[RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Clem Smith Jr. L frameset

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Graham, I saw your other WTB post and thought I'd chime in. I have a 
similar PBH (91) and ride a 64 Clem as my daily commuter and love it. It 
fits great, so I think this would work for you. Hopefully it's still 
avail.  

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 1:22:37 PM UTC-4 Graham McCall wrote:

> Paul- is this still available??
>
> On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 10:12:36 AM UTC-5 Paul M wrote:
>
>> Last call for this frameset. $875 plus shipping. Thanks, Paul
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Simworks Ramble Bar experiences

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Anyone have a spare set of these bars they're looking to unload? Very 
interested in these for a new cargo bike build. Thanks!

On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:22:21 PM UTC-5 Damien wrote:

> Thanks for the replies everyone. As an FYI, I'm a bit of a smaller guy, 
> but bought these because I enjoyed my Albatross bars with the only knock on 
> them being that they were too narrow and I felt cramped with them even with 
> a 120mm stem. My hope was that these bars would give some of the benefits I 
> enjoyed with the Albatrossbut wider.
>
> On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 11:41:24 UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Looks like mounting these with negative rise could be something like a 
>> wider Choco bar, with a little less sweep, which could be good for trail 
>> riding.  (I love the ChocoMoose on my Hunq, but would be nice to be able to 
>> lean into the bars a bit more off road.)
>>
>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:06:38 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> If you still have buyer's remorse after receiving them, let me know.  I 
>>> wasn't aware of these, but they look to be very much what I wish for on a 
>>> daily basis.  (Essentially, a really wide albatross bar.)  Wish they had a 
>>> 25.4 or 22.2 clamp area, and the grip area looks too short.  Actually, they 
>>> even admit that part.  But you could always use extenders to lengthen them 
>>> if you don't want bar end shifters.  
>>>
>>> Funny that they recommend a specific stem length.  That's really going 
>>> to depend on the bike, the desired position, and the particular rider's 
>>> physiology.  I think you'll still have to experiment with stems, just like 
>>> any bar. It's not like we're living in the 90s when every bike had the 
>>> exact same geometry.
>>>
>>> The reason those look appealing to me is because I'm a big-ish guy with 
>>> broad shoulders and a proprtionally long torso that puts my ideal grip 
>>> posiition further forward than most would want.  The last half-decade or so 
>>> has been a godsend for me with bars getting wider, but most (like the 
>>> tosco) sweep back without sweeping forward first, which means I need a 
>>> longer tem - which are hard to find.
>>>
>>> Let us know what you think.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:55:15 AM UTC-7 Damien wrote:
>>>
 Hi! I'm curious if anyone has experience with these bars? I was able to 
 track down a pair and I pulled the trigger on them without any real 
 thought 
 and had immediate buyers remorse. That said, I'd still love to hear others 
 thoughts on them before I go down the dark path of buying parts to switch 
 out my drop bars. How do they ride? Are they too wide? How did you set 
 them 
 up (i.e., stem length, etc.)? Recommend?

 Thanks all!

 Oh, and for reference, here they are: 
 https://sim-works.com/en/news/golden-pliers-x-simworks-ramble-bar

>>>

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[RBW] Trigger Shifter Question

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I've always used friction shifters but am thinking about putting a trigger 
shifter on a new cargo bike build. So apologies in advance if this is a 
stupid question, but...Do you have to use the corresponding rear 
derailleur/groupset for a particular shifter? Or can you mix and match? 

For instance, Riv sells 5-6 different shifters 
 (Sora, Alivio, Acera, 
Altus, Claris, etc.). If I buy, say, the Altus, can I only use it with an 
Altus RD? 

Thanks in advance-

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[RBW] Crust Harvey Mushman Bars?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I'm looking for some bars for a new cargo bike build (Surly Big Dummy) and 
was intrigued when I saw Will was using Crust's Harvey Mushman bars 
 on his new tandem 
. 

Does anyone have experience with these bars, particularly the 24 degree 
backsweep version? I think I would want to cut them down to 680-ish rather 
than the stock 800mm as that seems entirely too wide for urban riding. I'm 
also concerned about getting enough backsweep. Assuming I"ll use a stubby 
stem (50mm or shorter). 

Would love to hear your thoughts if you've used these bars. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: PONCHOS!!!

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I'll give a mildly enthusiastic recommendation for the Blue Lug/Fairweather 
poncho. I use it anytime I need to ride in the rain and it does a pretty 
good job. It's not great for windy rain conditions, but I doubt any poncho 
would be. Someone above mentioned they're low vis colors, which is true, 
but you can spruce it up with some reflective material/tape without doing 
damage to the waterproof fabric. 

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 8:48:13 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> I have the Grundens poncho and fishing hat. I looked on the Grundens 
> website and could not find the poncho, but they still have the hat. I also 
> have the MUSA splats. I was ready to order the gaiters, but they never 
> reappeared on the Rive website (this was a few years ago).
> The poncho works great on the bicycle (with fenders) - I love the thumb 
> loops and visibility of the yellow. I have also worn the poncho and hat at 
> an outdoor rain or shine concert sitting in a big folding chair - the 
> poncho was big enough to keep the chair dry as well.
>
> Laing
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 5:07:46 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> Not to rub it in, but yes, the Riv Grundens poncho is the best ever. So 
>> sorry they do not have them any more. Maybe they need to do  another run, 
>> but I am sure then they would be $$$.
>>
>> I have the Grundens, but also have a Vaude Valdipino 
>>  
>> that is very easy to stash somewhere (I keep one at work) in case something 
>> comes up.
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:41:16 PM UTC-6 Dave Grossman wrote:
>>
>>> Love my cleverhood.  It stays in the bottom of the Wald on my Hunq and 
>>> is there when I need it.  Highly recommended, and they have sales often.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:59:04 PM UTC-6 Slin wrote:
>>>
 Oh wow, the Blue Lug poncho is designed to be draped over handlebars or 
 even a front basket, while still keeping the hands free to (maybe) signal.

