling stuff which is what I do most days. BTW, my cycling season, which began quite late after foot surgery seems to be ending early with crippling back pain. As WC Fields said, Oh my sacroiliac, quick run to the golf course and get me a doctor! Got a referral for PT today but I'm afraid it may be awhile before I'm able to ride again. We were supposed to spend last weekend cycling in the Eastern Townships of southern Quebeck but ended up touring in our new 2010 Prius instead. Too bad, because it looked like great riding roads and paths. Michael On Sep 2, 5:16 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I covet an Ebisu. I'd love to dive into Hiroshi's idiosyncrasies. That being said, Grant's designs are dependable and rather wonderful in terms of ride quality. It will be fun to jump onto a Roadeo one day to see how it feels. On Sep 2, 2:01 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 13:33 -0700, Steve Park wrote: The question I have is why isn't the Ebisu Road more popular? Maybe because you can only get it from Jitensha Studios. A year or two ago a woman from Berkeley CA wrote on the BOB list asking about a good bike shop in her area. I told her about Jitensha. She'd never heard of it. Next day, she wrote to say she walked to work and went right past the shop on her way to work every day, and never once noticed it. You know about it and I know about it and even it if weren't one of the coolest shops in the USA because of what it carries, it'd still be one of the coolest places to know about because it sits in a wrinkle in the space-time continuum that allows it to be located in the suburbs of Tokyo Japan while manifesting itself in Berkeley CA. But that doesn't mean enough people Out There know about it to make it popular. That's my theory, anyway. ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Considering an AHH - Advice sought
The problem with making choices is not what you get, but what you have to give up. That's why so many people on this list, myself included, own multiple bikes. Here's some thinking on your situation. The Hilson is probably not the optimal choice for keeping up with a rider of equal strength on a carbon fiber, one trick, go fast bike. But it is a great choice for everything else you want to do. So why give up everything else for that one goal? The biggest difference between a typical AHH a racing bike is not the weight of the frame but the weight of the wheels. I would buy the AHH put the bar ends on it. That will save you at least $250 and unless you're racing it doesn't make much difference ( Down tube shifters are faster than SIS in most situations, but bar ends are more convenient and just as fast as SIS). After the bike is paid for you can consider a second set of wheels, using the money you saved by not getting brifters. The second set of wheels could be light weight, go fast wheels. Skip the racks and fenders until you're convinced you need / want them. Get a good size saddle wedge or a Carradice Barley, which you can shed when you think the extra weight will be a handicap. The most important thing you need for fun riding is the getting the right attitude. The most important race is the human race and the goal of life is not to make everything end sooner. There will always be riders out there who can go faster than you and others who will benefit when you slow down a say a word of encouragement. Keep the rubber side down the sunny side up. Michael On Aug 31, 3:55 pm, Erik elang...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all: I am in the market for a lugged steel frame, and am about ready to pull the trigger on an A. Homer Hilsen. Based on my needs (described below), I would greatly appreciate any guidance as to whether or not this is the right bike for me, and how I might choose the right tires. I live in Boulder and plan to use the bike primarily for road riding in/around Colorado, so there will be a significant amount of climbing involved. There are also quite a few gravel paths that I would like to take advantage of around my house. I have no experience camping or doing longer multi-day trips, but the concept intrigues me. Basically, I do not currently own a bicycle, so I want this bike to serve all of my needs. My largest concern is this: most of my friends and neighbors go on 3 - 4 hour rides up into the mountains on their super-light carbon frames. Is there a way for me to set up the AHH so that it is functional on mellow gravel roads, but also keeps up with my friends on the steep climbs? Will a 32 tire work for this? I would prefer to only own one set of tires if this is possible. And I am leaning towards building the bike with bar-end shifters. Any reason I should consider otherwise? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road
Change the wheels and crank. You already have a great frame. Michael On Sep 2, 8:07 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: I posed the question because I already have a Rambouillet and I've been thinking of getting a bike with a more aggressive geometry to built up as a fast bike. When I saw the geometry on the Roadeo I worried that it wasn't sufficiently different from the Ram also the cost was a bit steep, so I thought of the Ebisu Road which looks plenty aggressive while still taking standard reach brakes and having good tyre clearance. I'm now dreaming of an Ebisu Road with some dura- ace hubs, mavic open pros, and a sugino alpina or TA carmina crank --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Mixte Frames to Riv-up?
