Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar: A Bike's Bike. 5-year Review

Hi Deacon, Nice cycling area! Wonderfull pictures. Can't wait to get my 48 Hunqapillar I bought from Philip :-) On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 3:36 AM, 'Jennings' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I love my hunqapillar. I'm in the process of switching out my noodles

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me build my 55 Cheviot

Opp, I got that reversed It should be. Front 40 ring Rear cog 11 - ok 12 - ok 14 - ok 16 - ok 18 - rubbing 21 - rubbing 26 - rubbing 32 - rubbing Front 26 ring Rear cog 11 - rubbing 12 - rubbing 14 - rubbing 16 - rubbing 18 - ok 21 - ok 26 - ok 32 - ok On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 1:01 PM,

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me build my 55 Cheviot

Hi Bill, Unfortunately the rubbing is quite annoying since it requires trimming too often. I have been using a 3x8 gear system and I am quite happy with the setup with minimal trimming required :-) On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 7:06 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > I didn't gather that

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me build my 55 Cheviot

Hi Bill, Yes, I failed to provide more information; IG-51 chain width - 7.27mm CX70 derailleur width - 9.38 mm (inner width of the upper part of the derailleur where the rubbing occurs) Front 40 ring Rear cog 11 - rubbing 12 - rubbing 14 - rubbing 16 - rubbing 18 - ok 21 - ok 26 - ok 32 - ok

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me build my 55 Cheviot

Hi Belopsky, that is one very nice Cheviot. We bought the same Cheviot color :-) On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 2:37 AM, Belopsky wrote: > The one I built up is basically this: > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/bluelug/16535839719 > > > On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me build my 55 Cheviot

Hi Philip, Thats very generous of you :-) Unfortunately, Im on the other side of the globe (Philippines) and it will take too long to ship. I will try to find an alternative front derailleur from our LBS, but thanks anyway :-) On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Philip Kim

Re: [RBW] Re: Help me build my 55 Cheviot

HI Ian, yes I checked the height of the derailleur and tried the minimum recommend clearance and also tried moving it closer with the same results. On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 12:47 AM, Ian A wrote: > Also check the height of the derailleur. I generally find the minimum >

Re: [RBW] Clementine - First impressions

Daniel: 78cm, at least I think it is. usually b/w 77-79 anyway. Cranks are 170mm Sky in new west On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:13:22 PM UTC-8, Daniel Jackson wrote: > > Hey Sky, > > What is your saddle height on thst Saluki? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto M12 Front Rack (2 of 'em), Orc square platform rack - $50 each plus shipping

Leif, Good eye! They're just regular cork grips, but dipped in amber shellac on both ends, then clear shellacked over the entire thing. It was an easy way to spruce up the cheaper presto-log type cork grips. David River Grove, IL On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 10:03:28 PM UTC-6, Leif Eckstrom

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto M12 Front Rack (2 of 'em), Orc square platform rack - $50 each plus shipping

David, What's the material on the grips of the Clem in the second photo? Leather wrapped over cork? Looks great! Thanks, Leif Chicago -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Clementine - First impressions

Hey Sky, What is your saddle height on thst Saluki? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

[RBW] Selling an unused 55 cm Betty Foy with all the trimmings.

The link: http://m.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Betty-Foy-New-Classic-Romantic-Ladies-Basket-Step-through-/232163438626?hash=item360e04f022%3Ag%3A-nIAAOSw44BYQ1Vs&_trkparms=pageci%253A4ce39d73-ba89-11e6-b663-005056976b7c%257Cparentrq%253Acc9349551580a2ab9619952effe52be6%257Ciid%253A1 Cheers! Chris --

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

I thought of the Compass knickers, but Jan's description made them seem to thin -- I don't want to be obliged to wear tights under them when it gets cold. I found an excellent deal on 2 pr of Endura "Urban" pants at an apparently Spain-based vendor called "Bike Inn." The list is, IIRC, $98, but I

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

Patrick again thanks for the explanations. Yes, Gen 2 was baggier and RBW seemed to "crow" about it. Compass has a nice pair, have you looked at theirs?? They do not seem to be 4" below the knee from the pictures??? They are pricey, but in line with Compass stuff. John Hawrylak Woodstown

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

John: I owned a pair of the first gen MUSA knickers and they were just long enough to cinch under the knee and allow free movement; another inch would have been good. Apparently the 2nd gen were as you say like long pants that weren't quite long enough. They were also a lot baggier -- not my

[RBW] Selling an unused 55 cm Betty Foy with all the trimmings.

