Had a nice little loop on Saturday. When I returned, the sunlight just
caught things nicely.
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Purpose-built is sexy. Forumula One cars get your attention. Dragsters
and Funny Cars get the crowds at the auto shows.
A friend who happens to be a pretty high-level competitor at Ironman
Triathlons showed me his bicycle - a $10K wonder of specificity. He can
barely control it in a
Gabe suggests a good couple o' routes - are you starting from the city? If
so, you'll have to climb and ride a bit to hit Bolinas Ridge Trail. From
Ridgecrest (Seven Sisters) where it connects with Bofax, it starts wet and
sloppy, then gets rocky for a bit, then opens up and is more of a
Yes indeed.
And I posted it on my tumblr feed, but interview with the Long Shen owners
was in Rivendell Reader #25 - the “Life Before Leafblowers” edition. 2002.
It had three lugs on the cover and also had an interview with the
much-missed Sheldon Brown.
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I've never really had any luck doing that, as the glue I'd used was
reasonably tenacious and I did not take the time. They broke up pretty
well both times.
You'd need something slender and sharpened, reasonably flexible to work
around between the grip and the bar to separate the grip from the
After a reasonably low-mileage year in 2012, it's taken me about 2 1/2
months to get back to my bikes feeling springy this year...
Specifically to your questions: The Rambouillet and the Romulus are as
much the same bike as you are likely to find. (Minor variant of course
being the
Ahhh.. gotcha. It's been interesting to see how many folks size up over
the years.
I'd say go test ride a Roadeo and see what you think.
- J
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AASHTA* - http://sheldonbrown.com/brakes/index.html
And it's worth clicking through to the Jobst article on brake types here -
http://sheldonbrown.com/brandt/brakes.html
All modern brakes work. I don't think folks are really arguing for one
or the other type. There are certainly tradeoffs -
The early Stumps don't really have all that much in common with the
Atlantis. Looong wheelbase and stays (well - not really long Long like
the Appaloosa...) and canti brakes, but there they diverge.
Those mountain bikes were mostly reworkings of the Schwinn Excelsior frames
- the choice
Wow. Had missed the Peace Bike when posted. Nice, Bobby!
For the Cafe Racer approach, there's this -
http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc104-phillipfranklin0406.html
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There was a run of orange Rambouillets which had placement issues on the
rear brake bridge. I don't have specifics, but remember this popped up on
the ibob list way back when.
This image shows it with a standard reach rear brake -
http://cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr24_pg21.jpg
- J
On
I think it does if you ride there...
- J
On Monday, April 8, 2013 6:00:29 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
$50 bucks doesn't include transport to Riv HQ, does it? Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, April 8, 2013 1:59:03 PM UTC-6, keven@rivendell wrote:
Hello All-
We will be hosting
The Rambouillet Blue and the _original_ Hilsen Blue are identical.
There is some variance in later models, with some trending towards a
pencil blue - a bit more slate grey in the blue. And the current blue,
I'd describe as more of an ice blue...
Here's an example of a Hilsen and a
Lest it be forgotten:
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From 1997, I'd reckon it was the Road Standard.
Here is the page I still haven't completed, that at least has the original
three models, with some very rough notes.
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/
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If it is on the chainstay and looks like this:
http://www.campyonly.com/joebell.html
That would be Joe Bell Bicycle Refinishing. Pretty much one of the best
paint shops in the states. Available as an upcharge feature on a number of
models.
JS on the bottom bracket shell in the serial
Lots of good recommendations here. To troubleshoot, I would follow these
steps:
- Bike on stand, pedals backwards. If there is a stiff link, it will
obviously hang in the pulleys.
- Eyeball the chain from back/top - make sure there are no protruding pins.
- With no chain tension, grasp rear
Actually, that really should not change a thing in this case. That
specific adjustment is really to tune an indexed shifting setup. You will
adjust cable tension, but since the indexing is really done at the lever,
it is not a constant.
The core issue with modern drivetrains is that they
Hey there Patrick -
I think it's a notch or two past what should be posted here. If it's a
shop that has a used Rivendell on the blocks, that's one thing, but we've
generally kept things to either those bikes personally owned by group
members and are generally Rivendellian in nature, or are
Checking the tightness of the freehub involves removing the axle and then
using a hex wrench to tighten the freehub body into the hub body.
You do need a fairly big, honking hex wrench, but the task is very straight
forward.
Good call on the spacer.
Also - I've pulled lodged pebbles and
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Just to clarify my earlier comment:
There's wiggle which is pretty minor, and most moving parts have some.