I'm in New York City. My wife is 5'4'. Betty Foys are beautiful. I saw one in the city two weeks ago. But it's out of my price range. I'm thinking of a bike for a couple of hundred, and then put in another couple hundred to fix up with Riv/Velo-Orange parts.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: women's bikes
48cm Sam Hillborne? Possibly outside their price range, but a big problem people make is getting too cheap a first bike, then having to re-invest with a better second bike. The top tube might still be too long for them, but if not, the rise on it could allow them to fit a smaller frame. DE On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.comwrote: Perhaps slightly off-topic, but I seek the collective wisdom of the group. I have two female friends who want to get into cycling. They are both fairly athletic and are looking for a sporty sort of bike that they can use on club rides. Neither has the cash for a Roadeo, assuming they could even fit one (at 5'1 and 5'3 they are both probably too short anyway). Obviously, they're looking into off-the-peg women's-specific bike by the big makers (Trek, Specialized, etc.). But if I wanted to steer them towards a steel bike with at least the possibility of taking some Rol-y Pol-y tires, where might I look for something easy on the pocketbook (and largely off-the-peg) without going custom like Luna Cycles? Also, can anyone offer any sizing tips for women for women of their stature, assuming they want something of a sporty fit with bars at or just below saddle height? Thanks, Aaron -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Mixte Frames to Riv-up?
I built a Breeze up for my Mom. Really just swapped out the rear SA cog for a 22T one as it's geared REALLY low. Great bike! On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:03 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: They are a step up from the World Tourist (made by Giant in Taiwan, I believe), and certainly lighter than the old Varsity bike, which may have still been cranked out in Chicago back then. Was that the one you were thinking of? Seems Schwinn made them under a variety of names. But they all looked basically like this one for sale on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1973-SCHWINN-BREEZE-3-SPEED-26-LADIES-BICYCLE_W0QQitemZ190330929423QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c509b810f_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 These are decent bikes for the money all things considered. But they are not as attractive (at least to me, and presumably the rest of us lugged steel fans) nor as readibly open to the 'Riv-treatment' as your daughter's Le Tour. And even though it will fit my son by then, he probably won't want what he calls a girls bike. Yes. Unfortunately the women's bike designation is so ingrained in the thinking here in the U.S. that it would be hard for a young man to want to break the mold. Kids can be awfully mean to one another about those things. Mixtes were originally intended as delivery and errand bikes where the rider, male or female, had to mount and dismount frequently. That is still how people see them in many other nations around the globe. Somewhere along the line in the U.S. Mixtes became ladies bikes. Let's hope you can find some nice young woman deserving of the bike once your daughter gets too tall. On Sep 1, 9:35 pm, John Aydelotte j.m.aydelo...@gmail.com wrote: It rides very well -- with the sprung saddle she get's a very smooth ride, even on rough city streets. Yes, the Le Tour series are quite nice, and this one was (from what I could glean online) made by Panasonic. There are still lots of them out there in garages and they pop up on Craigslist pretty frequently. They are a step up from the World Tourist (made by Giant in Taiwan, I believe), and certainly lighter than the old Varsity bike, which may have still been cranked out in Chicago back then. Was that the one you were thinking of? The original catalog page for the Le Tour Touriste can be seen here.http://www.trfindley.com/flschwinn_1980_1990/1981_10.html The Mixte isn't prominent, but the lower left photo shows one. My only regret is that she will be too tall for it in another year or two and will need something else. And even though it will fit my son by then, he probably won't want what he calls a girls bike. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:28 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: 1981 Schwinn Le Tour Mixte http://www.flickr.com/photos/aydelotte/2577031655/ ...which had a nice Japanese lugged frame, but otherwise rusty and/or broken components, and turned it into this: Thanks John. That really turned out well. When I warned against Schwinn earlier, I was thinking of the old Chicago cruiser models with the one piece crank, and old north american standard stem and seat post sizing. The Le Tour - I believe there was another as well, conform more readily to modern parts. And it has the nice center seat tube join design. I bet it rides pretty well. On Sep 1, 5:07 pm, John Aydelotte j.m.aydelo...