[RBW] Re: Favorite Catalogue Quote Post
Okay, I can't resist...here's another one of my favorites... Page 52 - commenting on the Absurdly Fancy Mudflaps - Too expensive? Nobody's holding a squirt gun to your face - make your own with duct tape. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Minimum acceptable ground clearance below crankarm?
On 11/13/2013 11:54 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: I had short reach brakes before with 700x32mm tires and they barely fit under the brake bridge. Don't know what that converts to in 650b subtract the difference in radius (622 - 584 /2) of the smaller rim and add half the additional width (42-32 / 2) of the new tire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Minimum acceptable ground clearance below crankarm?
OK, so 19+5=24. I majored in liberal arts. What is the significance of the answer? A 650bx42 tire is 24mm smaller than a 700Cx32 tire? (assuming sizes printed on the sidewall are more or less correct). On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 11/13/2013 11:54 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: I had short reach brakes before with 700x32mm tires and they barely fit under the brake bridge. Don't know what that converts to in 650b subtract the difference in radius (622 - 584 /2) of the smaller rim and add half the additional width (42-32 / 2) of the new tire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Minimum acceptable ground clearance below crankarm?
On 11/14/2013 10:21 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: OK, so 19+5=24. I majored in liberal arts. What is the significance of the answer? A 650bx42 tire is 24mm smaller than a 700Cx32 tire? (assuming sizes printed on the sidewall are more or less correct). 19mm is the additional clearance you get because of the smaller rim. As you can see, I'm a liberal arts major too: you lose 5mm, so you have to subtract rather than add it because the tire is larger, so you have a net gain of 14mm clearance. I should have said add back, that's what I meant. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com mailto:palin...@his.com wrote: On 11/13/2013 11:54 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: I had short reach brakes before with 700x32mm tires and they barely fit under the brake bridge. Don't know what that converts to in 650b subtract the difference in radius (622 - 584 /2) of the smaller rim and add half the additional width (42-32 / 2) of the new tire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Minimum acceptable ground clearance below crankarm?
OK, so I should be able to run Hetres with fenders then. On Nov 14, 2013 9:40 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 11/14/2013 10:21 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: OK, so 19+5=24. I majored in liberal arts. What is the significance of the answer? A 650bx42 tire is 24mm smaller than a 700Cx32 tire? (assuming sizes printed on the sidewall are more or less correct). 19mm is the additional clearance you get because of the smaller rim. As you can see, I'm a liberal arts major too: you lose 5mm, so you have to subtract rather than add it because the tire is larger, so you have a net gain of 14mm clearance. I should have said add back, that's what I meant. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 11/13/2013 11:54 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: I had short reach brakes before with 700x32mm tires and they barely fit under the brake bridge. Don't know what that converts to in 650b subtract the difference in radius (622 - 584 /2) of the smaller rim and add half the additional width (42-32 / 2) of the new tire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Riv/SKS longboards as Bluemels re-enactment
Has anyone seen this? http://v-ccnewengland.blogspot.com/2011/03/sks-longboard-fenders-improved.html The author explicitly expresses his distaste of these fenders and of the Rivendell aesthetic, and preaches sanctimoniously about French re-enactors and anachronistic affectations yet it was a Riv product he chose as the basis for re-enacting a set of Bluemels. And his 2008 steed is sporting decades old MAFAC Racers, Weinmann non-aero levers and a VO constructeur bottle cage copied from an old French design. Not anachronistic in the least. *SKS calls them beige, but they are cream-colored. Their design partner for this product is Rivendell Bicycle Works. As one would expect from such provenance, there are aesthetic problems, but these can be overcome with a bit of careful Dremeling, a penknife, and fine-grade sandpaper. In short order these fenders can be made to match the classic shape of the standard SKS P45, a profile that functions beautifully and soothes eyes accustomed to the aesthetic ideals of classic British and Italian bicycles. * *As they come, the Longboard fenders are excessively long. This hardly would be noticeable amongst the clutter of racks, baskets, twine, tweed, and sloping (or extra) frame tubes on Rivendells. Indeed excessively long fenders actually are prized by French bike re-enactors (not that most would go anywhere near plastic fenders). However if rough stuff riding is on the agenda, the long trailing end of the front fender will act as a scoop for brush and leaves.* Technically, with respect to the rotation of the wheel, which is pertinent to the author's point, it's the leading edge, not trailing edge. *You who ride trails; who do not need to show you spent the maximum possible amount of money for fenders; and who have figured out there are better ways of engaging French culture - for instance reading Flaubert - than trying to make a thirty-year-old UJB look something like like a sixty-year-old Herse... prepare to cut. * Because Rivendell owners never touch trails. I don't know about you, but I've seen plenty of Bluemels shatter into bits on hard trials. My alloy fenders have held up great! *First pry the SKS bling-let from the front fender, and the mudflap from the rear. This corrects SKS's unfortunate fascination with black plastic.* *Bluemel's, right for a veteran cycle, would be all wrong here: an anachronistic affectation, and a misuse of a scarce, irreplaceable part.* I get the anachronistic bit, but scarce and irreplaceable? Hardly. I pick up used and NOS sets of Bluemels all the time for less than a set of Longboards. It's no wonder he disallows commenting on his blog. Anton, shamelessly and affectatiously re-enacting and anachronising since 2005, Tutter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv/SKS longboards as Bluemels re-enactment
This seems applicable. http://xkcd.com/386/ With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:31:49 AM UTC-7, Anton Tutter wrote: Has anyone seen this? http://v-ccnewengland.blogspot.com/2011/03/sks-longboard-fenders-improved.html The author explicitly expresses his distaste of these fenders and of the Rivendell aesthetic, and preaches sanctimoniously about French re-enactors and anachronistic affectations yet it was a Riv product he chose as the basis for re-enacting a set of Bluemels. And his 2008 steed is sporting decades old MAFAC Racers, Weinmann non-aero levers and a VO constructeur bottle cage copied from an old French design. Not anachronistic in the least. *SKS calls them beige, but they are cream-colored. Their design partner for this product is Rivendell Bicycle Works. As one would expect from such provenance, there are aesthetic problems, but these can be overcome with a bit of careful Dremeling, a penknife, and fine-grade sandpaper. In short order these fenders can be made to match the classic shape of the standard SKS P45, a profile that functions beautifully and soothes eyes accustomed to the aesthetic ideals of classic British and Italian bicycles. * *As they come, the Longboard fenders are excessively long. This hardly would be noticeable amongst the clutter of racks, baskets, twine, tweed, and sloping (or extra) frame tubes on Rivendells. Indeed excessively long fenders actually are prized by French bike re-enactors (not that most would go anywhere near plastic fenders). However if rough stuff riding is on the agenda, the long trailing end of the front fender will act as a scoop for brush and leaves.* Technically, with respect to the rotation of the wheel, which is pertinent to the author's point, it's the leading edge, not trailing edge. *You who ride trails; who do not need to show you spent the maximum possible amount of money for fenders; and who have figured out there are better ways of engaging French culture - for instance reading Flaubert - than trying to make a thirty-year-old UJB look something like like a sixty-year-old Herse... prepare to cut. * Because Rivendell owners never touch trails. I don't know about you, but I've seen plenty of Bluemels shatter into bits on hard trials. My alloy fenders have held up great! *First pry the SKS bling-let from the front fender, and the mudflap from the rear. This corrects SKS's unfortunate fascination with black plastic.* *Bluemel's, right for a veteran cycle, would be all wrong here: an anachronistic affectation, and a misuse of a scarce, irreplaceable part.* I get the anachronistic bit, but scarce and irreplaceable? Hardly. I pick up used and NOS sets of Bluemels all the time for less than a set of Longboards. It's no wonder he disallows commenting on his blog. Anton, shamelessly and affectatiously re-enacting and anachronising since 2005, Tutter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv/SKS longboards as Bluemels re-enactment
