Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 22:24 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: Its too narrow for my fat ass. If they make a wide one in a year or two I will give it a look. Should come in somewhat cheaper than the standard offerings considering its made of rubber and cotton. Yes, exactly like this. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Wouldn't it be nice to discuss this saddle on the basis of its merits rather than all this /politics/? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New Riv Prototype
Bars are working out really well—just ordered a bosco/tallux 13mm/stem shifter mounts for the Saluki. Thanks for asking Micheal! Neck is getting worked on and making progress. Far better than the harness hobby horse! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New Riv Prototype
I like it, looks like a lot of fun. Probably would ever buy one, but it would be loads of fun to try. Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH FTM-PTB On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2339507/The-hobby-horse-style-bike-pedals-saddle--holds-riders-harness.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Actually not politics at all. The nternet combined with inexpensive global shipping is changing the world of commerce. Companies that know how to take advantage of both make money products targetting global niche markets. Vegan products make up a growing, multi-million market. Brooks is joining many large and small companies that realize this and are making products for it. One would think fans of a lugged steel cycle company that has kepts true its niche through clever marketing and the internet would appreciate that other companies are finding other niches the same way. I guess different strokes only applies where we agree with what the differences are. And yes, I certainly hope this is the start of something that finds a level of quality and cost effectiveness such that the product sells to all, not just for the niche. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Made in the UK AFAIK. On Monday, June 17, 2013 9:16:48 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: I worked in a Vegan restaurant for a long time (a lot of fixed gear bikes) and the owner made it a point not to make the non-vegans feel like they were baby killing satan worshippers. I would imagine the smart people at Brooks would do the same and not market this as a this saddle will make you sleep better at night kind of thing. I see nowhere on the site where Brooks is advertising this as a Vegan saddle. Is some part of the Cambium made in china? Did some child worker slave to make it? Maybe that should be more important. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Yes, you've gone out of your way to impress upon me your vegan ways, and the error of mine. I'm not interested in the politics of leather Brooks saddles, but thanks for playing. On Monday, June 17, 2013 6:27:33 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: There are a growing number of prosperous vegans in the UK, US, EU, and of course India, who like nice things without dead animals in them. The majority is not yet enlightened, but we are growing and we are very willing to spend our money on products that don't need to kill an animal to make. And yes, many currently available race saddles are synthetic. They are also for the most part gawsh forsaken torture devices. On Monday, June 17, 2013 8:08:57 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: Hmm, good point. Although calling 1000 non-leather Brooks saddles limited is pushing the concept, in my opinion. I'm not at all convinced there's much of a market for one. Joe I've been wrong before Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Monday, June 17, 2013 5:56:28 PM UTC-7, Statrixbob wrote: Actually my reading of the letter is that their first production run is going to be a limited edition at 145 quid. These will all be numbered. I would suspect that sales after the limited edition will be less expensive. Now, on Monday 17th June, a specially dedicated website for the new Cambium Saddles goes live and an initial limited edition is available for sale with each saddle's number etched into its nose rivet. We are offering a total of 1,200 pieces: -1,000 C17 Gents Saddles -200 C17s Ladies Saddles http://www.brooksengland.com/**catalogue-and-shop/saddles/** touring+%26+trekking/Cambium+**C17+Ltd+Edition/http://www.brooksengland.com/catalogue-and-shop/saddles/touring+%26+trekking/Cambium+C17+Ltd+Edition/ In the surveys I've filled out as one of the first 200 (it went up) I've kept saying I'd pay under $125 (or was it $135) which was the lowest option. Not that they'll listen to me. :-) Aloha, Bob On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.comwrote: Hmm. I assumed this would be an attempt to make a Brooks saddle more accessible to the masses, both in construction and price. I don't think the market is hollering for a Brooks just as pricey as the leather ones, but without the leather. An odd decision, in my opinion. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Monday, June 17, 2013 9:16:04 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: New Brooks mail today - 145 quid for this saddle. that's the same price as a Select Grade B17, etc. Looks like the wrong end of the market to me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfhar...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the highest rise quill stem made?
There is a longer quill version of the dirt drop too. http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=188_263_1332_720products_id=12315zenid=c55107306d68d3b56de8b7b97ad89d70 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:37 AM, clayton treefir...@yahoo.com wrote: I use a 10 cm Nitto dirt drop. I have a bad back (3 surgeries) and bad carpal tunnel syndrome too (3 surgeries). My Atlantis is on the small side of Riv's suggested sizing. I find the dirt drop high enough that I don't need to run the stem all the way up. Clayton On Saturday, June 15, 2013 4:50:11 PM UTC-7, samh wrote: In other words, what stem can get your handle bar grips the furthest from earth? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the highest rise quill stem made?
doesn't look like it comes in anything other than 25.4mm clamp though. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:39 AM, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.comwrote: There is a longer quill version of the dirt drop too. http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=188_263_1332_720products_id=12315zenid=c55107306d68d3b56de8b7b97ad89d70 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:37 AM, clayton treefir...@yahoo.com wrote: I use a 10 cm Nitto dirt drop. I have a bad back (3 surgeries) and bad carpal tunnel syndrome too (3 surgeries). My Atlantis is on the small side of Riv's suggested sizing. I find the dirt drop high enough that I don't need to run the stem all the way up. Clayton On Saturday, June 15, 2013 4:50:11 PM UTC-7, samh wrote: In other words, what stem can get your handle bar grips the furthest from earth? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet
If I didn't have my 58cm Ram now, I jump on this one! Whoever gets it will be happy! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 06:34 -0700, Matthew J wrote: Actually not politics at all. I disagree. When I read about veganism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism it's all politics. Using the word is invoking politics. Why Vegan for this saddle, and not any of the many, many plastic saddles on the market? Would the old Brooks mattress saddle that used to come on most of the cheap 3-speeds be Vegan as well? The nternet combined with inexpensive global shipping is changing the world of commerce. Companies that know how to take advantage of both make money products targetting global niche markets. Vegan products make up a growing, multi-million market. Brooks is joining many large and small companies that realize this and are making products for it. If there is one thing there is no shortage of in this world, it's plastic bicycle saddles. That's no niche market, it is the mainstream. One would think fans of a lugged steel cycle company that has kepts true its niche through clever marketing and the internet would appreciate that other companies are finding other niches the same way. I guess different strokes only applies where we agree with what the differences are. And yes, I certainly hope this is the start of something that finds a level of quality and cost effectiveness such that the product sells to all, not just for the niche. Every saddle on every bike in every LBS is vegan. I'd call that not just for the niche, wouldn't you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Cracked Ramboullet
Sorry to hear of your problem, but at least it can be repaired. Sounds like RBW is willing to help even if they don't have a 'no questions asked' replacement policy. I have one of the original orange Rams. I got it used four years and have put 3000 miles on it with no problems. Hope yours is back on the road soon! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Mt Hood NF S36O.