@gmail.com wrote: Another vote for the Schwinn idea -- I took this Craigslist special: 1981 Schwinn Le Tour Mixte http://www.flickr.com/photos/aydelotte/2577031655/ ...which had a nice Japanese lugged frame, but otherwise rusty and/or broken components, and turned it into this: Birthday Mixte http://www.flickr.com/photos/aydelotte/2577051527/ ...for my daughter. I wouldn't call it Riv'd Up so much as Velo Oranged Up but I think the outcomes might be similar. The frame was stripped powder-coated locally, and my total cost was less than $400 plus some parts (saddle, pedals, brake levers) I had around the garage. I didn't want to spend a ton as she's gonna outgrow it in another year or two, but she loves the bike and gets more compliments on it than I do on my Atlantis. Good luck! On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:19 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Its a middle ground between a Betty and a Beater but have you considered Soma's Buena vista? Certainly good looking bike, and I really like the fork. For whatever reason, Soma went with the double skinny tube design with only a brace attaching to the seat tube. If the rider is not a tiny little thing or carries any sort of loads - and a mixte is meant to be an errand bike - the ride will be less than ideal. I have seen a lot of people on these bikes. But with all my 165 lbs to carry around,
[RBW] Re: I'm looking for a Nitto Stem with Less Reach
how much do you want for the stem? what condition is it in? On Sep 2, 1:49 pm, Tim timquij...@gmail.com wrote: I have a technomic deluxe 10cm stem. I am looking for something that gets the bars closer; such as a dirt drop, periscopa, or a shorter technomic (8cm). I almost forgot, I need a 26 mm clamp. Let me know if any of you are interested. Thanks, Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Considering an AHH - Advice sought
In a message dated 9/2/2009 8:11:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mhech...@gmail.com writes: The most important thing you need for fun riding is the getting the right attitude. The most important race is the human race and the goal of life is not to make everything end sooner. There will always be riders out there who can go faster than you and others who will benefit when you slow down a say a word of encouragement. I don't disagree with any of the above. It's all very noble but the bottom line is that he wants to keep up with his friends on fast one trick ponies and, I agree, Homer is not the bike for that. I love my Homer but I use him when I want to meander down a country lane at a comfortable pace. When I ride fast club 50 milers or centuries I use my Rambouillet or Specialized Roubaix. I agree with the suggestion someone had made yesterday. I would order the new Roadeo and have two sets of tires available for fast or off road rides. The Roadeo looks like it's going to be light and therefore fast, steel and thus comfortable, certainly beautiful, and capable of using tires that can handle the dirt. I've just recently gone over to the new Challenge tires (27 mm) and, my god, they are wonderful. They're very fast and super comfortable. I like them much better than the Grand Bois. How they would handle off road I don't know. Bill Louisville, KY --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road
i have both an ebiso road and a ram. the ebiso is much stiffer than the ram. also, because it has old-fashioned campy rear dropouts, it is difficult to mount large tires. also, you could install std reach brakes, but the brake bridges are too close for large tires. it appears that the new roadeo is much more flexible than the ebiso road.don --- On Wed, 9/2/09, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: From: usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 5:07 PM I posed the question because I already have a Rambouillet and I've been thinking of getting a bike with a more aggressive geometry to built up as a fast bike. When I saw the geometry on the Roadeo I worried that it wasn't sufficiently different from the Ram also the cost was a bit steep, so I thought of the Ebisu Road which looks plenty aggressive while still taking standard reach brakes and having good tyre clearance. I'm now dreaming of an Ebisu Road with some dura- ace hubs, mavic open pros, and a sugino alpina or TA carmina crank --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: women's bikes
Hi Aaron, My wife is 5'2 and looked a LOT of bikes before finally getting a 50cm Saluki. She liked the Jamis Satellite Femme and Specialized Dolce for fit, but wasn't too fond of the skinny tires. I think the Jamis had some sort of rack/fender issue too, but I don't quite remember. The Jamis was a real nice bike. Still has fairly skinny tires, but it is steel. We really weren't planning on spending the money on a bike like the Saluki, but as soon as she got on it, there really wasn't much left to decide. No toe overlap, reasonable tires, and a comfortable riding position sealed the deal. Of course, I could not stand looking at that beautiful bike everyday, so I had to get a Riv myself. Steve On Sep 2, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Aaron Thomas wrote: Perhaps slightly off-topic, but I seek the collective wisdom of the group. I have two female friends who want to get into cycling. They are both fairly athletic and are looking for a sporty sort of bike that they can use on club rides. Neither has the cash for a Roadeo, assuming they could even fit one (at 5'1 and 5'3 they are both probably too short anyway). Obviously, they're looking into off-the-peg women's-specific bike by the big makers (Trek, Specialized, etc.). But if I wanted to steer them towards a steel bike with at least the possibility of taking some Rol-y Pol-y tires, where might I look for something easy on the pocketbook (and largely off-the-peg) without going custom like Luna Cycles? Also, can anyone offer any sizing tips for women for women of their stature, assuming they want something of a sporty fit with bars at or just below saddle height? Thanks, Aaron --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Multi-Speed Quickbeam
