[RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
Incredible video. I feel so lucky Rivendell exists. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Wq1tABZS9UQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Roadeo finally ordered!
You will love it. I have owned mine for i think has been 3 years + now. It is made in the USA, has wonderful lugs and I marvel at its beauty and ride quality. When I first ordered it and was going through the build with Mark I wanted to put the Rolly Polly tires on it. Mark said that the frame was designed for the 33. JB's. I was a little hesitant as I used the RP's on my previous Atlantis and Rambouillet and loved them. When the bike showed up and took it out for its first few rides I fell in love with the JB's and have them on the SimpleOne also. Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:50:08 AM Subject: [RBW] Roadeo finally ordered! Well, I did it! I ordered a Roadeo frameset. 53cm Ram Orange with cream accents, threaded fork (going to use my Nitto lugged stem). When the custom raffle was going on, I bought a gift certificate just so I could get entered into the raffle. I didn't win, of course, so I am using the gift certificate on the Roadeo frame. This bike is going to be my club riding bike and faster solo ride bike and the set up is going to be more aggressive than my Sam Hillborne. I have some time to think about wheels/components and general setup which I am actually thankful for as I could use the time to get some money together. Brifters or barends?hmmm. Can't wait for it though, it is going to be cool and a good compliment to my Sam! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/04zqe5XjQWQJ . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell
It LOOKS pretty good. It can't hurt to try lowering the bars, which is an easy, cheap fix if it works. Also, it never hurts (well, maybe a little) to strengthen the core muscles with sit-ups, planks, cobras, etc. Riding a bike doesn't really do much for these important muscle groups, and it sounds like these are the muscles that are getting sore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eaklKSM2yU0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Roadeo finally ordered!
The gift cert buy was pretty cool idea. Either way you get a new bike! On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 7:50 AM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I did it! I ordered a Roadeo frameset. 53cm Ram Orange with cream accents, threaded fork (going to use my Nitto lugged stem). When the custom raffle was going on, I bought a gift certificate just so I could get entered into the raffle. I didn't win, of course, so I am using the gift certificate on the Roadeo frame. This bike is going to be my club riding bike and faster solo ride bike and the set up is going to be more aggressive than my Sam Hillborne. I have some time to think about wheels/components and general setup which I am actually thankful for as I could use the time to get some money together. Brifters or barends?hmmm. Can't wait for it though, it is going to be cool and a good compliment to my Sam! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/04zqe5XjQWQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Riv Visit
Drive up from Los Angeles and made my first trip up to the RivHQ this weekend. Great guys. They let me ride just about everything in the shop and complimented my 1984 Univega. Sorry Im horrible with names and can't remember everyone but Joe was awesome. They even gave me a hat and a few Riv readers. I knew I would dig the Hilsen but the speed and solidness of the Atlantis and the Hunga were surprising. Great bikes. Now I just have to sell all my other rides to buy one LOL. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oRdqlxRjSOsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell
It should be pointed out in all of this that the angle of the back isn't the only variable that will be affected by moving the seat forward. Seat position also determines how well your are balanced on the bicycle between your butt and your hands, and the reason that GP suggests starting with the saddle all the way back on the rails is because it gives you the greatest chance of starting out in a position where your butt is taking most of the weight and your hands/arms are largely unloaded. Now, if that position is well behind your balance point, i.e. the point at which you will start tipping forward and needing your arms to support your torso, then you can move the saddle forward slightly and not change overall balance. But if you are just at that balance point now, curing lower back pain through moving the saddle forward is a bad idea IMHO since it means you will just be shifting the stress to another part of your body--namely your hands and arms. Better to reduce back angle by reducing the reach. I'd agree with Jim T's suggestions on this one. Try lowering the bars first since it's the cheapest and easiest change to make, and sometimes our body is asking for more reach, not less. . Do it slowly and incrementally, measuring your position before and after so you can revert to the original if the new one doesn't work out. But if lowering the bars makes it worse, I'd also agree that shorter reach bars might be a good idea. Noodles are great bars but they're big in terms of reach and drop. Try something more compact like the Soma Hwy One. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:36:36 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the bars as high as one likes method. I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not on my hands. Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go again. I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons. It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SD_hQ920S8wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
You know, I have to say I am too. Looks like a great place to work; the employees seem to believe in the company and I believe that respect, for lack of a better word, comes out in the products and the service that I have always enjoyed when I buy from them. I can tell you this, I don't normally drive two hours with my friend to go to a book signing or talk my wife into vacationing in San Fran just so I can make a trip to Riv. On Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:54:03 AM UTC-6, Paul Y wrote: Incredible video. I feel so lucky Rivendell exists. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GNVZqgcGt7UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: TT AHH on S24O?