So 3200 for list members and 2800 buy it now for ebayers? Sky in new west -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Q for fellow Blustery Bonzos...

Deacon - you know my preference for fleece, and I would never try to convert you! But I will tell you that I have had good luck with a number of Seirus products. They seem to understand us nose open to the air people. Even their multi-layer balaclava lets me lift the lower panel to vent. Take a

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

Patrick Ok, now I understand why the extra length is required. Thanks. I do NOT remember any mention of why you need the extra length in the RBW description of the longer knickers. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:15:30 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > At least

[RBW] Re: Need Advice on my 1x Drivetrain Woes

I'm not a fan of SRAM chains. I would recommend a Shimano 6/7/8 chain, something like a HG-40. Also, do you have an extra derailleur you could try to use in place of the one you're currently using?Once I had a hell if a time trying to set up an old Shimano STX derailleur, switched it with

[RBW] FS: XT Parallelogram V-Brakes , travel agents, Ortlieb, Topeak handlebar bags, Rain cape

For Sale: All prices are shipped w/in CONUS 1) Shimano Deore XT BR-M750 Dual Parallelogram V-Brakes - very good condition, could use new pad inserts. - $45 2) Two Travel agent pulleys for using V-Brakes with drop bar levers. - good condition, some scuffs from mild use. - $25 3) Ortlieb 5

[RBW] Re: Q for fellow Blustery Bonzos...

I'm picky. I want unfiltered, unwarmed air. That's what my sinuses are for. Grin. Plus, blech filter smell vs. crisp mountain air? Nah. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 1:42:34 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote: > > What about the balaclavas that have that breather piece built

[RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

Take a rubberband or strap and snug up your pants just below your knee (squat as you do so, to allow for proper fit above the knee). Tuck your lower pants into a tall sock. Move. Ride. No constant pulling of the pants up and down the leg. Less energy. Less constant clothing motion. If needed,

Re: [RBW] Re: Need Advice on my 1x Drivetrain Woes

Huh! Very odd. Not at all my own experience. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 4, 2016, at 1:21 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > >> On 12/04/2016 02:10 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: >> Steve: I am always surprised when I find that people have difficulty >> friction shifting

Re: [RBW] Re: Q for fellow Blustery Bonzos...

Thanks. Very nice. I'll have to put these on my "keep in mind" list. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 4, 2016, at 1:19 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Looking at ultra distance riding in extreme temps event photos no one has a > viable long term wearable winter mask. The "beak

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

Knicker socks, like those from Bicycle Fixations. More flexible than long pants. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 4, 2016, at 1:39 PM, lum gim fong wrote: > > Why knickers in the first place? > > If it is warm enough for shorts, I'd wear shorts. > > Too cold for shorts?

[RBW] Re: Q for fellow Blustery Bonzos...

What about the balaclavas that have that breather piece built into them over the mouth? Maybe a Canadian rando group or Canadian commuter page? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

Why knickers in the first place? If it is warm enough for shorts, I'd wear shorts. Too cold for shorts? I'd opt for full length pants for full coverage. Why chill the olde shin bones with knickers? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Clementine - First impressions

It's a Velo Orange Grand Cru Course Handlebar -- I just like the shape of it. Sky in new west On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 11:53:21 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Thanks. I'd keep that Saluki, too! Is the bar a Maes Parallel? > > I also like the drop barred Betty. > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2016

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto M12 Front Rack (2 of 'em), Orc square platform rack - $50 each plus shipping

One Nitto M12 remaining for sale. $50 plus shipping (let's say $5 and I'll cover any extra, conUS). David in snowy River Grove, IL wishing he had time to install studded tires and hit some trails instead of being stuck inside writing papers On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 12:23:22 PM UTC-6,

Re: [RBW] Re: Need Advice on my 1x Drivetrain Woes

On 12/04/2016 02:10 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: Steve: I am always surprised when I find that people have difficulty friction shifting Hyperglide, with any number of cogs from 7 to 9. IME, HG cogs shift /better/ with friction than the old cogs with straight, square-cut teeth. I know what you

[RBW] Re: Q for fellow Blustery Bonzos...

