Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-14 Thread Philip Williamson
I've only ever clamped a seat post, never a tube. I've only had a work stand for a few years, though. I may have seen a shop clamp a tube once or twice... In the eighties. You know what sucks? Balancing the bike with your HEAD while you try to remove the bottom bracket. I put the bike in the

[RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?

2014-10-14 Thread Anton Tutter
On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:23:37 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: And by the way...How come Honjo Hammered fenders for 650b prices swing wildly from 80-something$/pair to almost 200$/pair? Are there different levels of quality among Honjo 650b hammered fenders? Special runs? Be careful

[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Garth
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[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Ron Mc
Exactly. Garth beat me to it. Remember Not Ready for Primetime Players? In a way, Surly is Not Ready for Rivendell. It's tough to justify a $3000 bike. Surly is in a good place in the market. The MegaBikeShops all carry Surly, so it's good see them as a serious steel bike entry in the

[RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?

2014-10-14 Thread Ron Mc
here's the best safety option for Honjo fenders - tire wipers - Compass sells them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP5280024.jpg You can see them at the bottom of my fenders. They keep Everything except dust and water out of the fenders - they even scrape

[RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?

2014-10-14 Thread Ron Mc
Anton, I bought my Honjos from Jitensa and even racking up stays and fasteners, the bill was not excessive. If you totally want to cut the cost, you can go with Tanaka fenders (who I'm guessing makes VO fenders). On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:40:10 AM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote: On

Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO Mark's Rack and Berthoud adjustable rack and VO Randonner rack.

2014-10-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
des the hanging ededux 2 exist at this point? lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Looking online, I haven't found many front racks for sidepulls, and the only one I have seen with a dedicated light mount is the Berthoud rack (non-drive side). That is a big attraction to me, since I would

Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO Mark's Rack and Berthoud adjustable rack and VO Randonner rack.

2014-10-14 Thread lungimsam
The hanging edelux II version may be available in January/Feb/March/April 2015 according to SON and their distributor here in the states. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Platform/Spiked pedals question (gripsters, grip kings, etc.)

2014-10-14 Thread Ron Mc
Reporting on my first ride in the correct shoes on new Thin Gripsters. Wasn't a very long ride, about 15 mi, but a good clip chasing my daughter. The answer is they're reliable and invisible - everything you want. Don't have to think about them, they don't strike the ground in spite of their

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Anne Paulson
I am not remotely disappointed in Surly. Their wool stuff looks great. And they have jerseys designed for women! Ibex sold striped wool shirts before Rivendell. Doesn't mean that Rivendell is a bad yucky copycat; just means that people like wool shirts with stripes. On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 8:55

[RBW] Re: Platform/Spiked pedals question (gripsters, grip kings, etc.)

2014-10-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Yipes! Glad she's OK, and the bike too. Yep, I've the VP Vice on both mine and absolutely love them. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Re: Platform/Spiked pedals question (gripsters, grip kings, etc.)

2014-10-14 Thread Jim Bronson
The Thin Gripster is also known as the VP-001, I ordered a pair from Riv in the nice silver color but I also wanted a green pair and was able to source some green VP-001 for $46 shipped from eBay. They look exactly identical to the ones I got from Rivendell other than the fact they're green. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Platform/Spiked pedals question (gripsters, grip kings, etc.)

2014-10-14 Thread Ron Mc
not exactly news, but that is surprisingly good price - so was Riv's web special price of $68 - it was enough to make me choose these a gang of different pedals I was also considering.

Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Jim Bronson
I fully support the things that Surly is doing. I even looked at an XXL Ogre Disc the other day. I've never seen a frame with so many fork eyelets, and eyelets in general. Can run 29x2.3 or 700Cx40-something with fenders. Very versatile. No, not as attractive as a Rivendell, and probably

Re: [RBW] Re: Platform/Spiked pedals question (gripsters, grip kings, etc.)