My favorite Riv sighting is a repeated miracle: My road route to work is 35 miles from El Cerrito to South Hayward. If things are going good, I do it once a week in the morning. Every single time I do it, there's a very tall, very blue Rambouillet coming the other way. I hope I'm not being unkind saying that I'd place the rider in his mid 60s. I always give him a hello ding on my bell. At this point he seems like he's part of the route. On Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:45:02 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: You guys on the left coast have all the fun. I see nary a Rivendell in my neck of the woods. Mostly Trek, Specialized, Giant, Colnago, Scattante, Cannondale, Fuji around here. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RZUsdAycmxQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell
Rather than shorter reach bars a shorter stem will so the same thingjust do some measurement comparisons. You can also just hold on the curve of the bar and if that feels better maybe a 1-2 cmm shorter stem for a similar position on the hoods. One thing you don't want to do is limit your options. I did this by using a 20mm shorter stem and realized that I actually needed a longer one with my bars being so high on my bike. My solution, I went back to a 90mm stem and lowered the bars. In the photo your back appears more than 50 degrees when on the hoods, if this is comfy for you don't change but I'll almost bet a lower bar height, maybe and inch lower, will make a big difference for your back. On Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:53:38 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote: It should be pointed out in all of this that the angle of the back isn't the only variable that will be affected by moving the seat forward. Seat position also determines how well your are balanced on the bicycle between your butt and your hands, and the reason that GP suggests starting with the saddle all the way back on the rails is because it gives you the greatest chance of starting out in a position where your butt is taking most of the weight and your hands/arms are largely unloaded. Now, if that position is well behind your balance point, i.e. the point at which you will start tipping forward and needing your arms to support your torso, then you can move the saddle forward slightly and not change overall balance. But if you are just at that balance point now, curing lower back pain through moving the saddle forward is a bad idea IMHO since it means you will just be shifting the stress to another part of your body--namely your hands and arms. Better to reduce back angle by reducing the reach. I'd agree with Jim T's suggestions on this one. Try lowering the bars first since it's the cheapest and easiest change to make, and sometimes our body is asking for more reach, not less. . Do it slowly and incrementally, measuring your position before and after so you can revert to the original if the new one doesn't work out. But if lowering the bars makes it worse, I'd also agree that shorter reach bars might be a good idea. Noodles are great bars but they're big in terms of reach and drop. Try something more compact like the Soma Hwy One. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:36:36 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the bars as high as one likes method. I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not on my hands. Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go again. I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons. It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6K-8h1TdkiUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] The test ride of my newly built almost finished A. Homer Hilsen.
Nicely written! Thanks, JimD On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Iron Rider 1000...@gmail.com wrote: For those who may be interested here's a link to a blogpost about by test ride of my A.H.H. http://eprider.blogspot.com/2013/01/test-ride.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YcIy0N7kec0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Roadeo vs. Hilsen performance differences?
