[RBW] Re: FS 48 Sam Hillborne $2400 OBO plus shipping

[Jonathan D.]

Bump and dropped to $2400

On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 10:14:52 AM UTC-7 Jonathan D. wrote:

> BUMP with price reduction and a couple new photos. $2600 plus shipping. 
>
> Standover is 28.5 inches. This is as small as I think Riv's are made.
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-7 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> I am selling for my ex-wife a 48 mm Sam Hillborne. I purchased the frame 
>> and built it up at a local shop. The bike has hardly been ridden since It 
>> was built up. I am happy to share details and take any additional photos. I 
>> plan to keep the rack and can include the basket if it fits in the box. 
>> Rich built wheels and dynamo hub but don't currently have a light on it. I 
>> can see if I have one to include. Bike is in PDX.
>>
>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0Z5aVbMKvfjLe
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS 48 Sam Hillborne $3000 OBO plus shipping

[Jonathan D.]

BUMP with price reduction and a couple new photos. $2600 plus shipping. 

Standover is 28.5 inches. This is as small as I think Riv's are made.

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-7 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I am selling for my ex-wife a 48 mm Sam Hillborne. I purchased the frame 
> and built it up at a local shop. The bike has hardly been ridden since It 
> was built up. I am happy to share details and take any additional photos. I 
> plan to keep the rack and can include the basket if it fits in the box. 
> Rich built wheels and dynamo hub but don't currently have a light on it. I 
> can see if I have one to include. Bike is in PDX.
>
> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0Z5aVbMKvfjLe
>

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[RBW] FS 48 Sam Hillborne $3000 OBO plus shipping

[Jonathan D.]

I am selling for my ex-wife a 48 mm Sam Hillborne. I purchased the frame 
and built it up at a local shop. The bike has hardly been ridden since It 
was built up. I am happy to share details and take any additional photos. I 
plan to keep the rack and can include the basket if it fits in the box. 
Rich built wheels and dynamo hub but don't currently have a light on it. I 
can see if I have one to include. Bike is in PDX.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0Z5aVbMKvfjLe

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[RBW] FS: 64cm Rivendell Atlantis

[Jonathan Thomas]

Trying this again with a link and better pictures. 

Apologies for multiple post.

sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-fs-64cm-rivendell/7738102296.html

Jonathan

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

[Jonathan Thomas]

This is my bike, I put it on marketplace as well. Not to familiar with using this message board to display pics, so fb was easier to use. Jonathan ThomasOn Apr 15, 2024, at 12:14 PM, vernon brooks  wrote:64cm Atlantis 2 for sale on Facebook marketplace in San Francisco for 3k.On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 9:55 AM JAS <swanson.jo...@gmail.com> wrote:Roadini, orange, 61cm, $2500Port Orchard, WAhttps://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bik/d/south-colby-rivendell-roadini-61cm/7730137923.html On Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 11:40:56 AM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote:Gone! Its orange, it even sells fast.Mike SLO CA On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 7:24:20 AM UTC-7 chefd...@gmail.com wrote:check out this Riv adjacent Ebisu in Davis, CA https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1045901090509133/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3Ad855af6f-dc71-4c85-b170-807584484136On Saturday, March 30, 2024 at 3:16:26 PM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:60cm Homerhttps://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-homer-hilson/7732342937.htmlOn Friday, March 29, 2024 at 7:35:42 PM UTC-4 Danny wrote:That Heron was just posted to the Riv buy/sell/trade Facebook group. $4000 shipped or less for local pick-up in Ann Arbor.On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 8:43:22 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:Your patience continues to earn you money.  Now the price is down to $6000.  Wait until September and you'll get paid to take it.  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Friday, March 15, 2024 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:I love a bargain On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 7:40:48 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:It's on special offer now to those of us who are watching it.  Now avaiable for the low low price of $6250.  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 9:59:37 AM UTC-7 LBleriot wrote:Yikes!  I would love to add a Heron Touring to go with my Road, but this Ebay listing is kind of a silly way to solicit real offers.On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 12:26:30 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:Obviously the Chris King Headset Composite Index has gone through the roof.On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 6:37 PM Josh C <getjosh...@gmail.com> wrote:wowOn Monday, March 11, 2024 at 3:33:10 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:$7000  In a word, HA!  At least they are taking offers...  BL in ECOn Monday, March 11, 2024 at 12:28:26 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:Heron Touring 55cm$7000Walled Lake, MichiganRare rare rare parts like Titanium Chris King headset, Nitto racks, and full Campagnolo...https://www.ebay.com/itm/176156925449?itmmeta=01HRQFP37XW2ZW9W57MX91XV8H=item2903c55e09:g:1-QAAOSwlT9le1Vr=enc%3AAQAI4A7jbJYmJLb0qhGidg8sdvoie5vcUpIvYrS%2BSMvrLJLvPiSDvKpjMsaHlJTCd1soc%2BS7lyI3DhBCJIMPjYbsw%2Bz2jx3FF1A8HaYOsrSGCGDojnJMNqrJC9m0GJvRkaVV7ejS4wIjNmkGPkl5PLpOEQlbXY8ub8%2FhPJelndP333HN%2B5YXfIBsGZBcK%2BedK1MLmQWY7kHqX4c4AzxDVzG%2B1rJVrllsTotNUBw2pKEhm%2BQDzzEV4sTfCquOQ0jScQhSElZQaXk3KjAGccNhRMGhT54kCgPjyFiebEPpJtvqbTfN%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4C02O_FYwOn Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 5:36:38 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:Roadini57cm2000Emeryville, CAhttps://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/emeryville-rivendell-leo-roadini/7720529232.html



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Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

['Jonathan Poor' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Curious, what is a "tubeless tubular"?  My tubulars (aka "sewups") have 
tubes. 

Jonathan



On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 11:22:54 PM UTC-5 Max S wrote:

> Ye!! We should start a separate thread of Rivendells rolling on 
> tubulars... 
>
> BTW, check out these babies 
> <https://us.challengetires.com/products?product_model_ids=55110,55010,55012,55176,55136,55084,55071,_region=233>...
>  
> 36 <https://us.challengetires.com/shop/products/strada-bianca-2/55014> 
> and 40 <https://us.challengetires.com/shop/products/strada-bianca-5/71439> 
> mm wide tubeless tubulars. Yes, you read that right. I happen to have a set 
> of the 36es, and lemme tell ya – the ride is amazing! 
>
> - Max "totally tubular, man!" in A2
>
> On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 6:07:20 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Max S said "Do eet! "
>>
>> I did not "Do eet! " 
>> I did not even do "eet!"
>> but I did do "it"
>>
>> I finally made an offer and got an all metal tubular wheel set on eBay 
>> that can go on my Rivendell Legolas.  It's another set of HED Ardennes 
>> wheels, which make them interchangeable with a few other bikes.  The wheel 
>> set comes with a set of cross knobbies, which need to be glued, or maybe 
>> I'll use some 30mm road tires that I've already got handy.  Max made me doo 
>> eeet.
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 5:54:54 PM UTC-8 Max S wrote:
>>
>>> Do eet! 
>>>
>>> - Max "Knock-knock... Hi! Have you heard the good news about carbon 
>>> tubulars?.." in A2
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 2:26:30 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a tubular wheel set for my Roadeo also.  We're a GANG
>>>>
>>>> BL in EC
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 11:15:09 AM UTC-8 cz...@sonic.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Max -
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are one of two people worldwide that run sew-ups on a Riv, I am 
>>>>> the other one. I had Rich build a set of wheels for sew-ups so I could 
>>>>> run 
>>>>> them on any of four Rivs (my wife would not tolerate 33mm tires on the 
>>>>> Hubbuhubbuh after riding 71mm tires).
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Corwin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 6:15:09 AM UTC-8 Max S wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *"My first thought when I saw your RIvendell was:*
>>>>>> *Off With 'is 'ead!!!*
>>>>>> *Pure blasphemy. I love it." *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, yes, thank you – shock and awe was part of the intent for this 
>>>>>> Halloween special "Iron Pumpkin" build  :-) 
>>>>>> BTW, those wheels are tubulars... I might be one of two people 
>>>>>> worldwide that run sew-up tires on a Riv?.. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Max "totally tubular" in A2
>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 6:25:59 AM UTC-5 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Max
>>>>>>> My first thought when I saw your RIvendell was:
>>>>>>> Off With 'is 'ead!!!
>>>>>>> Pure blasphemy. I love it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I reckon we can't complain -- they don't make SILVER carbon wheels 
>>>>>>> yet. You're forgiven.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [Extra blather: Personally, I can't get into single speed. I went as 
>>>>>>> far as not shifting for a week on my commute in order to see if I 
>>>>>>> wanted to 
>>>>>>> go SS for that purpose. 
>>>>>>> Can't do it. Even my snow bike has an IGH and I use the low and 
>>>>>>> middle gears every ride.]
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 6:50:06 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now *that's* got to be the most different, unique, idiosyncratic 
>>>>>>>> Rivendell build I've seen; kudos for doing things your way!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reminds me of a mountain bike I saw parked at my WDC apartment back 
>>>>>>>> about 1987 with (IIRC) Scott AT-4 bar

Re: [RBW] WTB: 54-58cm Joe Appaloosa

[Jonathan D.]