 https://youtu.be/fLS69h0YwZA?t=194



 On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:50:41 AM UTC-8 Tim O. (Portland, OR) 
 wrote:

> Also, from my experience, it's not possible to totally re-proof the 
> carradice capes. Even if you could, it's a big pain to proof them. 
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:49:20 AM UTC-8 Tim O. (Portland, OR) 
> wrote:
>
>> I'd suggest you try to find a used Grundens poncho that riv used to 
>> sell. They're way bigger than other models, super durable, don't have an 
>> unnecessary hood. I've tried other brands, but the riv version can't be 
>> beat. 
>>
>> It's really to bad they aren't available anymore. James from Riv said 
>> he'd see if there are any extras hidden away, but I haven't heard back. 
>> I 
>> assume not. I do worry that I'll never be able to replace mine if 
>> something 
>> happens to it though!
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:50:55 AM UTC-8 a spen wrote:
>>
>>> I love a poncho when the wind allows, but when it's too blustry I 
>>> use a rain jacket and Rainlegs Chaps** (such as in the Clevercycles 
>>> link 
>>> below).  I bought my first pair from Wall Bikes in NOLA (who remembers 
>>> them? Sadly the owner retired and closed up shop) and got a good 10+ 
>>> years 
>>> out of them.  Well worth the $$ IMHO.
>>>
>>> (https://www.clevercycles.com/rainlegs-rain-chaps.html )
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> **sorry if someone mentioned these already and I missed the post
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:18:00 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I will say that it's been so long since I used a poncho that I 
 forgot about pooling. Last year I splurged and picked up a Gorewear C5 
 (
 https://blog.piaw.net/2022/09/review-gorewear-c5-shakedry-1985-jacket.html).
  
 It is amazing piece of gear, and I'm enough of a cheapskate that my 
 friends 
 were amazed that I had good things to say.

 On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:13 AM Slin  wrote:

> @Luke - Right now I use a Cleverhood because I already have it. I 
> probably wouldn't buy it again because they're so pricey and a bit 
> over-engineered (tech-fabric, and magnetic arm holes).
>
> If I were looking for a replacement, I'd look at the Carradice 
> waxed canvas, or the Blue Lug Fairweather Poncho first. But I wish 
> they 
> came in high viz colors/designs. 
> https://global.bluelug.com/fairweather-packable-rain-poncho-algae-green.html
>
>
>
> @Carlos and @Patrick - 
> http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2010-04-25/
>
> [image: yehuda.gif]
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:01:40 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I can assure you that 

[RBW] Re: WTB Albatross Bar, NYC area

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Sounds like the Albatrosses currently housed on a Clem, so not available at 
the moment. Let me know if you change your mind about the Boscos!

J. 

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:36:53 AM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:

> JS - Yeah, Mass would be a stretch and I figured shipping would cost more 
> than its worth for used bars. Thanks for reaching out.
>
> Justin - Hey that'd be great if the albatross end up being available. 
> There's someone else local checking their parts bin today for me. I'm a bit 
> dead set on going albatross, bosco's would sweep back a little too much I 
> think and id miss that little forward bend of the albas.
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:54:34 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> I'm in Brooklyn and may have a pair. But i think I loaned them to a 
>> friend. Let me see if he's still using them. If not, they're yours. 
>>
>> I def have a pair of CroMo Boscos that are the same width (55cm), just a 
>> little more rise and uprightedness. 
>>
>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:13:10 AM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Stephen, I an in Massachusetts so a bit far.  I have the cro mo version 
>>> I am no longer using.  Shipping is a bit high on a box to fit (if I could 
>>> find one). 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:17:52 PM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Been wanting to switch to less wide bar for city riding, anybody local 
>>>> have one they might like to sell? Thought Id check before I eventually end 
>>>> up ordering from riv.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for lookin!
>>>>
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Albatross Bar, NYC area

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Hi Stephen,

I'm in Brooklyn and may have a pair. But i think I loaned them to a friend. 
Let me see if he's still using them. If not, they're yours. 

I def have a pair of CroMo Boscos that are the same width (55cm), just a 
little more rise and uprightedness. 

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:13:10 AM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> Stephen, I an in Massachusetts so a bit far.  I have the cro mo version I 
> am no longer using.  Shipping is a bit high on a box to fit (if I could 
> find one). 
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:17:52 PM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:
>
>> Been wanting to switch to less wide bar for city riding, anybody local 
>> have one they might like to sell? Thought Id check before I eventually end 
>> up ordering from riv.
>>
>> Thanks for lookin!
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>

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[RBW] WTT: my Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge for your Teravail Sparwood (29 x 2.2)

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Looking to trade my Rene Herse tan sidewall Fleecer Ridge (29 x 2.2 aka 
700c x 55) for a pair of all black Teravail Sparwood 29 x 2.2 Durable black 
casing. Casing on the Herses is "Endurance Plus (Dark Tan)". Low mileage 
and in great condition. Would expect the same on the trade.

https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700c-x-55-fleecer-ridge/

https://teravail.com/products/sparwood-tire?variant=39350966091827

A specific request, I know! I'm also willing to sell the Renes if I don't 
get any trade offers. Currently mounted tubeless on a pair of Velocity 
Cliffhangers with a Shimano dynamo (also possibly for sale if price is 
right for local NYC pickup only). 

Cheers!


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[RBW] WTB - Shimano Rapid Rise RD

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I'm more curious than anything, so I don't want to spend a ton of money on 
it. But when I was at Riv a few months ago, I rode one of Will's bikes with 
a Rapid Rise RD and really enjoyed it. Does anyone have one for sale by 
chance?

Thanks-

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Re: [RBW] moisture in dynamo light - am i screwed?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I got it mounted properly and the ambient humidity has dropped considerably 
here over the last two days. Still moisture inside the light and it's not 
work at all. But I may take it off the bike and try to submerge in a bag of 
rice or silica gel. Not high hopes for it, though. 

