Damn, Bill! That's going to be a dream bike. Maybe you've already covered
this and I missed it, but I'm curious whether you went with a threaded or
threadless fork?
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That’s going to be quite a bike. It’s almost exactly what I would ask for
if I had the dough. I’m excited, and it’s not even my bike!
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On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 11:15:17 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
> John
>
> I will definitely run my current Roadeo wheelsets. 27mm
gt;>> making a decision based only on aesthetics seems counter to how
>>>>>> Rivendell
>>>>>> normally does things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 11:48:38 AM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:
>>>>>>
022 at 12:46:12 AM UTC-5 Eamon Nordquist wrote:
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>> I saw today the announcement that the new Roadinis are niw designed for
>> R559 brakes and will easily clear 42 mm tires. Good news, as far as I’m
>> concerned! The only thing I am slightly sad about is that they aren’t
>
I saw today the announcement that the new Roadinis are niw designed for
R559 brakes and will easily clear 42 mm tires. Good news, as far as I’m
concerned! The only thing I am slightly sad about is that they aren’t
coming in grilver, which is THE color for the Roadini, in my opinion. That
may
>
> I'm open to offers if someone wants the bike without the wheels/lights and
> racks but as you can see I'm having a hard time pricing the bundles
> myself.
>
> I hope that's understandable.
>
> Max
>
> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 12:58:02 AM UTC-4 Eamon No
How much for frame and fork, or same plus drivetrain/brakes/bars?
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On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 1:10:49 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
> I have someone interested in the wheels, racks and lights... anyone
> interested in the frame + drivetrain and maybe brakes + handlebars?
> Max
>
> On
My idea of a dream semi-custom Roadeo would be pretty much the same - canti
brakes and the fender/tire clearance of a Sam or Homer. Then it could
always have 38mm tires, whether it had fenders on or not. Roadeos are
already kind of a dream bike though… ;)
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That's officially/unofficially known as Category 6 racing! :)
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On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 2:30:04 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Doug, this is my favorite part:
>
> "When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and smile at him
> so he won’t know I am actually about
Okay, I just received mine. I am between 5’11” and 6’, 140lbs, and normally
wear a medium. I don’t like baggy clothes, but per Riv’s recommendation
(and picture of Will wearing one), I sized up to a large. The fit is
perfect for wearing on a bike. The ribs keep it fitted, but the sleeves and
I thought the MIT Homers use a 27.2 seatpost. I could be wrong - the
description doesn’t say, as far as I can tell.
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On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 11:30:35 AM UTC-8 Mark Roland wrote:
> And you could discuss that bike on the SOB* list!
>
> *Surly Owners Bunch
>
> On Friday,
I went with their recommendation to size up one size, but am worried it
will be too big. I don’t like baggy clothing, but they made it sound like
ordering your normal size would be too small.
Hmmm...
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On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 11:24:14 AM UTC-8 Mark Roland wrote:
> I'm 5'
I think I am done dealing with this new format. It's too difficult and
annoying for me to read. Later, folks!
Eamon
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 3:05:03 PM UTC-8 Eamon Nordquist wrote:
> Same here. It’s unusable on my iPhone.
>
> Eamon
> Seattle
>
> On Tuesday, Novembe
Have you any time idea how they hold up in the rain?
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On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 7:44:08 AM UTC-8 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey everyone!
> I've brought these up in another thread, but thought I'd share again for
> the good of the group.
>
> Raber Gloves are made in
Same here. It’s unusable on my iPhone.
Eamon
Seattle
On Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 8:40:34 PM UTC-8 Nick Payne wrote:
> Switch back to classic view has disappeared from my settings. Looks like
> it's history.
>
> On Wednesday, 11 November 2020 at 12:21:19 pm UTC+11 Ian A wrote:
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>> I'm
I’m curious what decaleur you’re using. Does it mount directly to the stem, or
sandwiched into the stack at the top of the headset?
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Depends on the era of Coleman. My older Coleman stove and lantern are (and
always were) a much less blue shade of green than newer ones.
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That’s a great looking bike! Sorry, Clem(entine), there’s a new sheriff in
town, Raspberry Sparkle. I expect you’re going to really love that sweet ride.
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Bill said:
“Their announcement makes me more likely to spend more of my money at Rivendell
Bicycle Works.”
I agree.
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Is the Roadini discontinued, and the Charlie H Gallop it’s replacement? If so,
I guess I understand why they may have chosen to go with caliper brakes over
canti/v-brakes. I suppose I’m not 100% against the change. It is an interesting
bike either way.
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Dang, I really wanted to get one of these, and hoped to be gainfully employed
again by the time they are out. I’m no really interested anymore if it’s going
to be made for long reach calipers. I don’t understand that change, but wish
them well. Being able to run cantis was what was sealing the
Is that little rack the Dia Compe one? I have a bike with the e? I have a bike
with the Dia Compe 610 brakes and thought about it as a headlight mount and a
place to stow a raincoat or something, but I worry about stressing the brake
bolt.