It could be cold set, presumably. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy.M Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 3:07 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Multi-Speed Quickbeam If memory serves me, the QB rear spacing is 120mm, which I believe eliminates most internal gear hubs. I think sram makes a 5 speed, but the 8 speeds are too wide. On Sep 2, 11:18 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Cool! I'm looking at an 8-speed Sturmey Archer hub, so this would be perfect. --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org On Sep 2, 2009, at 10:02 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: Eric: I do not have a Quickbeam. But on a bike I am building with an Alfine hub, I am going to try this little gadget at first: http://jtekengineering.com/jtek_bar-end_shifter.htm Visually it is less obtrusive than some of the other shifter mount options. I cannot comment on how well it works as I have not set the bike up yet. On Sep 2, 11:46 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I know that someone (perhaps more than one) on this list has put a Sturmey Archer or similar hub on their QB. I'm looking for photos and tips on how to do it (e.g. how to mount the shifter on drop bars and the routing/attachment of the shift cable). Thanks! --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any email, and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: I'm looking for a Nitto Stem with Less Reach
Tim; I have a very lightly used 7cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe that I picked up from Rivendell this past spring for use with a mustache bar. Couldn't get used to the M-bar so the stem is in my parts box. If your interested, $35.00 and I'll cover shipping so long as it is CONUS. Peter Edwards Belding, MI From: Tim timquij...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 2:49:36 PM Subject: [RBW] I'm looking for a Nitto Stem with Less Reach I have a technomic deluxe 10cm stem. I am looking for something that gets the bars closer; such as a dirt drop, periscopa, or a shorter technomic (8cm). I almost forgot, I need a 26 mm clamp. Let me know if any of you are interested. Thanks, Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Mixte Frames to Riv-up?
Sorry for the slight thread drift, but I recently got an early 80s Azuki mixte that I am also planning to fix up with Riv parts. I'm a newbie in terms of bike mechanics. Can anyone recommend a good website or other online resource for fixing up older bikes? I need to figure out which brakes, brake levers, and things like that. Thanks! -Cheryl San Francisco, CA On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Weird Harold alanpcr...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm in New York City. My wife is 5'4'. Betty Foys are beautiful. I saw one in the city two weeks ago. But it's out of my price range. I'm thinking of a bike for a couple of hundred, and then put in another couple hundred to fix up with Riv/Velo-Orange parts.. -- “Do or do not... there is no try.” - Yoda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: women's bikes
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Richard rsv...@netzero.net wrote: The Jamis Quest Femme and Satellite Femme, both steel, might be worth looking at. Both bikes are on the Jamis website, www.jamisbikes.com. Good luck. On Sep 2, 5:03 pm, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps slightly off-topic, but I seek the collective wisdom of the group. I have two female friends who want to get into cycling. They are both fairly athletic and are looking for a sporty sort of bike that they can use on club rides. Neither has the cash for a Roadeo, assuming they could even fit one (at 5'1 and 5'3 they are both probably too short anyway). Obviously, they're looking into off-the-peg women's-specific bike by the big makers (Trek, Specialized, etc.). But if I wanted to steer them towards a steel bike with at least the possibility of taking some Rol-y Pol-y tires, where might I look for something easy on the pocketbook (and largely off-the-peg) without going custom like Luna Cycles? Also, can anyone offer any sizing tips for women for women of their stature, assuming they want something of a sporty fit with bars at or just below saddle height? Thanks, Aaron -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: women's bikes