Looking at ultra distance riding in extreme temps event photos no one has a viable long term wearable winter mask. The "beak extender idea Zed pointed to is the best one I've seen so far. It looks like most riders keep their face clear unless they have no other option, which is my experience as

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

Aye. http://www.orvis.com/p/moleskin-breeks/4y47s Most colors/sizes gone, as they are on clearence ($113, retail $250). Riding with them so far they are good up to 50˚F and down to at least 10˚F and 50 mph winds with no long johns under them. Followed the recommendation to size up 2 sizes and

Re: [RBW] Clementine - First impressions

Thanks. I'd keep that Saluki, too! Is the bar a Maes Parallel? I also like the drop barred Betty. On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Sky Coulter wrote: > I would flood you with photos of the clementine, but I haven't taken any > yet - I just started the first of a 4 day

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

Patrick the Deacon: can you point me to the source for your moleskins? I made several pairs of very nice riding knickers out of good quality men's dress pants, simply by having them hemmed 6 or 8" below knee, and having velcro straps added. I still have one pair, and I dearly wish I hadn't

[RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

Knickers, er, Breeches, uh, Breeks, are an old garment type and, as Patrick of the Moore points out, they are supposed to extend below the knee when unchinced so that when cinched above the calf there is room to move. My traditional birding moleskin breeks I am using this winter come down to

Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar: A Bike's Bike. 5-year Review

I love my hunqapillar. I'm in the process of switching out my noodles and going over to bosco bullmoose bars for a more upright position. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

Goes to show how hard it is to please everybody, i guess. I LOVED the longer knickers, and i have shortish legs. I'm talking out my a** now, but i don't think and didn't mean to suggest that some design feature made them unpopular. My understanding is that the manufacturer needs/expects to

Re: [RBW] Clementine - First impressions

I would flood you with photos of the clementine, but I haven't taken any yet - I just started the first of a 4 day set (12hr shifts) so probbaly won't be taking any until the middle of next week anyway. All my other bikes are viewable on flickr at:

Re: [RBW] Re: News around today's RBWHQ visit

Now that is interesting news. Please keep us updated. What will be different from the stock model? On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 8:50 AM, masmojo wrote: > I may have a semi-custom Hunq. In my near future .. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Q for fellow Blustery Bonzos...

Thanks Jon. Have wool Buff, no work at 10˚ to minus 20˚F, which is a whole different level of cold vs warmer than 10˚F (where I don't need more than my beard. Grin.). Lum Gim Fong, any randonneur groups are in the lowlands rather than the highlands, so they generally don't ride on "those"

Re: [RBW] Clementine - First impressions

Photos! We want photos and we want them now! On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 5:11 AM, Fullylugged wrote: > "the golden era of Rivendell for me were the bikes created between > 2000-2010" > > I know what you mean. I had a Saluki but have since sold it and still ride > a '95

Re: [RBW] Compass Guide to

Dynamo hubs are well worth the investment for any one who uses their bicycle regularly. The length of service from dynamo hubs is so good, and they are such good value, that even a top end hub at $300 or so pays itself back in droves. The SP hubs and Shimano dynamo hubs and Son hubs are

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

At least 4" below knee. Please! Otherwise, when you cinch them tight just below the knee, there is not enough slack to allow you to bend your leg comfortably through the pedal stroke. On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 12:11 PM, John Hawrylak wrote: > WRT Knickers, RBW would be

[RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

WRT Knickers, RBW would be better to stay with the traditional length, just below the knees. The last run had a length just above the ankles and looked like pants that were too short. I do not what they were thinking. No wonder they languished on the shelf. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On

Re: [RBW] Re: Need Advice on my 1x Drivetrain Woes

Steve: I am always surprised when I find that people have difficulty friction shifting Hyperglide, with any number of cogs from 7 to 9. IME, HG cogs shift *better* with friction than the old cogs with straight, square-cut teeth. I know what you mean by the feeling of lag, but while I experience

Re: [RBW] Re: FS 53cm Roadeo

Also, I forgot to mention the bottle cages are not included. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: 25 years now

>From a simply aesthetic standpoint, that catalog was/is miles above anything else. All you have to do is go back and look at Trek, Cannonade, and Specialized catalogs from that period. They look gimmicky and dated. The Bridgestone still looks thoughtful and contemporary. 25 years later. And