What makes the Roadeo the racier frame (performance-wise)? The geometry? Lighter tubing? Does it transfer power to the wheels better than a Hilsen for some reason? I'm talking performance, not looks or lack of eyelets, etc. Thanks for any info. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/iw5o7UGcqIgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS 55cm Rivendell AHH $1500 + shipping (almost complete bike)
Still trying to sell my AHH. I've decided to try selling as a mostly complete bike (complete bike minus crank, pedals, saddle, seatpost and chain). I thought this might make it more affordable for those without a treasure trove of parts laying around and I think it is a pretty good spec. Frame is 55cm AHH takes 700c wheels Headset: Shimano Ultegra Handlebars: 44cm Nitto Soba Stem: 9cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Brake Levers: Shimano Tiagra Shifters: Dura Ace Downtube (9 speed indexed with friction option) Brakes: Tektro R556 Front Wheel: Mavic Open Pro with Ultegra hub (32h) Rear Wheel: Mavic Open Sport with Deore XT hub (36h) Tires: Your choice of 700 x 35 Schwalbe Marathon Racer, 700 x 38 Schwalbe Marathon Cross, 700 X 37 Panaracer Pasela (non tourguard), 700 x 28 Avocet Cross II, or 700 x 35 Resist Nomad. I have a ridiculous number of tires. Front Derailleur: IRD Alipna Rear Derailleur: Shimano Deore LX Long Cage - Rapid Rise (shifts backwards) Shimano square taper bottom bracket (unsure of length) Here is the geometry TT length is 55.5cm. SO height 80cm ST is 55cm (c-t) Head Angle 72 Seat Angle 72 Fork Rake 52 CS Length 45 BB Drop 8.0 Frame and fork are in good shape no dents etc. Paint is good except on the drive side chainstay where there was a nasty case of chain slap and the normal paint loss around dropouts etc. I kept the paint loss from the chain slap covered up with a leather chainstay protector (the brown in the photos next to the lost paint is goop from the chainstay protector). Parts are all in good shape. Photos here: -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/abelvitz/sets/72157627919352912/ $1,500 + shipping (I will pay for packing). Thanks. I would like to sell this so I can get a new bike build started. Dan Abelson St, Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: 700c Dynamo Wheelset/Light
I just tried to buy one on Fleabay and of course snipers got it at the last second. I was winning till 4 seconds left! Oh I hate Fleabay. Anyway, I'm talking to a local Seattle guy about his dynamo wheelset which is cool but I'd rather get a SON hub than the Shimano one if I can. Thought I'd see if anyone has a set out there before maybe picking his up. - Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Xz3jXFg-QgkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo vs. Hilsen performance differences?
I think mainly the tubing...Roadeo uses super lightweight and thinwall stuff, really not designed for carrying much more than the rider (and a fit one at that--there was some mention of a 200lb weight limit when it first came out) and a small day-ride load. Probably not the thing for bumpy off road riding either. Roadeo also has smaller clearances, using 57mm reach calipers as opposed to the big 55-75mm calipers used on the Hilsen. On Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:00:24 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: What makes the Roadeo the racier frame (performance-wise)? The geometry? Lighter tubing? Does it transfer power to the wheels better than a Hilsen for some reason? I'm talking performance, not looks or lack of eyelets, etc. Thanks for any info. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mS4xB2GGufEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Modifying Thin Gripster Pedals
Whoa I love it! What a useful set of photos of those four pedals! thanks, Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D_jc2o9AUoIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell
Based on this picture, I would suggest dropping your seat about a centimeter. Tight hamstrings can cause lower back pain when your leg extends too far. On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wa7I0J5tQkUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Today's Ride Photos
Taken from aboard an all-steel, friction-shifting road bike as I sat on a leather saddle wearing wool shorts, jersey, and leg/arm warmers. http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/8400532466/in/set-72157632569229289/lightbox/ --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo vs. Hilsen performance differences?
IIRC in the larger sizes( 57cm?) the Rodeo and Hilsen have the same tubing. I believe this was mentioned when I was at RBW. The difference is in the geo and braze ons. Cheers! Zz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CsWjNhD5JSYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Today's Ride Photos
Did you try the Venezuelan food at Pica Pica? Oh, how I sometimes miss it! René -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bullmoose brake lever question
I'm part way through the cockpit changeover, with the 200mm Bullmoose bars and brake levers in place, but no cables yet. I rode around the neighborhood today, nudging the bars up down, brakes in out (fixed gear, so easy to slow down). A few observations: The bars are really wide, wider than I need, too wide even for carrying the bike through doorways in the house. I will remove an even inch from the sides. The brakes are pretty good mounted with about an inch gap between clamp and bar struts - just enough room to comfortably rest the sides of my thumbs along the outsides of the struts while still able to brake with my outer fingers. And I can move my hands all along the bars, yet still have good variety of placement to brake with trigger and middle fingers. A couple layers of bar tape will be perfect. And the bars are very comfortable at even just an inch and a half raised in the steerer tube, which puts them about same amount higher than the nose of the saddle. The bars make an easy path across my palms, I think they're going to be great. Pictures when it's all wired up. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uydjWNI2wz4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo vs. Hilsen performance differences?