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 17:20 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Note that that'll probably mean 650C wheels. There aren't many road bikes made for 559 wheels. The big downside to 650C is that almost all the tires available for it are 23mm or narrower. A frame that fits 650c wheels will easily accept 559 wheels with, perhaps, a change of brakes: the radial difference is only 1/4 inch. Put a 32 mm tire on a 559 rim and it will be about 1/2 bigger in diameter than a 571X23, ie 24.74 inches (1.25 Pasela) to 25 inches (Fatboy, Tioga City Slicker). Do you think that would fit in a frame designed for 650C x 23? A 571X23 measures about 24 1/2 in diameter; the Fatboy on a 559 measures about 25. So, as long as you have an extra 1/4 inch, and (2) as long as the fork is not stupid narrow under the crown, yes. Also, from a thread some little while ago, it does appear that there are one or two 571 tires of at least nominal 28 mm width -- I've forgotten what they are. I know of one, the Terry Tellus. I know a woman who had them. She disliked them very much, and tried to sell them. After months of trying she couldn't find a buyer. My Rivs easily take both 559 and 571 rims; in fact, one (the gofast) has 571s, the commuter has 559s. Yes, but your Riv was designed for 559s by a guy who is well known to like wide tires. How comparable are your Riv frames to a WSD bike meant for 650C x 23? I don't know what a WSD bike is, but, again, as long as you have an extra 1/4 inch in height and as long as you have 35 mm of width just under the fork blades, you will be fine. (WSD: Woman Specific Design? Wombat Satellite Domination? Weird and Silly Driveling? Wondering, Sighing Despair? Willie's Southern Diner? Wiping Down the Sink? Weebles Singing Dismally? Whoever Said Damn? Who Sings Ditties? Why Sling Darts? etc etc ad nauseam...) -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Mixte Frames to Riv-up?
Posters: please cut off the fat from the bottom of your posts. Thanks. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:11 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I built a Breeze up for my Mom. Really just swapped out the rear SA cog for a 22T one as it's geared REALLY low. Great bike! On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:03 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: They are a step up from the World Tourist (made by Giant in Taiwan, I believe), and certainly lighter than the old Varsity bike, which may have still been cranked out in Chicago back then. Was that the one you were thinking of? Seems Schwinn made them under a variety of names. But they all looked basically like this one for sale on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1973-SCHWINN-BREEZE-3-SPEED-26-LADIES-BICYCLE_W0QQitemZ190330929423QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c509b810f_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 These are decent bikes for the money all things considered. But they are not as attractive (at least to me, and presumably the rest of us lugged steel fans) nor as readibly open to the 'Riv-treatment' as your daughter's Le Tour. And even though it will fit my son by then, he probably won't want what he calls a girls bike. Yes. Unfortunately the women's bike designation is so ingrained in the thinking here in the U.S. that it would be hard for a young man to want to break the mold. Kids can be awfully mean to one another about those things. Mixtes were originally intended as delivery and errand bikes where the rider, male or female, had to mount and dismount frequently. That is still how people see them in many other nations around the globe. Somewhere along the line in the U.S. Mixtes became ladies bikes. Let's hope you can find some nice young woman deserving of the bike once your daughter gets too tall. On Sep 1, 9:35 pm, John Aydelotte j.m.aydelo...@gmail.com wrote: It rides very well -- with the sprung saddle she get's a very smooth ride, even on rough city streets. Yes, the Le Tour series are quite nice, and this one was (from what I could glean online) made by Panasonic. There are still lots of them out there in garages and they pop up on Craigslist pretty frequently. They are a step up from the World Tourist (made by Giant in Taiwan, I believe), and certainly lighter than the old Varsity bike, which may have still been cranked out in Chicago back then. Was that the one you were thinking of? The original catalog page for the Le Tour Touriste can be seen here.http://www.trfindley.com/flschwinn_1980_1990/1981_10.html The Mixte isn't prominent, but the lower left photo shows one. My only regret is that she will be too tall for it in another year or two and will need something else. And even though it will fit my son by then, he probably won't want what he calls a girls bike. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:28 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: 1981 Schwinn Le Tour Mixte http://www.flickr.com/photos/aydelotte/2577031655/ ...which had a nice Japanese lugged frame, but otherwise rusty and/or broken components, and turned it into this: Thanks John. That really turned out well. When I warned against Schwinn earlier, I was thinking of the old Chicago cruiser models with the one piece crank, and old north american standard stem and seat post sizing. The Le Tour - I believe there was another as well, conform more readily to modern parts. And it has the nice center seat tube join design. I bet it rides pretty well. On Sep 1, 5:07 pm, John Aydelotte j.m.aydelo...