I have a 55 silver in portland that I am considering selling.

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 6:32:55 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> [image: 00c0c_YcPFVUefhs_0CI0pO_600x450.jpg]
>
> Rivendell Joe Appaloosa - bicycles - by owner - bike sale 
> 
> portland.craigslist.org 
> 
>
> 
>
>
> On Apr 19, 2023, at 6:23 PM, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>
> Would prefer a frameset but will consider a complete as well. 
>
> Thanks. 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

[Jonathan D.]

This is one of my favorite bikes. I am 6 ft, 85 PBH and also roads a 55 
Sam. This size fit me perfect. Hope someone buys it soon.

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:51:47 PM UTC-8 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Everyone! 
> This is still for sale. I've had some serious lookers, but no takers.
> $1,500 plus shipping?
> I need a new computer ;)
>
> Cheers!
> Ben
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 1:28:45 PM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Good to know, thanks!
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:59:44 AM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It wasn't possible to do get the bars on the stem with the stem on the 
>>> bike. Like an impossible puzzle. However, with both the stem and bars off 
>>> of the bike I was able to gently rotate the stem as I was feeding it onto 
>>> the handlebars. There was always one rotational point where the stem would 
>>> move on the bars with no forcing. Cheers!
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
 Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
 A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars 
 thru a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required an 
 open face stem due to the abrupt curves.
 Thanks,
 Alan in NYC

 On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
> sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat 
> tube) 
> up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think 
> Grant 
> was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
> post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
> and shapes of riders. 
>
> I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso for 
> my height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the need 
> for a custom for 20 years. 
>
> Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
> bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
> wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't 
> at 
> the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for my 
> Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. 
> Brands 
> made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
> choices.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
>> swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short legs 
>>  
>> ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up 
>> paint 
>> from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and 
>> it 
>> still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
>> appropriate wear. 
>>
>> The Rundown: 
>>
>>- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
>>- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
>>- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
>>- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
>>- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
>>- TRP RRL Brake Levers
>>- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto 
>>Noodle bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
>>- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I 
>>also have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
>>- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur 
>>hanger extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not 
>> quite as 
>>awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
>>- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will 
>>include.
>>
>>
>> $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, 
>> but I can ship to a loving home.
>>
>> Photos: 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680
>>
>>  
>> Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
>> The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The 
>> ride is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was 
>> able 
>> to make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Ben Adrian
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Roadini 54 $1400

[Jonathan D.]

I like the 38s a lot. I don't have caliper to measure but didn't have an 
issue on the rims. You can't go much wider with the tires though and the 
frame.

On the bars, with the mustache I would definitely go short stem. I think so 
much depends on body type am not sure I could say how it changes the bike. 
I'll add some new photos once the storm passes. 


On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 4:43:04 PM UTC-8 jamin orrall wrote:

> Don't want to thread hijack but I was wondering how those tires felt on 
> the narrow mavic rims? do they measure close to 38?  I have older open pros 
> and I am considering those tires, I think the rim width is similar.
>
> On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 4:52:12 PM UTC-7 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_3323.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> I am selling my 54 Roadini.  It was just built up and a great bike.  I 
>> just don't need it. I  would love to sell locally in Portland Oregon.  It 
>> has a different seat.  Might be open for a trade but not sure if I need 
>> another bike. I didn't tape the bars because if I keep it I'll switch the 
>> bars.
>>
>>
>> 2x9 setup 
>>
>> Sugino Crankset
>>
>> Dura-ace Rear Deraileur
>>
>> Sun Tour Front
>>
>> Dura Ace Bar end Shifters
>>
>> Nitro Stem 
>>
>> Origen Brakes
>>
>> Dura Ace Hubs with Magic Open Rims
>>
>> 38 Rene Herse/Compass Tires
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Roadini 54 $1400

[Jonathan D.]

I like the 38s a lot. I don't have caliper to measure but didn't have an 
issue on the rims. 


On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 4:43:04 PM UTC-8 jamin orrall wrote:

> Don't want to thread hijack but I was wondering how those tires felt on 
> the narrow mavic rims? do they measure close to 38?  I have older open pros 
> and I am considering those tires, I think the rim width is similar.
>
> On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 4:52:12 PM UTC-7 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_3323.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> I am selling my 54 Roadini.  It was just built up and a great bike.  I 
>> just don't need it. I  would love to sell locally in Portland Oregon.  It 
>> has a different seat.  Might be open for a trade but not sure if I need 
>> another bike. I didn't tape the bars because if I keep it I'll switch the 
>> bars.
>>
>>
>> 2x9 setup 
>>
>> Sugino Crankset
>>
>> Dura-ace Rear Deraileur
>>
>> Sun Tour Front
>>
>> Dura Ace Bar end Shifters
>>
>> Nitro Stem 
>>
>> Origen Brakes
>>
>> Dura Ace Hubs with Magic Open Rims
>>
>> 38 Rene Herse/Compass Tires
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Roadini 54 $1400

[Jonathan D.]

Bump. It does have drop bars.

On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 12:27:15 PM UTC-7 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I might try to switch it to drops this weekend or next.  I appreciate the 
> advice Bill.  The stem is also currently to long for the Albastasche.  
>
> A couple of questions that came up:
>
> The bike pictured currently has 38 mm Rene Here (Compass) tires.  I think 
> it could easily fit 33s with Fenders.
> My PBH is 85 and the bike fits well but on the small end for me.  My 58 
> Ram fits bigger.  
>
> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:40:07 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> It looks like the Roadini has TRP RRL brakelevers on it.  Setting up 
>> brake levers on Albastache (and similar) handlebars is a touch tricky, and 
>> 'ergonomic' brake levers like the RRLs are in a way worse for Albastache 
>> type bars, in my opinion.  They flare "out" on drop bars and make them 
>> easier to grab from a couple different positions on drop bars.  When you 
>> put them on Albastache bars, they now flare "up" which is weird on the 
>> wrists.  
>>
>> I use SRAM brake levers on Albastache bars, and on a whim, I set them up 
>> swapped.  Trade them left with right and now the lever blades flare "down" 
>> and it's a lot better grab.  Since the bars are not taped in the photos, 
>> I'd recommend your prospective buyer flip them.  If you want to do your 
>> buyer a favor and want to have a small project, try them swapped.  
>>
>> The place the cables exit the levers is now 'on top' which is a little 
>> unusual, but in my opinion that's fine.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 4:52:12 PM UTC-7 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_3323.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> I am selling my 54 Roadini.  It was just built up and a great bike.  I 
>>> just don't need it. I  would love to sell locally in Portland Oregon.  It 
>>> has a different seat.  Might be open for a trade but not sure if I need 
>>> another bike. I didn't tape the bars because if I keep it I'll switch the 
>>> bars.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2x9 setup 
>>>
>>> Sugino Crankset
>>>
>>> Dura-ace Rear Deraileur
>>>
>>> Sun Tour Front
>>>
>>> Dura Ace Bar end Shifters
>>>
>>> Nitro Stem 
>>>
>>> Origen Brakes
>>>
>>> Dura Ace Hubs with Magic Open Rims
>>>
>>> 38 Rene Herse/Compass Tires
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Roadini

[Jonathan D.]

I have a 54 for sale but it's complete. 

On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 6:32:43 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> Does anyone have a 54 cm Roadini they would like to sell? I'm thinking of 
> setting one up as a single speed.
> Doug
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Waterford Roadeo

[Jonathan D.]

This is an amazing and rare bike.  Just putting a plug in and Gabriel is 
great to work with on buying a bike. 

On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:46:16 AM UTC-8 Gabriel Bruguier wrote:

> Bump: will consider reasonable offers on complete bike.
>
> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 11:09:25 AM UTC-6 Gabriel Bruguier wrote:
>
>> Bump:  Price reduction to $3000, with split shipping costs.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 11:32:28 AM UTC-6 Gabriel Bruguier wrote:
>>
>>> Bump
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 3:52:48 PM UTC-6 Gabriel Bruguier wrote:
>>>
 Clearance with 38's is a little tight in the chainstays, but within the 
 still safe range.

 Martin, yes there a handful of us pedaling around Lincoln!  