This was a great trip but far too short in spite of two big mileage days in the woods on fantastic back roads old and new. I love the Mt Hood NF, so many opportunities for bike camping. While I've been out there a number of times I still feel I've only scratched the surface. While cloudy, it never rained. I was never cold (or too hot) and the bugs weren't out of control at the campsite. Would have loved to have stayed out for another day. I'll offer up a bit more of a trip report later today. For now enjoy these photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157634197077834/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Complete Rivendell Cockpit almost new, an Other Rivendell Components
Update, Monday June 17 5:45 pm PDT: Cockpit sold, other items sold, Here's what remains for sale: Front and Rear Rich Lesnik Synergy wheels, Phil Wood Hubs, Jack Brown tires 700 x 36 mm wheels Front and Rear SKS fenders, stays, and Sackville Mud Flaps Paid well over $700, sell both sets wheels and fenders - and they're almost brand new in every way- for $350, plus shipping. On Saturday, June 15, 2013 11:14:38 AM UTC-7, Checkerboard wrote: I'm starting this as a new post, updating the pictures. I wish I knew how to display them as thumbnails rather than empty boxes! First, ... Tim Buys the saddle and the derailleurs. I have the cockpit with noodle bars, Nitto stem, Shimano Tiagra brake levers, interrupter levers, Honey leather Brooks wrap, and the bar end shifters to sell as an assembled group. with the brake cables attached. All these items totalled $406, not including labor to interconnect cables, and wrap the bars, whipping with string the inside ends - that extra Rivendell touch; I will sell them for 55% off or $*223*, plus shipping. I posted to this message some new photos of the cockpit assembly. Nitto noodle bars and Nitto Stem retail for $146, bar tape was $100, silver shifters cost 78, plus cables... Levers, plus cabling already routed... you get the idea. $223 plus shipping for the near-new setup. This will have to go UPS as the bars won't fit in a Priority Mail flat rate box. I still have the wheels, pedals, front and rear brakes, crankset, chain, and bottom bracket etc. I am behind on my emails so if not too much trouble, kindly email me with your interests again. Needless to say, there were no takers for the the whole kit of components. Hence, a modified piecemeal approach, calling it Plan C.' Thanks, Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet
Located in Pasadena, CA. On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, Stmike wrote: Selling my as new Rivendell Rambouillet 58 cm bicycle. It has less than 250 miles on it and is in perfect condition. It is the beautiful forest green color with white accents. It is built with the following componentry: Brooks saddle B.17 Steel/Honey Ultegra STI Ultegra rear derailer Ultegra 9 speed cassette Nitto seat post, handlebars, bottle cage and I'll throw in a Nigel Smythe tweed handlebar bag (pictured). Let me know if you'd like specific photos. $1500. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rDsWC6aF-FY/Ub-GZiEP_2I/AAo/m6cf6zIJp4M/s1600/DSCF0088.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet
Me, and the bike, are located in Pasadena, CA - near Los Angeles. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 700c Wheelset: Phil Wood / Campagnolo Omega 19 / Wheelsmith DB
*Sold * On Monday, June 17, 2013 1:37:26 PM UTC-4, ColonelJLloyd wrote: Super strong and very lightweight wheelset. The anodizing is mostly worn off of the brake tracks, but the rims have loads of life left. Wheels are true and round with proper tension. The hubs are super smooth with no play. These are excellent wheels. No skewers. - 36h Phil Wood 1st Gen hubs (120/100 spacing) - Standard English threading (1.37 x 24 tpi) - 700c Campagnolo Omega 19 hard anodized rims - Wheelsmith double butted stainless steel spokes - Chromed brass nipples - Velox rim tape *$235 shipped*. If west of the Mississippi, please add $10 for extra postage. These will be packed in a supremely safe, proper wheel box and sent via FedEx. Pics here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/51002114@N03/sets/72157634176056025/ http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7418/9050017633_8817c1bb5b_c.jpg http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2883/9050016679_671a5247c9_c.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Gilles Berthoud GB999 Small Rack Top Bag (Black) $80 shipped
*SOLD* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTT: Silver brakes (recessed allen version) for your bolt-on version or equivalent long-reach sidepulls
Looking to trade a bike's worth of lightly used Silver sidepull brakes for a set of bolt-on Silver or Tektro R559 long-reach sidepulls. Ideally, a trade would happen in person in the SF Bay Area, but happy to do an exchange through the mail as well. Please contact me off-list if you would like to trade. Thanks, Eric egordon2231(at)gmail(dot)com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Post Your Hunqapillar Pics Here
How about the Hunq prototype? I borrowed this beauty for the day to go explore Shell Ridge and Diablo. REALLY fun bike...I had a horrible head cold that day but had one of the best rides Ive ever taken. http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4128/4994817314_cec492130d_b.jpg http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4148/4994213091_60935b6afc_b.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Wool Clothing
No worries. The striped wool shirt is sold already! Still available: Ibex woman's jacket Ibex flannel shirt Patagonia Merino sweater LL Bean norwegian sweater On Monday, June 17, 2013 5:16:12 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, reply to list, sorry... Cheers, David On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:15 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Zack, I'd like the striped if it's an XL or a loose fitting L. Thin wool? Cheers, David On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Zack zac...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: $5 off everything. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Apparently you have not been following the earlier discussions on the Cambium. Yes, mainstream saddles are frequently plastic. I and others interested in leather free alternatives to quality Brooks and Berthoud saddles have said and this and other bicycle forums that the plastic saddles all tend to be both be horribly uncomfortable and have a short life span. The Brooks Cambium - which is not plastic, by the way - gives hope there may be an alternative. I know many cyclists who avoid animal products (politically neutral enough for you?) that are looking forward to finally having a quality, leather free saddle that can provide lasting comfortable rides. Maybe the Cambium will not be that product. Maybe it will. I expect that Brooks hopes that it is. Global response to the Cambium appears to be quite good. Certainly getting a lot of press on line. A niche has in fact been touched. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
*There are a growing number of prosperous vegans in the UK, US, EU, and of course India, who like nice things without dead animals in them. The majority is not yet enlightened, but we are growing and we are very willing to spend our money on products that don't need to kill an animal to make.* This was your response to me, which was the second time in this thread you had played this card. It is quite political, and saying it's not political is disingenuous. We are discussing the comfort/looks/price/marketability of the Brooks Cambium. The politics is not necessary. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:07:23 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: Apparently you have not been following the earlier discussions on the Cambium. Yes, mainstream saddles are frequently plastic. I and others interested in leather free alternatives to quality Brooks and Berthoud saddles have said and this and other bicycle forums that the plastic saddles all tend to be both be horribly uncomfortable and have a short life span. The Brooks Cambium - which is not plastic, by the way - gives hope there may be an alternative. I know many cyclists who avoid animal products (politically neutral enough for you?) that are looking forward to finally having a quality, leather free saddle that can provide lasting comfortable rides. Maybe the Cambium will not be that product. Maybe it will. I expect that Brooks hopes that it is. Global response to the Cambium appears to be quite good. Certainly getting a lot of press on line. A niche has in fact been touched. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Mt Hood NF S36O.