I like the bar and stem shifter combination on his prewar Evans http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uyGpYXb0Jro/TTtxtIAWUtI/AMs/QYm6dCLwbtU/s1600/IMG_7300.jpg I don't know if you've ever visited the CABE - none of those guys actually ride bikes - they just memorialize them On Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:41:59 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: This seems applicable. http://xkcd.com/386/ With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:31:49 AM UTC-7, Anton Tutter wrote: Has anyone seen this? http://v-ccnewengland.blogspot.com/2011/03/sks-longboard-fenders-improved.html The author explicitly expresses his distaste of these fenders and of the Rivendell aesthetic, and preaches sanctimoniously about French re-enactors and anachronistic affectations yet it was a Riv product he chose as the basis for re-enacting a set of Bluemels. And his 2008 steed is sporting decades old MAFAC Racers, Weinmann non-aero levers and a VO constructeur bottle cage copied from an old French design. Not anachronistic in the least. *SKS calls them beige, but they are cream-colored. Their design partner for this product is Rivendell Bicycle Works. As one would expect from such provenance, there are aesthetic problems, but these can be overcome with a bit of careful Dremeling, a penknife, and fine-grade sandpaper. In short order these fenders can be made to match the classic shape of the standard SKS P45, a profile that functions beautifully and soothes eyes accustomed to the aesthetic ideals of classic British and Italian bicycles. * *As they come, the Longboard fenders are excessively long. This hardly would be noticeable amongst the clutter of racks, baskets, twine, tweed, and sloping (or extra) frame tubes on Rivendells. Indeed excessively long fenders actually are prized by French bike re-enactors (not that most would go anywhere near plastic fenders). However if rough stuff riding is on the agenda, the long trailing end of the front fender will act as a scoop for brush and leaves.* Technically, with respect to the rotation of the wheel, which is pertinent to the author's point, it's the leading edge, not trailing edge. *You who ride trails; who do not need to show you spent the maximum possible amount of money for fenders; and who have figured out there are better ways of engaging French culture - for instance reading Flaubert - than trying to make a thirty-year-old UJB look something like like a sixty-year-old Herse... prepare to cut. * Because Rivendell owners never touch trails. I don't know about you, but I've seen plenty of Bluemels shatter into bits on hard trials. My alloy fenders have held up great! *First pry the SKS bling-let from the front fender, and the mudflap from the rear. This corrects SKS's unfortunate fascination with black plastic.* *Bluemel's, right for a veteran cycle, would be all wrong here: an anachronistic affectation, and a misuse of a scarce, irreplaceable part.* I get the anachronistic bit, but scarce and irreplaceable? Hardly. I pick up used and NOS sets of Bluemels all the time for less than a set of Longboards. It's no wonder he disallows commenting on his blog. Anton, shamelessly and affectatiously re-enacting and anachronising since 2005, Tutter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Minimum acceptable ground clearance below crankarm?
Jim Yes, you should be able to do that. Steve got the rim part right, but the tire part has a small mistake. You don't half the tire width for this calculation. Your existing 700x32 wheel, which barely clears the brake bridge is (622/2)+32 = 343mm in radius and barely clears the brake bridge Your 650bx42 will be (584/2)+42 = 334mm in radius. You will have 9mm of additional clearance under the brake bridge, with Hetres. That same 9mm is what you use for estimating your change in BB height. Your bike will be 9mm lower to the ground when you go from 700x32 to 650x42. Additional tire deflection when you get on the bike might be worth considering, as well, but that 9mm is a good start. You use the full tire width when estimating wheel radius, not half the tire width, as Steve indicated above. You would take half the difference in tire width when you look at the sideways clearances, between the chainstays and the fork blades. A 42mm tire will be 5mm closer to the chainstays and the fork blades, so you need to check there for potential clearance issues. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:22:03 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote: OK, so I should be able to run Hetres with fenders then. On Nov 14, 2013 9:40 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com javascript: wrote: On 11/14/2013 10:21 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: OK, so 19+5=24. I majored in liberal arts. What is the significance of the answer? A 650bx42 tire is 24mm smaller than a 700Cx32 tire? (assuming sizes printed on the sidewall are more or less correct). 19mm is the additional clearance you get because of the smaller rim. As you can see, I'm a liberal arts major too: you lose 5mm, so you have to subtract rather than add it because the tire is larger, so you have a net gain of 14mm clearance. I should have said add back, that's what I meant. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.comjavascript: wrote: On 11/13/2013 11:54 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: I had short reach brakes before with 700x32mm tires and they barely fit under the brake bridge. Don't know what that converts to in 650b subtract the difference in radius (622 - 584 /2) of the smaller rim and add half the additional width (42-32 / 2) of the new tire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv/SKS longboards as Bluemels re-enactment
On Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:47:18 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: I like the bar and stem shifter combination on his prewar Evans http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uyGpYXb0Jro/TTtxtIAWUtI/AMs/QYm6dCLwbtU/s1600/IMG_7300.jpg It's also sporting a Riv bottle. I don't know if you've ever visited the CABE - none of those guys actually ride bikes - they just memorialize them Well, another blog post of hishttp://v-ccnewengland.blogspot.com/2012/05/rays-waterworks-ride.htmltries to rebuke this, while keeping an air of entitlement: *The longest and best yet rendition of a New England Rough-stuff Section classic: miles off-road, beginning with two-plus on railroad ballast guarded by poison ivy and an army of ticks - our kind of road. * *One rides these ways aware that mainstream cycling advocates are lobbying to clear and pave them over, so that the unadventurous may ride them as easily as driving down the Mass Pike. Enjoy them while they remain unspoilt.* Technically, they were spoilt once the rails were dismantled and trains stopped traveling them, since that's what they were built for. Whoever dreamed when they were built that railroad ballasts would be ridden 100 years later by guys born 50 years later, on bikes made 40 years later? I would love to read BikeSnobNYC's take on of all this. Anton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Pre-Repainting Tasks?