[RBW] MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

I think i saw a mention in a recent newsletter that a limited run might be in the works later this year? Don't quote me, though. I'm keeping my eye out but not my hopes up. Sounds like it wasn't good from a business standpoint, because of the need to purchase a full run of sizes - many of

[RBW] Re: WTT: I hHave brand new 51cm blue Appaloosa frame. Want butternut

Haha. Agreed. I often have very strong feelings about bike color...until build it up and ride it. Then it really becomes less of an issue and/or I end up getting attached to the color I originally wasn't crazy about. And if all else fails you can repaint it a few years down the road (or trail).

Re: [RBW] Re: Need Advice on my 1x Drivetrain Woes

Yes, fair enough. I probably should have explained that... I've had consistent problems friction shifting (which I slightly prefer with DT shifters) a 9 speed cassette. I know some people have no trouble with it, but I tried it for months and could never quite get the hang of it. Ghost

[RBW] MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

I just referred someone to MUSA shorts on another forum - now I can't find even knickers on Rivbike? What's us? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Q for fellow Blustery Bonzos...

Patrick, You can also try a local to you randonneur website page. They are mega milers in all weather. They probably have a forum of their own and can tell you what works for them on up to 600k rides in the Colorado wilds in winter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Q for fellow Blustery Bonzos...

The key to using a buff is pull it down when going slow and breathing hard (e.g. uphills). that keeps it dryer of course. If it's super cold (teens), it will freeze dry to a certain extent too. the beauty of the buff is that you can always rotate it if one spot becomes too damp to breathe

Re: [RBW] Compass Guide to

As Bill said once you get one Dynamo, they will start to prolferate. I really don't build a bike or front wheel without one now. The SP's like the one that was linked to are my "go to" now because you can get them for $100 or less & they are small & light. The newer SP's may be better, but are

[RBW] Re: 25 years now

Grant, For the record; I got it! (At least I think I did) I also wrote you a letter, with a couple suggestions & I guess other people may have as well, because the following year both of my very small niggles were addressed (stem & Cantilevers) & I doubt those were changed on my critique

[RBW] Re: Holiday Saddle question

I had a Brooks Special and could never get real comfortable on it, even after ten years. I tried a Selle Anatomica and now have them on all three of my bikes. Once they get a little beausage, they look better. I only had the sides of the saddle bother me in technical single track. After an

[RBW] Re: 25 years now

Ted wrote me a super nice and encouraging note either in '94 winter after Bstone announced its closing or early '95, in the first weeks of RBW---complimenting the XO-1 among other things, and it started a 25-year friendship. It was the first time I was aware of a stranger from faraway

[RBW] Re: News around today's RBWHQ visit

This is a quote from an article written by Jeremiah Knupp and published in the April, 2016 edition of American Rifleman. The article is about one of Ernest Hemingway's favorite rifles but I think this paragraph is a perfect summation of how I feel about an Atlantis/Hunqapillar vs an LHT or

[RBW] Re: News around today's RBWHQ visit

I am envious! That sounds a great plan! Like you I also got my Atlantis on this board & I totally love it. I have several 650B bikes & in the middle frame sizes I think it makes the most sense. I consider myself to be at the lower limit of what is idesl for 650B & most frames my size are 26"

Re: [RBW] Holiday Saddle question

Oh, I should add that I did buy one during that sale mentioned which is a good savings off the regular price but I personally am not going to buy another. I've seen the Rivet saddles in person and they look lovely but have never ridden one. Appears to be quality made (the Rivet). On Sunday,

[RBW] Re: WTT: I hHave brand new 51cm blue Appaloosa frame. Want butternut

On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 3:00:20 PM UTC-5, Ashwath Akirekadu wrote: > > I've picked up *the last 51cm Appaloosa frame* that was available at RBW. > I'm interested in a butternut frame. > Perhaps it was meant to be...blue. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Holiday Saddle question

Well this is a topic near and dear to my heart! :) I love Brooks saddles but ventured into SA due to good reviews on the net. As usual I went over board and bought like 4 of them (I own a bunch of bikes). After riding them and getting the sag I tightened them and the skirts of the saddle

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Christmas gifts -- questions