Here's maps of the routes: Day 1:goo.gl/maps/sDsTR Day 2: goo.gl/maps/hvsXn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Arguing comfort or lack thereof of something one has never used is not disingenuous? Your argument is the lack of leather should lower the market value of the product. My response is to show there is in fact a significant market that values the lack of leather. Zappos, to name one large company, allows people to search its site for Vegan shoes. There are vegan restaurants throughout the world. Vegan is a mainstream commercially acceptable market. Vegan may have been political 10 years ago. In 2013 it is not. Matthew J Chicago, IL On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:35, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: There are a growing number of prosperous vegans in the UK, US, EU, and of course India, who like nice things without dead animals in them. The majority is not yet enlightened, but we are growing and we are very willing to spend our money on products that don't need to kill an animal to make. This was your response to me, which was the second time in this thread you had played this card. It is quite political, and saying it's not political is disingenuous. We are discussing the comfort/looks/price/marketability of the Brooks Cambium. The politics is not necessary. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:07:23 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: Apparently you have not been following the earlier discussions on the Cambium. Yes, mainstream saddles are frequently plastic. I and others interested in leather free alternatives to quality Brooks and Berthoud saddles have said and this and other bicycle forums that the plastic saddles all tend to be both be horribly uncomfortable and have a short life span. The Brooks Cambium - which is not plastic, by the way - gives hope there may be an alternative. I know many cyclists who avoid animal products (politically neutral enough for you?) that are looking forward to finally having a quality, leather free saddle that can provide lasting comfortable rides. Maybe the Cambium will not be that product. Maybe it will. I expect that Brooks hopes that it is. Global response to the Cambium appears to be quite good. Certainly getting a lot of press on line. A niche has in fact been touched. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Because it's fun to watch the histrionics: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bavsss.htm Cheers, David On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: The thread was started by a person actually using the saddle, which is where discussions of comfort come in. You are injecting politics into it, then pretending you're not. I'm quite well versed in the tactics of political debate on the internet, and know the semantics game. I'm done with this. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:56:21 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: Arguing comfort or lack thereof of something one has never used is not disingenuous? Your argument is the lack of leather should lower the market value of the product. My response is to show there is in fact a significant market that values the lack of leather. Zappos, to name one large company, allows people to search its site for Vegan shoes. There are vegan restaurants throughout the world. Vegan is a mainstream commercially acceptable market. Vegan may have been political 10 years ago. In 2013 it is not. Matthew J Chicago, IL On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:35, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com wrote: *There are a growing number of prosperous vegans in the UK, US, EU, and of course India, who like nice things without dead animals in them. The majority is not yet enlightened, but we are growing and we are very willing to spend our money on products that don't need to kill an animal to make. * This was your response to me, which was the second time in this thread you had played this card. It is quite political, and saying it's not political is disingenuous. We are discussing the comfort/looks/price/**marketability of the Brooks Cambium. The politics is not necessary. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:07:23 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: Apparently you have not been following the earlier discussions on the Cambium. Yes, mainstream saddles are frequently plastic. I and others interested in leather free alternatives to quality Brooks and Berthoud saddles have said and this and other bicycle forums that the plastic saddles all tend to be both be horribly uncomfortable and have a short life span. The Brooks Cambium - which is not plastic, by the way - gives hope there may be an alternative. I know many cyclists who avoid animal products (politically neutral enough for you?) that are looking forward to finally having a quality, leather free saddle that can provide lasting comfortable rides. Maybe the Cambium will not be that product. Maybe it will. I expect that Brooks hopes that it is. Global response to the Cambium appears to be quite good. Certainly getting a lot of press on line. A niche has in fact been touched. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 10:56 -0500, Matthew Joly wrote: Arguing comfort or lack thereof of something one has never used is not disingenuous? Isn't that exactly what you are doing? I say again, the world is full of platic saddles. Most cyclists find them comfortable. If you haven't found one yet, you should go try all the various varieties available. There are hundreds, if not thousands. Don't dismiss them all out of hand as uncomfortable if you have not tried them. Zappos, to name one large company, allows people to search its site for Vegan shoes. There are vegan restaurants throughout the world. Vegan is a mainstream commercially acceptable market. Vegan may have been political 10 years ago. In 2013 it is not. It damn sure is OT. And in this context, also political. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
The thread was started by a person actually using the saddle, which is where discussions of comfort come in. You are injecting politics into it, then pretending you're not. I'm quite well versed in the tactics of political debate on the internet, and know the semantics game. I'm done with this. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:56:21 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: Arguing comfort or lack thereof of something one has never used is not disingenuous? Your argument is the lack of leather should lower the market value of the product. My response is to show there is in fact a significant market that values the lack of leather. Zappos, to name one large company, allows people to search its site for Vegan shoes. There are vegan restaurants throughout the world. Vegan is a mainstream commercially acceptable market. Vegan may have been political 10 years ago. In 2013 it is not. Matthew J Chicago, IL On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:35, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: *There are a growing number of prosperous vegans in the UK, US, EU, and of course India, who like nice things without dead animals in them. The majority is not yet enlightened, but we are growing and we are very willing to spend our money on products that don't need to kill an animal to make.* This was your response to me, which was the second time in this thread you had played this card. It is quite political, and saying it's not political is disingenuous. We are discussing the comfort/looks/price/marketability of the Brooks Cambium. The politics is not necessary. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:07:23 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: Apparently you have not been following the earlier discussions on the Cambium. Yes, mainstream saddles are frequently plastic. I and others interested in leather free alternatives to quality Brooks and Berthoud saddles have said and this and other bicycle forums that the plastic saddles all tend to be both be horribly uncomfortable and have a short life span. The Brooks Cambium - which is not plastic, by the way - gives hope there may be an alternative. I know many cyclists who avoid animal products (politically neutral enough for you?) that are looking forward to finally having a quality, leather free saddle that can provide lasting comfortable rides. Maybe the Cambium will not be that product. Maybe it will. I expect that Brooks hopes that it is. Global response to the Cambium appears to be quite good. Certainly getting a lot of press on line. A niche has in fact been touched. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