2014-10-14 Thread Jim Bronson
Wow those things have really gone up in price! I'm glad I have my two pair already. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: not exactly news, but that is surprisingly good price - so was Riv's web special price of $68 - it was enough to make me choose these a gang

[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread iamkeith
I LOVE Surly. I was the one who put that Racing Sucks thread up on the list here, and I know I've said that the LHT is a copy of the All Rounder - but I never meant to imply that they were followers and not leaders in their own right. I just find the similarities and parallels between the

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-14 Thread Jim Bronson
I clamp mine on the top tube or seat tube every time, never a problem and never a scratch. I am careful about it though. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I've only ever clamped a seat post, never a tube. I've only had a work stand for a few

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Anne: did you ever write up a review of the Knard? Whether so or no, I'd be interested to learn how it handles and how it rides over soft and rough ground, compared to the Atlantis or any other ~2 tired bike you've ridden. Actually, I'm most interested in learning how 3 tires differ on soft and

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-14 Thread Steven Frederick
He devolving is more like it. Surly's are competent bikes, with great marketing. Rivs' are great bikes with inspired marketing. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Trenker dctren...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like it's gradually evolving into a Surly. ( Surlies are really good bikes. ) --

Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Tim Gavin
Yeah, I hate those Riv guys, they just make copies of vintage Raleigh Internationals and old French bikes. --end sarcasm-- Most bike problems have been solved by our inventive ancestors. Grant, Jan, Sheldon and others have reminded us that almost every new product was first in The Data Book

Re: [RBW] Re: new to me Redwood - unpack/ride

2014-10-14 Thread Leslie
Have to admit, my canti-Rom is getting more saddle times these days: yesterday's ride between rainy days: https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/15349848350/ On Monday, October 13, 2014 11:09:15 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, Roms of any variety are possibly the best

[RBW] Comments on Canari leg warmers? [Was: Over-the-knee knicker socks]

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_571211_-1___204690#ReviewHeader Can anyone comment on the durability of these? Light weight is fine since they would be for those (or these) intermediate days when it's cool but not cold. I'm well equipped for cold. Thanks On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at

[RBW] Kelso, Wa to San Francisco, Ca with Compass Barlow Pass 700x38c

2014-10-14 Thread Ty Graham
Hi, I just yesterday completed a 900 mile ride from Kelso to San Francisco via the Adventure Cycling Route. 18 days. 45k feet of elevation. I rode my Atlantis with the Compass Barlow Pass 700x38c tires. My only report is nothing to report. No flats or issues. Just mile after mile (after mile)

[RBW] Re: Kelso, Wa to San Francisco, Ca with Compass Barlow Pass 700x38c

2014-10-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic, Ty! Hoping you have lots to report other than nothing negative to report. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:53 AM UTC-6, Ty Graham wrote: Hi, I just yesterday completed a 900 mile ride from Kelso to San Francisco via the Adventure Cycling Route. 18

[RBW] Re: Comments on Canari leg warmers? [Was: Over-the-knee knicker socks]

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Never mind; I see that they are available only in XL+. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_571211_-1___204690#ReviewHeader Can anyone comment on the durability of these? Light weight is fine since they

RE: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
What led you to choose the Fatboy? Did you also consider other fatbikes? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gavin Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:14 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after

RE: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Sorry for prior post, should have taken my question off-group. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gavin Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:14 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv Yeah, I

[RBW] Re: Kelso, Wa to San Francisco, Ca with Compass Barlow Pass 700x38c

2014-10-14 Thread Ron Mc
I just look at the pictures. On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:57:53 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Fantastic, Ty! Hoping you have lots to report other than nothing negative to report. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:53 AM UTC-6, Ty Graham wrote: Hi, I

[RBW] Re: Seat post clamp bolt snapped

2014-10-14 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Every time I see a bike with a built-in seat post clamp I cringe a little bit. I've never been mechanically inclined and just started learning to work on my own bikes less than two years ago. My only mishaps were breaking the bolt in one of my Ergon grips (twice!!) and breaking the bolt in a

[RBW] Re: Seat post clamp bolt snapped

2014-10-14 Thread Ron Mc
while I'm guessing you're probably bored with my old Raleigh, it has the best-functioning seatpost clamp I've ever monkeyed with. Tightening the bolt is not what clamps the seatpost - it's the tension of the lug itself. You take a big-blade screwdriver and spread the clamp - you can slide the

[RBW] Re: Kelso, Wa to San Francisco, Ca with Compass Barlow Pass 700x38c

2014-10-14 Thread Anton Tutter
That's about everything one can hope for in a tire. You should drop Jan Heine a note, I'm sure he'd like to hear it. Anton On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:49:53 PM UTC-4, Ty Graham wrote: Hi, I just yesterday completed a 900 mile ride from Kelso to San Francisco via the Adventure

[RBW] Re: Kelso, Wa to San Francisco, Ca with Compass Barlow Pass 700x38c

2014-10-14 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Congratulations!!! On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 9:49:53 AM UTC-7, Ty Graham wrote: Hi, I just yesterday completed a 900 mile ride from Kelso to San Francisco via the Adventure Cycling Route. 18 days. 45k feet of elevation. I rode my Atlantis with the Compass Barlow Pass 700x38c tires.