I'm talking about play which was a noticeably off-axis movement. It's
kind of the difference between a creak and a clunk when you are riding.
One is the signal of a deeper problem.
There's no reason you couldn't use your Atlantis for that. It sounds like
you are really looking for similar position more than a frame spec, and
there's nothing about the Atlantis that would prevent that.
Going way back to the early printed flyers for the Atlantis, page 2 shows
what I think
Y'know what I'd love to see?
Non-ramped rear sprockets. Just like on the old freewheels we used to get,
but set on a carrier so they would fit on current freehubs. Steel? Sure,
if that is easier, but aluminum is fine if the teeth were longer. 8
sprockets or even 9, so the size would be
And just to echo Joe's comment, as an AHH/Quickbeam owner, I wouldn't
hesitate to load the HIlsen. And I've got them set up as Identical
Cousins - very similar in ride.
It's a tough balance to have a spry, snappy, simple bike and have it behave
well when loaded.
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On Sunday, April 14, 2013 11:22:59 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
But, I'm not real keen on going back to the narrow bearing spacing from
the freewheel days. (Bent waaay too many axles back then.)
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On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 4:56:59 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
That assumes there's actually a market for straight-cut sprockets. Even
back in the 1970s they were actively searching for tooth profiles that
made shifting easier. Remember Shimano's wavy teeth? I doubt the total
As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting excited
about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where they have real
winters, things are looking good.
Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding, there
seems to have been a steady increase in
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:18:06 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote:
The non-Rivish post are like pornography, I know it when I see it. Or
something like that.
;^)
Thanks mike!
Yeah, that's kinda the test. There are posts which never hit the list that
land squarely in that genre. Usually by a
Go ride it Phillip. You'll be amazed. I look forward to your write up of
your experience.
On the other stuff... my, my, my... I do just shake my head some times.
But, since we got our new dog, she and the older one wrestle and chew on
one another for hours every day. It sounds
Point of Order re: Loosescrews.com -
PLEASE NOTE THAT WE ARE CLOSING UP SHOP! In our October newsletter we
announced our intention to retire in the spring of 2013. ALL of our
inventory is being liquidated at 20 percent off the listed prices. Your
discount will be calculated in the shopping
The outlier being the Quickbeam, which was built by Panasonic. Ram/Rom,
Saluki/Hilsen and Atlantis were built by Toyo.
On Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:29:41 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:
Waterford did early Rivs like the Road Standard and came back in the
picture a few years ago. Rams,
Managed a decent loop today out to the coast and back. Reached down and
snapped this one as I rolled north on Hwy 1 towards Pt. Reyes Station.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/8665732161/in/photostream
Grand day out.
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Thanks for the kind words. ;^)
As far as the warpage on the spokes, I have a sparodically updated set of
such images here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157594238072282
- J
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Well, there are definitely a few variables in that equation...
Let's work backward a bit -
Shimmy should show up at specific speeds. Or under specific speeds and
weight distributions. There are a number of things which tend to amplify
this, and there have been long threads here and on the
Yep. L'il Loafer on the Nitto Mini Front rack.
- J
On Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:08:38 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote:
is that a lil loafer? it looks really big in that picture
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If none of the bag offerings from Rivendell are fitting the bill, you might
want to consider custom/made-to-order bags from these two talented artisans.
I'd like to personally attest to the quality of Ely's bags. I do not own
one, but have seen several on bicycles in the SF Bay Area.
Shimmy is typically very speed dependent. When ride-buddy JimG was
diagnosing his issue on a non-RBW bike, it shimmied in a very predictable
pattern when using a front bag, rear load and unloaded. ). They were not
equivalent speeds - 15, 18 and 21 mph IIRC.
It's also extremely center of
Yeah... that's how it _should_ work. You are not the first person who has
reported that. Don't know quite what the breakdown is.
I'll poke at it with a blunt stick and see what happens. Thanks for trying
to use that!
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On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:47:36 AM UTC-7, Michael
Well... I hate to be pedantic about semantics, but words is all we've got
here.
I think it's helpful if we agree that Shimmy is what Jobst describes -
specific oscillation of the front end of the bicycle - the lateral
oscillation of the head tube about the road contact point of the front
Crosswinds are a different animal. Probably deserve a separate thread.
I was actually working on a blog post about that, following the very windy
ride of a couple weeks ago. Overheard several conversations which included
advice on how to deal with crosswinds that was at best wrong, at worst
Wow. Spot-on answers from everyone. Thank you!
For the official, admin-generated response: No. This is not your
responsibility.