I was just thinking that I hope Riv gets a few of these saddles in stock. They have been supportive of Brooks as a brand and cyclists who want alternatives to leather products in the past so it seems plausible. I don't need a new saddle but I am curious how this compares to my Brooks. FWIW I think Brooks is marketing this saddle as an all weather model and giving that reason for the change in materials. I would be shocked if consumer requests for a non-leather saddle made in a hammock style like their other saddles are was not part of their decision process though. Jason Leach SF, CA On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:08:35 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Because it's fun to watch the histrionics: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bavsss.htm Cheers, David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet
Interesting... it's a green one like mine, but it doesn't have the rack braze-ons... Is mine that odd? On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:45:14 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote: If I didn't have my 58cm Ram now, I jump on this one! Whoever gets it will be happy! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Gentlemen, take your panties, pull them out and untwist them. Not sure how a persons dietary choices are thought of as political. Barry, nor George, could care less what you eat. Go step away from the computer and have a Snicker's bar, some of you get cranky when you are hungry. Its a seat, you put your butt on it. One may like it, one may not and still there is no way to tell till I put my butt on it. Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH FTM-PTB On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: I was just thinking that I hope Riv gets a few of these saddles in stock. They have been supportive of Brooks as a brand and cyclists who want alternatives to leather products in the past so it seems plausible. I don't need a new saddle but I am curious how this compares to my Brooks. FWIW I think Brooks is marketing this saddle as an all weather model and giving that reason for the change in materials. I would be shocked if consumer requests for a non-leather saddle made in a hammock style like their other saddles are was not part of their decision process though. Jason Leach SF, CA On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:08:35 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Because it's fun to watch the histrionics: http://www.rivbike.com/** product-p/bavsss.htm http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bavsss.htm Cheers, David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
a snickers bar isn't vegansorry couldn't resist. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Scott Henry ske...@gmail.com wrote: Gentlemen, take your panties, pull them out and untwist them. Not sure how a persons dietary choices are thought of as political. Barry, nor George, could care less what you eat. Go step away from the computer and have a Snicker's bar, some of you get cranky when you are hungry. Its a seat, you put your butt on it. One may like it, one may not and still there is no way to tell till I put my butt on it. Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH FTM-PTB On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: I was just thinking that I hope Riv gets a few of these saddles in stock. They have been supportive of Brooks as a brand and cyclists who want alternatives to leather products in the past so it seems plausible. I don't need a new saddle but I am curious how this compares to my Brooks. FWIW I think Brooks is marketing this saddle as an all weather model and giving that reason for the change in materials. I would be shocked if consumer requests for a non-leather saddle made in a hammock style like their other saddles are was not part of their decision process though. Jason Leach SF, CA On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:08:35 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Because it's fun to watch the histrionics: http://www.rivbike.com/** product-p/bavsss.htm http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bavsss.htm Cheers, David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New Riv Prototype
If you fell over, you'd be an upside down turtle. SPD harness point? Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:09:52 AM UTC-4, Skenry wrote: I like it, looks like a lot of fun. Probably would ever buy one, but it would be loads of fun to try. Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH FTM-PTB On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org javascript:wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2339507/The-hobby-horse-style-bike-pedals-saddle--holds-riders-harness.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet
Mine didn't have rack braze-ons. I think you got the oddball...in a good way. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:37:17 AM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: Interesting... it's a green one like mine, but it doesn't have the rack braze-ons... Is mine that odd? On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:45:14 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote: If I didn't have my 58cm Ram now, I jump on this one! Whoever gets it will be happy! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Food isn't vegan, actually. All the woodland creatures displaced and slaughtered in the plowing and maintenance of those grain fields. Short of growing all my own food using only hand tools very slowly, I can't figure out how I could eat a truly vegan diet. And it is absolutely a moral judgement to believe animals are equal to humans and thus deserving of the same treatment. That moral judgement has political ramifications. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:49:20 AM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: a snickers bar isn't vegansorry couldn't resist. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Scott Henry ske...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Gentlemen, take your panties, pull them out and untwist them. Not sure how a persons dietary choices are thought of as political. Barry, nor George, could care less what you eat. Go step away from the computer and have a Snicker's bar, some of you get cranky when you are hungry. Its a seat, you put your butt on it. One may like it, one may not and still there is no way to tell till I put my butt on it. Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH FTM-PTB On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, JL subf...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: I was just thinking that I hope Riv gets a few of these saddles in stock. They have been supportive of Brooks as a brand and cyclists who want alternatives to leather products in the past so it seems plausible. I don't need a new saddle but I am curious how this compares to my Brooks. FWIW I think Brooks is marketing this saddle as an all weather model and giving that reason for the change in materials. I would be shocked if consumer requests for a non-leather saddle made in a hammock style like their other saddles are was not part of their decision process though. Jason Leach SF, CA On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:08:35 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Because it's fun to watch the histrionics: http://www.rivbike.com/** product-p/bavsss.htm http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bavsss.htm Cheers, David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Sam gets a makeover and an odd riding experience
Gave Sam the road bike a makeover last week, bars re taped with fresh red Neubaums tape with a few coats of clear and amber shellac. Also added red anodized VP0001 pedals. So I took him on across town to pick up my wife's car...got a few nice bikes along the way. Stopped at Minnehaha Falls along the way for a beauty shot! Pictures here: http://www.ridingsteel.com/sam-gets-a-make-over/2013/06/ Along the way I passed two riders one on a curved downhill and the other making a 90 degree curb cut crossing each holding a phone between their shoulder and their ear both were adults and neither looked or rode like an experienced rider. The one making the crossing was at a potentially dangerous intersection, she just kept talking away as she crossed. Looks like we now have entered the distracted cyclist stage...granted they were no danger to me but I'd hate to see what either would have looked like if they went down. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Super Moon Half-Moon Bay Overnight. June 23-24
Proposed route for Sunday http://goo.gl/maps/TJrCA sunday meeting at the Ferry building around 10ish . As for Monday I'll check with Jared about the route back to SF. I know it's dirt over the hills and road coming back to SF. SUPER MOON!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