On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 4:37:45 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Or, mount it correctly and sit it out in the sun for a while (keeping 
> close watch over the bike, since you *are* in Brooklyn). See what the 
> moisture situation looks like after it’s had a day to dry out.
>
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Sep 12, 2022, at 11:12 AM, 'Sean, PNW' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> In addition to mounting it properly, I would remove and submerge it in 
> some silica gel/rice/etc to try and draw out as much moisture as possible.
>  
>
> To my mind, continuing to use it w/internal moisture increases the odds of 
> a short and/or more significant damage.
>
> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:12:56 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy 
> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>
>> Ah! okay, yeah I had rotated it to use in the upside down position but I 
>> guess I didn't have it mounted correctly. I'll rotate it around and see if 
>> this helps. Thanks guys!
>>
>> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 12:08:57 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> It looks to be mounted upside down. The wire is supposed to come out the 
>>> bottom of the light. The light can be rotated within the housing. From 
>>> Peter Whites site:
>>>
>>> [image: B]
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:59:46 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I noticed my B IQ-X wasn't working this morning and then discovered 
>>>> there's moisture inside the body of the light itself (see pic below). 
>>>> Anyone have experience with this? Will it dry out itself or should I try 
>>>> to 
>>>> take the light apart and dry it out? Super high humidity today so I'm 
>>>> wondering if that's come into play. I can see that it's flickering when 
>>>> the 
>>>> wheel rotates so it isn't a connection issue. It just doesn't fully 
>>>> illuminate beyond the flicker. 
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG-4818.jpg]
>>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: moisture in dynamo light - am i screwed?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Ah! okay, yeah I had rotated it to use in the upside down position but I 
guess I didn't have it mounted correctly. I'll rotate it around and see if 
this helps. Thanks guys!

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 12:08:57 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> It looks to be mounted upside down. The wire is supposed to come out the 
> bottom of the light. The light can be rotated within the housing. From 
> Peter Whites site:
>
> [image: B]
>
> Laing
>
> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:59:46 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>
>> I noticed my B IQ-X wasn't working this morning and then discovered 
>> there's moisture inside the body of the light itself (see pic below). 
>> Anyone have experience with this? Will it dry out itself or should I try to 
>> take the light apart and dry it out? Super high humidity today so I'm 
>> wondering if that's come into play. I can see that it's flickering when the 
>> wheel rotates so it isn't a connection issue. It just doesn't fully 
>> illuminate beyond the flicker. 
>>
>> [image: IMG-4818.jpg]
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Which Dyno Hub?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I've had good experience with several budget Shimano hubs (never any 
issues) as well as the Panasonic hub, which I have on a cargo bike that 
sits outside year-round in rain/snow/heat/humidity. You can get them from 
Peter White and maybe some other places, too. 

https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/panahub.php

On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 9:09:10 AM UTC-4 peech1...@yahoo.com wrote:

> I have Velogical dynamo on my Sam Hillborne.  Love its elegance and the 
> fact that I didn't have to change my front wheel and hub when I wanted to 
> add dynamo lighting.  One other con to consider is the potential for 
> slipping when riding in wet conditions.  The  Velogical has provided 
> adequate light even when wet however.  Tim Petersen
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 10:19:02 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Jason:
>>
>> You’ll hear many opinions—good luck sifting through the advice you will 
>> get!
>>
>> I have both SON and Shutter Precision hubs and have not had any issues 
>> with either. My SONs have ranged from the old-style type with flanges 
>> pressed onto a center piece to the modern (and very pretty) type. I have 
>> several variations of the SP hubs on various bikes.
>>
>> If money is no object, definitely go with SON, if only because they’re so 
>> darn pretty. SP will perform just as well—I have not experienced the 
>> “roughness” that one other respondent reported.
>>
>> Based on what I’ve read about SON and their weather sealing, the biggest 
>> advantage that I know of is that they are pressure compensated; SP hubs are 
>> not. That means that if you go from a warm, dry environment directly into a 
>> cold and dry one, the SON hubs won’t draw in moisture as the air inside the 
>> hub cools. SP hubs might, but for this to be a problem, you would have to 
>> roll right out into a cold downpour. That’s an edge case for me and 
>> something that has never been a problem.
>>
>> Finally … Have you considered the Velogical dynamo? I have one on an Alex 
>> Singer, and it’s great. Pros: Cheaper than a dyno hub and wheel, very low 
>> draw, ZERO drag in the “off” position, great German engineering, works with 
>> any wheel. Cons: Sits outside on the frame, where it might be subject to 
>> damage (not a problem for me in several years of use), makes a quiet 
>> whirring noise when running, requires a small clamp to attach to the frame.
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2022, at 11:59 PM, Jason Glenn  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, all,
>>
>> I've never had a bike with a dyno hub but rode one a few months back -- 
>> thanks, Max! -- and have decided to build up a wheel -- my first wheel 
>> build, too -- with one for an Atlantis.  I know the Son 28 is the go to, 
>> and I could be convinced to use one, but I'm working on a limited budget 
>> and am wondering what people think about the alternatives out there.  My 
>> main use for the Atlantis, at least at the moment, will be commuting, 
>> running erands, etc., but I'm trying to bike as my principle form of 
>> transportation (in Los Angeles) and will be riding in the evenings and 
>> early mornings with some regularity.  Down the road, I would like to do 
>> some touring on it.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm interested in any and all suggestions/perspectives.  
>>
>> Thanks, in advance,
>> jason
>>
>> P.s. While I'm at it, happy to hear about favorite rims and spokes for 
>> the build...
>>
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[RBW] WTB: 26.0 Quill Stem for Ron's Ortho Bars

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Does anyone have a spare/extra 26.0 clamp quill stem with decent reach 
(~90-110mm)? Preferably Nitto Tallux or Technomic. This is for a temporary 
bar set up with some Ron's Ortho Bars, so I don't necessarily want to buy a 
brand  new stem. Thanks in advance!

