[RBW] FS: 650b front wheel and tires, plus Berthoud bag with decaleur

2013-05-11 Thread Daniel M
Hi all, I bought a 650b randonneur from a very nice seller who had ridden it perhaps three times in the two years he had owned it. I ended up swapping out the front wheel for one with a dynohub, the tires for 42mm Hetres, and the rando bag for something a bit taller. As a result, those

Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?

2013-05-11 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
It takes more than just a fork to transform a Riv into a randonneur, indeed. Most importantly, it takes some kooky person to sit in the saddle and turn the cranks and follow the cue sheet faithfully for between 7 and 90 hours. Anybody who's obsessing over fork rake or any other hardware

[RBW] How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?

2013-05-11 Thread bobish
Not a riv but close enough? I just converted a garage sale find trek 520 to a-bars (all my bikes have a-bars!). It's pretty damned upright. https://www.dropbox.com/s/x47bt8g8hntks2l/Photo%20May%2009%2C%2011%2023%2017%20AM.jpg Bolt upright? Well, yeah. I tried it with the original stem and the

Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?

2013-05-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 22:31 -0500, Alex Zeibot wrote: Low trail fork will not transform Rivendell into a complete randonneur bicycle. It takes more than just a fork. Plenty of Rivendells have been transformed into randonneur bicycles without any changes to the fork at all. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-11 Thread Eric Daume
My experience doesn't reflect this. I recently picked up a low trail Rawland Nordavinvden, and it handles very well with no load and high, wide bars (above saddle by maybe 1.5) I actually haven't even ridden it with any front load yet. Though I also like my higher trail, stiffer tubed Crosscheck

[RBW] Re: Some details on the midwest Riv and Country Bike Rally

2013-05-11 Thread Marc Irwin
If I get the gist of the itinerary, we are going to camp and stay at Forestville, ride out each day, end up making a loop and return to the campground. So riding loaded with camping gear from place to place is not on the agenda if we are camping there, correct. Marc On Friday, May 10, 2013

[RBW] Re: Some details on the midwest Riv and Country Bike Rally

2013-05-11 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
That's right Marc. For those of us camping at Forestville, we can leave our gear there during the day. I'm basing the official start each day in Spring Valley and Preston, respectively, because those towns have services like lodging, groceries, etc. This gives us some bonus miles commuting to

[RBW] Re: Some details on the midwest Riv and Country Bike Rally

2013-05-11 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Also, starting in the towns allows one-day ralliers to drive in, park somewhere, and meet us conveniently. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-11 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Comments on two prior posts. Yes Rene, I've enjoyed it also. I drooled over Rivendells when I first saw a Romulus ad. The first production bike that would fit me off the rack though was a smaller Rambouillet, so I got one at the end of 2006. 10,000 miles later, I still love it. Later, I started

[RBW] Some thought on my Riv's - Long

2013-05-11 Thread Kelly
All this discussion about trail and this and that and I realized I didn't care. At 6'5 tall and 225 what many want to claim as heavy tubing isn't heavy to me. In my race bike days I liked areo wheels that were very stiff and felt like you were on a rail and instantly put power to the road.

Re: [RBW] Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times

2013-05-11 Thread Doug Williams
I also found the review frustratingly vague. As you said, he talks about geometry, but doesn’t specify what he means. To be fair, most bike reviews are like this one: a gloss over without offering any specifics. He also says, “The San Marcos gets you where you want to go in comfort and

[RBW] Re: old pasela 37's on the Simpleone and picking up new wheels for the Protovelo

2013-05-11 Thread jandrews_nyc
Hey there The Bleriot looks great. I miss that bike..but it was too small. I'm so glad you like it. Looks like it's treating you well. I love awkward bike portage also (as long as it's safe) Best Jason On Monday, May 6, 2013 11:22:29 PM UTC-4, jeffrey kane wrote: Beautiful, man ... I

Re: [RBW] Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times

2013-05-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 07:45 -0700, Doug Williams wrote: I also found the review frustratingly vague. As you said, he talks about geometry, but doesn’t specify what he means. To be fair, most bike reviews are like this one: a gloss over without offering any specifics. He also says, “The San