Seems like we are having trouble with camping grounds. Here's my proposed idea. I don't know how a handful of folks feel about it. BUT this could work out with some local knowledge around the area. We could all meet (via car or bike or train or spaceship) at a designated spot. Then we ride to a STEALH camping location good enough for a good group of folks. Then ride Sunday Morning somewhere. I don't know how big of a group we are having but if I'm sure we can get a head count. I try not to over think this things. We can worry about camp showers and water but seriously it's just going to be a night. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Shorty bolt for kickstand plate
Does Rivendell still sell the short bolt for mounting kickstands on kickstand plates? I am looking at the twin legger and the bolt is too long for a bike with a kickstand plate. I know I got the short bolt at Rivendell a while ago for another bike but I don't see it now. Would this fleabay one work? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Greenfield-Kickstand-Allen-key-25mm-Bolt-For-Tight-Mount-Fit-/350809426394?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessorieshash=item51addf09da Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet
My green Ram does not have braze-ons. I have seen a green Ram that the owner said was purchased right at the end of the model run - it did have braze-ons. Dan -Marin On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting... it's a green one like mine, but it doesn't have the rack braze-ons... Is mine that odd? On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:45:14 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote: If I didn't have my 58cm Ram now, I jump on this one! Whoever gets it will be happy! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Sam gets a makeover and an odd riding experience
I often think I should have bought one of the single TT Sams while they were available. Great looking bike. Cheers, David On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:24 AM, bwphoto bwphotograph...@gmail.com wrote: Gave Sam the road bike a makeover last week, bars re taped with fresh red Neubaums tape with a few coats of clear and amber shellac. Also added red anodized VP0001 pedals. So I took him on across town to pick up my wife's car...got a few nice bikes along the way. Stopped at Minnehaha Falls along the way for a beauty shot! Pictures here: http://www.ridingsteel.com/sam-gets-a-make-over/2013/06/ Along the way I passed two riders one on a curved downhill and the other making a 90 degree curb cut crossing each holding a phone between their shoulder and their ear both were adults and neither looked or rode like an experienced rider. The one making the crossing was at a potentially dangerous intersection, she just kept talking away as she crossed. Looks like we now have entered the distracted cyclist stage...granted they were no danger to me but I'd hate to see what either would have looked like if they went down. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Courage Classic 2013
Thank you Andrew for your donation! - Brian On Monday, June 17, 2013 11:21:07 AM UTC-7, Benedikt wrote: I'll be riding the Courage Classic again this year. It's a 178 mile, 3 day ride though 3 mountain passes in beautiful Cascades. It was created as a fundraising ride to support the Rotary Endowment for the Intervention and Prevention of Child Abuse and Neglect. If anyone wants to support a fellow Rivendell rider on his 38 pound Sam Hillborne in the sea of carbon you can make a donation here - http://www.courageclassic.kintera.org/Brian_Pickart Anything helps! All your donation dollars will go to the kids. All support for the riders is done by volunteers. - Brian in Seattle. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-EJRkg-IJmP0/Ub9TUik7oyI/BOU/_7BU9F0Powo/s1600/IMG3445.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Shorty bolt for kickstand plate
RBW has them. The one in fleabay should work too. — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Does Rivendell still sell the short bolt for mounting kickstands on kickstand plates? I am looking at the twin legger and the bolt is too long for a bike with a kickstand plate. I know I got the short bolt at Rivendell a while ago for another bike but I don't see it now. Would this fleabay one work? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Greenfield-Kickstand-Allen-key-25mm-Bolt-For-Tight-Mount-Fit-/350809426394?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessorieshash=item51addf09da Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Shorty bolt for kickstand plate
Peter, If you have an ace hardware nearby, that's where i picked mine up. but rbw still have it too. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/k5.htm On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:56:53 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Does Rivendell still sell the short bolt for mounting kickstands on kickstand plates? I am looking at the twin legger and the bolt is too long for a bike with a kickstand plate. I know I got the short bolt at Rivendell a while ago for another bike but I don't see it now. Would this fleabay one work? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Greenfield-Kickstand-Allen-key-25mm-Bolt-For-Tight-Mount-Fit-/350809426394?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessorieshash=item51addf09da Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
How sad that this is getting so off topic right when the “off topic” veers into territory that I (possessing both philosophy and political science degrees) am qualified to comment on. J The vegan choice is a moral choice; often motivated by religion (of course, religion and morals often intertwine). But there is nothing political about a moral or religious decision UNTIL one tries to use political power to force one’s morals/religion on someone else. I didn’t see anyone proposing a tax or tariff on leather, so I think we are safe until that happens. If it then escalates and somebody tries to take away my Brooks B17 Select, we are going to have serious trouble. Short of that, we are all good. A vegan lifestyle often leads to politics, but being vegan (by itself) doesn’t imply political motivations. People are redefining terms here, this is a linguistic argument. Back to bikes, this reminds me of “Fred”. The term Fred used to denote somebody who was a racer wannabe who rode a race bike and dressed like a racer while cruising down the bike path at 10 MPH. Obviously, the Freds didn’t like that term, so they redefined it to mean “anybody who doesn’t ride exactly what I ride and wear exactly what I wear”. I have been called “Fred” for riding in street clothes on platform pedals. The man calling me a “Fred” was sitting on a bench along the bike trail with his carbon fiber race bike. He was wearing shoes that he couldn’t walk in and matching diaper shorts and jersey. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:09:18 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Food isn't vegan, actually. All the woodland creatures displaced and slaughtered in the plowing and maintenance of those grain fields. Short of growing all my own food using only hand tools very slowly, I can't figure out how I could eat a truly vegan diet. And it is absolutely a moral judgement to believe animals are equal to humans and thus deserving of the same treatment. That moral judgement has political ramifications. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:49:20 AM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: a snickers bar isn't vegansorry couldn't resist. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Scott Henry ske...@gmail.com wrote: Gentlemen, take your panties, pull them out and untwist them. Not sure how a persons dietary choices are thought of as political. Barry, nor George, could care less what you eat. Go step away from the computer and have a Snicker's bar, some of you get cranky when you are hungry. Its a seat, you put your butt on it. One may like it, one may not and still there is no way to tell till I put my butt on it. Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH FTM-PTB On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, JL subf...@gmail.com wrote: I was just thinking that I hope Riv gets a few of these saddles in stock. They have been supportive of Brooks as a brand and cyclists who want alternatives to leather products in the past so it seems plausible. I don't need a new saddle but I am curious how this compares to my Brooks. FWIW I think Brooks is marketing this saddle as an all weather model and giving that reason for the change in materials. I would be shocked if consumer requests for a non-leather saddle made in a hammock style like their other saddles are was not part of their decision process though. Jason Leach SF, CA On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:08:35 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Because it's fun to watch the histrionics: http://www.rivbike.com/** product-p/bavsss.htm http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bavsss.htm Cheers, David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Shorty bolt for kickstand plate