Each group member has the ability to control their viewing/receiving
methods.
Just to take an inference from your post and make broader example, if
another
Just as a quick follow-up, I was rolling through my pop3 mail account, and
did get three separate emails. They had three different time stamps and
slightly different subject lines or content formatting.
So, there is a possibility that you clicked send rather than save draft,
and a distinct
Point of Order: There are 2339 members as of today, 4/28/13
Separate from the accounting, I like to think of this list as a focused
resource. Now that the archiving bugaboos have been largely sorted out by
google, the information which you can access from previous list posts and
discussions
As does a certain company in Walnut Creek -
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hsrd.htm
On Friday, April 26, 2013 3:26:33 PM UTC-7, William wrote:
Miche and Velo Orange both offer 1 threaded needle bearing headsets, if
it comes to that.
On Friday, April 26, 2013 7:47:44 AM UTC-7, Jim
Just to address the comments about moderation:
At this point, I'm still the bottleneck. No one else is co-moderating
posts.
I release moderated comments in one of two ways - the first is via email.
If I reply to notification of a moderated post, it goes through. This is
quicker, but does
Hmmm... never really thought about this until now. But, I definitely can
tripod myself with a slight hip shift and balance on my pointed toe on
pretty much all of my bikes. Usually use my to traffic (left) foot to do
this, so maybe there's an assist from the crown of the road. I don't have
Hmmm... never really thought about this until now. But, I definitely can
tripod myself with a slight hip shift and balance on my pointed toe on
pretty much all of my bikes. Usually use my to traffic (left) foot to do
this, so maybe there's an assist from the crown of the road. I don't have
Thanks to everyone for the kind words. I enjoy this virtual ride we're
sharing every day.
Most of the more extreme delays in passing posts through and unmoderating
folks occurred last year. My mother-in-law was fighting cancer, my wife
was with her 24/7 for the last couple months and she
Breathing new life into an older frame is an honorable thing.
But, I'd have your friend ask themselves if they really do enjoy that part
of the process. It is actually easy to drop a pretty good chunk of change
trying to revitalize older bikes. Personally, I love the process, and have
enough
Historically, the only bikes which have/had Rivendell headbadges were the
custom frames or the Generation 1 Rivendells (Longlow, Road, AllRounder,
etc... frames). With the introduction of the Atlantis, they all had
model-specific headbadges - e.g. Atlantis, Rambouillet, Romulus, Quickbeam.
The whole idea of where your saddle should be is both overlooked and
reasonably important. It helps to have an idea of your personal
dimensions - especially if your femur is long relative to your tibia. But
it comes back to hip angle, addressed very well in this article - The Myth
of KOPS
It does have a Reply to author option under the More Message Options
arrow. But, if you are accessing via email. not so much.
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It's been recommended by others, but Cyclemeter is pretty adaptible. They
just revised it and seem to be loading in more functions than I need, but
it has the ability for multiple activity modes. I like that we can do a
hike and track the distance, because our trail-running friend really
Hey there -
The MCBC (Marin County Bicycle Coalitioin) is doing a documentary/promo
film on riding in Marin. They are currently shooting some segments in
mountain biking and are looking for volunteers to be in the film this
Tuesday and Thursday. I think it wold be cool to see a knobby-tired
I'm pretty sure that Grant's and Jan's writings in this thread should be
monogrammed and framed, just so it can be easily referenced when future
postings try to drive a spike between their ideas.
I'm pretty firmly in the camp of The Ride Is What Matters, and if you are
comfortable and feel
I like the honey colored ones, but they definitely darken down with use.
Here's a quick set with some images -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157633477879224/
The second to last in the set is an old B-15. That's the only (I think)
original brown colored Brooks I've got. It
Your condition will always influence your ride quality. Sometimes just
the lack of coffee and a cruddy day at work really sets you wrong.
Luckily, a ride usually fixes that.
Grant's designs always whisper in your ear to take the longer way home,
then less direct route, the more adventurous
I don't think it was taken as a negative-to-RBW perspective. But, Steve
makes a good point - what you are really talking about is race geometry.
I have always thought of Grant's designs as real-world.
In my neck of the woods, where there tends to be more people riding more
recently
Now created:
Rivendell Box Art - a group on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/groups/rbwboxart/
I don't have any images, but hope that folks will dive in and share them,
so we can share this with Sean and the gang.
Have at it, folks!
- J
On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 12:14:28 PM UTC-7, Manuel
Ha! Wow. 10 images in less than an hour. Long may it wave!