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

gt;>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Jake/ Mustard Clem H/ Crown Heights
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 
>>>>>>>>> years ago, I think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact 
>>>>>>>>> I’ve 
>>>>>>>>> bought and sold a few small items with a couple of them…don’t me ask 
>>>>>>>>> names! 
>>>>>>>>> We could each bring a mental list of things we want to either buy or 
>>>>>>>>> sell, 
>>>>>>>>> could be fun.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Working on the Cheviot. See you next week! Come one come all.
>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>>>>>>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming 
>>>>>>>>> from Uptown. 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
>>>>>>>>> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was 
>>>>>>>>> there on a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my 
>>>>>>>>> new old 
>>>>>>>>> Ram rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
>>>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on 
>>>>>>>>>> Wednesdays so I thought I’d ask.
>>>>>>>>>> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it 
>>>>>>>>>> next week or another day.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> stephen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, got it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>>>>>>>>>>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>>>>>>>>>>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, 
>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in 
>>>>>>>>>>> Williamsburg yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was 
>>>>>>>>>>> on an 
>>>>>>>>>>> orange Cheviot headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped 
>>>>>>>>>>> chatting, 
>>>>>>>>>>> someone on an orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone 
>>>>>>>>>>> else in 
>>>>>>>>>>> the Google Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs 
>>>>>>>>>>> around NYC. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenha

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

 NY <
>>>>>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from 
>>>>>>> Uptown. 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
>>>>>>> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was 
>>>>>>> there on a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new 
>>>>>>> old 
>>>>>>> Ram rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on 
>>>>>>>> Wednesdays so I thought I’d ask.
>>>>>>>> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next 
>>>>>>>> week or another day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> stephen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Okay, got it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>>>>>>>>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>>>>>>>>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>>>>>>>>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange 
>>>>>>>>> Cheviot 
>>>>>>>>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on 
>>>>>>>>> an 
>>>>>>>>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the 
>>>>>>>>> Google 
>>>>>>>>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in 
>>>>>>>>>> Greenpoint? Say 4 or 5ish?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from 
>>>>>>>>>>> Eastern Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica 
>>>>>>>>>>> Bay 
>>>>>>>>>>> Greenway around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway 
>>>>>>>>>>> Bridge. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make 
>>>>>>>>>>>> it if everyone else could.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer 
>>>>>>>>>>>> garden in Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>>>>> UWS
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>&

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I could probably do next Wednesday. Alan, let me know if you need a 
wheelset for the new Chev. I have a fairly new Alex Adventurer 2 set with a 
Shimano dynamo up front and Deore on the rear. Currently just sitting in 
the closet. Handbuilt by Honey Wheels in Brooklyn. 

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 years ago, 
> I think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact I’ve bought and 
> sold a few small items with a couple of them…don’t me ask names! We could 
> each bring a mental list of things we want to either buy or sell, could be 
> fun.
>
> Working on the Cheviot. See you next week! Come one come all.
> Alan
>
> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
>
> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from 
> Uptown. 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was there 
> on a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new old Ram 
> rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
> -Kai
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on 
>> Wednesdays so I thought I’d ask.
>> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next week 
>> or another day.
>>
>> stephen
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, got it.
>>>
>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>>
>>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
>>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
>>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
>>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in 
>>>> Greenpoint? Say 4 or 5ish?
>>>>
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from 
>>>>> Eastern Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay 
>>>>> Greenway around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
>>>>>> everyone else could.
>>>>>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
>>>>>> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>> UWS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done 
>>>>>> the ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike 
>>>>>> lanes along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear 
>>>>>> your helmet inside :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding 
>>>>>> pass ft tilden into town.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the 
>>>>>> summer and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep 
>>>>>> things light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned 
>>>>>> e.g. 
>>>>>> "riding to b

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.

Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in Greenpoint? 
> Say 4 or 5ish?
>
> Alan
>
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>>
>> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from Eastern 
>> Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay Greenway 
>> around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>>
>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
>>> everyone else could.
>>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
>>> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>> UWS
>>>
>>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>>>
>>> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done the 
>>> ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike lanes 
>>> along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear your 
>>> helmet inside :)
>>>
>>> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding 
>>> pass ft tilden into town.
>>>
>>> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the 
>>> summer and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>>>
>>> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep 
>>> things light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned e.g. 
>>> "riding to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>>> NY) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping and 
>>>> biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
>>>>
>>>> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
>>>> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
>>>> trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
>>>> lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out 
>>>>> there. who else is up for it?
>>>>>
>>>>> -stephen
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>>>> NY wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some cruising 
>>>>>> around the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in some races 
>>>>>> with 
>>>>>> baskets and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is neutral territory 
>>>>>> for the Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good morning
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to get in on this as well.
>>>>>>> Murray Hill // Clem H
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd be in for a ride. I'm on the UWS and I have an Appaloosa.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
&g

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 

Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from Eastern 
Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay Greenway 
around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 

On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
> everyone else could.
> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>
> Alan
> UWS
>
> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>
> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done the 
> ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike lanes 
> along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear your 
> helmet inside :)
>
> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding pass 
> ft tilden into town.
>
> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the summer 
> and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>
> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep things 
> light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned e.g. 
> "riding to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
>
>
> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping and 
>> biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
>>
>> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
>> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
>> trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
>> lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
>>
>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out 
>>> there. who else is up for it?
>>>
>>> -stephen
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some cruising 
>>>> around the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in some races with 
>>>> baskets and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is neutral territory 
>>>> for the Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
>>>> -Kai
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good morning
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to get in on this as well.
>>>>> Murray Hill // Clem H
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be in for a ride. I'm on the UWS and I have an Appaloosa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've just moved up to brooklyn with a ram, would love to get in on 
>>>>>>> rides and to connect with riders here. Maybe its best to get a ride 
>>>>>>> organized through this thread first and then figure out a good way to 
>>>>>>> keep 
>>>>>>> connected? I'm up for anything from that big bridge route kai suggested 
>>>>>>> way 
>>>>>>> back to just doing a lap around prospect park. I rode out to forest 
>>>>>>> park 
>>>>>>> yesterday while the weather was nice. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -stephen
>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:15:05 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>>>>>> NY wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It’s too hot now, we’ve missed our one day of comfort…
>>>>>>>> -Kai (on the clem of late, as rosco’s brake track has worn out. 
>>>>>>>> Ram’s in the spa)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:32:07 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hey all, sorry for letting this post sl

[RBW] Re: ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping and 
biking in the Gunks this weekend. 