I'm not sure I understand the question in the Original Post. Michael wrote: What makes the Roadeo the racier frame (performance-wise)? The geometry? Lighter tubing? A. Do you mean that you already know for a fact that the Roadeo is a racier performing than a Hilsen, and you want to know what makes it the racier performing bike? Or B. Do you mean that you know there are differences in geometry and tubing and are asking WHETHER the Roadeo performs better, and if so how? Those are two very different questions. Which one did you mean? On Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:00:24 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: What makes the Roadeo the racier frame (performance-wise)? The geometry? Lighter tubing? Does it transfer power to the wheels better than a Hilsen for some reason? I'm talking performance, not looks or lack of eyelets, etc. Thanks for any info. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/88Z9ezqpa6UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Optimal tire pressure questions...
Rene I am 257 and have have wondered also about the charts but I've had good success running 38mm Schwalbe Supreme tires at 65 psi on the road and 41mm Marathons at around 55 psi. Much less and they are sluggish on pavement. I don't drop pressure for gravel or dirt but have probably ridden with ten pounds less when I don't check my tires before riding and that is when they feel sluggish. I usually look at the sidewall recommendation and buy a tire that has enough width for my weight without exceeding 90 psi. So 32mm is about the narrowest I can go. I've seen and used the charts and generally agree with them and I'll bet the flyweights among us can and do run super low pressures. Back in my youth (165 lbs) I remember running 23mm tires at 80 psi. I don't think I can put enough air in a 23mm tire now without it feeling like a rock and risking a blow out. On Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:23:18 PM UTC-8, René wrote: Since I'm a heavy guy, the spreadsheet that has been posted for all to determine the optimal tire pressure has been very usefull for me, particularly as all my bikes have different tire widths/sizes. However, last week I ran into a couple of issues with this chart that I'd like to see how everyone else has addressed: 1) Does tire size (650b, 700c, etc.) affect the optimal pressure for a give tire width? 2) If you are a very light person, for wider tires you get some ridiculous low number, like 7lbs. How do you determine the lowest pressure to use in these cases? 3) Can I extrapolate these values to tubeless MTB tires as well? Any extra feedback is welcome! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yczbWE6a2F0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo vs. Hilsen performance differences?
I have also heard that they are the same, at least in the larger sizes. In any case, if both were built with similar parts and fit, I think it'd be pretty hard to measure a performance difference for any given rider. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/r1qxoUwIXbgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Today's Ride Photos
Their food is great, but today I scarfed down a hot dog and onion rings at Gott's. Don't tell my wife! --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com On Jan 20, 2013, at 4:54 PM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Did you try the Venezuelan food at Pica Pica? Oh, how I sometimes miss it! René -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo vs. Hilsen performance differences?
I am a proud Roadeo owner. I had owned a Ram. And, I have test driven a Hilsen at Rivendell Bicycle Works. Mine is a 59cm. While my Roadeo is not a light bike, its fits right in my club rides. The handling is superb and very stable on fast downhills. It feels very similar to my Ram but is slightly more responsive and can handle wider tires. The Hilsen felt very familiar, but just a little less responsive. To me, the Hilsen is better suited to rides requiring fenders and some light carrying capacity (country bike?). On Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:00:24 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: What makes the Roadeo the racier frame (performance-wise)? The geometry? Lighter tubing? Does it transfer power to the wheels better than a Hilsen for some reason? I'm talking performance, not looks or lack of eyelets, etc. Thanks for any info. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eCeYXjmxLQkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Today's Ride Photos
I won't!
On Sunday, January 20, 2013, wrote:
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Gott's. Don't tell my wife!
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Did you try the Venezuelan food at Pica Pica? Oh, how I sometimes miss it!
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[RBW] Why do my rides end up like this?