[RBW] protovelo done

2013-05-11 Thread jandrews_nyc
The new protovelo build is mostly finished. As I mentioned before, I've never had a proper roadie type bike and I had been collecting parts to build one when this frame came up on the Riv site as a web special. I have no idea what it was a prototype for. I've never ridden with integrated

Re: [RBW] Some thought on my Riv's - Long

2013-05-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Kelly -- very interesting writeup (of course I was particularly interested in that for the Ram). I've not ridden any of Grants later models, but you descriptions of their handling and feel match my own experience with the five Rivs I've owned (with some reservations about the Sam Hill). Great

[RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-11 Thread LeahFoy
Hi, All! I'm Leah, and I'm happy to have discovered you! In November I managed to get my paws on my very own Rivendell Betty Foy. She's the completely perfect answer to my cycling needs. I slapped a gorgeous Brooks B68 in honey on her and it's been great. But yesterday I made the mistake of

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

2013-05-11 Thread Chris Lampe 2
Me too! Thanks for the clarification, Steve! On Friday, May 10, 2013 5:28:09 PM UTC-5, Evan wrote: Thanks, everyone, for your answers regarding trail. (Pneumatic trail vs. geometric trail? Whoa. It's even more complicated than I thought!) -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

2013-05-11 Thread Pierre
All, I have an outstanding hitch bike rack (Thule Euroway G2 923), but this option is now gone with our new car. I am looking to buy a roof bike rack that would accommodate nicely a fendered fat-tired bicycle with front rack (Mark's or Mini type), any advice? I've owned in the past a Yakima

[RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times

2013-05-11 Thread LBleriot
On Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:33:15 PM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote: I'm leaning strongly toward a San Marcos, but I can't seem to let go of the idea of having a faster Roadeo. I like to do long solo rides. I ride with others on occasion, but I don’t worry about racing or drafting anybody. I

Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Only On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:43 PM, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome! The initiation for new listmembers requires posting exquisite photos of their Rivendells. Please do so. what is your opinion about swapping for the red? Will it look too matchy? Would you tire of seeing a

Re: [RBW] Re: BQ and RIV bike diffs

2013-05-11 Thread Lee Legrand
How about a French style geometry bicycle with a Hobo planaria? Low racks with low trail fork, Newbaum handle wrapped with twin at the end, and shellac in placed. Plastic fenders, dyno wheel for lights in the front and back. Basket up front to hold your things. You could probably play the

[RBW] Re: BQ and RIV bike diffs

2013-05-11 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
I'm pretty sure that Grant's and Jan's writings in this thread should be monogrammed and framed, just so it can be easily referenced when future postings try to drive a spike between their ideas. I'm pretty firmly in the camp of The Ride Is What Matters, and if you are comfortable and feel

Re: [RBW] Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times

2013-05-11 Thread dan gee
The stiffness of the frame also makes a bike feel fast/reactive versus slow/inert, to me, anyway. In my brief ride on a Roadeo, it felt responsive and springy like a skinny tire road bike. But then again, it's pretty obvious that a lot of perceptions of fastness have a lot more to with looks

Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-11 Thread Brian Hanson
I vote red! Saddle matching is the new bag matching. I have a blue B17 on one bike, and like the matchy aspect. Brian Seattle, WA On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 8:05 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Only On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:43 PM, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-11 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Red saddles look great on many bikes. Go for it! When I built up a repainted bike a while back, a friend donated some Brooks green bar tape. Naturally, I had to get a green B17 to match On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 3:43 PM, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, All! I'm Leah, and I'm

[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-11 Thread David Spranger
The Betty Foy owner in the household votes to leave the honey saddle. I vote red as I have done the color matching thing with a blue brooks saddle that perfectly matches the brake cables and headset spacers on my SimpleOne. David Charlotte, NC On Friday, May 10, 2013 4:43:09 PM UTC-4, LeahFoy

[RBW] Re: protovelo done

2013-05-11 Thread ted
Sloping top tube. Slots on the brakes look like med reach. Could be San Marcos ish. On Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:59:36 AM UTC-7, jandrews_nyc wrote: The new protovelo build is mostly finished. As I mentioned before, I've never had a proper roadie type bike and I had been collecting parts to

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-11 Thread René Sterental
Go red! Objective advice from someone who matches green Brooks saddle and bar tape to his green bags on his pewter Hunqapillar! René  — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:56 AM, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com wrote: The Betty Foy owner in the household votes to

[RBW] Re: protovelo done

2013-05-11 Thread Stephen S
Looks like a Bleirot fork with a Hillborne frame. Brake reach is solidly in the 57-59mm reach range. It looks like a fun sporty ride! Have fun! Stephen On Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:16:16 AM UTC-7, ted wrote: Sloping top tube. Slots on the brakes look like med reach. Could be San Marcos ish.