Yeah, we'll have to differ on that. The paint is in rough shape, but I'm also looking at the repaint as an opportunity to move to more elegant/less garish colourway. Midnight blue, blood red or even pea green maybe. We'll see. Some days, I like the orange; others, it makes me think 2003. KJ On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 2:09:19 PM UTC-5, Leslie wrote: Rams predate Riv adding kickstand plates... The AHH/Sam H/ is where they became prolific. (Did older Atlanti not have them, do newer ones have them now?) If I had an orange Ram in need of a repaint, it'd be going back to the original orange. (Says the guy with a Bombadil in Rambouillet orange)... -L On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 6:19:30 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote: @blakcloud Thanks, I didn't notice that page of theirs. Shoulda looked harder. Yeah, Velocolour is my top (and the obvious) choice. Will probably stick with the contrasting white or cream head tube, and solid colour everything else. Choosing a colour will be tough.. @Hugh My Ram is *sans *kickstand plate. I'll have to hit up Riv for the decals ! Thanks, KJ On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:43:15 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote: Hey peeps, I'm thinking about having my orange Ram repainted, and am wondering a couple of things: - How is the headbadge affixed? Is it held on with adhesive? Can i used the old heat+dental floss to get it off? Or is it riveted on or some such? - Does Riv supply replacement decal kits for all their models, including the Ram? I'm sure someone here has ordered a set- do I just send an email and ask them nicely? Thx Kieran Toronto, Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pre-Repainting Tasks?
Orange is very elegant! I would paint my forest green custom orange in a heartbeat! But I'm not really looking to repaint right now. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, we'll have to differ on that. The paint is in rough shape, but I'm also looking at the repaint as an opportunity to move to more elegant/less garish colourway. Midnight blue, blood red or even pea green maybe. We'll see. Some days, I like the orange; others, it makes me think 2003. KJ On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 2:09:19 PM UTC-5, Leslie wrote: Rams predate Riv adding kickstand plates... The AHH/Sam H/ is where they became prolific. (Did older Atlanti not have them, do newer ones have them now?) If I had an orange Ram in need of a repaint, it'd be going back to the original orange. (Says the guy with a Bombadil in Rambouillet orange)... -L On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 6:19:30 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote: @blakcloud Thanks, I didn't notice that page of theirs. Shoulda looked harder. Yeah, Velocolour is my top (and the obvious) choice. Will probably stick with the contrasting white or cream head tube, and solid colour everything else. Choosing a colour will be tough.. @Hugh My Ram is *sans *kickstand plate. I'll have to hit up Riv for the decals ! Thanks, KJ On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:43:15 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote: Hey peeps, I'm thinking about having my orange Ram repainted, and am wondering a couple of things: - How is the headbadge affixed? Is it held on with adhesive? Can i used the old heat+dental floss to get it off? Or is it riveted on or some such? - Does Riv supply replacement decal kits for all their models, including the Ram? I'm sure someone here has ordered a set- do I just send an email and ask them nicely? Thx Kieran Toronto, Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Minimum acceptable ground clearance below crankarm?
The wildcard I didn't mention was the 700x32 tires barely cleared the old brakes, Tektro RX40 short reach. I installed the Tektro R559 and the 650B wheels the other night and rode it yesterday with Nifty Swifty 650Bx32.8. There may actually be better clearance under the R559 just given that they have a way more optimal shape for big tires and fenders. I don't really know how you calculate for that, but anyway I am starting to feel better about this conversion. I'm planning on acquiring the 42mm tires and shortening my cranks to 170. That should put me right about where I started with the 700c wheels as far as clearance goes. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Jim Yes, you should be able to do that. Steve got the rim part right, but the tire part has a small mistake. You don't half the tire width for this calculation. Your existing 700x32 wheel, which barely clears the brake bridge is (622/2)+32 = 343mm in radius and barely clears the brake bridge Your 650bx42 will be (584/2)+42 = 334mm in radius. You will have 9mm of additional clearance under the brake bridge, with Hetres. That same 9mm is what you use for estimating your change in BB height. Your bike will be 9mm lower to the ground when you go from 700x32 to 650x42. Additional tire deflection when you get on the bike might be worth considering, as well, but that 9mm is a good start. You use the full tire width when estimating wheel radius, not half the tire width, as Steve indicated above. You would take half the difference in tire width when you look at the sideways clearances, between the chainstays and the fork blades. A 42mm tire will be 5mm closer to the chainstays and the fork blades, so you need to check there for potential clearance issues. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:22:03 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote: OK, so I should be able to run Hetres with fenders then. On Nov 14, 2013 9:40 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com wrote: On 11/14/2013 10:21 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: OK, so 19+5=24. I majored in liberal arts. What is the significance of the answer? A 650bx42 tire is 24mm smaller than a 700Cx32 tire? (assuming sizes printed on the sidewall are more or less correct). 19mm is the additional clearance you get because of the smaller rim. As you can see, I'm a liberal arts major too: you lose 5mm, so you have to subtract rather than add it because the tire is larger, so you have a net gain of 14mm clearance. I should have said add back, that's what I meant. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.comwrote: On 11/13/2013 11:54 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: I had short reach brakes before with 700x32mm tires and they barely fit under the brake bridge. Don't know what that converts to in 650b subtract the difference in radius (622 - 584 /2) of the smaller rim and add half the additional width (42-32 / 2) of the new tire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
Re: [RBW] Re: Minimum acceptable ground clearance below crankarm?