We got lost. I blame Sean. His general saying was, Well if Grant can do it... All in good fun when no one gets hurt. Stopped at a garage sale afterwards and pick up some swag. Found a Seamen Captain. He needs a name. Any suggestions? Pictures prove that garage sales are always reason to stop. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDG4iAV -Manny Pretty we're lost Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GffXATGbWF8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1st Ride Report
Is Bombajealous a real word? 'Cause that bike is Bombatacular. On Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:45:54 PM UTC-8, tommynguyen wrote: Peter suggest I make a post, so here it is. Technically, it has been a few rides. A little side story of how the bike came to be: I rarely frequent the forums but decided on a fine December day to browse and see all the happenings on the web. I stumbled upon Peter's post of a Bombadil for sale and quickly emailed him. I was reluctant at first knowing that I really didn't need another bike but with the proper push (from Andy 'Smitty' Schmidt and ManuelAcosta) I took the dive... and was it a good one. Within a week, the frame, fork and additional goodies arrived (+1 for Peter M.). Gracious that Andy allowed a landing pad for the box since my neighborhood isn't too ideal for pricey items to be stationed. From then on, part list was compiled with the help of Manny and Andy (again) and slowly it came together. Finally, I have had some time to take it for a spin and boy does my face hurt from smiling. It's nothing like the bikes I have ridden before. The frame is responsive, accelerates well and comfortable. Not to mention, it's easy on the eyes. Here are some photos of the ride, before racks are put on. http://www.flickr.com/photos/metron04/sets/72157632564755576/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZbUDrTppCvoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on Velo Orange Polyvalent MKII
That's very interesting Tim. Got my eye on a size 55cm mountain/expedition and I have a PBH of 87. Could I make that work do you think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wwIxeobecVoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqaparallel
Hey Jim... Welcome to the parallel TT brotherhood! --Smitty On Friday, January 18, 2013 11:49:58 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote: This was a fun assembly, and I'm very lucky I happened to look at the Riv site right when this prototype Hunqapillar went for sale. I'm riding it daily, and I love it, especially with nicely indexing stem shifters. I can't wait to get some 700x55's on it, probably Big Bens. This is a fun bike. http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157632554382351/ -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/e5A6pTXo4IsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1st Ride Report
I'm Bombadelighted by all of the comments and views, thank you. On Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:32:21 PM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Is Bombajealous a real word? 'Cause that bike is Bombatacular. On Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:45:54 PM UTC-8, tommynguyen wrote: Peter suggest I make a post, so here it is. Technically, it has been a few rides. A little side story of how the bike came to be: I rarely frequent the forums but decided on a fine December day to browse and see all the happenings on the web. I stumbled upon Peter's post of a Bombadil for sale and quickly emailed him. I was reluctant at first knowing that I really didn't need another bike but with the proper push (from Andy 'Smitty' Schmidt and ManuelAcosta) I took the dive... and was it a good one. Within a week, the frame, fork and additional goodies arrived (+1 for Peter M.). Gracious that Andy allowed a landing pad for the box since my neighborhood isn't too ideal for pricey items to be stationed. From then on, part list was compiled with the help of Manny and Andy (again) and slowly it came together. Finally, I have had some time to take it for a spin and boy does my face hurt from smiling. It's nothing like the bikes I have ridden before. The frame is responsive, accelerates well and comfortable. Not to mention, it's easy on the eyes. Here are some photos of the ride, before racks are put on. http://www.flickr.com/photos/metron04/sets/72157632564755576/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2vNqoqLgQUgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 1st Ride Report
It's a beautiful bike getting ridden by a super nice guy. A win-win for sure. On Jan 20, 2013 11:48 PM, tommynguyen tommy...@gmail.com wrote: I'm Bombadelighted by all of the comments and views, thank you. On Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:32:21 PM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Is Bombajealous a real word? 'Cause that bike is Bombatacular. On Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:45:54 PM UTC-8, tommynguyen wrote: Peter suggest I make a post, so here it is. Technically, it has been a few rides. A little side story of how the bike came to be: I rarely frequent the forums but decided on a fine December day to browse and see all the happenings on the web. I stumbled upon Peter's post of a Bombadil for sale and quickly emailed him. I was reluctant at first knowing that I really didn't need another bike but with the proper push (from Andy 'Smitty' Schmidt and ManuelAcosta) I took the dive... and was it a good one. Within a week, the frame, fork and additional goodies arrived (+1 for Peter M.). Gracious that Andy allowed a landing pad for the box since my neighborhood isn't too ideal for pricey items to be stationed. From then on, part list was compiled with the help of Manny and Andy (again) and slowly it came together. Finally, I have had some time to take it for a spin and boy does my face hurt from smiling. It's nothing like the bikes I have ridden before. The frame is responsive, accelerates well and comfortable. Not to mention, it's easy on the eyes. Here are some photos of the ride, before racks are put on. http://www.flickr.com/photos/**metron04/sets/**72157632564755576/http://www.flickr.com/photos/metron04/sets/72157632564755576/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2vNqoqLgQUgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why do my rides end up like this?