I just bought a shorty bolt from Riv. Jared guided me to the hidden treasure bolt: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/k5.htm Use the drop down to select shorty bolt instead of the chain stay sandwich. (If the link doesn't work: go to Add Ons -- Kickstands -- Pletscher Kickstand Hardware.) On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:56:53 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Does Rivendell still sell the short bolt for mounting kickstands on kickstand plates? I am looking at the twin legger and the bolt is too long for a bike with a kickstand plate. I know I got the short bolt at Rivendell a while ago for another bike but I don't see it now. Would this fleabay one work? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Greenfield-Kickstand-Allen-key-25mm-Bolt-For-Tight-Mount-Fit-/350809426394?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessorieshash=item51addf09da Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
Manny, I've been mostly keeping out of this discussion but will offer my local insight here. I work at Cuesta College, half-way between SLO and Morro Bay. It also happens to be directly across Highway 1 from El Chorro campground. I ride to work most days and the campus is right at the Marine curtain between inland and coast influences. From my house in SLO 8 miles away I can never predict what the weather will be close to campus. It's a nice mix of sunny 6:30 mornings or maybe misting fog. This morning it was foggy all the way to the coast. yesterday it was sunny though foggy on the coast. Summer is foggy most days in Morro Bay. I like the fog for a few miles but once I get wet and start to cool I appreciate sunshine. Your chances are good that you will see fog most of the day and night at Morro Strand campground. You're likely to see sun sometime in the morning at El Chorro. Chance are you'll see sun even sooner in SLO. We just hired a new web programmer from Hanford who camped at El Chorro last week. He said they have lots of primitive campsites that are first-come-first-served, no reservations. He added that the $1 in quarters gets you 10 minutes of hot shower water.It's a county park staffed by county rangers who close up about 5pm. IF the Hostel were still an alternative I'll try to think of a place you might be able to store bikes for the night but none come immediately to mind. The Hostel is about 200 feet down a small hill from the train station. Doug, bike parking appears to be in a rack along the Hostel driveway entrance. I'll try to stop by after work and ask about bike parking and maybe take pictures. If you're planning on riding toward the coast I'd recommend gloves, wool, and some sort of beanie. There is much to do for everyone but little time ;) Cheers, Mitch On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Seems like we are having trouble with camping grounds. Here's my proposed idea. I don't know how a handful of folks feel about it. BUT this could work out with some local knowledge around the area. We could all meet (via car or bike or train or spaceship) at a designated spot. Then we ride to a STEALH camping location good enough for a good group of folks. Then ride Sunday Morning somewhere. I don't know how big of a group we are having but if I'm sure we can get a head count. I try not to over think this things. We can worry about camp showers and water but seriously it's just going to be a night. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/hd-ZifeYmYE/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Albastaches (new Moustaches) are Available!
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb3a.htm Just think of it as the love child of the Moustache H’bar and the Albatross. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Albastaches (new Moustaches) are Available!
Not yet, just tried to order.end of June. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:21:55 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb3a.htm Just think of it as the love child of the Moustache H’bar and the Albatross. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Albastaches (new Moustaches) are Available!
I know with the original m-bar it was recommended to move to a stem 2cm shorter than one would use with drop bars. I wonder what is recommended for this bar. It looks great and is very tempting to try. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Albastaches (new Moustaches) are Available!
So its like a zero rise Albatross? On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM, clayton treefir...@yahoo.com wrote: Not yet, just tried to order.end of June. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:21:55 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/hb3a.htmhttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb3a.htm Just think of it as the love child of the Moustache H’bar and the Albatross. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
??? 25K miles at least? Hardly short. Uncomfortable? Proof? Again 25 k miles over the years? My first Flite from circa 1990 that has been on half a dozen bikes with 7 k on the last one? Not to mention all the other Flites I've put thousands of miles on? And this is just one particular model of plastic saddle? Don't make unsupported universal assertions. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: I and others interested in leather free alternatives to quality Brooks and Berthoud saddles have said and this and other bicycle forums that the plastic saddles all tend to be both be horribly uncomfortable and have a short life span. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Rivendell Rambouillet
Wow what a great bike. I live in Burbank. Love to come by and see it. I'm in San Antonio but I'll be back in LA on Monday. cscottburg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
I'm going to have a nice steak tonight. If there is one thing that annoys, it is badly reasoned yet still pompous self righteousness. Don't eat animal products if you don't like to. Good Hindus don't, and good Orthodox monks don't, either. They have good reasons, but they don't assume a pose of pompous self righteousness. Hell, become a Jain, and sweep the ground before you as you walk, but don't spread it about, for God's sake. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: *There are a growing number of prosperous vegans in the UK, US, EU, and of course India, who like nice things without dead animals in them. The majority is not yet enlightened, but we are growing and we are very willing to spend our money on products that don't need to kill an animal to make.* This was your response to me, which was the second time in this thread you had played this card. It is quite political, and saying it's not political is disingenuous. We are discussing the comfort/looks/price/marketability of the Brooks Cambium. The politics is not necessary. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:07:23 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: Apparently you have not been following the earlier discussions on the Cambium. Yes, mainstream saddles are frequently plastic. I and others interested in leather free alternatives to quality Brooks and Berthoud saddles have said and this and other bicycle forums that the plastic saddles all tend to be both be horribly uncomfortable and have a short life span. The Brooks Cambium - which is not plastic, by the way - gives hope there may be an alternative. I know many cyclists who avoid animal products (politically neutral enough for you?) that are looking forward to finally having a quality, leather free saddle that can provide lasting comfortable rides. Maybe the Cambium will not be that product. Maybe it will. I expect that Brooks hopes that it is. Global response to the Cambium appears to be quite good. Certainly getting a lot of press on line. A niche has in fact been touched. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
This is funny. Last year, right about this time, it was when Rapha had just introduced their new shoes made out of Yak leather. I was peacefully riding my B17'ed Sam when approached from behind by a large group of fast/racer types. As the group sped by me, a guy on a Colnago yelled for everyone to lookout for Yak butter. It has stayed with me as the epitome of fredish brilliance! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTB: 56cm Rivendell Rambouillet frame or complete bike, any color.