Do what feels right to you regarding crank arm length. I am one of those people who would never change crankarm length. I think running shorter cranks to solve pedal strike issues makes as much sense as squeezing your feet into smaller shoes to solve toe clip overlap. Many other people who are much more experienced than me believe that crank arm length doesn't matter much and that 5mm or even 10mm changes are hard to detect and if detected are easy to grow accustomed to. Again, do whatever feels right to you. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:32:37 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote: The wildcard I didn't mention was the 700x32 tires barely cleared the old brakes, Tektro RX40 short reach. I installed the Tektro R559 and the 650B wheels the other night and rode it yesterday with Nifty Swifty 650Bx32.8. There may actually be better clearance under the R559 just given that they have a way more optimal shape for big tires and fenders. I don't really know how you calculate for that, but anyway I am starting to feel better about this conversion. I'm planning on acquiring the 42mm tires and shortening my cranks to 170. That should put me right about where I started with the 700c wheels as far as clearance goes. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Jim Yes, you should be able to do that. Steve got the rim part right, but the tire part has a small mistake. You don't half the tire width for this calculation. Your existing 700x32 wheel, which barely clears the brake bridge is (622/2)+32 = 343mm in radius and barely clears the brake bridge Your 650bx42 will be (584/2)+42 = 334mm in radius. You will have 9mm of additional clearance under the brake bridge, with Hetres. That same 9mm is what you use for estimating your change in BB height. Your bike will be 9mm lower to the ground when you go from 700x32 to 650x42. Additional tire deflection when you get on the bike might be worth considering, as well, but that 9mm is a good start. You use the full tire width when estimating wheel radius, not half the tire width, as Steve indicated above. You would take half the difference in tire width when you look at the sideways clearances, between the chainstays and the fork blades. A 42mm tire will be 5mm closer to the chainstays and the fork blades, so you need to check there for potential clearance issues. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:22:03 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote: OK, so I should be able to run Hetres with fenders then. On Nov 14, 2013 9:40 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com wrote: On 11/14/2013 10:21 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: OK, so 19+5=24. I majored in liberal arts. What is the significance of the answer? A 650bx42 tire is 24mm smaller than a 700Cx32 tire? (assuming sizes printed on the sidewall are more or less correct). 19mm is the additional clearance you get because of the smaller rim. As you can see, I'm a liberal arts major too: you lose 5mm, so you have to subtract rather than add it because the tire is larger, so you have a net gain of 14mm clearance. I should have said add back, that's what I meant. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.comwrote: On 11/13/2013 11:54 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: I had short reach brakes before with 700x32mm tires and they barely fit under the brake bridge. Don't know what that converts to in 650b subtract the difference in radius (622 - 584 /2) of the smaller rim and add half the additional width (42-32 / 2) of the new tire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Pre-Repainting Tasks?
On Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:23:57 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote: Yeah, we'll have to differ on that. The paint is in rough shape, but I'm also looking at the repaint as an opportunity to move to more elegant/less garish colourway. Midnight blue, blood red or even pea green maybe. We'll see. Some days, I like the orange; others, it makes me think 2003. On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 2:09:19 PM UTC-5, Leslie wrote: If I had an orange Ram in need of a repaint, it'd be going back to the original orange. (Says the guy with a Bombadil in Rambouillet orange)... That's why there's a wide array of colors on the palette, eh?I like the Legolas blue, and the Roadeo red, and the Atlantis green, too... There was a sage green Saluki for sale here not long ago that I really loved, too, was on the fence about getting... Of course, my Ram is in the darker forest green, kinda like a British racing green w/ a bit of metallic to it, and I really like it, too. I've never had one repainted, but, I think Riv will send the decals straight to your painter for you -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv/SKS longboards as Bluemels re-enactment
About the comment at the end: As it stands, this traditional, but fairly new (2008) machine now has classic mudguards appropriate to its era. Bluemel's, right for a veteran cycle, would be all wrong here: an anachronistic affectation, and a misuse of a scarce, irreplaceable part. How, I wonder, is recreating the look of a 40 year old Bluemels fender by dremeling now appropriate? 2008 was only yesterday. Wouldn't a plain out of the package no cutting or dremeling at all Longboard or SKS silver be exactly appropriate, since that's what was available in 2008? And I completely agree with your comments re: sanctimoniousness. Smarminess, too. On 11/14/2013 11:31 AM, Anton Tutter wrote: Has anyone seen this? http://v-ccnewengland.blogspot.com/2011/03/sks-longboard-fenders-improved.html The author explicitly expresses his distaste of these fenders and of the Rivendell aesthetic, and preaches sanctimoniously about French re-enactors and anachronistic affectations yet it was a Riv product he chose as the basis for re-enacting a set of Bluemels. And his 2008 steed is sporting decades old MAFAC Racers, Weinmann non-aero levers and a VO constructeur bottle cage copied from an old French design. Not anachronistic in the least. /SKS calls them beige, but they are cream-colored. Their design partner for this product is Rivendell Bicycle Works. As one would expect from such provenance, there are aesthetic problems, but these can be overcome with a bit of careful Dremeling, a penknife, and fine-grade sandpaper. In short order these fenders can be made to match the classic shape of the standard SKS P45, a profile that functions beautifully and soothes eyes accustomed to the aesthetic ideals of classic British and Italian bicycles. / /As they come, the Longboard fenders are excessively long. This hardly would be noticeable amongst the clutter of racks, baskets, twine, tweed, and sloping (or extra) frame tubes on Rivendells. Indeed excessively long fenders actually are prized by French bike re-enactors (not that most would go anywhere near plastic fenders). However if rough stuff riding is on the agenda, the long trailing end of the front fender will act as a scoop for brush and leaves. / Technically, with respect to the rotation of the wheel, which is pertinent to the author's point, it's the leading edge, not trailing edge./ You who ride trails; who do not need to show you spent the maximum possible amount of money for fenders; and who have figured out there are better ways of engaging French culture - for instance reading Flaubert - than trying to make a thirty-year-old UJB look something like like a sixty-year-old Herse... prepare to cut. / Because Rivendell owners never touch trails. I don't know about you, but I've seen plenty of Bluemels shatter into bits on hard trials. My alloy fenders have held up great! /First pry the SKS bling-let from the front fender, and the mudflap from the rear. This corrects SKS's unfortunate fascination with black plastic. / /Bluemel's, right for a veteran cycle, would be all wrong here: an anachronistic affectation, and a misuse of a scarce, irreplaceable part./ I get the anachronistic bit, but scarce and irreplaceable? Hardly. I pick up used and NOS sets of Bluemels all the time for less than a set of Longboards. It's no wonder he disallows commenting on his blog. Anton, shamelessly and affectatiously re-enacting and anachronising since 2005, Tutter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Trade my XL for your L MUSA Shorts
I would like to trade my MUSA shorts, size XL, for your MUSA shorts, size L. Mine are navy blue with contrasting black crotch and pocket-innards. Red bar-tack stitching. Excellent condition, no problems. Current design, just like this (only Blue/Black): http://www.rivbike.com/bike-shorts-p/ab1-greybloo.htm Photo: *http://tinyurl.com/lwokhsm http://tinyurl.com/lwokhsm* Will trade for any color other than black since I already have those. Thanks, David G in San Diego -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Minimum acceptable ground clearance below crankarm?