They know about saw too. Check out the Bahco Laplander Folding Saw. Lightweight and very capable. I also have a Condor Eco Parang. I use a fixed axe sharpener on it and it is razor sharp. Condor is in El Salvador and has German roots. On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 6:20:58 PM UTC-5, Patrick

Re: [RBW] Re: 25 years now

I'm sure I've shared this before but scans of that article, and quite a few Riv related articles from the past, are on my google site. Scroll to the bottom for links/pdfs. https://sites.google.com/site/renorambler/Home Best, Addison Wilhite, M.A. Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology

Re: [RBW] Holiday Saddle question

I destroyed an SA 'X' saddle in a single century ride a couple years ago... To be fair I was pushing their stated weight limit at about 240lbs but it was clear to me the saddle wasn't for me. I've had a second hand Rivet for about two years now and love it, much thicker leather and overall a

[RBW] Re: Holiday Saddle question

I recently got the X-Series https://selleanatomica.com/products/x-series The edges are not rolled but I'll drill holes and use zip ties. Years ago I sent them a B-17 and they did a cutout. I still have it and like it but the Sell has longer rails and is more adjustable. You do get a 30 money

Re: [RBW] Re: Need Advice on my 1x Drivetrain Woes

Sorry if I missed something by not reading all the previous posts, but I am just scratching my head at your component choices clearly the issue is trying to use 7 speeds on a 9+ set up. If your chain and derailleurs are optimized for more then 7 speeds then why not run more? You've already

Re: [RBW] Re: 25 years now

Now it would be Lead us not into Carbon Fiber. Titanium by contrast still gives me the warm fuzzies. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: 25 years now

Similar story myself, I was racing mountain bikes at the time. My first post Klunker mountain bike came down to a choice between an MB-1 & a Klein Pinnacle, I ended up going with the florescent green Klein, but sometimes wish I'd gone with the Bstone instead. Regardless, my affinity with

Re: [RBW] Holiday Saddle question

On 12/04/2016 01:22 AM, Surlyprof wrote: I received an email from Selle Anatomica that all their saddles were on sale for $99 during the holidays. I had thought about the X-series in the past to replace my B17. The goal was to get a saddle with a cutout. Others I had been considering were

Re: [RBW] Re: Need Advice on my 1x Drivetrain Woes

On 12/03/2016 11:52 PM, Max S wrote: Friction shifting should be by far the easiest to set up and manage – just get the limit screws set up right, which you can do without the chain on the bike, and you're good to go. So, there's definitely something going on that would be easiest to

[RBW] FS: SunXCD Downtube shifters - Front friction, rear 7/8speed index

These are great, but don't work for my setup, and I'm just going to go full friction rather than swap out other parts. Mounted but never 'used' /

Re: [RBW] Holiday Saddle question

Me too. On 12/04/2016 08:01 AM, Paul Y wrote: I have this issue with my SAs too (X and NSX), the sides do not taper downwards like on a Brooks and they cut into my inner thighs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: 25 years now

Pertinent now as it was when written, especially when you take in recent editorial like the BSNY post which dismissing much of the current bicycle marketing hoopla with the greater recognition of the performance improvement available from the supple sidewalled wide tire. That old Outside

[RBW] Re: Need Advice on my 1x Drivetrain Woes

Seems like a 10s chain is nearing the limit of physical integration given the number of things it has to play nice with in a 7-8s drivetrain. RD jockey wheels, each cog of the cassette and the chainring. Dysfunction would seem less likely if all the rear parts were of the same spec and the

[RBW] Holiday Saddle question

I have this issue with my SAs too (X and NSX), the sides do not taper downwards like on a Brooks and they cut into my inner thighs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: 25 years now

Thanks for the link. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Clementine - First impressions

"the golden era of Rivendell for me were the bikes created between 2000-2010" I know what you mean. I had a Saluki but have since sold it and still ride a '95 Road and an '05 Rambouillet (26"). I've seen local's Glorius and Clem-L, but like mine better. Overall, the Ram has the most miles, but

[RBW] Holiday Saddle question

I have Selle Anatomicas on all 4 of my bikes. RBW used to sell them and that was where my first one came from. They do stretch at first and then they stop if you follow the instructions and don't over tension. They also sell a longer replacement bolt for extra life on a worn saddle. Their comfy