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-11 Thread Lyle Bogart
Welcome, Leah! Ooooh, go red! And I'm not a matchy person (as my socks will attest!) but I think a red brooks on a Betty would look great. . . plus your dad needs a different saddle, right? :-) Cheers! lyle On 11 May 2013 12:33, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Go red! Objective

Re: [RBW] Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

2013-05-11 Thread John Blish
The Soma badge is merely a cloaking device. Those with the means and ability can see through it and know it is a Riv design. Those who lack the means or ability to see that don't know the difference between a Riv and a Soma design anyway. You will be able to tell in which category to place

Re: [RBW] Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

2013-05-11 Thread jimD
 +1  On May 11, 2013, at 10:23 AM, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: The Soma badge is merely a cloaking device. Those with the means and ability can see through it and know it is a Riv design. Those who lack the means or ability to see that don't know the difference between

Re: [RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

2013-05-11 Thread René Sterental
Hi Pierre, The only roof racks that work well with fendered bikes are those that grab the frame via the downtube. Of the few available, the one I like the most is the Thule Criterium: http://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/bike-carriers/roofcarriers/598-criterium-_-598 The other one is the

[RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-11 Thread Philip Williamson
Welcome! And red saddle for sure. I still enjoy seeing the green saddle on my green Quickbeam after 9 years. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-11 Thread bwphoto
Go red and while you're at it get some cool red foot ware along with red bottle cages and blue bottles...why stop with the saddle? Then of course lots of pictures. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] 1987 Bridgestone MB-1, 50cm, for sale

2013-05-11 Thread brian t
Greetings Riv folk. Now that I am the proud owner of a new RBW Legolas, I'm letting go of my Bridgestone MB-1. It's one of the coolest MB-1s ever, in my opinion, being one of the few production mountain bikes made for, and spec'ed with, Dirt Drop handlebars. The size is 50cm, good for someone 5'8

[RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-11 Thread Deacon Patrick
Welcome! Are you aware of how differently the B17 rides than the B68? The B17 can be too narrow for a more upright position, which I presume you have on the Betty? An upright position has us sitting on the wider part of our sit bones, so saddle width makes a big difference. Aside from that, I

[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-11 Thread djbardwil
I went through the same debate with a Brooks B17 Electric Blue saddle for my Atlantis - it matched the lettering outline perfectly. I added some chainstay wrap in blue to touch it off and am very happy with the results. If you like it, go for it! There is no wrong answer in personlizing.

[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-11 Thread Jimmy Hutch
Rock the red! The fact that you asked makes the answer self evident. -Jimmy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-11 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Not to mention that the B-17 comes in a lady's model as well On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Welcome! Are you aware of how differently the B17 rides than the B68? The B17 can be too narrow for a more upright position, which I presume you have on the

[RBW] Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions

2013-05-11 Thread Deacon Patrick
Once the Large SaddleSacks are back in stock I plan on getting one as my everyday bag on the bike. It will rest on a Nitto Large Rear Rack. I plan on strapping it down with 1-2 short Irish Straps. For camping, I will put the Sackville Panniers under it and am hoping the lashing points match up

[RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions

2013-05-11 Thread WETH
Patrick, I carry all sorts of loads from a medium backpack full of clothes and a laptop computer, to six-packs of 12-oz bottled beverages, to box of Dunkin Coffee, to camping gear. (not all at one time:) ) I could easily exceed weight limit of wheel and rack before capacity of the bag. I love

[RBW] Re: Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

2013-05-11 Thread Michael Hechmer
Why are you so committed to a roof rack? I use a Saris hitch rack and like it much better than any roof rack I have owned - which is a lot. Michael On Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:19:28 AM UTC-4, Pierre wrote: All, I have an outstanding hitch bike rack (Thule Euroway G2 923), but this option

[RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions

2013-05-11 Thread WETH
Here is a photo of the beverages: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZaeY65IqQtM/UY7ZZjzdMKI/ANs/SpNq8WJEs_I/s1600/saddlesack2.JPG Best regards, Erl On Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:25:39 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Once the Large SaddleSacks are back in stock I plan on getting one as

Re: [RBW] Re: BQ and RIV bike diffs

2013-05-11 Thread cyclotourist
I don't know if Rob would agree, but that sounds like an Ocean Air Rambler to me! http://oceanaircycles.com/bicycles/rambler/ Cheers, David On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Lee Legrand krm2...@gmail.com wrote: How about a French style geometry bicycle with a Hobo planaria? Low racks

Re: [RBW] Re: BQ and RIV bike diffs

2013-05-11 Thread Mike Schiller
and don't forget the bandana's on Rob's site. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?

2013-05-11 Thread PeterG
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[RBW] Re: Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

2013-05-11 Thread Leslie
Sounds like, the new car doesn't have a hitch... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

2013-05-11 Thread Kelly
Check this one out.. Just what your looking for http://www.atoc.com/biketopper.php Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?

2013-05-11 Thread Michael
Alba's look cool with the black grips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Just how dark do Brooks honey saddles get?

2013-05-11 Thread Michael
I like the honey, but torn between honey and dark brown. The Brown looks kinds reddish in pics i have seen. The honey looks great, but would love it to darken up a bit. Anyone got any pics of one or 'tother to share? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] WTT: My B17 for your Imperial.

2013-05-11 Thread Michael
Looking to try an Imperial - black or browns, honey, etc. I have a black B17 that has probably less than 200 miles on it. In very good shape. I can send pics if interested. Let me know. john11.2...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

2013-05-11 Thread Aaron Young
If indeed the problem is no hitch in the new car, then I would suggest considering getting a hitch installed or doing it yourself. I put a hitch on my minivan and it was really pretty easy. I got the hitch from Amazon and found an install video on YouTube. Cost was about $150. I'm not sure what

Re: [RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

2013-05-11 Thread cyclotourist
What Aaron said. These people are HIGHLY recommended. All their installations are viewable on youtube and it's really straightforward. That's presuming your vehicle isn't an outlier that doesn't have the capacity, or a work vehicle or similar. Re roof racks: If you have the choice between clamp

Re: [RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

2013-05-11 Thread cyclotourist
These people, of course being http://www.etrailer.com/ Cheers, David On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:18 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: What Aaron said. These people are HIGHLY recommended. All their installations are viewable on youtube and it's really straightforward. That's

[RBW] Re: Just how dark do Brooks honey saddles get?

2013-05-11 Thread Mike
Here's some pictures of my 6yr old Honey B17. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/8142953377/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/8577884068/in/set-72157633053478798 I really like the way this saddle looks. Still, if I were going to buy a new Brooks, I'd probably get

[RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions

2013-05-11 Thread Mike
Patrick, once you get your large SS be sure to post pictures and impressions. I'm curious as to how the bikes perform with those bags out in the wild. On the one hand it puts a lot of weight up high but perhaps this isn't an issue. The bags are beautiful for sure and easy to access. I totally

Re: [RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions

2013-05-11 Thread Anne Paulson
My Large Saddlesack is permanently on my bike. I was using zipties to attach bag to rack, but some people say that the zipties damage the bag, so currently it's only attached to the saddle, and it rests on the rack. I need to figure out some new attachment solution. I don't understand why one

Re: [RBW] WTT: My B17 for your Imperial.

2013-05-11 Thread Brian Hanson
Michael - just make your own out of the B17: http://wp.me/p1kJzU-5S Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Looking to try an Imperial - black or browns, honey, etc. I have a black B17 that has probably less than 200 miles on it. In

Re: [RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions

2013-05-11 Thread Brian Hanson
I'll second the zip-tie advice. I have the medium and just use 2 zip-ties to steady it on the rear of the bag at the rack. Brian Seattle, WA On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: My Large Saddlesack is permanently on my bike. I was using zipties to