I already decided that I don't like the current TA 180s on my Riv. I was going to try to live with them (see Kneesavers thread) but I think I would prefer to reclaim some ground clearance now that I've seen how low it is. I do like the 175s on my Paul Taylor so my thinking is maybe it's another 5mm in the right direction? And I reclaim a full centimeter of ground clearance. Or I could just get 175s, I'm looking at some Sugino XD600 46-36-26 and the vendor I'm looking at has both 170 and 175. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Do what feels right to you regarding crank arm length. I am one of those people who would never change crankarm length. I think running shorter cranks to solve pedal strike issues makes as much sense as squeezing your feet into smaller shoes to solve toe clip overlap. Many other people who are much more experienced than me believe that crank arm length doesn't matter much and that 5mm or even 10mm changes are hard to detect and if detected are easy to grow accustomed to. Again, do whatever feels right to you. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:32:37 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote: The wildcard I didn't mention was the 700x32 tires barely cleared the old brakes, Tektro RX40 short reach. I installed the Tektro R559 and the 650B wheels the other night and rode it yesterday with Nifty Swifty 650Bx32.8. There may actually be better clearance under the R559 just given that they have a way more optimal shape for big tires and fenders. I don't really know how you calculate for that, but anyway I am starting to feel better about this conversion. I'm planning on acquiring the 42mm tires and shortening my cranks to 170. That should put me right about where I started with the 700c wheels as far as clearance goes. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: Jim Yes, you should be able to do that. Steve got the rim part right, but the tire part has a small mistake. You don't half the tire width for this calculation. Your existing 700x32 wheel, which barely clears the brake bridge is (622/2)+32 = 343mm in radius and barely clears the brake bridge Your 650bx42 will be (584/2)+42 = 334mm in radius. You will have 9mm of additional clearance under the brake bridge, with Hetres. That same 9mm is what you use for estimating your change in BB height. Your bike will be 9mm lower to the ground when you go from 700x32 to 650x42. Additional tire deflection when you get on the bike might be worth considering, as well, but that 9mm is a good start. You use the full tire width when estimating wheel radius, not half the tire width, as Steve indicated above. You would take half the difference in tire width when you look at the sideways clearances, between the chainstays and the fork blades. A 42mm tire will be 5mm closer to the chainstays and the fork blades, so you need to check there for potential clearance issues. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:22:03 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote: OK, so I should be able to run Hetres with fenders then. On Nov 14, 2013 9:40 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com wrote: On 11/14/2013 10:21 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: OK, so 19+5=24. I majored in liberal arts. What is the significance of the answer? A 650bx42 tire is 24mm smaller than a 700Cx32 tire? (assuming sizes printed on the sidewall are more or less correct). 19mm is the additional clearance you get because of the smaller rim. As you can see, I'm a liberal arts major too: you lose 5mm, so you have to subtract rather than add it because the tire is larger, so you have a net gain of 14mm clearance. I should have said add back, that's what I meant. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.comwrote: On 11/13/2013 11:54 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: I had short reach brakes before with 700x32mm tires and they barely fit under the brake bridge. Don't know what that converts to in 650b subtract the difference in radius (622 - 584 /2) of the smaller rim and add half the additional width (42-32 / 2) of the new tire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: [RBW] Riv/SKS longboards as Bluemels re-enactment
Just Blog On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: About the comment at the end: As it stands, this traditional, but fairly new (2008) machine now has classic mudguards appropriate to its era. Bluemel's, right for a veteran cycle, would be all wrong here: an anachronistic affectation, and a misuse of a scarce, irreplaceable part. How, I wonder, is recreating the look of a 40 year old Bluemels fender by dremeling now appropriate? 2008 was only yesterday. Wouldn't a plain out of the package no cutting or dremeling at all Longboard or SKS silver be exactly appropriate, since that's what was available in 2008? And I completely agree with your comments re: sanctimoniousness. Smarminess, too. On 11/14/2013 11:31 AM, Anton Tutter wrote: Has anyone seen this? http://v-ccnewengland.blogspot.com/2011/03/sks-longboard-fenders-improved.html The author explicitly expresses his distaste of these fenders and of the Rivendell aesthetic, and preaches sanctimoniously about French re-enactors and anachronistic affectations yet it was a Riv product he chose as the basis for re-enacting a set of Bluemels. And his 2008 steed is sporting decades old MAFAC Racers, Weinmann non-aero levers and a VO constructeur bottle cage copied from an old French design. Not anachronistic in the least. *SKS calls them beige, but they are cream-colored. Their design partner for this product is Rivendell Bicycle Works. As one would expect from such provenance, there are aesthetic problems, but these can be overcome with a bit of careful Dremeling, a penknife, and fine-grade sandpaper. In short order these fenders can be made to match the classic shape of the standard SKS P45, a profile that functions beautifully and soothes eyes accustomed to the aesthetic ideals of classic British and Italian bicycles. * *As they come, the Longboard fenders are excessively long. This hardly would be noticeable amongst the clutter of racks, baskets, twine, tweed, and sloping (or extra) frame tubes on Rivendells. Indeed excessively long fenders actually are prized by French bike re-enactors (not that most would go anywhere near plastic fenders). However if rough stuff riding is on the agenda, the long trailing end of the front fender will act as a scoop for brush and leaves. * Technically, with respect to the rotation of the wheel, which is pertinent to the author's point, it's the leading edge, not trailing edge. * You who ride trails; who do not need to show you spent the maximum possible amount of money for fenders; and who have figured out there are better ways of engaging French culture - for instance reading Flaubert - than trying to make a thirty-year-old UJB look something like like a sixty-year-old Herse... prepare to cut. * Because Rivendell owners never touch trails. I don't know about you, but I've seen plenty of Bluemels shatter into bits on hard trials. My alloy fenders have held up great! *First pry the SKS bling-let from the front fender, and the mudflap from the rear. This corrects SKS's unfortunate fascination with black plastic. * *Bluemel's, right for a veteran cycle, would be all wrong here: an anachronistic affectation, and a misuse of a scarce, irreplaceable part.* I get the anachronistic bit, but scarce and irreplaceable? Hardly. I pick up used and NOS sets of Bluemels all the time for less than a set of Longboards. It's no wonder he disallows commenting on his blog. Anton, shamelessly and affectatiously re-enacting and anachronising since 2005, Tutter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Minimum acceptable ground clearance below crankarm?
If you still have the 700 x 32 wheels/tires on hand, just measure the radius. An owner of the Hetre 42mm told me that he measured the radius of his wheel at from the middle of the tire at the skewer to the edge is about 33.5 cm. My true 33mm x 700 wheels/tires on the same measurement basis give 350 mm.In my case, that would be a physical drop of 15mm. Your nominally 32mm might be a smaller radius, but you're probably looking at a difference of at least 10mm. Were you pedal striking before? If not, the 10mm might be still within a safe margin and you can hold off switching cranksets until you have tried the bike in its new iteration as 650b. Ian A Canada. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:21:12 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote: OK, so 19+5=24. I majored in liberal arts. What is the significance of the answer? A 650bx42 tire is 24mm smaller than a 700Cx32 tire? (assuming sizes printed on the sidewall are more or less correct). On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.comjavascript: wrote: On 11/13/2013 11:54 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: I had short reach brakes before with 700x32mm tires and they barely fit under the brake bridge. Don't know what that converts to in 650b subtract the difference in radius (622 - 584 /2) of the smaller rim and add half the additional width (42-32 / 2) of the new tire -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Cycle Exif - XO-2 feature
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Cycleexif/~3/Z2v2behJswg/bridgestone-xo-2 Cycle Exif is a worthy follow if your not familiar... A very riv-ish refurb of a nice XO-2 by the original owner. Nicely photographed too! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?