 On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 10:58:40 AM UTC-6 bdcamp...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

>
> 33 w/ fenders.
> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 11:14:45 AM UTC-5 BobW wrote:
>
>> Nice looking Roadeo!   I thought the Roadeo maxed out at 33.3 width 
>> tires??  How did you manage to get 38's on there?   Are the clearances 
>> really tight??
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 13, 2022 at 8:07:33 PM UTC-5 Gabriel Bruguier 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Up for sale is my 59cm Roadeo, built by Waterford, with threaded 
>>> fork.  It is the Maroon colorway shown on the Riv product page 
>>>  (or very close to that 
>>> color).  This frame has mid-fork eyelets installed.  As far as I know, 
>>> I am 
>>> the third owner.  I bought it off a fellow RBWOB lister last winter, 
>>> rode 
>>> it over the spring and summer, but it has been stored in the garage 
>>> since 
>>> then.  I love the bike but I don't foresee as much use as I'd like, and 
>>> would rather send it on to a new home.
>>>
>>> Frame is in good used shape.  There are plenty of signs of beausage 
>>> on the paint, but no dents or rust.  I sprayed it with Boeshield before 
>>> building it up.  It has never been crashed to my knowledge.
>>>
>>> Here's Riv's geometry chart with a link to PBH sizing 
>>> recommendations. 
>>>   My PBH is 
>>> right around 85, and this size worked for me.
>>>
>>> Photos are here. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>>
>>> The build list is below.  The front der, wheels, brakes, brake 
>>> levers, and shifters were from a previous build, but are in good shape. 
>>>  
>>> Though there is some scraping on shifters and levers.  All other parts 
>>> were 
>>> bought new.
>>>
>>> I am asking $3500 for the complete bike, plus LBS packing fee, and 
>>> shipping to lower 48.  Located in Lincoln, NE.  I am not interested in 
>>> trades.  I might be open to parting it out, if there isn't interest in 
>>> the 
>>> complete.
>>>
>>> Please contact me off list with questions or offers.  Thank you for 
>>> reading,
>>> -Gabe
>>>
>>> Cockpit: 
>>> Nitto/Crust Shaka bars, 54cm
>>> Nitto/Crust stem (30 degree, 60mm)
>>> TRP RRL SL levers
>>> Microshift bar ends, 11 sp
>>> ESI bar tape
>>> Cane Creek 100 headset
>>>
>>> Drivetrain:
>>> Wheels: Velocity A23 rims, XT hubs, hand built at Monkey Wrench 
>>> Cyles 
>>> 
>>> Butted spokes, black hardware
>>> Compass Barlow Pass EL
>>> Tubes with Orange Seal sealant
>>> White Industries R30 double crankset (46tX36t)
>>> White Industries bottom bracket
>>> Simworks bubbly pedals
>>> Ultegra rear der (11 speed)
>>> 9 Sp XT cassette 11-32
>>> 105 front der
>>>
>>> Brakes:
>>> Paul Racer centerpulls
>>> Paul Funky Monkey cable stop
>>> Paul Moon units
>>>
>>> Saddle: Brooks C17 carved
>>> Seatpost: Nitto S65
>>>
>>> (Spurcycle bell in photos is not included) 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini heavy?

[Jonathan D.]

I agree with Bill's take but I often do.  I have the Roadini, Rambouillet 
and Roadeo.  All ride great.  The Roadeo is setup as a light road bike and 
built up differently so hard to compare.  The Roadini definitely reminds me 
of the Romulus in feel, but also built in a similar way.  On my Ram I can 
run 35 mm tires with fenders but haven't tried not he Roadini.  I would 
probably choose my Ram over the Roadini but love the classic lugs and 
orange.  I tried selling the Roadini but didn't put much effort into it, 
but only because all three is excessive. 

I also love my BMC Monstercross and run got the disc with 42 mm tires in 
pink. I wouldn't compare the bikes and I use them for different purposes 
but can't go wrong with any BMC or Rivendell.  The Model 0 BMC looks 
awesome.

On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 10:03:17 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Ezra asked:
>
> Have you been a Roadini owner? 
>
> *Yes, I have*
>
> Did the bike please you? 
>
> *Yes, it did.  I did my fastest ever 200k brevet on my Roadini.  *
>
> I've heard tell that Roadini's feel sluggish and heavy for road bikes. 
>
> *I've heard the same, but have not experienced that feeling myself, and 
> have not heard any individual articulate any objective physical 
> characteristic that says anything about the bike.  They can only describe 
> what they feel when they ride a particular build.  Are my builds better 
> than everybody else's builds?  Maybe, I don't know.  Am I more easy to 
> please, when cycling?  Probably.  I LOVE cycling.  The most 'boring' day on 
> the bike is better than most days off the bike.  Do I spend more time 
> searching for things to like, while others spend more time searching for 
> things not to like?  Maybe.  Do I spend more time "riding" and less time 
> "zipping about", "throwing the bike around", and such?  Perhaps.  I'm 
> certain some riders want their road bike to feel like a crit bike (or a 
> track bike) and that's very very cool.  Rivendells are objectively not like 
> crit bikes or track bikes.  *
>
> I've never owned a Riv but I'm interested in trying them out. I'd be 
> setting up the bike with Waive bars. 
>
> *Interesting.  I ran my Roadini with drops and then with Albastache bars.  
> I bet it would be fun with Wavie bars.  *
>
> *I have a huge stable of bikes, and I tend to appreciate each build for 
> exactly what it is, rather than handwring over the things it is not.  
> That's how I'm wired.  Other folks are wired differently.  Bike reviews all 
> read to me like personality tests.  People who diss a particular bike and 
> laud some other bike are telling me more about themselves than the 
> bicycles.  Since that's all you really have to go on, I think the best 
> thing is to figure out which "reviewer" has tastes and temperaments most 
> like you, and then bet on the likelihood that you'll like what they like.  
> Purely subjective reviews from strangers are not nothing, but they are also 
> not everything.  In my humble opinion.   *
>
> *Bill Lindsay*
> *El Cerrito, CA*
> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 11:44:32 AM UTC-8 Ezra wrote:
>
>> Greetings RBW Owners. My first post to the forum. 
>>
>> Have you been a Roadini owner? Did the bike please you? I've heard tell 
>> that Roadini's feel sluggish and heavy for road bikes. I've never owned a 
>> Riv but I'm interested in trying them out. I'd be setting up the bike with 
>> Waive bars. 
>>
>> I'd also be interested to know what size you are. I've also heard that 
>> Rivs tend to feel better on the larger side. No idea if it's true. 
>>
>> Thanks for indulging my questions. I always find buying bikes sight 
>> unseen difficult. 
>>
>> Ezra
>> Michigan 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Roadini 54 $1400

[Jonathan D.]

I might try to switch it to drops this weekend or next.  I appreciate the 
advice Bill.  The stem is also currently to long for the Albastasche.  

A couple of questions that came up:

The bike pictured currently has 38 mm Rene Here (Compass) tires.  I think 
it could easily fit 33s with Fenders.
My PBH is 85 and the bike fits well but on the small end for me.  My 58 Ram 
fits bigger.  

On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:40:07 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> It looks like the Roadini has TRP RRL brakelevers on it.  Setting up brake 
> levers on Albastache (and similar) handlebars is a touch tricky, and 
> 'ergonomic' brake levers like the RRLs are in a way worse for Albastache 
> type bars, in my opinion.  They flare "out" on drop bars and make them 
> easier to grab from a couple different positions on drop bars.  When you 
> put them on Albastache bars, they now flare "up" which is weird on the 
> wrists.  
>
> I use SRAM brake levers on Albastache bars, and on a whim, I set them up 
> swapped.  Trade them left with right and now the lever blades flare "down" 
> and it's a lot better grab.  Since the bars are not taped in the photos, 
> I'd recommend your prospective buyer flip them.  If you want to do your 
> buyer a favor and want to have a small project, try them swapped.  
>
> The place the cables exit the levers is now 'on top' which is a little 
> unusual, but in my opinion that's fine.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 4:52:12 PM UTC-7 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_3323.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> I am selling my 54 Roadini.  It was just built up and a great bike.  I 
>> just don't need it. I  would love to sell locally in Portland Oregon.  It 
>> has a different seat.  Might be open for a trade but not sure if I need 
>> another bike. I didn't tape the bars because if I keep it I'll switch the 
>> bars.
>>
>>
>> 2x9 setup 
>>
>> Sugino Crankset
>>
>> Dura-ace Rear Deraileur
>>
>> Sun Tour Front
>>
>> Dura Ace Bar end Shifters
>>
>> Nitro Stem 
>>
>> Origen Brakes
>>
>> Dura Ace Hubs with Magic Open Rims
>>
>> 38 Rene Herse/Compass Tires
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] ISO 54cm Homer, Romulus...?

[Jonathan D.]

Good point. I had a 56/57 Rom and it fits similar and my 58 Ram fits bigger.

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 10:51:26 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> A 54 Roadini is going to fit larger than a 54 Romulus. A 54 
> Rambouillet/Romulus fits me fine but I would get a 50 Roadini.  A 54 would 
> be way too big.
>
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 1:38:24 PM UTC-4 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> The Portland one is mine.  Pretty much a Rom with a nice build.
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 8:58:12 AM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Not quite what you asked, but here are two options:
>>>
>>>
>>> A. Homer Hilsen
>>> 61cm
>>>
>>> https://asheville.craigslist.org/bik/d/saluda-rivendell-bicycle-homer-hilsen/7356711404.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Roadini
>>> 54cm
>>>
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-roadini-54-cm/7384682045.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 28, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Igor  wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone have one of the above?
>>> I may get one of the new Homer that are due sometime later this 
>>> fall..but I prefer the older kind
>>>
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Re: [RBW] ISO 54cm Homer, Romulus...?

[Jonathan D.]

The Portland one is mine.  Pretty much a Rom with a nice build.