On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 2:15:53 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
Awesome. Added mine--let's make this happen!
I see a trunk motif happening.
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Ha! No easy, blanket answer for that. If you land wrong and hard, you'll
mess up just about any wheel.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/2643604057/
Start slow and low. Get competent rolling up on one wheel and then the
other. Because that develops a good sense of how to land.
As is ...blunderbuss bikes.
On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:59:10 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
*the microfiche clipless pedals*
That's genius :)
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If you are brevet-curious:
http://www.sfrandonneurs.org/summer-2013-115k-populaire.htm
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Historically, we've generally linked to the posted photos. Over the past
year or so, there has been a steadily increasing number of people posting
directly to the list. I'm probably in favor on either direct links to the
images, which let people click through if they have the time or
Uhhh... No.
As long as you don't try to convince them that they need to change, it's
unlikely you'll get anything more pointed than good-natured guff.
Of course, if you slip and fall on the highly polished marble floors while
wearing your cleats, you won't be able to file suit.
Just Ride!
Tip O' The Mouse to Master-of-The-Useful-Hack JimG, who posted this link:
http://www.archive.org/stream/bicyclerepairing00burr#page/n7/mode/2up
Bicycle Repairing - A Manual Compiled From Articles in THE IRON AGE - 1896
Can't begin to pick a favorite section, but love the fact that the shop
The Sanity Tipping Point ™ is when you get to the trailhead of the
singletrack network, look down at your fixed gearing and decide that
there's no real point in flipping to the coastable side.
A point which is getting smaller and smaller in my third eye mirror
Enjoy the ride and keep it
I dunno Manny - those seem to cover everything BUT the mouth and nose.
+1 for the Buff - I have a few of these which I use when out in the sun on
the boat. Or when it's just frosty enough to require a thin windbreak.
They actually do cover well. Not sure if they are really all that
To paraphrase something Grant wrote a while back, ...a bike with no
scratches is a bike with no stories.
Get that bike out there and use it. Repaint it when it gets bad or bothers
you. I've yet to see anyone actually wear out a Rivendell.
- Jim
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Congrats on the finish. Great writeup!
- Jim / cyclofiend.com
On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:10:43 PM UTC-7, Iron Rider wrote:
and this is what happened.
http://eprider.blogspot.com/2013/06/catskill-600k-mediations-in-mountains.html
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Drive side rear dropout area is probably the most common area of failure of
any bicycle frame that wasn't crashed or otherwise damaged. Lots of
torques and stresses right there.
Certainly isn't an epidemic with the Rambouillet or Rivendells in general.
I'm sure they will be fair with you
Was unexpectedly on the road this week, and hadn't been paying close
attention to established, on-topic threads.I want to thank the list
members who called my attention to the Brooks thread which devolved
considerably from anything remotely RBW-specific.
I've locked the topic and would
Hey all - was on the water all yesterday, so didn't get a chance to pass
stuff through until this morning. Noticed that there were many, many, many
multiple post attempts from several different group members which were
replies to FS/FT/WTB posts. Just wanted to remind folks that it is a tenet
Mmmm... based on what you related, I'd have to fault the grumpy cyclist.
Since we can turn right on red lights (generally) here in CA, any time I'm
stuck at a stop light, I'll attempt to favor the left side of the lane
(assuming I'm in the rightmost lane). It's just seemed to be the
Hey folks -
I just wanted to let everyone know that if you are moderated and have
attempted to make posts in the last couple of days, there has been an issue
with passing the posts through.
Normally, I can log into google groups and bring up the moderated posts to
pass them through. The
Hi Shawn -
That's a fairly broad question with a good number of variables: Fenders or
Open-Wheel?, Fair-Weather or Everyday? Delayed Maintenance or
Son-of-a-mechanic obsessive?
Particularly with respect to the headset, where certain companies have
focused upon making the best and managed to
One thing we tend to take a little for granted these days was the
comparative lack of appropriate tires, brake and such which we are
currently enjoying. At the time, the common brakes were typically short
reach, and though the Rambouillet was designed for significant clearance,
there was just
Winds is tough.
But, there are a large number of variables in that Klein vs Atlantis
comparison. You could start with tire contact patch size, work through
bottom bracket height and chainstay length, on up through stem length and
saddle setback - all of which directly effect stability. When
Don't think that was ever specifically mentioned - there's the announcement
article and some flyer images here:
http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/
On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:20:42 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:
Anyone know how they came up with the name for that model?