Dead-on. I had the unfortunate chance to make my commute more than 10 miles when I got home Tuesday night and realized at the steps I left my keys in the lock I leave on the rack at work, so I had to do a second round trip. My hands go into mitts below freezing. More shared air inside the insulation and less surface area to cool. I had my transitional temp gloves and by the time I got home I was in the early frostbite range (cold blast brought snow, daytime high of 34° and wind). Merino middle weight crew top, early '90s Patagonia Gore Windstopper vest, wool skull cap, rain cover over my helmet to close the holes, old TNF Velo jacket which is a shell that turns the wind, some spray, but mostly is very breathable so I never soak in the condensate in it. Been trying a pair of fleece-lined waterproof booties from Pearl Izumi over my usual cleated shoes (knee repair that impaired proprioception; foot floats off away from platform pedals). Most importantly, a new pair of pants made of Shoeller fabric as Matthew J recommends. I have a pair of 3/4 pants from Chrome I really like because of that fabric. REI made a pair of long pants sold as Acme pants. Only a lone XXL pair remain locally, so I bit the bullet and got a pair of in-season Mammut Traileika pants. Fantastic! No need to wear insulation beneath yet. Turns light water, wind and with a leg band no drafts. Tuesday's glove error corrected Wednesday morning by my trusty OR mitts. Sometimes in the winter months I will add some extra distance to my ride home because once tuned to the specific climate and response with clothing, I can go for miles and miles while staying comfortable. Too late and too long a day Wednesday to wander off path though. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 9:41:41 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: Hands, feet and ears need a lot of attention. 180s work for my ears. Many models fit easily under the helmet.. Lobster claw gloves are great when it gets real cold. Alpaca socks are comfortable and very warm. If you can afford it, Schoeller fabric jackets: http://shop.searchandstate.com/collections/all/products/s1-j-riding-jacketand pants: (Swrve, Outlier, Mission Workshop, etc. all have good choices) keep you warm but let perspiration escape. Many of the pants look better some of my auto driving colleagues' corporate casual attire. On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:24:33 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Just curious. My commute may get longer soon. I had been doing partial commutes of 5.6 miles from a park-n-ride, but would like to work up to the full 16 mile one-way commute one day. A change in my family's work schedule (3 of us with two cars) may necessitate this sometimes. Any Riv-peeps' cold weather tips? Gets down into the 20's here in the winter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride
So far that are up to three of us going. Here is the planned ride (switched from the Pikes Peak region so Denver area folks needn't drive three hours one way): The Ride: Colorado Trail, Segment 3. (24 miles RT) with possible options in the Buffalo Creek Rec. Area. -- open to ideas. The plan is for a fun, all day, but relaxed ride. Meet at the trail head around 9am Directions (from the Colorado Trail Guide Book): From Denver: 285 SW to Pine Junction. Turn left on Jefferson County Rd. 126 (Pine Valley Rd.) and proceed through Pine and Buffalo Creek. Continue 4 miles past the bridge over the South Platte River in Buffalo Creek to the intersection with FS Road 550. This intersection is also 1 miles past Spring Creek Road. Turn right (west) on FS Road 550 and drive 0.1 mile to the parking area. There is a parking fee of $5 (but parking may? be available on the FS road?). Food: I won't be eating, but you are welcome to bring whatever you like for snacks and lunch. There are plenty of food and beer options in the gambling town of Cripple Creek for after (though I can't join for my bludgeoned brain). If a Hard Brain Day: In the event that I'm not doing well enough to ride on Saturday, I will post here by 6:30am (let me know if that is not enough time before you need to leave), though you are of course welcome to do the ride anyway! I think that covers everything, but let me know if I missed anything. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Last Minute notice. Missing Link 40th Anniversary Party
Missing Link in Berkeley is having their 40th Anniversary Party. It's open to the public, with the intent that it's for friends of the Link. It's $5 at the door, but it's free for ex-employee/members like myself (1993-2001). It's from 7 to 10PM tonight. If I see you there then I'll see you there! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Last Minute notice. Missing Link 40th Anniversary Party
Cool store! Congrats! On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Missing Link in Berkeley is having their 40th Anniversary Party. It's open to the public, with the intent that it's for friends of the Link. It's $5 at the door, but it's free for ex-employee/members like myself (1993-2001). It's from 7 to 10PM tonight. If I see you there then I'll see you there! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] POLL: Leaf Music on your Longboard-ed Rivendell?
Fun question I have wondered what you Riv-peeps do: Do you allow leaf music to go on and on, or do you stop and remove them? My front longboard/leafscoop gets leaved up regularly and I leave them as long as there are no sticks. I hate to stop when riding, but sometimes the music gets to be too much and I have to get them outta there. Sometimes I succumb to the dangerous temptation to use my foot to bang on the fender to get them out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Flash CO Pikes Peak Ride
Here is a link to the trails around the CT segment 3: http://frmbp.org/maps.html Quite a few options, and if we want free parking, it looks like we could just park in Buffalo Creek and go from there. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: POLL: Leaf Music on your Longboard-ed Rivendell?
My brain requires silence. Any leave is a bad leaf. Any music is bad music. To my brain, anyway. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, November 14, 2013 4:58:38 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Fun question I have wondered what you Riv-peeps do: Do you allow leaf music to go on and on, or do you stop and remove them? My front longboard/leafscoop gets leaved up regularly and I leave them as long as there are no sticks. I hate to stop when riding, but sometimes the music gets to be too much and I have to get them outta there. Sometimes I succumb to the dangerous temptation to use my foot to bang on the fender to get them out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ortlieb Rollers!!!!