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Mike
On Monday, October 13, 2014 9:37:19 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: They still get big credit for posting this: http://surlybikes.com/blog/post/some_answers_to_just_about_any_bike_forum_post_ive_ever_read

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Mike Schiller
If the sandal fits sounds like some other Co. I know On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:20:28 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: On Monday, October 13, 2014 9:37:19 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: They still get big credit for posting this:

[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
Whenever I need a little therapy or attitude adjustment I go to the page for the Surly Steamroller. There, Surly has the courage to ask me the question that so many people in my life want to ask: what are you, some kind of dick? On Monday, October 13, 2014 8:55:41 PM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham

[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: Over-the-knee knicker socks

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Speaking of leg warmers: has anyone used these, and can her/she tell me: 1. If the are light, med, or heavy weight; 2. How durable they are, particularly seams and zippers; 3. How well they stay up without being gripped by your shorts; 4. Do they run true to size or small or large?

Re: [RBW] Re: Seat post clamp bolt snapped

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
But integrated clamps are so much prettier! I cringe whenever I see a separate clamp. A bit more seriously, I myself tend to overtighten, less from being hamfisted than from being impatient and anxious, and I've bent more than one integrated clamp (fixed as Ron says with large screwdriver), and I

[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Philip Williamson
I think that stuff looks great. The wool longsleevies look like the Devold(?) shirts from Riv. I just kept on reading, after the Soft Goods post, and I liked it, too. Disclaimer (and more): I have taken QBP dollars and swag to write a couple guest posts for Problem Solvers. I think they are

[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread EricK
I'd venture nobody knows who made or marketed the first long sleeved, crew necked, striped wool shirt. Or, for that matter, who first wore one while riding a bike. We know it wasn't our friends at Riv. If Riv is promoting stylishly casual, comfortable, practical clothing that's at home on

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Jim Bronson
So I finally looked at the post, and at some of Surly's goods and these look interesting: http://surlybikes.com/gear/pants/pants says the stated 34 inseam are longer than any 36 they've seen. That sounds interesting to me as I wear a 36-38 inseam depending on manufacturer. Anyone else try

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
From Surly's site: *People who ride a lot sometimes like pants. Our WorkRide pants are made of medium-weight all cotton duck cloth. They’re durable, roomy and comfy. We’ve done a few things to make them riding pants instead of just pants you can ride in. First, we altered the seam structure in

Re: [RBW] Re: Comments on Canari leg warmers? [Was: Over-the-knee knicker socks]

2014-10-14 Thread Jim Bronson
I see they are in small also, does that help? And for those of us who are XL/XXL, sounds interesting ;) can't beat the price! On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Never mind; I see that they are available only in XL+. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:44 AM,

Re: [RBW] Re: Comments on Canari leg warmers? [Was: Over-the-knee knicker socks]

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Jim. No, alas, I need either Med or Larg, depending on the cut. But I did spring for the Nashbar Thermal leg warmers after reading the reviews. Will report (if I remember to do so). On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I see they are in small also,

[RBW] RBW listers should enjoy this

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
For those of you who don't read him regularly, this from BSNYC, who waxes more lyrical than cynical about his L'Eroica ride in Tuscany on the Brooks Blog. http://blog.brooksengland.com/wps/sometimes-the-best-rides-are-the-most-delicious-ones/ Many good photos and the usual good writing (IMO,

[RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread hsmitham
Hey Bruce, You just brought up a long term debate in this group Riv Vs Surly...as much as I love Riv I recognize that they didn't reinvent the bike, but have promoted an ethos I agree with as I know you do. I subscribe to the idea that the more selection the better whether in bicycles or

Re: [RBW] Re: Comments on Canari leg warmers? [Was: Over-the-knee knicker socks]

2014-10-14 Thread Jim Bronson
What someone needs to invent is leg warmer suspenders, so that when the elastic wears out, you can still keep using them ;) I guess it would be sort of like how a garter belt works ;) but anyway... On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Jim. No, alas,

Re: [RBW] Re: Comments on Canari leg warmers? [Was: Over-the-knee knicker socks]

2014-10-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
The Brits call them suspender belts. We call them garter belts. Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: What someone needs to invent is leg warmer suspenders, so that when the elastic wears out, you can still keep using them ;) I guess it would be sort of like how a garter belt works ;) but