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The IRD triple is great too.
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I love that silver, although it’s partly because it reminds me of the early
80’s Treks, with their great Imron paint jobs. Mostly, I am just really loving
that bike. I have to stop looking at it, as I currently have no job :( and the
pandemic is going to make it harder to get one, so the last
I love it. I’m not sure what size tires are on that, but they look pretty fat,
and there still appears to be plenty of room for fenders. It looks like it
would make a nice light all road bike. I agree with Bill’s Roadini comparison.
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My Paselas in 26x1.75 (both wire and folding) have been right at 42mm on Rhyno
Lites.
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With the chain stays on the Appa, it may not fit with both wheels on, based on
what I can fit in my Hyundai Accent hatchback (a bike with 46cm chainstays is
about max with the back wheel still on). If you don’t have fenders, you’re
probably good.
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Oh man, I would love that bike, and it’s local too. Too bad I don’t have a job!
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Getting back to the original topic, what is the old color being brought back
for the new batch if Hillbornes? I would guess by the wording that it’s not a
color that was previously used for Hillbornes. There’s been some nice greens in
the past - as dark one that some Simple Ones had. That would
Clayton, I'd probably need the zero offset stem to fit noodles on the
current 59 Atlantis. Obviously, the 70 degree head angle can get the bars a
lot closer, but only by having the bars much higher than I want). Yes, it
could be done for me, but only just. The 55 Atlantis, with its 59cm top
Clayton, most people I know, if changing from drops to upright bars on the same
bike, would use a longer stem for the uprights. That’s not an emotional
decision. For myself, if on a 59 Atlantis with its 64cm top tube, I’m not
running anything but upright bars on it. I bet it’s great too, but
To each their own, but if that is “making drop bars work”, it’s not for me. I’m
not afraid of short stems either. But, hey, it’s all about what works for each
individual. I just think the new longer bikes are designed for swept back bars,
and if you are near the bottom end of the pbh range for
The newest MIT Atlantis models do seem to have gotten even longer than the
first round. I personally wouldn’t be able to fit dropbars to one without it
going a size too small, and having way more stem and seat post than I would be
happy with (short stem notwithstanding). I do hope the new
Good price for a nice bike. It's definitely too big for me, but based on the
saddle height in that picture, it doesn't look to big for you. Obviously, you
know better than me if it doesn't fit, but out of curiosity, what about feels
too big? Not enough standoff height?
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Here in Seattle, I'm out and about on my bike, but wouldn't ride in close
quarters. As to whether warmer temperatures will cause this virus to go away
for now, we do not yet know. One thing we DO know is it is currently spreading
in Singapore and Australia, so that could mean it's not going
If I had a Homer, I wouldn’t hesitate to use it for 1-2 night camping trips
and/or gravel rides. I think that falls right in with the “country bike”
description. A Sam is probably capable of heavier loads, but I think they’re
probably two sides of the same coin.
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That bike is the business. Love it with the Rene Herse tires and crank. Only
thing I’d add if it was mine is a dynohub. I can’t afford any bike right now,
but that’s a good price for a Mark Nobilette made bike.
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There is a point at which a bike that is long enough that it becomes a
specialty bike similar to a tandem or a long tail cargo bike. Very useful but
at the same time limited. If a bike is difficult to park in places I need to
park it, or is too long for my car or public transportation, then
Going from 700c (622) down to 650b (584) would require getting a framebuilder
to move the canti brake posts down. The existing brake posts would be too high
to reach the rims. Given similar width tires, you would gain a 19mm drop in the
height of the bike.
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Another quote from Grant’s reddit ama:
“The next one is Charlie H. Gallop, and it's a high-clearance, v-braked roadish
bike that'll fit to 50mm.”
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Yeah I have both, and I think the original Silvers are the best choice for the
downtube. I'm sure the 2's would work fine, but they seem intended as thumb or
bar and shifters.
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Matt said, "So what should I believe?"
Believe it all. There just isn't one answer that fits everyone's situation.
Yes, someone has fit 38's in a Roadini, despite Rivendell recommending 35mm
as the max. That doesn't mean Rivendell was too conservative, it just means
someone was willing to fit a
This is the root of why I can’t have a long chainstay Rivendell bike. Without
getting a much larger vehicle with much worse fuel economy, I cannot ever
transport a bike that long (especially with fenders). I have an 89cm pbh, so
I’m definitely in the large size range. A 59 Clem is not feasible
My ‘83 Trek is theoretically the same brake reach as a Roadini, and I ran
Tektro 539’s for a while. 35mm Paselas on CR18 rims were very tight for me
without those brakes. Closer than I was comfortable with, while the original
single pivot Dia Compes fit no problem, and probably could have taken
If it does fit, it’s likely to have the best clearance with a centerpull brake
like the Dia Compe 610 or one of the Pauls. I have seen someone fit
Compass/Rene Herse 38’s, but it was very tight. I know they fit 35’s without
fenders, as does my similar brake reach ‘83 Trek. I suspect to some
Oh man, that’s my size! Unfortunately, I’m not working right now, so good deal
or not, no bike buying for me.