One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out there. 
> who else is up for it?
>
> -stephen
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some cruising 
>> around the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in some races with 
>> baskets and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is neutral territory 
>> for the Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning
>>>
>>> I'd like to get in on this as well.
>>> Murray Hill // Clem H
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jacob
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 I'd be in for a ride. I'm on the UWS and I have an Appaloosa.

 Michael


 On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> Hey,
>
> I've just moved up to brooklyn with a ram, would love to get in on 
> rides and to connect with riders here. Maybe its best to get a ride 
> organized through this thread first and then figure out a good way to 
> keep 
> connected? I'm up for anything from that big bridge route kai suggested 
> way 
> back to just doing a lap around prospect park. I rode out to forest park 
> yesterday while the weather was nice. 
>
> -stephen
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:15:05 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
> NY wrote:
>
>> It’s too hot now, we’ve missed our one day of comfort…
>> -Kai (on the clem of late, as rosco’s brake track has worn out. Ram’s 
>> in the spa)
>>
>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:32:07 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>>
>>> hey all, sorry for letting this post sleep, now that weather is 
>>> warming up i'm building up courage to commute to work!   here's the 
>>> list of 
>>> folks that responded (hope this is ok, you all posted publicly above):
>>>
>>> Adam / BedStuy / Joe Appaloosa
>>> Chase / BedStuy / Clem L & Sam
>>> Patch / E. Wiliamsburg / Quickbeam
>>> Alan / UWS /
>>> Kai / E. Williamsburg / Mixte + (bargain) Ram!
>>> Austin / ** / Roadini
>>> Minh / Park Slope / Quickbeam
>>>
>>> Now that weather is warming up, anyone want to start 
>>> arranging/proposing rides, i dunno if it needs to be super formal.  As 
>>> far 
>>> as organizing methods, any votes?  keep it in this post, create a 
>>> sub-group?   private email list?
>>>
>>> And for any new folks that didnt see this originally, feel free to 
>>> jump in, we are not trying to replace the group, but trying to create a 
>>> smaller thread for hyper-local stuff like rides, parts swap etc.  
>>>
>>> weather is breaking so lets get out there!  maybe Kai will bring 
>>> that new Ram!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 9:29:41 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Also interested! Also in Bed Stuy with my Joe Appaloosa!

 On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 11:29:45 AM UTC-5 
 chase@gmail.com wrote:

> Keep me posted if some rides get organized, for sure interested. I 
> am in Bed Stuy with a Clem L and a Sam. Sounds fun! Chase
>
> On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 6:11:40 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> I cannot do any riding with the group on a regular basis, seeing 
>> that I live about 90 miles south in Philadelphia, but if the group 
>> comes 
>> over to the NJ side for a ride or part of ride, I'd join you.  It's 
>> always 
>> nice meeting like minded people.
>>
>> Kai, I love your Roscoe mixte, and especially your homemade 
>> weaved basket.  That is art to my eyes.  
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:41:51 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. 
>> -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>>
>>> Cold rubber is fast rubber, let's shred! (says the guy with two 
>>> kids and a job that burns the present daylight hours away)
>>> I'd like to do a ride that started with a ferry across the river 
>>> to Jersey City, winding our way up to the George Washington bridge. 
>>> From 
>>> there we could head north over the Hudson bridge to the Bronx, then 
>>> weave 
>>> our way down the Harlem River and East river, crossing every bridge 

[RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Clem L complete

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Sweet bike! Just noticed your state/zip code - I'm born & raised in 
Abingdon but haven't lived there since heading off for college. Maybe I can 
take it for a spin next time I'm in town. 

On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 12:10:54 PM UTC-5 psc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Still have the Clem!   
>
> Also open to parting out to make frame/fork/headset/bottom bracket/ seat 
> post available as well! 
>
> Offers welcome!  
>
> psc...@gmail.com 
>
>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Brass Bits?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Yes, absolutely. 

On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 12:07:28 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The more important message regarding Blue Lug and other "distant" online 
> sellers, is to remind yourself to add all the fun little bits whenever you 
> are buying the bigger bits.  Absolutely every time I order something from 
> Rivendell, I try hard to remind myself what tiny things that may have 
> caught my eye: silver shifter plastic washers, brass ferrules, a roll of 
> newbaums, a hillibike sticker, etc.  Blue Lug has TONS of really great 
> stuff, just remember to add brass bits next time it's worth the effort.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 9:01:14 AM UTC-8 Justin Kennedy 
> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>
>> I love the look of the brass dust crank cap on Antonio's Susie build 
>> <https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/antonios-susie>, which got me 
>> searching for where to source it. I see Velo Orange used to stock these but 
>> are currently sold out. And I know Blue Lug 
>> <https://global.bluelug.com/bl-select-brass-crank-cap.html> has them in 
>> stock but it seems kinda crazy to order such a small part from Japan. 
>>
>> Does anyone know of other sources? What other similar brass bits elevate 
>> a bike?
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Brass Bits?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I love the look of the brass dust crank cap on Antonio's Susie build 
, which got me searching 
for where to source it. I see Velo Orange used to stock these but are 
currently sold out. And I know Blue Lug 
 has them in 
stock but it seems kinda crazy to order such a small part from Japan. 

Does anyone know of other sources? What other similar brass bits elevate a 
bike?