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 8:58:12 AM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Not quite what you asked, but here are two options:
>
>
> A. Homer Hilsen
> 61cm
>
> https://asheville.craigslist.org/bik/d/saluda-rivendell-bicycle-homer-hilsen/7356711404.html
>
>
> Roadini
> 54cm
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-roadini-54-cm/7384682045.html
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 28, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Igor  wrote:
>
> Anyone have one of the above?
> I may get one of the new Homer that are due sometime later this fall..but 
> I prefer the older kind
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[RBW] Re: FS: Roadini 54 $1400

[Jonathan D.]

Bumping.  $1300. Also selling a Black Mountain Cycles 53 cm and Soma Grand 
Randonneur 59cm.  Let me know if you are interested.  Not Rivendell bikes 
but some commonalities.  I live in Portland and would love to sell locally.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0Z55Z2WMId7r8

On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 4:52:12 PM UTC-7 Jonathan D. wrote:

> [image: IMG_3323.jpeg]
>
>
> I am selling my 54 Roadini.  It was just built up and a great bike.  I 
> just don't need it. I  would love to sell locally in Portland Oregon.  It 
> has a different seat.  Might be open for a trade but not sure if I need 
> another bike. I didn't tape the bars because if I keep it I'll switch the 
> bars.
>
>
> 2x9 setup 
>
> Sugino Crankset
>
> Dura-ace Rear Deraileur
>
> Sun Tour Front
>
> Dura Ace Bar end Shifters
>
> Nitro Stem 
>
> Origen Brakes
>
> Dura Ace Hubs with Magic Open Rims
>
> 38 Rene Herse/Compass Tires
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Jonathan D.]

Roadini is mine.  I thought I would see if I found a local buyer first and 
flexible on price.  Happy to ship to an RBW list member.

On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 11:15:58 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> That is a great price on the Bombadil!
>
> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 1:49:56 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Bombadil
>> 52cm
>> $1800
>> Bend, OR
>>
>> https://bend.craigslist.org/bik/d/sisters-rivendell-bombadil-all-purpose/7379058210.html
>>
>>
>> Roadini
>> 54cm
>> $1750
>> Portland, OR
>>
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-roadini-54-cm/7379028891.html
>
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

['Jonathan Poor' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I put my cursor on the text of the top message, and hit the "end" key. 
Zooms right to the bottom.

On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 10:44:28 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:

> Not a dumb question at all.  I was wondering the same thing.  Anybody have 
> a more helpful answer?  Is there a setting that allows one to read the 
> newest posts first?
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 4:06:27 PM UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:
>
>> I read it in email and Bob is my Uncle...
>>
>> EricF
>> Vancouver on android and Firefox
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 15:46 max.c@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dumb question -- is there any way to make this thread display the newest 
>>> posts at the top? I keep having to scroll through 100+ posts...sorry if I'm 
>>> missing it!
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[RBW] WTT/WTB Rene Herse Barlow Pass for Bon John

[Jonathan D.]

I am looking for a Rene Herse Bon John tire.  Would take a set but only 
need one.  I have a single Rene Herse Barlow Pass tire that is used but 
great shape that I would trade or sell. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet tire clearance

[Jonathan D.]

I can run 38s, and I am running 35s with fenders, but had help to make it 
fit. 33s were no problem with fenders.  I have an orange Ram.

On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 12:08:44 PM UTC-7 Kieran J wrote:

> I also had an orange Ram and the max tire clearance under Tektro R539 
> brakes was about 37mm. Slightly less vertical clearance in the back versus 
> the front. 
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 9:40:42 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> On my blue Ram, 32s (Kojak 1.35s which may have measured 31mm on Open 
>> Pros) fit under SKS fenders with some squeezing at seatstay bridge, but 
>> acceptable. I think that fenders take up about 5mm of tire size but I'd 
>> guess that 37-38 might be the max.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 9:50 AM George Schick  wrote:
>>
>>> It's not exactly clear whether you want to run the fatter tires with or 
>>> without fenders.  FWIW, I have a Ram of the same exact time period as yours 
>>> and I'm running 32mm Panaracers with fenders.  I'd prefer to run 35's, but 
>>> there's no way they'd fit under the fenders.  Without fenders I'm guessing 
>>> that you could go up to 37/38's, but it might be tight.  That frame was 
>>> built with side-pulls as the intended brake, therefore the brake bridge on 
>>> the rear is a little further down than other models.  And I agree, of all 
>>> the bikes I've owned over the past 45+ years of "serious" cycling the Ram 
>>> is the best riding of the bunch.  Wish I would have had it all along.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 10:22:52 AM UTC-5 erics...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I’m the original owner of a 2003 orange Rambouillet. It has always worn 
 Roly Poly tires, but my stock has ran out.  It hasn’t worn fenders in over 
 a decade, and I want to run some bigger tires. I threw my wife’s 700x37 
 WTB 
 All Terrains on it and they cleared. I just want to run fatter road tires 
 on it. What can reliably fit 700x38 or 40s in one of the various Panaracer 
 makes?


 FWIW This bike rides like a silky dream. Ive went through 30+ other 
 bikes over the years, and this one remains. It is a beauty. 


 Regards,

 Eric 

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Jonathan D.]

SOLD

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 8:55:59 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I added some more photos and details of the bike.  There are some small 
> scratches that I tried to capture.  I would say the bike looks in very good 
> shape but it isn't pristine.  Has the type of scratches, dirt you would 
> expect from a very well maintained bike used mostly on roads. 
>
> The picture of the saddle height is at 72 in one pic, at the request of 
> someone on the list.  I forgot to measure standover but I would expect 
> 81-82 cm.  I'll drop the asking price to $2000.  If I don't get anyone that 
> is interesting in a couple of weeks I'll think about selling a partial 
> build.
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:51:13 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Adding my 2 cents to Bill's, offers - whether complete or any other 
>> version - should be addressed privately to the seller. 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:53:49 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
>>> wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee 
>>> that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
>>> accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
>>> $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
>>> offer.  
>>>
>>> Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got 
>>> some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
>>> frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
>>> where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
>>> got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  
>>>
>>> I could use the 32F front rack...
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
>>>> interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
>>>> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
>>>> interested if you consider that route. 
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I 
>>>>>> am flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey Jonathan,
>>>>>>>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
>>>>>>>> pickup is possible?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't 
>>>>>>>>> find the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I 
>>>>>>>>> think it 
>>>>>>>>> is similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want 
>>>>>>>>> to say 
>>>>>>>>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 
>>>>>>>>> 45 for 
>>>>>>>>> the Toyo.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
>>>>>>>>> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and 
>>>>>>>>> I 
>>>>>>>>> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for 
>>>>>>>>> it, 
>>>>&

[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Jonathan D.]

I added some more photos and details of the bike.  There are some small 
scratches that I tried to capture.  I would say the bike looks in very good 
shape but it isn't pristine.  Has the type of scratches, dirt you would 
expect from a very well maintained bike used mostly on roads. 

The picture of the saddle height is at 72 in one pic, at the request of 
someone on the list.  I forgot to measure standover but I would expect 
81-82 cm.  I'll drop the asking price to $2000.  If I don't get anyone that 
is interesting in a couple of weeks I'll think about selling a partial 
build.

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:51:13 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Adding my 2 cents to Bill's, offers - whether complete or any other 
> version - should be addressed privately to the seller. 
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:53:49 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
>> wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee 
>> that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
>> accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
>> $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
>> offer.  
>>
>> Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got 
>> some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
>> frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
>> where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
>> got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  
>>
>> I could use the 32F front rack...
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
>>> interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
>>> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
>>> interested if you consider that route. 
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
>>>> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bump.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I 
>>>>> am flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Jonathan,
>>>>>>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
>>>>>>> pickup is possible?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find 
>>>>>>>> the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it 
>>>>>>>> is 
>>>>>>>> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to 
>>>>>>>> say 
>>>>>>>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 
>>>>>>>> 45 for 
>>>>>>>> the Toyo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
>>>>>>>> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and 
>>>>>>>> I 
>>>>>>>> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, 
>>>>>>>> mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
>>>>>>>> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
>>>>>>>> look, 
>>>>>>>> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
>>>>>>

[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Jonathan D.]

Bill is right.  The bike looks like it was recently built up before I 
bought it so it is great shape but I could be convinced to part it out.  It 
really just depends on price.  I don't want to spend a lot of time selling 
individual parts.  The build is very Rivendell, and in great shape.  

Bill,

I might sell the front rack. I'll email you if I do. I just need to see the 
other rack options I have for a bike.

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:44:14 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Thanks Bill, but I’m interested in what I stated I was interested in. I’m 
> leaving it up to OP to let me know if they’d even consider it, then we can 
> discuss price if so. 
>
> Joe
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:53:49 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
>> wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee 
>> that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
>> accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
>> $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
>> offer.  
>>
>> Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got 
>> some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
>> frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
>> where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
>> got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  
>>
>> I could use the 32F front rack...
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
>>> interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
>>> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
>>> interested if you consider that route. 
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
>>>> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bump.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I 
>>>>> am flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Jonathan,
>>>>>>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
>>>>>>> pickup is possible?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find 
>>>>>>>> the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it 
>>>>>>>> is 
>>>>>>>> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to 
>>>>>>>> say 
>>>>>>>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 
>>>>>>>> 45 for 
>>>>>>>> the Toyo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
>>>>>>>> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and 
>>>>>>>> I 
>>>>>>>> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, 
>>>>>>>> mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
>>>>>>>> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
>>>>>>>> look, 
>>>>>>>> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
>>>>>>>> Sugino 
>>>>>>>> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear deraill

[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Jonathan D.]

BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> Bump.
>
> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I am 
> flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Jonathan,
>>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
>>> pickup is possible?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sean
>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find the 
>>>> MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it is 
>>>> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
>>>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 
>>>> for 
>>>> the Toyo.
>>>>
>>>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I traded 
>>>> for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I bought 
>>>> from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, mostly 
>>>> because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>>>
>>>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
>>>> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can look, 
>>>> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
>>>> Sugino 
>>>> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm 
>>>> tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
>>>> Hubs. 
>>>> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the top 
>>>> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>>>>
>>>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>>>>
>>>> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to price. 
>>>>  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price.  I don't 
>>>> want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I have 
>>>> enough parts.
>>>>
>>>> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
>>>> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
>>>>> questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range & 
>>>>> how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis 
>>>>> has 
>>>>> evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length 
>>>>> may 
>>>>> be helpful.  
>>>>>
>>>>> Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be 
>>>>> ridden.  
>>>>>
>>>>> dougP
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This 
>>>>>> is a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a 
>>>>>> MUSA 
>>>>>> Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a 
>>>>>> little 
>>>>>> small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider 
>>>>>> including.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a rush 
>>>>>> to sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 plus 
>>>>>> shipping. I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer 
>>>>>> questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Jonathan D.]

Bump.

I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I am 
flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>
>> Hey Jonathan,
>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local pickup 
>> is possible?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sean
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find the 
>>> MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it is 
>>> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
>>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 for 
>>> the Toyo.
>>>
>>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I traded 
>>> for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I bought 
>>> from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, mostly 
>>> because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>>
>>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
>>> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can look, 
>>> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, Sugino 
>>> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm 
>>> tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity Hubs. 
>>> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the top 
>>> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>>>
>>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>>>
>>> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to price. 
>>>  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price.  I don't 
>>> want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I have 
>>> enough parts.
>>>
>>> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
>>> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
>>>> questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range & 
>>>> how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis has 
>>>> evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length may 
>>>> be helpful.  
>>>>
>>>> Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be 
>>>> ridden.  
>>>>
>>>> dougP
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This 
>>>>> is a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a 
>>>>> MUSA 
>>>>> Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a 
>>>>> little 
>>>>> small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider 
>>>>> including.  
>>>>>
>>>>> These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a rush 
>>>>> to sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 plus 
>>>>> shipping. I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer 
>>>>> questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Jonathan D.]

I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:

> Hey Jonathan,
> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local pickup 
> is possible?
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find the 
>> MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it is 
>> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 for 
>> the Toyo.
>>
>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I traded 
>> for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I bought 
>> from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, mostly 
>> because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>
>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano (can't 
>> tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can look, Brooks 
>> C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, Sugino Crank 
>> triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm tires. 
>> The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity Hubs. 
>> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the top 
>> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>>
>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>>
>> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to price. 
>>  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price.  I don't 
>> want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I have 
>> enough parts.
>>
>> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
>> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
>>> questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range & 
>>> how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis has 
>>> evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length may 
>>> be helpful.  
>>>
>>> Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be ridden.  
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This is 
>>>> a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a MUSA 
>>>> Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a little 
>>>> small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider including. 
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a rush 
>>>> to sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 plus 
>>>> shipping. I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer 
>>>> questions.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Jonathan D.]

Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find the 
MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it is 
similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 for 
the Toyo.

Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I traded for 
it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I bought from 
the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, mostly because 
of Covid and very little bike commuting. 

It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano (can't 
tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can look, Brooks 
C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, Sugino Crank 
triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm tires. 
The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity Hubs. 
Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the top 
tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/

I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to price. 
 I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price.  I don't 
want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I have 
enough parts.

I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 


On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:

> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
> questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range & 
> how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis has 
> evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length may 
> be helpful.  
>
> Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be ridden.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This is a 
>> really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a MUSA 
>> Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a little 
>> small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider including.  
>>
>> These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a rush to 
>> sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 plus shipping. 
>> I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer questions.
>>
>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx
>>
>

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[RBW] FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition

[Jonathan D.]

I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This is a 
really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a MUSA 
Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a little 
small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider including.  

These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a rush to 
sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 plus shipping. 
I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer questions.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx

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[RBW] Re: Gus Boots coming back?

[Jonathan Stafford]

This reply will show up wayyy too late to be helpful. But an email from Riv 
gave an indication of available frames timeline.
   
   - Sam Hillbornes - around Halloween
   - Platypus frames - November
   - Appaloosas - early next year
   - Clem Ls - March or April
   - Charlie Gallops - sometime around Summer
   - Homers after that
   - Susie/Gus after that


Looks like it'll be a pretty long wait. Hopefully, the Susie will work for 
you. Ditto to the above comment that the Susie has been upped in weight 
class. 

just Jonathan.


*PS. Why does it take so long for my post to show up in the forum? Is it 
because I'm a Texan? *
On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 9:18:53 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> You might want to discuss the weight limit of the Susie with them. Will 
> recently posted an email saying under 210 should be fine, I always thought 
> 165 sounded way low based on my one spin around the building on one. I'm 
> not quite up to the bigger number but I'm certainly not 165 lbs. and the 
> bike felt as sturdy as any other Riv I've owned, and I've owned a bunch. 
>
> Joe "not a superlight" Bernard
> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 3:01:41 PM UTC-8 Ryan M. wrote:
>
>> Before I send off an email to Riv and bother them, does anybody here know 
>> when a new shipment of Gus Boots Willsen bikes are coming?  Or maybe they 
>> are never coming back?  I missed out on the first batch because I wasn't 
>> paying much attention and these bikes seem to sell out quick like rock and 
>> roll shows. (I weigh too much for a Susie, so that is a no-go)
>>
>> Thanks. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO: budget 650b rim brake wheel set

[Jonathan Stafford]

No experience, but seen some RBW members talk about these in the past w/ 
mixed reviews. cyclestoussaint 650B 

I just went super cheapo with an Amazon StaTru set for under $100 shipped. 
I do not expect much from them but they'll do fine until I get around to 
building my new wheels. After that, I'll donate them to a local coop for 
some 26" conversion thing or wheel truing lessons. Good luck!
On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 3:29:27 PM UTC-5 Nikko in Oakland wrote:

> Hey y’all,
>
> I’m waiting for Rich to get all the parts to build me a wheelset. 
>
> In the meantime, does anybody have a < $200 650b rim brake wheel set 
> they’re willing to part with? Preferably in the Bay Area so I can pick it 
> up instead of pay for shipping. 
>
> Thanks in advance! 
>
> Nikko 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: New Sams are open for order

[Jonathan Stafford]

54cm are sold out too! Yikes that was fast...

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 3:24:32 PM UTC-5 Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:

>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/framesets/products/frame-sam-hillborne-2020
>
> 51cm are already sold out.  
>

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[RBW] Re: In-kind donations for effective cycling advocacy

[Jonathan Stafford]

Hey Jay,

If your local bike advocacy group has a way for you to get involved that 
means a lot to them - that's the in-kind gift that most bicycle advocacy 
orgs appreciate most. Trust me, I work for one and if I had to choose the 
monetary donation from parts you sold or having you phone bank for yearend 
appeal, or getting a petition signed to increase roadway safety in 
underserved areas...I'll take your time over your money all day! 

As it relates to Riv's BRP pricing, maybe you could find your local Riv 
dealer and make them the offer you thought to make Riv. Being intentional 
about who you're willing to sell/donate your parts to is a lot easier at 
the local level. Plus, you may already have a good relationship with the 
shop and have a chance to meet some folks you otherwise may not have. 

I'm just happy you're thinking deeply about how to be involved. If you 
decide to sell here, I'll support your efforts by paying what you ask w/o 
negotiation. But that's just me. Best of luck!
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 5:28:18 PM UTC-4 Collin A wrote:

> Is the goal to supply under-served populations with tools and equipment 
> they would otherwise not be able to afford, or to have a more broad impact 
> on society's treatment of certain populations? I'm not trying to get 
> philosophical, just that the difference between the two will impact whether 
> it's better to fund Riv's BRP or something like the ACLU. 
>
> Regardless, selling the parts and donating the funds is the easiest and 
> most effective way to go I think. You could always ask Riv if they want the 
> old parts I guess?
>
> Good Luck,
> Collin in Sacramento
>
> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 11:46:10 AM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> Over the years I have amassed a sizable stash of really nice components 
>> that I no longer need - Paul brakes and levers, Nitto stems and handlebars, 
>> XTR M900 wheelset, SON dynohub, etc. It's all valuable on the open market, 
>> but Riv's BRP has got me thinking about how best to donate it for maximal 
>> benefit. My fear is that if I just dropped it all off at my local bike 
>> co-op the best stuff will be skimmed by the staff. I've thought of reaching 
>> out to Riv directly to see if they could repurpose it for the BRP, but that 
>> potentially creates issues they'd rather avoid (liability, not wanting to 
>> become a used parts dumping ground, etc.). So I thought I'd poll the nice 
>> folks here for some ideas on how to Marie Kondo my parts bin while serving 
>> the interests of social justice. It may be that the best move will be to 
>> take a page from Peter Singer and sell the stuff outright and then donate 
>> the proceeds - in that case stay tuned, since I'll probably list it all 
>> here first.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
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[RBW] Re: 650b Atlantis Sizing for an 85PBH

[Jonathan D.]