I vote for Capt. Pedro. Great photos as always. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dyheODLXc4AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Why do my rides end up like this?
Oh Captain, Manny Captain!!!
On Sunday, January 20, 2013, Manuel Acosta wrote:
We got lost. I blame Sean. His general saying was, Well if Grant can do
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All in good fun when no one gets hurt.
Stopped at a garage sale afterwards and pick up some swag.
Found a Seamen Captain. He needs a name. Any suggestions?
Pictures prove that garage sales are always reason to stop.
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDG4iAV
-Manny Pretty we're lost Acosta
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[RBW] Re: Why do my rides end up like this?
An adventure traveler once said You can't be lost if you know what country you're in. In that context, I have been mis-placed by quite a bit. You all got home safe sound, and had enough energy left over to post. Sounds like a wonderful day. dougP On Sunday, January 20, 2013 7:56:48 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote: We got lost. I blame Sean. His general saying was, Well if Grant can do it... All in good fun when no one gets hurt. Stopped at a garage sale afterwards and pick up some swag. Found a Seamen Captain. He needs a name. Any suggestions? Pictures prove that garage sales are always reason to stop. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDG4iAV -Manny Pretty we're lost Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3MQEeK_5okIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
I will say that I appreciated Grant's mention of earbuds as a possible culprit, as well as highlighting the important fact that you hear trouble before you see it. As someone who's ridden over 10k city miles in the past 2 years and most of them with earbuds until recently, I was not long ago converted to never listening to music while riding. The slew of mechanical problems that you can snuff out early before too much danger as well as the spidey sense,or priopreception with other road users, is a super huge deal, I've come to realize. As someone who's been repeatedly guilty of reckless or potentially self-endangering riding while in the zone/in oblivion, the narrative described sounds very much like it involved that distraction. It's of course impossible for anyone but the rider in question to know what all happened, but I think it highlights that good riding requires restraint and full attention. And then I stop and ask myself... why are we talking about one bad apple amidst the droves of us whose lives have really been substantially changed for the better because of the skill, care and attention that define Rivendell? I have always been taken aback by the degree to which everyone there that I've dealt with has gone out of their way to make sure I'm happy. Grants response reminds of the Confucius quote that goes: It is more shameful to distrust a friend than to be deceived by one. On Jan 18, 12:52 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: From the evidence that Grant provided, you can't validly make that conclusion. Allow me to make a humble retraction. I can only validly lay 100% of the fault at the feet of the rider, not one scintilla more. 200% was unfair of me. Mea culpa. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:25:47 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: From the evidence that Grant provided, you can't validly make that conclusion. Me, I worked in sales, too -- insurance -- and dealt with idiot and knavish clients, so nothing would surprise me; and indeed, JRA would be very odd here. But the evidence as given does not allow of more than a suspicion, even if a good and well informed one. Logic: what *do* they teach them in these schools? On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:55 PM, William tape...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Some aspects of retail are really horrible, and I really do not miss from my past life. That broken Hunqa, 200% the rider's fault, and Riv is eating a frameset over it, and the customer is still disappointed. That steams me more than a little. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:54:42 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/ Extensive post with new video about RBW staff. Great stuff by Jay, as usual; it's nice to see his video work again. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-WUWaqvpMlsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqaparallel
Bah you double top tubers got it good. I would be adding so many weird dodads between the two tubes it would be amazing place to fill up. On Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:39:54 PM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Hey Jim... Welcome to the parallel TT brotherhood! --Smitty On Friday, January 18, 2013 11:49:58 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote: This was a fun assembly, and I'm very lucky I happened to look at the Riv site right when this prototype Hunqapillar went for sale. I'm riding it daily, and I love it, especially with nicely indexing stem shifters. I can't wait to get some 700x55's on it, probably Big Bens. This is a fun bike. http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157632554382351/ -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2alFgyfKJdIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why do my rides end up like this?
Manny, Careful with that bar tape, man. Don't wanna hear you face planted cuz it got caught in your spokes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EggvuQIqsMAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why do my rides end up like this?
How about: Cap'n Faceplant. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SmRnBM1t9_kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo vs. Hilsen performance differences?