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Anne Paulson
I haven't put a 2 tire on my Atlantis. The widest I've put is 1.7. But so far I LOVE the Knards. They stick to anything. (Supposedly they are subpar in mud. We're in a drought, so I can't speak to that.) They have way better traction than anything else I've ridden. I took a beginner's mountain

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Anne Paulson
We on this list think that steel bikes are great, that the bike industry in general places too much emphasis on racing, that wool shirts are a good riding alternative to synthetic bike jerseys, that bikes should fit wide tires. So... when a bike company makes steel bikes that fit wide tires,

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks; interesting and useful information to tuck away (until I have more $). but generally, I see that fatter = fewer worries about obstacles, which fits my own experience up to 65 mm wide. My Fargo, alas, will not (I am told) fit Knards. So, for my castle in the air, the decision is: a custom

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Though there is the option of a new fork by Chauncey for the Fargo, which I've been contemplating in the hope that it might improve the Fargo's sluggish turn in; ... Knard in front, 29er knobby in rear ... On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks;

Re: [RBW] Re: Comments on Canari leg warmers? [Was: Over-the-knee knicker socks]

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
They have; they're called garters. Seriously, back in the days before good sock elastic, when your cotton or wool or silk socks were all cotton or silk or wool, men (even!) wore elastic sock garters; I'm old enough to remember my father's from the early '60s -- he no longer used them, but he had a

Re: [RBW] Re: new to me Redwood - unpack/ride

2014-10-14 Thread WETH
Congrats on the new bike. Enjoy adjusting things and the riding. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Cool Porteur Style Rack Free for Someone Considering a Riv Custom - Complications Apply

2014-10-14 Thread Matthew J
I had this rack made for my bad weather bike: https://www.flickr.com/photos/clockworkbikes/sets/72157638195903946/ Ultimately I decided the trail and geometry are not optimal for riding with significant weight above the tire. Recently had the rack taken off and am using the bike in its

[RBW] Re: Cool Porteur Style Rack Free for Someone Considering a Riv Custom - Complications Apply

2014-10-14 Thread Matthew J
Well, that was fast. A Rivster with a new fork design in process may be able to use. Will advise if this does not work out for him. The RBW OB is definitely the place for schemesters! On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:47:47 PM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: I had this rack made for my bad weather

Re: [RBW] Re: Cool Porteur Style Rack Free for Someone Considering a Riv Custom - Complications Apply

2014-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
It's a beautiful rack; almost made me wish I had a porteur to put it on. Please require the new owner to post photos of the final build. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that was fast. A Rivster with a new fork design in process may be able to

[RBW] Re: Cool Porteur Style Rack Free for Someone Considering a Riv Custom - Complications Apply

2014-10-14 Thread Ron Mc
really striking - great job. On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:47:47 PM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: I had this rack made for my bad weather bike: https://www.flickr.com/photos/clockworkbikes/sets/72157638195903946/ Ultimately I decided the trail and geometry are not optimal for riding with

[RBW] Re: RBW listers should enjoy this

2014-10-14 Thread Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado
Fun! Thanks for sharing. On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:47:45 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: For those of you who don't read him regularly, this from BSNYC, who waxes more lyrical than cynical about his L'Eroica ride in Tuscany on the Brooks Blog.

[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread rcnute
The LHT is a great bike. The Atlantis is a great bike. The XO-1 was a great bike. (Never tried an All-Rounder.) But they all felt quite a bit different to me. Ryan On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:49:17 AM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote: I LOVE Surly. I was the one who put that Racing Sucks thread

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Mike Schiller
Patrick you can have your cake and eat it too with the new WTB 2.8 650B Trailblazer tire. It will fit on your gen 1 Fargo with 35mm wide rims. As far as Surly, I agree with Anne, steel, wool and fat tires are where it's at. I'm not a fan of the dropouts on some of their bikes but they

[RBW] SFR El Paseito Mixto Populaire 103k

2014-10-14 Thread ted
Anybody planing on riding this this Sat? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] BUMP:FS: 60cm Cheviot, nearly complete, ready to ship!

2014-10-14 Thread Michael Williams
Hey group,Im selling my Cheviot. Its a great bike, but I also own an Atlantis and Homer and theres just too much overlap, plus need to finance an upcoming trip to NZ. Sooo, its a pretty standard build. Its packed in a box, ready to ship 60cm frame Wheelset 36H Synergy/ LX hubs