I have an 85 PBH and ride a 56 Waterford I am debating selling but not 
because of fit.  I also rode a 58 Toyo Atlantis.  Both were great and I 
would have gone just with wheel size.  I would buy a 53 MIT and ride a 55 
Joe Appaloosa. 

On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 7:54:36 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:

> Alex:
>
> I have an 84cm PBH & ride a 58cm Atlantis from Toyo.  I've also ridden a 
> 56 cm & can fit either one. I'm in an overlap of the two sizes as made by 
> Toyo.
>
> Now to your question:  Do you know if the 56 cm 650B is from Waterford or 
> Taiwan?  There was a brief period a while back when Waterford made the 
> Atlantis.  I rode a 56cm 650B Waterford & it was a nice fit & nice ride.  
> Toyo's Atlantis was 26" wheels.  
>
> For the MIT (current version), there is no 56 cm.  53, 55, 59, but no 56.  
> I rode a 53 cm without knowing it's size & assumed it was a 56.  It felt 
> great, especially the ride quality with the longer wheel base.  After the 
> ride, they told me it was a 53, and I was pleasantly surprised.
>
> I'll bet if you build it up & ride it, you'll love it.  
>
> dougP  
>
> On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 5:54:45 PM UTC-7, Alex K wrote:
>>
>> Hey all.  I know Atlantis sizing is a hot topic around these parts.  At 
>> the risk of being redundant, I am trying to figure out which Atlantis is 
>> the one for me.  I recently bought a 56cm Atlantis 650b frame from the RBW 
>> Garage Sale, thinking that it was the perfect size for me.  Now that I am 
>> getting close to building it up, i’m starting to doubt myself.  I have an 
>> 85 PBH.  I tend to like bikes a LITTLE bit on the smaller size.  Wondering 
>> if perhaps the 53 Atlantis is actually the one for me.   Anybody have ANY 
>> advice at all?  Thanks a bunch.
>> Alex
>>
>

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[RBW] Rambouillet/Romulus 650b Conversion

[Jonathan D.]

I know there has been this topic before and would be curious what new and 
prior experiences folks have had converting Rambouillet/Romulus to 650b. 
How did the conversion impact handling?  Would you recommend making the 
conversion or did you switch back? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

[Jonathan D.]

Thanks for the correction.  75 SH. Basically same size as Bill.  Still debating 
selling mine but because I have 4 Rivs. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

[Jonathan D.]

I have a 75 PBH and the Atlantis fits great.  I have one of the Waterford 
versions.  Works well with drops in my size.  I also ride a 59 Roadeo and 55 
Appaloosa for comparison. 

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Re: [RBW] Looking for pannier

[Jonathan Thomas]

Could you forward me some pics please :)

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 10:26 PM, Adam  wrote:
> 
> I’ve got some turquoise carsick panniers I’d be happy to sell if you’re 
> interested. They’re in very good shape, I just don’t use em much. Thanks!
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[RBW] Looking for pannier

[Jonathan Thomas]

Looking for new/used Carsick Design pannier grey. Please message me with any 
information on one for sale, thank you. 

Jonathan

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist score -- 59cm Roadeo

[Jonathan D.]

Love it. Great find. Loving the Roadeo I picked up on the list. Feels faster 
but could be the wheels. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Social justice from a real working class perspective

[Jonathan D.]

I deleted my response. Don’t know about the overall post.  

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[RBW] Re: Social justice from a real working class perspective

[Jonathan D.]

Thank you for sharing.  He had some interesting posts. I agree with Brent and 
would love to hear what others would read.  I am heartened by how many folks 
are speaking up right now about what is happening in this country and the 
systems of injustice. There are many ways to be a good person in the world but 
not one that involves the exploitation, abuse and dehumanization of human 
beings. At least today there was a glimmer of hope for our LGBTQ+ friends, 
family and neighbors.  

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[RBW] Re: Golden Pliers Roadini Raffle

[Jonathan D.]

This is great and they raised almost $16,000 dollars. 

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[RBW] Re: Commuter Tire for Hunq

[Jonathan D.]

I have an unused pair of Schwalbe G ones, 60 mm if interested and they fit. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: On Topic / Off Topic

[Jonathan D.]

Jim - thank you for all you do for this forum to keep it going. I do really 
value it and the community. I also see how some threads digress and lose 
civility and I don’t envy your role to manage that. 

I don’t think Jan’s post was off topic or inappropriate though and I think the 
Blahg is evidence of this.  Rivendell’s values and mission align with the BLM 
movement. There are years of systemic racism and sexism in bike culture and 
history that Grant highlighted this week and many times before, and I hope we 
can also continue to challenge this history wherever and whenever we can.  I do 
think there is a level of white privilege to expect to come to this forum and 
not have to hear about what our neighbors face everyday just for being black or 
brown, or gay, or trans, etc and be confronted with what is happening in this 
world.  I do think everyone should be expected to be civil to each other, be 
respectful and at times let the thread stop. 

Again thank you for all you do. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: BQ fund drive for Black Lives Matter

[Jonathan D.]

Thanks Jan. 

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Wavie Bar

[Jonathan D.]

I have one if interested.  I am in Portland OR if we can avoid shipping. 

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[RBW] Why I went Tubeless

[Jonathan D.]

https://enduro-mtb.com/en/the-best-tubeless-tire-inflator-system/5/

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[RBW] Why I went Tubeless

[Jonathan D.]

I was thinking about if these pumps. I think they work as mini air compressors. 

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[RBW] WTB Rene Herse Bon Jon Extra Light

[Jonathan D.]

Does anyone have new or lightly used Bon Jon extra lights?  Could trade for 
Rene Herse 32 Stampede Pass tires. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: your near-new tires, 700 x 40 ish

[Jonathan D.]

Sean- I would be interested in the Compass tires. 

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[RBW] Re: Why I went Tubeless

[Jonathan D.]

Do any of the bike pumps really work with tubleless setup?  My bump broke so 
was thinking of replacing it with something that could work with tubeless setup 
in lieu of having an air compressor. 

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[RBW] Re: Dynamo Hub Recommendations

[Jonathan D.]

Thank you everyone for your advice and the recent information about SP hubs. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: 10-speed 11-34 Shimano cassette $20

[Jonathan D.]

Im on my phone but if available I’ll take it. 

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[RBW] Dynamo Hub Recommendations

[Jonathan D.]

I was curious what folks experience are with the different dynamo hub 
options.  The Schmidt Sonn Dynamo hub seem to set the standard but at a 
high cost.  The other two I was looking at are Shutter Precision and the 
Shimano Dynamo hubs.  Anyone seen a good comparison? Should I be concerned 
with reliability if I went with something cheaper than the Schmidt hub?

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[RBW] WTB Rivendell Hat

[Jonathan D.]

The Randijo hat is great.  I highly recommend the waxed canvas. I am selling 
the Rivelo special edition one because I have two.  

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[RBW] WTB Rivendell Hat

[Jonathan D.]

The hat place I think went out of business. 

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[RBW] WTB Rivendell Hat

[Jonathan D.]

Does anyone have a Large Xl Rivendell Baseball cap? I am looking for one of the 
hats from the limited release last year. 

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[RBW] Re: FS. Rivendell Hats, Paul Neo Retro, Tires and misc

[Jonathan D.]

Updates Below

All prices include shipping. Trying to do some spring cleaning. I have some 
wheels I’ll post soon, both 700c and 650b. 


Rivelo Hat: One of a kind design Randijo Waxed Canvas Hat.  $60. Size 
Large, which Randi Jo lists at 23.5inch to 24.5 inch. Great Shape   

Rivendell Bucket Hat – Great shape and hardly used.  $45  *SOLD*
  
 Would trade for a lightly used Rivendell baseball cap from the 
 same release. 
  
Paul Neo Retro Brakes – Only receive what is pictured.  Great condition and 
hardly used.  $115 *SOLD*
  
Schwalbe G-one 700c (29er) 2.35 mm – Brand new but don’t plan to ship with 
box. $105 
  
Ibex Bib Shorts – New with Tag – Large $105 
https://www.rei.com/product/895799/ibex-bib-bike-shorts-mens
  
Soma Cazadero – Good Shape. 700x 43 $55.* SOLD*

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0Z5VaUrz4MPWY
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> Sending PM for Cazaderos.
>
> -Eric
>

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[RBW] FS. Rivendell Hats, Paul Neo Retro, Tires and misc

[Jonathan D.]

All prices include shipping. Trying to do some spring cleaning. I have some 
wheels I’ll post soon, both 700c and 650b. 


Rivelo Hat: One of a kind design Randijo Waxed Canvas Hat.  $60. Size Large, 
which Randi Jo lists at 23.5inch to 24.5 inch. Great Shape
 
Rivendell Bucket Hat – Great shape and hardly used.  $45
 
 Would trade for a lightly used Rivendell baseball cap from the 
 same release.
 