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[RBW] Front Derailleur Recommendation for 64 Clem L

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I'm wondering if anyone could recommend a specific front derailleur for my 
64 Clem. I took it to a local bike shop and they weren't entirely sure what 
FD to install/order b/c of the granny gear. I have a Silver 38/24 wide/low 
double with 9 Speed 12-36t on the rear. I'd prefer something simple, cheap, 
and easy, of course. Thanks in advance! 

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[RBW] FS: Schwalbe Thunder Burt // 29 x 2.1" // Pair // New/Never Used // $70 shipped

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I got a good deal on these, but meant to order the 2.25" version. Brand 
new, never unfolded or mounted. Folding bead, tubeless ready, etc. Compound 
is "TLR PaceStar." 

$70 shipped for the pair or $65 local pickup NYC. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Canti Levers // Black // Pair // $110 shipped

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

SOLD. Thanks

On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 9:43:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:

> Lightly used, a couple small scratches. $110 shipped (USPS Priority Mail) 
> or $100 local pickup NYC. 
>
> [image: FullSizeRender.jpeg]
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[RBW] Front Derailleur Clamp Size for 64 cm Clem L

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Anyone know what front derailleur clamp size I would need  to get for a 
64cm Clem L? Thanks-

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Tosco Bars 60cm - 25.4

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

FYI I was able to find a set of Toscos on here via a very generous seller. 
Thanks, Gill!

On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 9:03:17 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Yikes!! I didn't look at shipping. Yeah that would take it out of the 
> running for me too. Good luck!
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Just calculated shipping and it's $55 minimum. So that's $78 + $55 =. 
>> almost 2x more than it would be new from Riv including shipping. I think 
>> I'll wait and see if someone responds here with a use set or wait for Riv 
>> to restock. 
>>
>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:55:50 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I just looked and yes it was CL Cycle. Two people bought Billie bars 
>>> there with no issues.
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:54:34 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that might be the place were some folks bought Billie bars. I 
>>>> know they got them from Canada.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:48:57 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I saw that, but was suspicious b/c I haven't seen any other dealers 
>>>>> selling these bars. Has anyone ordered from this place and are they 
>>>>> legit? 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:45:18 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like you can find a new one from this Canadian site for a good 
>>>>>> price. 
>>>>>> https://www.clcycle.ca/en/guidon-rivendell-tosco-handlebar-60cm.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 7:28:42 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Long shot, but does anyone have a set of Toscos they're willing to 
>>>>>>> part with? Looking for 25.4 in 600mm width. Trying to get these without 
>>>>>>> buying a new stem as Riv only has the 31.8 handlebar center in stock. 
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Tosco Bars 60cm - 25.4

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Just calculated shipping and it's $55 minimum. So that's $78 + $55 =. 
almost 2x more than it would be new from Riv including shipping. I think 
I'll wait and see if someone responds here with a use set or wait for Riv 
to restock. 

On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:55:50 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I just looked and yes it was CL Cycle. Two people bought Billie bars there 
> with no issues.
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:54:34 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I think that might be the place were some folks bought Billie bars. I 
>> know they got them from Canada.
>>
>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:48:57 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>> NY) wrote:
>>
>>> I saw that, but was suspicious b/c I haven't seen any other dealers 
>>> selling these bars. Has anyone ordered from this place and are they legit? 
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:45:18 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks like you can find a new one from this Canadian site for a good 
>>>> price. 
>>>> https://www.clcycle.ca/en/guidon-rivendell-tosco-handlebar-60cm.html
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 7:28:42 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Long shot, but does anyone have a set of Toscos they're willing to 
>>>>> part with? Looking for 25.4 in 600mm width. Trying to get these without 
>>>>> buying a new stem as Riv only has the 31.8 handlebar center in stock. 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Tosco Bars 60cm - 25.4

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I saw that, but was suspicious b/c I haven't seen any other dealers selling 
these bars. Has anyone ordered from this place and are they legit? 

On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:45:18 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Looks like you can find a new one from this Canadian site for a good 
> price. 
> https://www.clcycle.ca/en/guidon-rivendell-tosco-handlebar-60cm.html
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 7:28:42 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Long shot, but does anyone have a set of Toscos they're willing to part 
>> with? Looking for 25.4 in 600mm width. Trying to get these without buying a 
>> new stem as Riv only has the 31.8 handlebar center in stock. Thanks!
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Tosco Bars 60cm - 25.4

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Long shot, but does anyone have a set of Toscos they're willing to part 
with? Looking for 25.4 in 600mm width. Trying to get these without buying a 
new stem as Riv only has the 31.8 handlebar center in stock. Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Clem L frames live 3et 8/12/21

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Andrew, what parts were you hoarding for it? I snagged a 64 Lime Olive and 
have pretty much everything I need but might want some different bars than 
I had in mind (was gonna use the Wavies from my Cheviot but something with 
a little more backsweep might be better). Also have a friend looking for a 
bunch of parts. LMK!

On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 3:44:23 PM UTC-4 Andrew Huston wrote:

> I immediately called Riv in shock. I was to the second and I just can't 
> believe the cart doesn't hold an item for 20 seconds to finalize. I also 
> called some dealers and was told that no dealer has any. I would love to be 
> proved wrong. The second issue is it seems dealers only will sell if you do 
> a build thru them. Since I already have a ton of parts i've bought, it 
> wouldn't make financial sense. 
> COVID sucks big time
>
> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 3:40:35 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Andrew, call the dealers!!!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Andrew Huston  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Truly unbelievable. Gone in less than a minute I think. I so badly 
>> wanted a lime olive and had it in cart to the last button click, then poof. 
>> Gone. 
>>
>> If anyone is sourcing parts I have a nice heap that seem to be useless 
>> now. 
>> Really hoping for a miracle. Let me know if you bought one and change 
>> your mind. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 5:07:10 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I fell in love with my blue Clem all over again when I took it on 
>>> vacation and rode it all over the north. It’s just such a good bike. So 
>>> comfortable and stretched out. I do love a Platypus, that’s for sure, but 
>>> the Clem is just special in its own right. I hope the changes made were 
>>> good ones (they will be) and that the people who most want these bikes and 
>>> will ride them are the ones who will a Clem on the day of the sale.
>>>
>>> The recent edition of Calling In Sick, Clem L edition really makes a 
>>> person extra glad to own a Clem. 
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 5:34:43 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:
>>>
 I have the following rim braked 650B Rivendells: 

 1. Custom,  
 2. small Hubbuhubbuh,  
 3. 52 Bombadil,  
 4. 52 Clementine,  
 5. Rosco Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte,  
 6. medium Rosco Baby  
 7. Keven's Cargo Bike. 