I would like to purchase a Rivendell Rambouillet frame or complete bike. 56cm is the size. Any color. Please email or reply to post. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Exactly what proof would you need. To watch me and hundreds of other hammock saddle fans squirm while riding plastic saddles. I've tried dozens of models over the years. For a while I thought the Fizik Ronin [sp?] was going to be the one. The padding wore down in less than a month. Surface had visible abrasion marks. My weight fluctuates around 160-165. I don't think I am necessarily hard on saddles. Bottom line most people pay big bucks for Brooks and Berthouds not for bling but because their bodies do not take to molded plastic saddles. I don't think this is a controversial statement at all. Matthew Joly Chicago, IL On Jun 18, 2013, at 17:02, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: ??? 25K miles at least? Hardly short. Uncomfortable? Proof? Again 25 k miles over the years? My first Flite from circa 1990 that has been on half a dozen bikes with 7 k on the last one? Not to mention all the other Flites I've put thousands of miles on? And this is just one particular model of plastic saddle? Don't make unsupported universal assertions. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: I and others interested in leather free alternatives to quality Brooks and Berthoud saddles have said and this and other bicycle forums that the plastic saddles all tend to be both be horribly uncomfortable and have a short life span. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
I'm wondering what the pant stain factor of the Cambium may be. Some of my Brooks saddles have been OK this way, some less so. Also wondering about the breathability or thermal experience in warm weather. And shellacking of the cotton weave will not be allowed! Chris Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering what the pant stain factor of the Cambium may be. Also wondering about the breathability or thermal experience in warm weather. I've got the natural color model and as one might expect, haven't stained my pants. The worry would be the pants staining the saddle. I can't speak for any darker colored model. And, as I live in Hawaii which is reasonably warm and have ridden a 75 mile on the thing I can say that, at least for me, I had no problem with the saddle and it was a hot day. It didn't build up moisture (perhaps the cotton wicks a bit) and or seem too hot at any point. Aloha, Bob -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Albastaches (new Moustaches) are Available!
You know, I was excited by a slightly lower rise Alba idea but I think this is a huge miss in that you can't use it with Mtn. Bike levers ... I just don't get the wrist-up position of trying to use drop bar levers in a semi-horizontal way. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:21:55 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb3a.htm Just think of it as the love child of the Moustache H’bar and the Albatross. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTB: 52 Sam Hillborne
I thought I would get a little more realistic and see if I could find anyone selling a Sam Hillborne in the 52 size. I prefer the blue but any color would work as long as it's not the canti version. If you don't have one to sell but know of one or a deal on one somewhere let me know. I am bikeless at the moment so you would really be helping me out!! Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
WTB: Brooks Cambium C17 -Jimmy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Albastaches (new Moustaches) are Available!
@Mike: The curves being an inch closer makes up that 2cm difference. I'm guessing no swapping out necessary. @Jeffrey: The road brakes work fine horizintal-ish. No weirdness in my experience. I don't know what to make of the inch less of drop. IMHO they could have added an additional inch of drop. Cheers, David On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:38 PM, jeffrey kane jsk_onl...@mac.com wrote: You know, I was excited by a slightly lower rise Alba idea but I think this is a huge miss in that you can't use it with Mtn. Bike levers ... I just don't get the wrist-up position of trying to use drop bar levers in a semi-horizontal way. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:21:55 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/hb3a.htmhttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb3a.htm Just think of it as the love child of the Moustache H’bar and the Albatross. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
:-) Given that there are about 200 in the wild right now it's a long shot, at least on this list. As far as I know I'm the only one on RBW-owners-bunch who owns one. Aloha, Bob On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Jimmy Hutch ji...@jimmyhutchinson.comwrote: WTB: Brooks Cambium C17 -Jimmy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Albastaches (new Moustaches) are Available!
The times that I have tried Mustache Bars I felt like I could never get them high enough. I think the relaxed drop on these new style bars would have helped in those situations. I realize now that I was trying to make the bars into something they were not. I think Mustache Bars where designed as an interesting bar for going quick and I wanted a multi-hand position bar for riding not-so-quick. I have switched to alba bars on my commute bike and I like them. David, seeing where you live and ride a Dirt Drop X Mustache style bar. That would be a slick combination. Jason Leach SF,CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 16:07 -0700, Chris Halasz wrote: I'm wondering what the pant stain factor of the Cambium may be. Some of my Brooks saddles have been OK this way, some less so. Also wondering about the breathability or thermal experience in warm weather. And shellacking of the cotton weave will not be allowed! Not sure about a stain factor, but one tester on one of the forums said the rough textured surface destroyed a pair of bib shorts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Gee, anyone can order one right now, or is the obvious a disguise ? Only 145 British Pounds $226 USD. I thought of all places .. this place would be free of vegan talk. ! Ahahahahaahaha ! Whatever your ism is and we've all got our own .. it won't last forever... none of them do. I may not wish for violence of myself or anyone I know, but it's a choice. Every moment a choice. So to condemn another for their choice, when one day I chose the very same is the height of self induced amnesia , and actually creates more of the same. Condemnation for X creates more X . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Bike Snob NYC on carbon bikes
In case anybody missed this, it is pretty funny for lugged steel fans such as ourselves: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2013/06/fred-people-problems.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Albastaches (new Moustaches) are Available!
Flat road levers, as on a moustache bar, are really good. You can rest your palms on them for cruising, with the thumb tucked behind the non-aero cables and your pinkies tucked behind the lever. You get nice one finger leverage on the brakes. If you like to use the ends as your grip, you can use reverse levers, but I'd still mount the regular lever bodies with hoods on, in the regular place, in order to get that stretched out position. I like the look of these new bars, but I don't use mountain bikey anything* anymore, even on my mountain bike. Philip www.biketinker.com *cockpit related, at least. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Albastaches (new Moustaches) are Available!
They work fantastically in the dirt. I've tried multiple drop bars off road, and none of them are better than M-bars, although I have wanted them to be! Cheers, David On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:40 PM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: The times that I have tried Mustache Bars I felt like I could never get them high enough. I think the relaxed drop on these new style bars would have helped in those situations. I realize now that I was trying to make the bars into something they were not. I think Mustache Bars where designed as an interesting bar for going quick and I wanted a multi-hand position bar for riding not-so-quick. I have switched to alba bars on my commute bike and I like them. David, seeing where you live and ride a Dirt Drop X Mustache style bar. That would be a slick combination. Jason Leach SF,CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Albastaches (new Moustaches) are Available!