Paul Neo Retro Brakes – Only receive what is pictured.  Great condition and 
hardly used.  $115
 
Schwalbe G-one 700c (29er) 2.35 mm – Brand new but don’t plan to ship with box. 
$105
 
Ibex Bib Shorts – New with Tag – Large $105
 
Soma Cazadero – Good Shape. 700x 43 $55.

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Re: [RBW] PSA: 68 AHH on Seattle CL

[Jonathan D.]

I have before but not a bike.  I asked a bunch of questions that led me to 
believe they were intimately knowledgeable of Rivendell and then used that to 
feel comfortable with the sale.  A big bike purchase would be hard to trust on 
CL. 

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Re: [RBW] 59 CM Roadeo for sale

[Jonathan D.]

I am excited to try the Roadeo.  I purchased it from David this weekend.

On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 1:17:38 PM UTC-7, Matt Beecher wrote:
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> Me too, please. 

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo - The Final Rivendell Edition

[Jonathan D.]

Thanks for sharing. I have a 59 Roadeo coming next week and also have the Road 
Plus. I am excited to compare and look forward to your impressions. 

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[RBW] Re: Tubulars on Rivendells

[Jonathan D.]

Loved your builds. Ended up flipping through your bikes.  

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Re: [RBW] 59 CM Roadeo for sale

[Jonathan D.]

I sent an PM to see pics. I am definitely interested. 

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 66 or 68cm Quickbeam frame set

[Jonathan D.]

David Feldman did a repair for me before and a great job.  He is in Vancouver 
and was the Rivelo mechanic as well.  

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 66 or 68cm Quickbeam frame set

[Jonathan D.]

I know you loved that bike.  I hope another 68 turns up soon.  

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 1:38:37 PM UTC-7, Birdman wrote:
>
> Thanks, Ryan. Hopefully the lister will see the post, but feel free to put 
> them in touch! Also, please put me on the waitlist for the Bomba if you 
> decide to let it go and that deal falls through!
> Brd 

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[RBW] Re: Speed wobble

[Jonathan D.]

My Toyo Atlantis did this. I switched this headset and that helped. The Riv 
site mentions this as welll in the description.  
https://www.rivbike.com/products/headset-tange-ird-needl-blastr-roller-drive

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[RBW] Re: Real width of Schwalbe Big Ben tires and the effect with fenders.

[Jonathan K.]

The tires ride nice, but I've been wondering if they are making the bike 
feel a little more sluggish than it could be. I switched to them very 
shortly after getting the bike, and I didn't really notice much of a 
difference compared to the stock Kendas. I've got over 3000 miles on them 
now. No flats, which is good, but I've been thinking about trying something 
a little more sporty like the G-One series or maybe even the Rene Herse 
Antelope Hills. 



On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 5:29:36 PM UTC-5, Roberta wrote:
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> Thank you, everyone! With this information,  I feel comfortable ordering 
> the Big Bens and expecting them to fit.  Jonathan--how do you like the 
> tires on your Appaloosa? 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem Smith Jr Disc 59

[Jonathan D.]

I reached out to Walt since there seems to be a lot of interest.  Here are the 
details for anyone interested. I would be really curious to hear folks 
experience. 

I typically charge $100 for the frame (including the crossbrace between 
seatstay/chainstay). Forks (if I think it's appropriate) are $75. 

That doesn't include any repainting or shipping cost. I can powdercoat a 
frameset for $250 in any color in the Prismatic catalog, though.

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[RBW] Re: Real width of Schwalbe Big Ben tires and the effect with fenders.

[Jonathan K.]

I have an Appaloosa and made that same tire swap on mine. Mine is 700c, not 
650b, but I'm not sure that makes a difference in terms of width/clearance. 
I installed the widest SKS fenders Riv sells (B65 I think?) over the stock 
Kendas. When I swapped to the 700x50 (2.0) Big Bens, I didn't need to mess 
with the fenders at all. I have lots of clearance. The Big Bens measured 
quite a bit undersize (on the stock Alex rims that came on the Riv-complete 
Appaloosa).

Jonathan

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 7:52:35 PM UTC-5, Roberta wrote:
>
> Last week, I rode Leah's (Bicycle Belle Ding Ding) Clem L, which was a 
> lovely ride--limo like, to quote a member here.  She told me she had 
> changed the Kenda tires for Schwalbe Big Ben tires and it improved the 
> already great ride.
>
> I have a 2016 Joe Appaloosa with the the stock Kenda tires on it.  The 
> width is marked on the tire:  1.75".  I'm thinking of changing my tires to 
> the same Big Bens as Leah has.  
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/schwalbe-big-ben-wire-raceguard-performance-line-hs439-700c-x-50-50-622-28x2-00-10129?variant=12239848210543
>  
> , which are on Riv's site as this:  650B x 48 (50-584, 27.5x2.00) RaceGuard 
> Performance line 10138.
>
> Does anyone know the actual width?  I'm OK with changing tires, but would 
> this mean I'd need to get my fenders re-aligned? The fenders look pretty 
> big to me, so I don't think I'd need wider ones if the tire is wider (I 
> hope it's not).   Luckily, I live in a city with lots of bike shops (let's 
> hope their businesses survive the Covid-19 shutdown) and a mechanic who 
> knows Rivs and can do fenders well.
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta
>

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[RBW] WTB: Cheap Sam Hillborne or another Riv

[Jonathan D.]

Please reply all. I would love to see what is posted.  85pbh. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Nitto M12 Front Rack.

[Jonathan D.]

I just sent a PM 

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[RBW] FS: Nitto M12 Front Rack.

[Jonathan D.]

I didn’t see a price.  I am interested depending on the price. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Thule Yepp Rear Rack

[Jonathan D.]

I have one. I am  it sure what the shipping cost is. Feel free to PM me. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB Thompson Seatpost & Paul Thumb Shifter Mount right

[Jonathan D.]

Yes. Thank you Bill. The same one Riv sells. 

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[RBW] WTB Thompson Seatpost & Paul Thumb Shifter Mount right

[Jonathan D.]

Looking for a setback 410 mm 27.2 Thompson Seatpost and a right Paul Thumb 
Shifter Mount. I could trade a shorter zero setback thompson Seatpost or nitto 
Seatpost. 

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Re: [RBW] Raid Bill's Stable: Nine bikes available For Sale

[Jonathan D.]

There are several bikes I would love to buy but can’t justify right now.  Do 
you have a pic of the Univega?  I have a frame I want to build up and curious 
to see your build. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: XL dirt-touring-rando frames: Stumpjumper, Black Mountain, Nashbar

[Jonathan D.]

How much would you want for the Road Plus wheels? Great bikes but I am a few 
inches off for PBH. 

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[RBW] Re: Experiences with Atlantis

[Jonathan D.]

How about the new Charlie B Gallop that is coming out.  

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Re: [RBW] Switching Appaloosa from 700 to 650b

[Jonathan D.]

There are new sizes coming out but if you want 650B I would suggest the new 
Atlantis.  I believe it is really just a 660B Joe. 

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[RBW] Re: Rivelo closing in January

[Jonathan D.]

As we closeout 2019, I want to thank Rivelo for the five years.  It is a 
wonderful shop and Darby and John were always kind, patient and helpful. I 
bought my Joe there and still have a few things to pick up.  I will miss Rivelo 
but glad they are keeping the Instagram going.  

I also hope Portland, or the NW, will have another Rivendell dealer. Fingers 
crossed.  

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 650b wheelset (for Rosco Baby build) AND tires too - want to buy by this weekend, SF Bay Area

[Jonathan D.]

I have a pair of Vocity Atlas wheels I could sell. I think Deore but I am out 
of town. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Wavie Bars, Nitto Mark's Rack (w long stays), Nitto 32F, Shimano 105 5800 group (Silver), Paul stuff, and more

[Jonathan D.]

Sent PM. 
On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 11:39:13 AM UTC-8, Adam Leibow wrote:
> Hi RBW group!
> 
> 
> Selling some hot-ticket items! I am at work now and will post pictures 
> tonight. 
> 
> 
> Nitto Wavie Bar (good condition) - $55 shipped
> Nitto Mark's Rack (w long stays) - $100 shipped
> Nitto 32F Rack - $100 shipped
> Shimano 105 5800 Group (silver color, 172.5mm crankarms, 52/36 or 34, 11sp) - 
> $250 shipped
> Ultegra mid reach brakes (silver color, I think 7800 is the era). - $50 
> shipped
> Tektro R559 long reach brakes (no pads or pad holders). - $45 shipped
> 
> 
> I also have a Paul Component components "suite" that I kind of want to sell:
> - Silver Thumbies, 22.2
> - Silver Neo Retro Canti's (the front straddle cable bolt threading is 
> stripped so there is an added nut on the backside). 
> - Polished silver Moon Units
> - Silver Canti Levers (new kind w. smoother bearings)
> $200 for all of it
> 
> 
> Let me know if these prices are fair or if you think you should pay less! I 
> am open. 
> 
> 
> Pls text (310) 963 6959
> 
> 
> thanks!
> Adam

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[RBW] Re: 59cm Roadeo for sale

[Jonathan D.]