 They use a mix of VO, Velocity Quill, Velocity Atlas, Velocity 
 Cliffhanger, and Alex rims. 36, 40 and 48 hole

 Laing
 Delray Beach FL

 On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 8:16:44 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Maybe eventually, but there's a ton of Riv models running them and 
> they sell the wheels. My custom and Susie are rim-brake 650B. 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 5:13:23 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> That’s a weird choice. Rim brake 650b wheels are pretty tough to 
>> find. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Get em! The 45cm is 650B now and that LimeOlive is sweet! 
>>>
>>> Joe "don't need, still want" Bernard
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[RBW] Re: Upcoming Frame Colors for Clems

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Thanks, Johnny. That lime/olive is what I was hoping for... 

On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 11:58:08 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> The previously available blue and a lime/olive that is supposed to be 
> similar to the platypus
>
> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 8:46:06 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Will's email from Friday renewed my interest in getting a Clem L. Does 
>> anyone have intel on what the colors for the imminent frame drop and 
>> subsequent completes will be? Would be amazing if they brought back the 
>> mustard but I know that's highly unlikely
>
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[RBW] Upcoming Frame Colors for Clems

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Will's email from Friday renewed my interest in getting a Clem L. Does 
anyone have intel on what the colors for the imminent frame drop and 
subsequent completes will be? Would be amazing if they brought back the 
mustard but I know that's highly unlikely

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Re: [RBW] Handlebar/Stem pouch for Wine

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Jason - should have shown you this on Friday when I saw you but another 
option is the Tunitas Stowaway. Just got one for my Chev and can confirm 
it's strong and big enough for transporting a wine bottle.

https://www.tunitascarryall.com/product-page/stowaway



On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 7:45:13 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> Thanks for all these suggestions , Outer Shell and Randi Jo specifically 
> look up to the task
> Also , from searching the iBob group... the King Iris Cage does a good job 
> of holding a 750 securely and I can attest to this after riding 50 miles 
> with a wine bottle in mine this week.  It is snug enough to mar up the 
> label but it's super solid.
>
> On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 7:45:56 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Jason -- The Outer Shell 
>>  stem caddy 
>> easily fits a 750. Their product listing even shows a wine bottle. Image 
>> below of my bag plus wine. 
>>
>> I haven't used them but I think these bags would also work: 
>> Randi Jo Bartender Plus 
>> 
>> Road Runner Auto Pilot  
>> 
>>
>> Any of the stem bags that list they can carry a Nalgene should also fit a 
>> wine bottle. All three linked here are made in the USA. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_5296.jpg]
>> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 10:26:54 PM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:
>>
>>> If you could use your top tube:
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Repurposed-Bicycle-Handmade-Hide-Drink/dp/B015JMQIFO/
>>> Otherwise you might strap on one of these:
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/TOURBON-Canvas-Leather-Bicycle-Carrier/dp/B07JVQW85W/
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: brake location Cheviot vs Platypus

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

>
>
> Side pulls vs V brakes perhaps?
>

I think it's that exactly. Not sure if you could mount a V-brake on the 
mid-stay, or how you would  route the cables. I first thought the S bend on 
the Clem, Gus, Susie, etc was weird but have gotten used to it.

>  
>

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Anyone know what tire clearance is on a 55cm Yves/Betty? According to this, 
the larger frame can take 700x50, assuming a 650b would have a little 
more...

http://type2-clydesdale.blogspot.com/2013/09/rivendell-yves-gomez-mixte-betty-foy.html



On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 11:07:38 AM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Yves Gomez (Betty Foy)
> 55cm
> $1975
> Suffield, CT
>
> https://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/d/suffield-rivendell-mixte-yves-gomez/7353643236.html
>
> Romulus F/F/Hs/brakes
> 63cm
> $600
> San Francisco, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-63-cm-rivendell-romulus/7351906116.html

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[RBW] Re: $1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Turns our the seller backed out anyway, so it's moot at this point. Thanks 
for feedback, though. I guess the Susie is worth hanging onto. ;-)

On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 11:28:53 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Yes and Riv timelines were meaningless *before *a worldwide frames/parts 
> shortage during a bike boom. If you see a used Riv you like and you can 
> possibly justify the price, *buy it. *
>
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 7:32:56 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Supposedly, a new batch is coming late this year so I would factor that 
>> in if there's any concern about its used-ness, but if it's a local pickup 
>> (ie no shipping on top of that cost), a 'free' Silver 2pc crankset for the 
>> price of a new frameset would be alright by my COVID boom-adjusted 
>> standards! 
>>
>> On Monday, 12 July 2021 at 14:43:21 UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> There's a Susie and Cheviot on SF Bay Craigslist that are probably 
>>> optimistically priced, but a complete 45cm Clem L listed at $1600 is gone. 
>>> I'll bet they got at or near asking price, which is about what a new one 
>>> costs. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:15:38 PM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>>
>>>> Probably where the market is for the Gus + Susie right now: long 
>>>> production schedule, new Riv model so not a big used market, no real 
>>>> comparable designs so hard to find an alternative, and the people who have 
>>>> them tend to hold onto them. Maybe ask the seller if they could include 
>>>> other parts they have on or for the bike (e.g., brakes, seatpost) to take 
>>>> some of the sting out?
>>>>
>>>> --Ed C.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 9:58:31 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>>>> NY) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including bb, 
>>>>> headset, and 2-piece Silver crank 
>>>>> <https://www.rivbike.com/collections/cranks-bbs/products/crank-silver-external-low-low-double-steel-34x24-with-guard>.
>>>>>  
>>>>> It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking 
>>>>> at 
>>>>> the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color are 
>>>>> most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. What 
>>>>> do you think? 
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] $1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including bb, 
headset, and 2-piece Silver crank 
.
 