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I love the top tube panniers, and I think my top tube is long enough to keep my
knees away from them, but I wonder how much they would mess with my downtube
shifters. Downtube shifters were the norm for derailleur equipped bikes when
those were designed, so maybe I should just get out a tape
Thanks, Will!
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I'll be curious to hear how you Kucharik fits. It's just about impossible to
find a picture of one actually on somebody. I fear they might be too baggy for
my bony slim body, but would love to be wrong.
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If you're in Ballard, I'd just go to Free Range in Fremont. They're super
close to you, and were at one time a Rivendell dealer. They are also super
nice people there, and definitely won't mock you. No "bike shop dude"
mentality there - in fact it's a woman owned business.
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I would build up the MIT one as an old school style MTB with Wavie or
Bullmoose bars, and the Waterford as a drop bar all-rounder. Unless you
can't afford to keep both, I bet you wouldn't regret it!
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> I've
I second both Back Alley and Free Range. I also recommend Counterbalance (along
Burke Gilman near U-village). Recycled Cycles in the U-district has good used
parts bind to scavenge.
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I am currently running a pair of R539 brakes on my '83 Trek, and at least
in the front, they are the limiting factor in fender/tire clearance. Dia
Compe 610's offer several millimeters of additional clearance over the
539's. I think if you want maximize clearance with that kind of brake
reach,
Looks great. Based on my 89 pbh, it looks like it would be just my size. :)
Roadeos and "not Legolas" customs are my dream bikes.
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I wonder if they are actually any wider than a 48cm Noodle. They state 50cm
c-t-c at the ends. Noodles are 48cm c-t-c at the lever clamps - with the 4
degree flare, they must be close to 50cm at the ends. The other
measurements seem very close to the Noodle as well. I wonder if they aren't
If you mean the Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drops, the listed size is measured at the
ends, where the Noodle sizes reflect the width at the hoods. The RM-013
flares at the ends of the drops a little more. I think a 48cm Noodle is
actually 48cm at the hoods, where the 52 RM-013 is closer to 46cm at the
Those look like the Compass 700c x 38mm Barlow Pass tires.
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That is a great looking bike. If I could afford a custom, it would be very
close to a Legolas.
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Thanks, Bill. I’ve been considering putting different bars on my ‘87 Trek
Antelope. I’ve been waffling between Bullmoose, Albastache, and Chocos. The
Chocos look good on a bike like that. The forward curves look like a nice spot
to grip.
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Bill, by chance were the bars on that Atlantis the new “wavie” bars they’ve
been working on? Atlantis looks good as a hilly bike.
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I’ll be getting a set!
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Nice! I didn't think I was a fan of that blue until seeing it in person several
months back when I stopped by Rivendell. It is really quite striking in person.
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I suspect that what brakes to see using will be part the deciding factor.
Centerpulls typically help maximize clearance at the crown and bridge as
compared to dual pivot sidepulls, but they're not all the same. How much space
do you have between the top of your 32mm tires and the brake?
Eamon
Bullmoose bars look proper on that bike. Looks like fun will be had!
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If you look at the geometry charts, Grant does use slightly different
geometry for different wheel sizes (especially noticeable is differing HTA
and fork rake). I think he tries to tune the handling feel nearly the same
regardless of wheel size. Obviously, acceleration might feel different with
Damn, that's a proper looking Atlantis. Luckily, it's too small for me!
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I don't have a Rambouillet, but I think your experience is about what to
expect from any bike designed for 57mm reach brakes. Under best case
scenario, you might fit 32mm tires and fenders, but clearance will be
tight. I think the intention is for 28mm max tire size with fenders, and
35mm
I’ve never had more than 75psi in my Chinook Passes, but I only weigh 140
pounds. I have the extra light version, and am a little over 1000 miles in,
with no flats. I do find them noticeably nicer riding than the 28mm non-belted
Paselas they replaced, but not necessarily dramatically so. I
You can't go wrong with Compass Chinook Pass, or Gravelking 28's. Schwalbe
probably has something comparable.
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Yes, Doug, I only meant that this discussion group is not a direct line to RBW,
and that any message to them should go directly to them. They obviously read
SOME posts here, but they don’t host or moderate this group.