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Did you see this on the Paul site:
http://www.paulcomp.com/braketech.html
Also, soft at the lever does mean more power at the rim. The trick is to
find the balance between powerful and not bottoming out on the handlebar.
AASHTA - still the best reference for understanding the variables of
Yeah, QB.
I may have a dalliance with my Hilsen for a while, if I've got serious
climbing to do, or (recently, as time has been a bit limited) with my old
SS'd MB1. But, then I'll climb back on the Quickbeam and there's just
something about that bike. It always whispers further on any ride,
The sliding is definitely a issue with a new Brooks saddle, especially if
you have been using the more prevalent commercial synthetic types. Subtle
changes go a long way on saddle adjustment. Also, after a few rides, your
hip bones (ichial
As I'd mentioned, Brian the Bike Locally Challenger (info here -
http://bikelocally.wordpress.com/category/2012-challenge-winner/brian-jones
and here - http://www.marinbike.org/Campaigns/BikeLocally/Challenge.shtml )
has some unique challenges when it comes to fitting him on a bike. I'd had
All of the printed material I have come across suggests that 56 was the
26/559 and 58 cm jumped you to the 700C/622 -
http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis
On Sunday, July 8, 2012 9:44:40 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:
... Is it my imagination, or
was it once an option to get a larger sized
The only stuff I have posted on the Mountain frame is here:
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/#mtnframe
(and there's a link there to a thread about the Generation 1 frames.)
- J
On Sunday, July 8, 2012 9:44:40 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:
... (I know that the mtb was only a 55cm, but I was
I don't know if folks caught the news this past week about the
password/username exposure, but it appears to have generated a few spam
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subscribed
Got out yesterday on the San Francisco Randonneurs Populaire, a ~71 mile
introduction to brevets which the club puts on a couple times a year. There
was a pretty decent crowd, with a good percentage of folks who had not ever
ridden a brevet before. After an intro and short talk by RBA Rob
Thought I'd posted all of the rellly old (as in when they were
submitted, not when they were made...) submissions, but with today's batch I
found Angus' Atlantis with a date stamp from quite a while ago (Gernot's
too, but it wasn't a Riv...). Oh well, it's kinda like clearing out the
Lisa -
It's weird - if I search for the topic Boston Harbor in the RBW list, a
link appears to your post. But if I click through the link, then google
states the link cannot be found.
Now, I did receive it via my email feed, but it doesn't seem to appear
here.
Please try reposting it
Haven't really dug into the actual pile of parts and bits, but these things
fell out of the rafters during a recent garage cleaning.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157630888662560
The salient bits for this list are the two sets of front panniers - I
bought these after (I kid
Ooops! Tap that fancy slippery mouse the wrong way and half the post
disappears!
Also - ONLY FOR LOCAL PICKUP
Park PCS-1 workstand. Battle hardened and scarred. - $85
Cyclops Fluid Trainer and front wheel stand - $150
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157630888662560
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Yeah - Brooks are generally pretty hardy. But, they are way different from
what most people have experience with. Since there is no plastic formed
layer keeping everything in place, soaked leather will stretch. But, just
to be clear, I regard this as a good thing. I think that Grant's
Not mine, do not know the seller.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/3199541302.html
Looks fully loaded and very clean, with a claimed Harris Cyclery build.
$2200 firm according to the ad.
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The Rivendell Quickbeam was originally announced in Summer 2002 as a Joe /
Curt built frameset which would help keep some volume going through. It
changed into a Panasonic-built production bicycle before becoming
available to order in January 2004. The first two runs were the Coleman
Green
The other thing which helped me (apologies because I've commented about
this before) was to swap the pulleys on the rear derailleur.
Newer RD's are designed to have float in the top pulley, which by nature
makes any direct-touch (i.e. non-indexed) system imprecise. The cogsets
on the
Hey there -
Since the tumble I took a couple weeks ago still has me off the bike, I've
grudgingly accepted the fact that I won't do this ride this year (Ribs,
healing, ultimately won't be a problem, but now it's uncomfy.).
I have an entry for the 2012 Levi's Gran Fondo (the full Fondo 103
Wow.
Man oh man oh man.You finally take a week's vacation and go camping and
there's a moderate kerfuffle in the group. And the distinct odor of
umbrage.
In the words of many barkeeps for a multitude of generations:
Gentlemen, PLEASE!
I'll paraphrase a point I've made before - in the
that if we feel the urge to have a helmet discussion, it needs to be a
new one.
A new discussion.
A new way of looking at the subject.
And I'm not in any way sure that can actually occur.
I've been bumping around the interwebs since dial-up days, and have seen
only a few topics
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