William, The description on the site led me to believe it is the fastest bike they make, intended for fast club riding and not for touring/commuting/utility/country/ doingsomething riding like their other bikes are described. It even comes with the option for an aheadset type headset. It says it is their answer to speedy modern CF bikes. So, to me, this sounds like it is the fastest/only race-like model in current production. However, it doesn't say what makes it that way. There is no discussion of geometry or power transfer, etc. So I was wondering what about this steel bike that is so similar to the Hilsen (minus brazeons) makes it intended for fast riding only. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UZtITD2-vMwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why do my rides end up like this?
Agreed Mike. But until then at least I have reigns on my bike for now. Picture stolen from Sean http://flic.kr/p/dNfkit On Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:32:15 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: How about: Cap'n Faceplant. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/U_0Tt_xv0skJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: riv sighting.
I, too, spotted a Riv the other day. I was walking along Market Street in downtown SF and spotted a woman, about 65 years old, riding a burnt orange Rambouillet, complete with flower-printed panniers. She stopped at a light up ahead of me, so I ran to catch up, stepped into the crosswalk near her, and told her I loved her bike. She said, Me, too! It's one of my favorite things. Then the light changed and she rode off into the west. I was almost as inspired by her as I was by Jay's Rivideo. Terrific video! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YLCTcrAyiIwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
Wow..I didn't know John left. To me he's almost as much Rivendell as Grant is. I'm sorry to see him go, and wish him well. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:46:56 PM UTC-8, grant wrote: John got married and he and his wife (high school sweethearts reconnected!) moved to Oregon in early Nov to be near family. Losing John was gigantic, but I'm in contact with him daily and it's not all pleasure---he may work a few hours a week for us. Mark is the new GM, and we're all happy about that. It wasn't a case of -- having to promote from within. Mark knows the job, conferred with John about it...and has been doing great. Anyway, we ALL miss John so much, and he'd have been great in the video. His office would have stolen the show. Thank you all for liking it, and to whatever extent Rivendell Bicycle * works*, now you know why. Originally Jay and I talked about a ten-to-twelve minute videos, and that was the plan. And that was the budget, too. A few months later, after all the shooting (I think everything was one-take), Jay sent me a 29-minute vid (only the ultra-beginning, with me ridng down the trail, and then the typeover was added). Jay is a remarkable guy. He dives into things and seems to not know about learning curves the way the rest of us do. Jay was a great employee and friend. You can't know him without wanting to be more like him and feeling lucky. Super guy and he did a great job. On Saturday, January 19, 2013 5:16:23 PM UTC-8, Mike Gillespie wrote: Rivsters, Enjoyed the video. Looks like a great place to work. However, I noticed that John Bennett was left out. Just checked the Riv website, and sure enough, no John listed in the staff line-up. Mark is now GM. Seems like a recent change the went unnoticed, unless I misses something. Mike G. On 1/19/13, René Sterental orth...@gmail.com wrote: It really doesn't matter. As a customer, one of the things that earns my loyalty is feeling that the shop/vendor/company will go out if their way to do something for me. Rivendell has done it in the past and I expect will continue to do it in the future if necessary. That is why I have 4 Rivendell bicycles and keep buying from them things I could buy elsewhere. In turn, I try to avoid being unreasonable and taking advantage of them. I've been in the opposite side of the spectrum, where stuff I wanted was being sold by a vendor who I felt treated me poorly, and I've learned the hard way that it wasn't worth buying from them, especially when there are many other equivalent options out there. While as a customer, I do not expect that Rivendell will replace my frames whenever anything unfortunate happens to them, when I needed them to, for sizing issues, they volunteered to do it. For an individual, it might mean everything; for a shop, it will likely b the seed of more future business and referrals. While there are indeed people who will abuse this, on the long run the benefit for all will be much larger. For me, it sealed the deal. I don't support the LBS that is closest to me; I support the ones that give me the best service and go out of their way for me; they make me feel special and welcome. When they stop doing that due to management changes, policy changes or because the sales person or mechanic that did it goes elsewhere, I follow them to their new place of work unless they go out of town, even if I have to drive further. And going back to the video, while everyone I've ever interacted with at Rivendell has always been wonderful, I do agree that Keven is special. Very special. I wasn't surprised when Grant stated it in the video. René -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/I8d03P153JQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