Don,

I am definitely interested.  Could you send me some pictures?  What is your pbh?

On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 7:58:37 AM UTC-8, Don Compton wrote:
> I am selling my Roadeo. Time to move on. The frame is in great shape, a few 
> paint chips but NO DENTS. It is equipped with a Shimano Ultegra 11sp partial 
> group, Nitto stem and seat post, and a very good set of Williams wheels. 
> Asking $1500 net to me.. If interested, please send me a private message and 
> I will send pics and any other info. This is a California bike and there is 
> little to no rust.
> Thanks, Don

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[RBW] Re: 59cm Roadeo for sale

[Jonathan D.]

Just sent DM. 

On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 7:58:37 AM UTC-8, Don Compton wrote:
> I am selling my Roadeo. Time to move on. The frame is in great shape, a few 
> paint chips but NO DENTS. It is equipped with a Shimano Ultegra 11sp partial 
> group, Nitto stem and seat post, and a very good set of Williams wheels. 
> Asking $1500 net to me.. If interested, please send me a private message and 
> I will send pics and any other info. This is a California bike and there is 
> little to no rust.
> Thanks, Don

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

[Jonathan D.]

Is there any company that produces a 650B version of something like this?  
Thinking of getting a wheel like this for my wife’s 45 Clementine to help with 
pulling kids in the bike trailer. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Toyo Atlantis, partial build

[Jonathan D.]

What two new bikes do you have coming?

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[RBW] Bike Article

[Jonathan D.]

https://www.outsideonline.com/2402806/its-almost-impossible-buy-bad-bike

If you make it to the end the writer calls out both Rivendell and Jones bikes. 

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[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Randi Jo Pocket Tender

[Jonathan D.]

I have the Rivelo one I haven’t been using.  

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[RBW] Used Hillborne value

[Jonathan D.]

My guess $600-800. 

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[RBW] WTB Nitto 26.8 Seatpost

[Jonathan D.]

I am looking for a Nitto 26.8 seatpost if anyone has one to sell.  

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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa 700c to 650b via Paul motolite barkes

[Jonathan D.]

Easiest solution is to sell the Joe and buy a MIT Atlantis, which is mostly a 
650B Joe. 

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[RBW] WTB -- BOBish bike. And -- thoughts on this Romlus FS?

[Jonathan D.]

The Romulus takes 38s without fenders and jack browns with fenders.  It is a 
great bike. 

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[RBW] Re: Chacos vs. Bedrocks

[Jonathan D.]

Chacos have a high arches and thick soles.  I tried them and the arch kills my 
feet and I can’t wear them without getting leg pains.   The Chacos are also 
really heavy. 

I tried the bedrock sandals and love them. The sole is thinner with zero drop. 
The shoe is very light but doesn’t move on my foot and is substantial enough to 
wear all day, including hiking, and light enough to forget I have them on. I 
highly recommend the bedrock. I got them for my wife and she also loves them. I 
know folks love Chacos but they don’t work work for me and the bedrocks were 
amazing from day 1. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Blahg Post Ethiopian Shoes

[Jonathan Gutoff]

They finally arrived after 13 weeks and, having worn them for about and 
hour, I think they're pretty comfortable and they seem well made. If  the 
company were more realistic about there delivery time  -- it was posted as 
20 working days plus shipping when I ordered, and when last I looked it was 
up to six weeks-- or more forthright in its communciation I'd be happy.  
If, given the work load they have, it takes three months to get an order 
fulfilled that's what it takes, but SoleRebels should tell whoever it is 
planning on ordering their shoes, or who has ordered them, what's going on.

On Wednesday, August 7, 2019 at 1:52:18 PM UTC-4, Jon Dukeman,central 
Colorado wrote:
>
> Keep after them. I finally got mine after hearing the same excuses.
> They didn't fit so I took them to Goodwill.
> Hope you have better luck.
> I learned my lesson. 
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 9:41 AM Jonathan Gutoff > 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Another data point. Without having read the posts on this topic, I 
>> ordered a pair on May 9 of this year, 2019, at which time the website 
>> listed time to fulfillment as 20 working days plus extra time for shipping. 
>> The website now gives the time to fulfillment as six weeks  -- Ii may be 
>> that the original 12 days was not a typo, but, like the 20 working days and 
>> six weeks, an overly optomistic goal. 
>>
>> In response to a message from me, on June 19 I got the following:
>>
>> "Jonathan many thanks for your followup and  please accept my apologies 
>> for the  delay - we have been extra busy these days. Your order is  
>> being completed and you will soon get a shipment confirmation with tracking 
>> information from the order team.
>>
>> Thanks again for your business [ and your added  patience] . We are 
>> excited to get your soleRebels to you and onto your feet.
>>
>> very best regards ,
>>
>> *bethlehem tilahun alemu <https://twitter.com/BethlehemAlemu>*
>>
>> founder & c.e.o  ,  soleRebels <http://www.solerebels.com/> footwear"
>>
>>
>> I heard nothing for several weeks. On July 10, in response to another 
>> message from me I got a email that said:
>>
>>
>> "Dear Jonathan,
>>
>> Your order will ship Wednesday, July 24, 2019 Via FedEx Express AWB# 
>> *811320214218 
>> *and from shipping day it takes four working days to deliver.   
>>
>> Our apologies for the delay.
>> -- 
>>
>> very best
>>
>> Tirunesh Girma"
>>
>>
>> As of today, the order is still listed as unfulfilled and FedEx tracking 
>> has no information on the wabill number I was provided. I sent a message 
>> last night.
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[RBW] Re: Blahg Post Ethiopian Shoes

[Jonathan Gutoff]

Another data point. Without having read the posts on this topic, I ordered 
a pair on May 9 of this year, 2019, at which time the website listed time 
to fulfillment as 20 working days plus extra time for shipping. The website 
now gives the time to fulfillment as six weeks  -- Ii may be that the 
original 12 days was not a typo, but, like the 20 working days and six 
weeks, an overly optomistic goal. 

In response to a message from me, on June 19 I got the following:

"Jonathan many thanks for your followup and  please accept my apologies for 
the  delay - we have been extra busy these days. Your order is  being 
completed and you will soon get a shipment confirmation with tracking 
information from the order team.

Thanks again for your business [ and your added  patience] . We are excited 
to get your soleRebels to you and onto your feet.

very best regards ,

*bethlehem tilahun alemu <https://twitter.com/BethlehemAlemu>*

founder & c.e.o  ,  soleRebels <http://www.solerebels.com/> footwear"


I heard nothing for several weeks. On July 10, in response to another 
message from me I got a email that said:


"Dear Jonathan,

Your order will ship Wednesday, July 24, 2019 Via FedEx Express AWB# 
*811320214218 
*and from shipping day it takes four working days to deliver.   

Our apologies for the delay.
-- 

very best

Tirunesh Girma"


As of today, the order is still listed as unfulfilled and FedEx tracking 
has no information on the wabill number I was provided. I sent a message 
last night.

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[RBW] Re: Quickie Velogical Review

[Jonathan Gutoff]

I have two Velogical generators, both ordered from directly from Germany. 
One over four year ago, another three. In both cases the customer service 
was really great. Both have been powering B Eycl front lights and  
Toplight Plus rear lights without any problem in rain. There is some noise, 
which, obviously, means some energy loss, but not much. Perhaps because I'm 
not very sensitive, I can't notice any increased effort when the dynamo 
engaged.

On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 11:34:41 AM UTC-4, Matthew J wrote:
>
> Finally have my new commuter up and running.  Took it on some shake down 
> rides over the weekend and rode to work this a.m.
>
> Frame and front rack are custom.  Some on the RBW group may be interested 
> in the Velogical dynamo I am using to power the head lights and tail lights.
>
> The new frame has a dynamo braze on but you can buy the Velogical with 
> bolt on mounts.  As this builder picture 
>  shows, the 
> Velogical tucks neatly under the Honjo H-35 fenders.  There is a simple 
> wire lever that either locks the dynamo on to the wheel or off. 
>
> Lights are Lumotec EYC and Secula - you can see the latter in the linked 
> picture.  Velogical instantly powered both.  Even at low speed the lighting 
> is as bright as I could ever need in the city.  Engaged it makes a little 
> noise - not enough to annoy me - coasting the TT White Industry freewheel 
> is louder  I imagine there has to be drag, but nothing I notice.  It has 
> been pretty wet here in Chicago the last few days (weeks really).  I 
> deliberately rode through puddles.  Velogical did not seem to slip any.  I 
> hope to take the bike on some short tours away from city lights soon. 
>  Frankly the lighting appears bright enough that I do not expect any 
> problems.
>
> I have a SON hub on my tour bike and had one on my previous commuter. 
>  They are definitely great power generators.  Velogical is somewhat less 
> expensive, lighter, and allows use of whatever front hub you want.  Time 
> will tell whether these little dynamos are durable.  At this point it 
> definitely appears to be a viable alternative to generator hubs for some 
> uses.
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Ultegra 3x9 group incl. wheels, nitto tallux, nitto noodle

[Jonathan D.]

What do you think so far?  A 58?  

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