Patrick Which rollers do you have, front or back? I'm trying the decide between the two. On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:53:12 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: I traded a jaded pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses with fellow lister Joe Broach for a pristine pair of Ortlieb Rollers, 'cuz I don't need high end camping luggage, I need high end grocery luggage. I used them for the first time this afternoon, to carry 35 lb of groceries, and mail to Mom. I have a pair of Banjo Bros Market Panniers, which are very large and certainly not bad for the $50/ea price. But MAN! -- those Rollers are NICE!!! So easy to attach to the Fly! So easy to remove! So carefully designed! So elegant in operation! I hauled them into Sprouts this afternoon and shoved them onto the conveyor belt along with my fruit and veg and meat and such. The girl bagger said, Unusual! and I agreed. 35 lb, and they are hardly more than 2/3 full if even that. I bet that I can get two/2/II/dos/deux/do/mbili full paper sacks in each, if I wanted to and if my Fly and my Ram (OT content) could carry such weight. Oh: and riding the Ram for the first time in weeks, I was once again struck by how easy multiple gears make climbing steep hills with heavy loads. Hoooda Thunk? Patrick Moore, tripping on Rollers, in ABQ, NM -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Last Minute notice. Missing Link 40th Anniversary Party
Wow! That brings back memories... My mother raced for the Missing Link in 1976. Being only ten years old at that time, I had no idea that the store was only three years old. I can still picture Mom in her wool Missing Link jersey and leather hairnet helmet. Go Mom!!! cheers, Andrew From: Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:42 PM Subject: [RBW] Last Minute notice. Missing Link 40th Anniversary Party Missing Link in Berkeley is having their 40th Anniversary Party. It's open to the public, with the intent that it's for friends of the Link. It's $5 at the door, but it's free for ex-employee/members like myself (1993-2001). It's from 7 to 10PM tonight. If I see you there then I'll see you there! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: POLL: Leaf Music on your Longboard-ed Rivendell?
I stop and pull out any leaf. My brain doesn't like anything rubbing that shouldn't be rubbing. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 4:09:50 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: My brain requires silence. Any leave is a bad leaf. Any music is bad music. To my brain, anyway. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, November 14, 2013 4:58:38 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Fun question I have wondered what you Riv-peeps do: Do you allow leaf music to go on and on, or do you stop and remove them? My front longboard/leafscoop gets leaved up regularly and I leave them as long as there are no sticks. I hate to stop when riding, but sometimes the music gets to be too much and I have to get them outta there. Sometimes I succumb to the dangerous temptation to use my foot to bang on the fender to get them out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: POLL: Leaf Music on your Longboard-ed Rivendell?
Leaves? I would love to ride where it's so quiet I can hear a leaf, haha. On Nov 14, 2013 7:41 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I stop and pull out any leaf. My brain doesn't like anything rubbing that shouldn't be rubbing. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 4:09:50 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: My brain requires silence. Any leave is a bad leaf. Any music is bad music. To my brain, anyway. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, November 14, 2013 4:58:38 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Fun question I have wondered what you Riv-peeps do: Do you allow leaf music to go on and on, or do you stop and remove them? My front longboard/leafscoop gets leaved up regularly and I leave them as long as there are no sticks. I hate to stop when riding, but sometimes the music gets to be too much and I have to get them outta there. Sometimes I succumb to the dangerous temptation to use my foot to bang on the fender to get them out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: POLL: Leaf Music on your Longboard-ed Rivendell?
I let it roll while hitting the brakes and pretending to stop in the hope that the leaf will want to survive and leave me alone. after a short period of time I stop and remove/destroy/burn/rip/tear/hurt the offending leaf in an effort to set an example for other leafs that would think attaching themselves to my bicycle was ok. Sometimes they actually disembark in fear.. :) On Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:58:38 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Fun question I have wondered what you Riv-peeps do: Do you allow leaf music to go on and on, or do you stop and remove them? My front longboard/leafscoop gets leaved up regularly and I leave them as long as there are no sticks. I hate to stop when riding, but sometimes the music gets to be too much and I have to get them outta there. Sometimes I succumb to the dangerous temptation to use my foot to bang on the fender to get them out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: POLL: Leaf Music on your Longboard-ed Rivendell?
I just kick it into reverse, that usually flushes 'em out. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:50:16 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote: I let it roll while hitting the brakes and pretending to stop in the hope that the leaf will want to survive and leave me alone. after a short period of time I stop and remove/destroy/burn/rip/tear/hurt the offending leaf in an effort to set an example for other leafs that would think attaching themselves to my bicycle was ok. Sometimes they actually disembark in fear.. :) On Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:58:38 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Fun question I have wondered what you Riv-peeps do: Do you allow leaf music to go on and on, or do you stop and remove them? My front longboard/leafscoop gets leaved up regularly and I leave them as long as there are no sticks. I hate to stop when riding, but sometimes the music gets to be too much and I have to get them outta there. Sometimes I succumb to the dangerous temptation to use my foot to bang on the fender to get them out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Cycle Exif - XO-2 feature
Tony, That is a cool site and bike. Thanks for passing along the link. Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv/SKS longboards as Bluemels re-enactment
Hmm. He could have ended up in the same place by just replacing the front (and rear) mudflap with the SKS shorty mudflap. Was going to get more snarky about the column but will just let him be. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: POLL: Leaf Music on your Longboard-ed Rivendell?
Depends on the ride and how I feel. But usually after a couple of minutes, will stop and pull the offender from the fender stays. On Monday had a stick kick up and had to quickly stop to prevent any damage. In general, the noise doesn't bother. Sort of drowns out the voicesG. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Anton Tutter atut...@gmail.com wrote: I just kick it into reverse, that usually flushes 'em out. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:50:16 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote: I let it roll while hitting the brakes and pretending to stop in the hope that the leaf will want to survive and leave me alone. after a short period of time I stop and remove/destroy/burn/rip/tear/hurt the offending leaf in an effort to set an example for other leafs that would think attaching themselves to my bicycle was ok. Sometimes they actually disembark in fear.. :) On Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:58:38 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Fun question I have wondered what you Riv-peeps do: Do you allow leaf music to go on and on, or do you stop and remove them? My front longboard/leafscoop gets leaved up regularly and I leave them as long as there are no sticks. I hate to stop when riding, but sometimes the music gets to be too much and I have to get them outta there. Sometimes I succumb to the dangerous temptation to use my foot to bang on the fender to get them out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?
Used to live in Vermont. By far, my favorite riding gear I have ever purchased is a Marmot dri clime windshirt. I wore it on all but the coldest days of the winter (i.e. anything above 15 degrees F) and found it to be an amazing garment. It's like magic. With a merino long sleeve underneath, you are good to go. Blocks the wind, keeps you warm but not overheating. If you were standing around in it in 20 degree weather, it would not be warm enough, but on the bike it's perfect. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cycle Exif - XO-2 feature
Hey Erl, you are very welcome! Are you hanging in there with the cold and your commute? I'm holding strong so far, actually enjoying the added challenge a bit. Hoping to get back to some longer rides maybe after Thanksgiving, it's been a busy fall as always! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] T or F about trading down a size on Bleriot
T or F: If I trade my 55 Bleriot for a 53 Bleriot, will I lose a little bar height-ability in relation to saddle height? I am thinking yes, because while I can keep the stem at maxheight on both bikes, my 71 cm saddle height will sit me higher above the TT on the smaller frame a little, effectively lowering the bar height? I like to keep my Albas at Max height for Bolt upright sitting. Of course, if the 53 steer tube was cut higher than the one on my my 55 that would add height. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?