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Personally, I would consider the extra clearance a plus. That's commonly a spot
where fender clearance is reduced by brake interference. I understand not
wanting that if you don't plan on ever fendering the bike, or don't want to
maximize tire size, but I'd personally only consider it a problem
John, please do post some pictures when your Greenspot arrives.
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Aha! I guess I always think about buying brakes as a pair (front and rear),
but the original post did specify best fork crown clearance, so maybe the
search is just for a single brake.
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> Right now (Sunday 9/16 3:47pm ET)
Eamon, that's why I said "Used..." :)
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>> Paul's are a lot more than $100...
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Paul's are a lot more than $100...
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It doesn't really strike me as a "step through" - it's just a curvy/droopy
dropped top tube that gives more standover clearance. As said earlier, a bit
like a Jones spacecraft in that regard. Either way, I love it.
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Centerpulls are going to be your best bet as far as minimizing brake
interference with fork crown clearance. I think you'd have to go used to find a
set under $100, although the new Dia Compe dc610's are worth it.
I currently run Tektro r539's on my '83 Trek 520, and they DO reduce my
I would suspect that with the huge frame sizes he rode, Jobst wouldn’t have
likely ever chosen 650b for himself, regardless of tire size. I guess we can’t
ask him anymore to know for sure .
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I did notice bison could be found in there, and wondered if it was indeed part
if the name. Seems appropriate fir a mountain bike.
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The Jones LWB shows a long wheelbase can be successfuly used on a mountain
bike. I bet it will at least be long in the rear center - I’m curious what the
front end geometry will be like. I would bet that Grant will want to balance
the stability and “in the bike” feeling of a longer rear with
Looks like it’s going to be a cool bike :) The tubular fork crown reminds me of
a fancier version on some old Raleigh fork crowns.
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Looks properly TUFF and wide!
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I would think Choco or Albatross bars would work great on a Clem. Perhaps
the combination of how high and far back the Boscos come could be why
you're feeling they aren't wide enough? I would think a bar that got a
little closer to the stem would feel better.
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Not to change the subject, but have you ever posted pictures of your Rivendell
Mountain? They seem to be rare beasts, and I've only ever seen a few pictures
before.
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Looks great to me. Love it!
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Seconding this. I've used CR18's (and previously Sun M13's as well) for
years. Most tires have been no problem, although some were a little tight
with cloth rim tape. Switch to something thinner like tubeless tape and you
shouldn't have a problem.
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Similar feelings here. I also had a set mounted on VO Porteur bars. I found
that if you grabbed the curved end portion hard in an emergency braking
situation, the levers could rotate on the bars, causing the lever to bottom
out against the bars. This led to a very scary near crash for me. I
I wonder if a it's a repaint with the correct decals applied...
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I'd say probably EVERY Rivendell bike, with the exception of maybe the
Roadeo, has longer chainstays than the Elephant NFE. The NFE has 43.5cm
stays in all sizes. With the NFE's low trail geometry, every Riv is going
to feel quite a bit different, not just the new long chainstay models (not
a
I'd say probably EVERY Rivendell bike, with the exception of maybe the
Roadeo, has longer chainstays than the Elephant NFE. The NFE has 43.5cm
stays in all sizes. With its low trail geometry, every Riv is going to feel
quite a bit different, regardless of chainstay length.
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That is a great color green! What a good looking bike - not as adorable as
I'm sure your new baby will be, but still...!
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I just saw the samples in person. I was killing time waiting for a flight back
to Seattle this evening, and took BART out to RBW, since I wanted to pickup
some new Dia Compe 610’s.
Will showed me the new Taiwan Homers, and they look great! A little more
upslope, and longer, but proportional to
Looking good. I'm hoping to visit Rivendell soon, and think I'm going to pickup
a set myself. I'm going to put them on my '83 Trek 520. I've had my old 610's
in there in the past, but like how much nicer the new ones look, and also like
the idea of smoother lighter action.
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No need to be sorry - nobody claimed a HiteRite is everything a modern
dropper is. I just said I think they work better than some might give them
credit for, and I don't think anyone else said or implied much different.
Happily use your dropper judgement free - I bet their fun to use!
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Your Bombadil looks really good! I am generally not super big on that light
silvery blue color, but the contrasting dark blue heartburn wins me over. I
would take one like that in a heartbeat. It's funny how such a small detail can
change your while impression of something.
Eamon
Seattle
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Hite Rites are kind of awesome low tech wonders. Yeah, modern droppers have
more functionality, but Hite Rites work better than I bet a lot of people would
expect.
Eamon
Seattle
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Damn, that's a good looking bike!
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I don't have one, so can only speculate, but Sam Hillbornes are supposedly
somewhere in between the Homer and the Atlantis on the stoutness scale. Now
that they're offered with canti/V brake posts, they supposedly clear 48mm
tires too. They also build up great as touring, trail, or road bikes.
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