@gmail.com wrote: Another vote for the Schwinn idea -- I took this Craigslist special: 1981 Schwinn Le Tour Mixte http://www.flickr.com/photos/aydelotte/2577031655/ ...which had a nice Japanese lugged frame, but otherwise rusty and/or broken components, and turned it into this: Birthday Mixte http://www.flickr.com/photos/aydelotte/2577051527/ ...for my daughter. I wouldn't call it Riv'd Up so much as Velo Oranged Up but I think the outcomes might be similar. The frame was stripped powder-coated locally, and my total cost was less than $400 plus some parts (saddle, pedals, brake levers) I had around the garage. I didn't want to spend a ton as she's gonna outgrow it in another year or two, but she loves the bike and gets more compliments on it than I do on my Atlantis. Good luck! On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:19 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Its a middle ground between a Betty and a Beater but have you considered Soma's Buena vista? Certainly good looking bike, and I really like the fork. For whatever reason, Soma went with the double skinny tube design with only a brace attaching to the seat tube. If the rider is not a tiny little thing or carries any sort of loads - and a mixte is meant to be an
[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet
A, my eyes... they hurt But really, why get rid of the outside position? I would put a rock guard/bash ring on there. Seems a much better options than straight doing away with the ring. DE On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: With the popularity of 29ers, were seeing a start of some 110/74 doubles. The are essentially a refined 110/74 triple just made so you cannot put an outer ring on them. It's just as easy to not put a outer ring on your triple and you at least have an option to go back. Here's some from Rotor yeah the colors are what they are . . .put you get the idea of what can be done. http://www.rotorbikeusa.com/productMtbCrank.html Sugino showed one too...a photo shown here ...http://velo- orange.blogspot.com/2009/03/taipei-cycle-show-update-3.html It looks to be outboard bearing though. . . . the latest in the whirly-go- round of engineers with too much time on their hands trying to reinvent bike parts. LoL! The TA Carmina is champ of all BCD's . . . yeah it's a bit pricey at 4 bills . . . but like many Euro things . . .the loss of the Dollar has made it tough. But, it's not all that out of line . . . as the Zephyr last sold with rings from Riv for $275 in 2002. Look at the price % increases of PW FW hubs . . . . it's been soaring and there's no exchange rate involved. It is what it is . . . .. 48 or 50 isn't just for racing . . . I use a 48x13 top gear and I'm and average cyclist who lives on very hilly terrain . . . so I use it frequently. A 46 ring should be no problem on the FSA crankset as long as your doing friction . . .it's when people do the indexing F/R that things can get hair-pullingly specific. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Emailing: kesling bicycles 2005 003.jpg
I like this one a lot: http://www.hebie.de/Fixed-Guard-Kettenschutz-392.hebie3400.0.html Hebie has some pretty cool stuff! DE On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:50 AM, David Estescyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I checked out their site (Breezer), and they don't list it for sale. Right now moot point as it has derailers. check out these: http://www.hebie.de/Kettenschuetzer.6.0.html and http://www.bikefront.com/products/chainguards/703-Chainguard-for-38T-max -sv -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Converting Riv road for cyclocross
on 9/2/09 4:33 PM, Lesli at lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking about converting my Riv road (w/centerpulls) for Fall amateur-hour cyclocross (going to my first clinic tonight). I was planning to use my old vintage fenderless Trek 420 but I'm not sure if the weinmann calipers will hold up in muddy conditions (I THINK I could retrofit the bike with slightly wider cross tires). Any suggestions for 650b type cross tires or other possible points of conversion. Wondering if it would be better to set up bike as a single speed or maybe switch over to single chainring in front, seven speed block in back with a more burly derailleur). What do other folks who run mountainbike-ish road bikes use in the way of tires and drivetrain set-ups?? Let me know what you think. You'll probably get a much longer answer than you want, but here are a few thoughts to start - - Cross years are kinda like dog years, as far as gear is concerned. - Clearance is good, especially if you encounter mud. - Larger volume tires are better, because you will find that you can then run them at slightly lower pressure. 35 mm's is a good place to start, if you are thinking 700C/622 - A frame that allows clearance and larger volume tires is best, all other things being equal - Treaded tires with short knobs (what I usually refer to as knibblies) are helpful. Until the point when they aren't. By then, you are running. Unless it's a downhill, off-camber turn in the mud or soaked grass, at which point you're in slide-for-life mode. - Brakes, unless you are really fast, aren't important. Ok. Maybe they're important. But, they aren't _important_ important. I mean, I've never done a cross race where I was thinking, gee, I wish I could slow down... - Kickstand plates are not ideal for muddy, muddy condiions. http://tinyurl.com/cx-hilsen-plate Last year, I decided to use more gears on the course, and so engaged in the C. Xavier Hilsen Project, which is kinda what it sounds like you're considering. Result: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/3264957936/ The documentation begins here: http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=281 In terms of 650B, most of the grippy tires I've seen seem to be fairly large volume mtb tires, so that may be a challenge as it sounds like you'll be doing a conversion. Simple is good for gearing. The only problem with singlespeed is a climbing course (like McLaren Park in SF) or extended flat, paved sections. In the former, it's tough to come up with the right gearing setup, in the latter, you tend to be spun out while the multi-geared stomp away. But, cross is best approached with the intent to have fun and enjoy the mishaps. Run what you brung and have a blast! Hope that helps a bit, - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net One Cog - Zero Excuses L/S T-shirt - Now available http://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Converting Riv road for cyclocross
on 9/2/09 9:31 PM, David Estes at cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Given what you said, would Col de la Vie tires work ok? Seems as long as it wasn't too muddy they would have enough knob to hang on. I ran them in the dirt very successfully, but never racing in mud. They wouldn't be my first choice. It's mostly a question of holding a line in a loose corner, and I like to have a little more tread near the edges. The CdlV's seem a little smooth to me. I like to have the feeling that there's a bit of a bite as the lean angle increases. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace. William Gibson - All Tomorrow's Parties --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Converting Riv road for cyclocross
on 9/2/09 9:35 PM, CycloFiend at cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 9/2/09 9:31 PM, David Estes at cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Given what you said, would Col de la Vie tires work ok? Seems as long as it wasn't too muddy they would have enough knob to hang on. I ran them in the dirt very successfully, but never racing in mud. They wouldn't be my first choice. It's mostly a question of holding a line in a loose corner, and I like to have a little more tread near the edges. The CdlV's seem a little smooth to me. I like to have the feeling that there's a bit of a bite as the lean angle increases. Just to clarify - I definitely use the Jack Brown (Greens) on all kinds of trail conditions for general riding. I just wouldn't try to race cross on them. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I thought the idea was to waste the rest of our lives together.. -- Cyril, Breaking Away --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Converting Riv road for cyclocross
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:22 PM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: In terms of 650B, most of the grippy tires I've seen seem to be fairly large volume mtb tires, so that may be a challenge as it sounds like you'll be doing a conversion. Simple is good for gearing. The only problem with singlespeed is a climbing course (like McLaren Park in SF) or extended flat, paved sections. In the former, it's tough to come up with the right gearing setup, in the latter, you tend to be spun out while the multi-geared stomp away. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Given what you said, would Col de la Vie tires work ok? Seems as long as it wasn't too muddy they would have enough knob to hang on. I ran them in the dirt very successfully, but never racing in mud. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] stickstand (the all-natural clickstand)
Behold; http://tinyurl.com/stickstand I wanted to prop up my bicycle on a grassy knoll and all that was around was the stick pictured. Though too thin to support a downturned pedal, it was just right when propped on its end. I doubt think I'm the first to this, but it worked surprisingly well and I had never seen it before. I hope that's not *too* goofy, erik jensen -- berkeley, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Converting Riv road for cyclocross
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:35 PM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 9/2/09 9:31 PM, David Estes at cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Given what you said, would Col de la Vie tires work ok? Seems as long as it wasn't too muddy they would have enough knob to hang on. I ran them in the dirt very successfully, but never racing in mud. They wouldn't be my first choice. It's mostly a question of holding a line in a loose corner, and I like to have a little more tread near the edges. The CdlV's seem a little smooth to me. I like to have the feeling that there's a bit of a bite as the lean angle increases. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- Well shucks, I'm out of ideas. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: stickstand (the all-natural clickstand)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote: Behold; http://tinyurl.com/stickstand I wanted to prop up my bicycle on a grassy knoll and all that was around was the stick pictured. Though too thin to support a downturned pedal, it was just right when propped on its end. I doubt think I'm the first to this, but it worked surprisingly well and I had never seen it before. I hope that's not *too* goofy, We're all very happy for you, Erik. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