+1 on Marmot dri clime, even for balmy California. -Jim On Nov 14, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Used to live in Vermont. By far, my favorite riding gear I have ever purchased is a Marmot dri clime windshirt. I wore it on all but the coldest days of the winter (i.e. anything above 15 degrees F) and found it to be an amazing garment. It's like magic. With a merino long sleeve underneath, you are good to go. Blocks the wind, keeps you warm but not overheating. If you were standing around in it in 20 degree weather, it would not be warm enough, but on the bike it's perfect. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: fs: Rivendell Rambouillet - 58cm blue
Bumpin' again! On Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:19:08 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote: Okay...bumpin' with price drop. $800 (fees/shipping are additional). On Thursday, October 24, 2013 12:39:17 AM UTC-5, Eric wrote: It has been on eBay but it didn't meet my reserve. I'm firm on the price, which I think is pretty,pretty good. On Monday, July 8, 2013 12:19:01 AM UTC-5, Eric wrote: So I recently bought this beautiful Rambouillet from member Steve. And after a funny receiving it a funny thing happened. I took the frame down to the basement placed next to the other bikes, other frames, other wheelsets and other bike related stuff. Then I took a good look at everything, I assessed the stable and came to the realization that this is too much! and I can't possibly have every Rivendell ever existed (I own a Saluki Atlantis as well) and that (fill in the number) of bikes is quite enough. As a result this realization I have decided to sell this beauty! Rivendell Rambouillet - frame/fork/headset - 58cm Geometry can be found here: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html Nice condition but with a few knicks in the paint. No dings/dents. $900 (shipping / any PayPal fees are additional) img src=http://imageshack.us/a/img69/6862/ns0p.jpg; alt= / img src=http://imageshack.us/a/img534/4475/nwu0.jpg; alt= / img src=http://imageshack.us/a/img259/9592/lzos.jpg; alt= / img src=http://imageshack.us/a/img607/6788/93ff.jpg; alt= / img src=http://imageshack.us/a/img842/2697/ud5v.jpg; alt= / -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: fs: Rivendell Rambouillet - 58cm blue
I wish I were a little longer of leg. That seems like a deal to me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: What would YOU do?
Thanks folks for the responses. I haven't had the time to do anything with it in the past couple days, but when I just checked the CL listing, it is gone. (Deleted by author, is what it says.) Wonder if the poster actually sold a Brooks saddle? We'll probably never know. -Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] T or F about trading down a size on Bleriot
Like all things it depends. Assuming you use the same post and stem you will lose some height but that is only when both the stem and post are at their max height. Depending on how high they are on the 55 you may be able to get them just as high on the 53. If you have both the stem and post at the as low as possible on the 55, you should be able to get then the same place on the 53 (with a longer stem you could probably get the exact same position with a lower stand over). If you have the stem or post at/ close to the max height on the 55, you probably won't be able to get them as high on the 53. So it all depends on your current position. That's my experience anyway. Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] fs: Fatty Rumpkin - force field 650B tires (TWO! NEW!)
I purchased a pair (two) Fatty Rumpkin force field tires new. They've been collecting dust and I haven't even been through the first pair of original Fatty Rumpkins, plus I'd like to try out the 650b Contis. That being said, two NEW (never mounted) Fatty Rumpkins for $90 shipped from Chicago. And if you're local in Chicago we can work out a better price. Thanks! - Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: T or F about trading down a size on Bleriot
Ok, so for further explanation: 55 now has: Tech deluxe stem up at maxheight. Saddle height at 71cm (bb-top of saddle). For the 53 I will use: Same bars/stem assembly from the 55 at maxheight on the 53. Same 71cm measurement for saddle height. So will I have less bar height than the 55, in theory, because the 53 is a smaller frame than the 55? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTB: 6cm Technomic Deluxe
Need tech Deluxe with: 6cm extension 190mm rise -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: T or F about trading down a size on Bleriot
The head tube will be approximately 20mm shorter, same as the seat tube (unless top tube angle changes). Your saddle height won't change, but if you're maxing out the stem on the 55, it will be 20mm lower on the 53. On 11/14/13, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, so for further explanation: 55 now has: Tech deluxe stem up at maxheight. Saddle height at 71cm (bb-top of saddle). For the 53 I will use: Same bars/stem assembly from the 55 at maxheight on the 53. Same 71cm measurement for saddle height. So will I have less bar height than the 55, in theory, because the 53 is a smaller frame than the 55? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: T or F about trading down a size on Bleriot
Now to c*ompletely* confuse things..the saddle height will be the same, but the bars will be slightly lower *and* closer. There's a good chance the reduced distance will cancel the reduced height, leaving your body in the same position. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:17:27 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: The head tube will be approximately 20mm shorter, same as the seat tube (unless top tube angle changes). Your saddle height won't change, but if you're maxing out the stem on the 55, it will be 20mm lower on the 53. On 11/14/13, Michael john1...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Ok, so for further explanation: 55 now has: Tech deluxe stem up at maxheight. Saddle height at 71cm (bb-top of saddle). For the 53 I will use: Same bars/stem assembly from the 55 at maxheight on the 53. Same 71cm measurement for saddle height. So will I have less bar height than the 55, in theory, because the 53 is a smaller frame than the 55? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] S24O to Pt. Reyes Friday the 23rd
Did ya mean saturday nov 23rd or Friday nov 22nd? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: T or F about trading down a size on Bleriot
Forgive me for asking a question which has possibly been answered elsewhere, but what issues are you trying to resolve by going with the smaller frame? Only reason I ask is that I've never been on too big a frame, but I've been on plenty that were too small. In my personal experience, there's been upright, and there's been *cramped*and upright. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: T or F about trading down a size on Bleriot
Not at all. Thanks for asking. I need a really short reach to the bars - drops or otherwise. For instance: I use a 6cm extension Tech Deluxe stem on my Sam with Noodle drops. Perfect. Love it. *As for the Bleriot:* Right now, I have an 8cm Tallux with Albas on my Bleriot. Very short by RBW standards. But still feel the need to get closer. Perhaps the 55 frame is too big for me. Bars are all the way up. Saddle in KOPS. So I can't really get any closer. I hesitate to go 6cm extension Technomic stem with Albas on it for fear of being too close effecting the handling somehow. But of course, plenty of Alba-like Raleighs from the 50's and 60's had stems with virtually no extensions on them. So it may work. Also, the two people at RBW I have communicated with in the past had very negative responses at the mention of using short extension stems. I don't know why they are aghast at them, since RBW is reputed to be about function. This makes me feel like I am doing something wrong with their bikes, or something is wrong with me. I don't get it. Some people just have shorter trunks and arms than others. Makes me hesitate going to a 6cm stem extension. Maybe it will be great?? Who knows? But if I can't work it out, I thought about maybe downsizing to the 53. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Invisible Bike Helmet.
Well now... http://jalopnik.com/swedes-develop-invisible-bike-helmet-1460189477 ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