I agree with Jason. I thought the big drop of Moustache Bars was an unnecessary headache requiring a tall stem to fix. I also found (with my short arms) the curves to be a tad too deep. I love the look of this bar style, and now it finally appears I'll be able to *use* them. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:52:05 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: They work fantastically in the dirt. I've tried multiple drop bars off road, and none of them are better than M-bars, although I have wanted them to be! Cheers, David On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:40 PM, JL subf...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: The times that I have tried Mustache Bars I felt like I could never get them high enough. I think the relaxed drop on these new style bars would have helped in those situations. I realize now that I was trying to make the bars into something they were not. I think Mustache Bars where designed as an interesting bar for going quick and I wanted a multi-hand position bar for riding not-so-quick. I have switched to alba bars on my commute bike and I like them. David, seeing where you live and ride a Dirt Drop X Mustache style bar. That would be a slick combination. Jason Leach SF,CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bike Snob NYC on carbon bikes
Reminds me I've got a couple of fresh paint gouges on my Atlantis from a recent pitching over the gate exercise. I should attend to those.one of these days. dougP On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:06:02 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote: In case anybody missed this, it is pretty funny for lugged steel fans such as ourselves: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2013/06/fred-people-problems.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bike Snob NYC on carbon bikes
At least you don't have to take your Atlantis to the shop to be professionally tested for structural integrity. :-) On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:09:22 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Reminds me I've got a couple of fresh paint gouges on my Atlantis from a recent pitching over the gate exercise. I should attend to those.one of these days. dougP On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:06:02 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote: In case anybody missed this, it is pretty funny for lugged steel fans such as ourselves: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2013/06/fred-people-problems.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Sam H starring in film
Am I the last person on this list to see this? Apologies if this is old news--haven't found a thread on it. Apparently won praise at 2012 cycling film festival: http://vimeo.com/46103673 Both bikes moustachioed, too. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Mt Hood NF S36O.
That looks like a wonderful trip, and I'm hoping for an opportunity to get up there and try it myself some day. In the meantime, I'm inspired to try a longer distance overnighter than my routine outing. Thanks for that! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Mt Hood NF S36O.
Looks good Mike. Makes me want to come up and visit. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:40:39 AM UTC-7, Mike wrote: This was a great trip but far too short in spite of two big mileage days in the woods on fantastic back roads old and new. I love the Mt Hood NF, so many opportunities for bike camping. While I've been out there a number of times I still feel I've only scratched the surface. While cloudy, it never rained. I was never cold (or too hot) and the bugs weren't out of control at the campsite. Would have loved to have stayed out for another day. I'll offer up a bit more of a trip report later today. For now enjoy these photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157634197077834/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
Mike this helps a lot. thanks! So details so far. Date: July 27-28 Location: El Chorro campgrounds I'm planing on leaving early sometime Saturday. Hoping getting there sometime in the afternoon. This okay with everyone? On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:41:50 PM UTC-7, Mitch Browne wrote: Manny, I've been mostly keeping out of this discussion but will offer my local insight here. I work at Cuesta College, half-way between SLO and Morro Bay. It also happens to be directly across Highway 1 from El Chorro campground. I ride to work most days and the campus is right at the Marine curtain between inland and coast influences. From my house in SLO 8 miles away I can never predict what the weather will be close to campus. It's a nice mix of sunny 6:30 mornings or maybe misting fog. This morning it was foggy all the way to the coast. yesterday it was sunny though foggy on the coast. Summer is foggy most days in Morro Bay. I like the fog for a few miles but once I get wet and start to cool I appreciate sunshine. Your chances are good that you will see fog most of the day and night at Morro Strand campground. You're likely to see sun sometime in the morning at El Chorro. Chance are you'll see sun even sooner in SLO. We just hired a new web programmer from Hanford who camped at El Chorro last week. He said they have lots of primitive campsites that are first-come-first-served, no reservations. He added that the $1 in quarters gets you 10 minutes of hot shower water.It's a county park staffed by county rangers who close up about 5pm. IF the Hostel were still an alternative I'll try to think of a place you might be able to store bikes for the night but none come immediately to mind. The Hostel is about 200 feet down a small hill from the train station. Doug, bike parking appears to be in a rack along the Hostel driveway entrance. I'll try to stop by after work and ask about bike parking and maybe take pictures. If you're planning on riding toward the coast I'd recommend gloves, wool, and some sort of beanie. There is much to do for everyone but little time ;) Cheers, Mitch On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Manuel Acosta manueljo...@hotmail.comjavascript: wrote: Seems like we are having trouble with camping grounds. Here's my proposed idea. I don't know how a handful of folks feel about it. BUT this could work out with some local knowledge around the area. We could all meet (via car or bike or train or spaceship) at a designated spot. Then we ride to a STEALH camping location good enough for a good group of folks. Then ride Sunday Morning somewhere. I don't know how big of a group we are having but if I'm sure we can get a head count. I try not to over think this things. We can worry about camp showers and water but seriously it's just going to be a night. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/hd-ZifeYmYE/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Sam H starring in film
Hoodlums. All of them. Specially that asian kid. He keeps looking at the camera! What a weirdo. On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:23:01 PM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote: Am I the last person on this list to see this? Apologies if this is old news--haven't found a thread on it. Apparently won praise at 2012 cycling film festival: http://vimeo.com/46103673 Both bikes moustachioed, too. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Albastaches (new Moustaches) are Available!
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:28:06 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: @Mike: The curves being an inch closer makes up that 2cm difference. I'm guessing no swapping out necessary. That's good to know. Makes them a little more economical to try out. I wanted to like the older style but felt they were too narrow and didn't offer comfortable access to the brake levers when descending at speed. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: It is BACK!
And here is the built up bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157634204220895/with/9080786811/ still to do - trim off the rack stays, and bolt the front fender to the front rack. It will happen. Eventually. On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:29:03 AM UTC-7, Lynne Fitz wrote: When I will get time to build it up until next week is another question. But my beloved Rivendell Bleriot (last seen as a smoking heap of somewhat mangled steel after being left-hooked) is now back, with a new (and upgraded) fork and a beautiful paint job! http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/8962094278/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/8962094310/ Repair job by Steve Rex, paint job by his painter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