It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking at 
the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color are 
most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. What 
do you think? 

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[RBW] Re: Upcoming Riv Frames

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

There it is. Thank you!

On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 4:05:26 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:

> https://www.instagram.com/p/CNLHnTLnyWW/
>
> On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 12:21:11 PM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> I recall seeing, either from one of Will's weekly updates or a post from 
>> Grant, a rough outline of upcoming frame deliveries. I know those 
>> timeframes are often way, way off, but does anyone know where I can find 
>> that?
>>
>> Thanks-
>>
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[RBW] Upcoming Riv Frames

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I recall seeing, either from one of Will's weekly updates or a post from 
Grant, a rough outline of upcoming frame deliveries. I know those 
timeframes are often way, way off, but does anyone know where I can find 
that?

Thanks-

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Paul Components Moon Unit and Funky Monkey (1”) - silver preferred, not black, colors okay

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Hi Abe, I have a spare silver Moon Unit I can send you. It will probably 
fit in a regular envelope. I'll trade for your black one if that's cool. 
LMK and we can exchange addresses via DM. 

On Saturday, June 19, 2021 at 3:00:26 PM UTC-4 Pancake wrote:

> I’m looking for a cable hanger and straddle / yoke to work with my front 
> Racer Brake. This is for a Sam Hillborne so I need a 1” / 25.4mm hanger. 
> I’m open to other options (those peace sign cable straddles are awesome, 
> Rene Herse makes a sweet cable hanger), but my preference is for:
>
> *1 x Paul Moon Unit in silver, polished, or almost any color (but not 
> black unless it’s cheaper or local to Napa or the SF Bay Area).*
>
> *1 x Paul Funky Monkey front cable hanger, 1” diameter. Prefer silver, 
> polished, most any color, but not black.*
>
> I have a black Moon Unit and Black Funky Monkey 1” to trade if anyone 
> wants to swap their silver, polished, or color funky monkey for a black 
> one. But I’m also looking for another set (I have two bikes setup with 
> front Paul Racer brakes, but only have the black hanger and straddle for 
> now). 
>
> I have many bits and bobs for trade if that’s interesting for anyone, just 
> let me know why you’re after (brooks saddles, some handlebars and stems, 
> all sorts of random other bits).
>
> Take care,
> Abe
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Guessing the pricing reflects that it's practically NOS and a discontinued 
frame?

On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 11:35:16 AM UTC-4 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:

> Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. H 59 frameset in SF.  $1600!?!?
>
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-jose-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-59/7333934405.html
>
> On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:08:51 AM UTC-7 Al in SF wrote:
>
>> The ultimate test of whether a bike is overpriced is whether it sits 
>> around unsold for more than a month or two.
>>
>> That Saluki and Heron in North Smithfield, RI have been collecting 
>> cobwebs on Craigslist for half a year by now.
>>
>> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 6:04:02 PM UTC-7 Yankeebird wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried to buy a 2x4 lately?
>>> Does Riv have any frames in stock?
>>> How fast did the Platy's sell out?
>>>
>>> I get it, I'm a frugal penny-pinching yankee that likes to negotiate, so 
>>> Imma with you, but you know the line of how to figure out the true value of 
>>> something...
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 8:58:36 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Nice Roadini and the Clem Smith H earlier, but I wish folks would stop 
 pricing these as new with upgrades. $2k for a bike that came as a new 
 complete for under $1700 seems kinda gougy to me, even if the parts were 
 more expensive than the stock builds. Used is not new!

 Joe Bernard

 On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 5:44:26 PM UTC-7 Yankeebird wrote:

> 50cm Roadini in CT for 2000
>
> https://newlondon.craigslist.org/bik/d/stonington-rivendell-leo-roadini/7325354202.html
>
> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 8:42:25 PM UTC-4 Yankeebird wrote:
>
>> Providence CL 2 for 4300 sale, or 1 each at 2300:
>>
>> 54cm AHH with Saluki decals 2,300
>>
>> https://providence.craigslist.org/bik/d/north-smithfield-rivendell-ahh-saluki/7327534733.html
>>
>> 55cm Heron 2,300
>>
>> https://providence.craigslist.org/bik/d/north-smithfield-heron-rivendell/7327533955.html
>>
>> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 3:11:19 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Clem Smith Jr. (in grilver!)
>>> 52cm
>>> $1950
>>> San Francisco, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clemsmithjr-52cm/7331243128.html
>>>
>>> [image: clem.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot questions

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I can't comment on the 50cm Chev, but I have 700x50 tires on my 60cm with a 
Tektro R559 sidepull in the rear and there's plenty of clearance. Without 
fenders, I think you'd be fine clearing a 650bx50 on the smaller model. 
(From my experience, Riv is rather conservative on their max tire size 
recommendations.)

Not sure what your PBH is but another option would be a 45cm Clem L (48.5 
chainstays) which can fit up to 26x2.4" tires with a V-brake or cantis. 

On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 10:16:28 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> Looking at the geometry charts  it appears that the 50cm Cheviot has 45cm 
> chainstays , so short by Riv’s current standards. Also with sidepull brakes 
> (not sure how this works with room for fat tires).  Can anyone comment on 
> this?
>
> Right now I have 2 Rivs with toptubes and am fine with them.  A step thru 
> might be nice if one of these can be found..  a knee replacement and 
> bad back might make this viable.  
>
> Your info on this bike especially the tire clearance would be appreciated. 
>  I am not a fan of the long chainstay models. Fenders would not be used, I 
> ride in dry conditions. 
>
> Thank you
>
> Joel
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Yep, the Xtracycle conversion fit perfectly into the drop outs, so whatever 
previous spacing issues there were had been resolved. I *think* the chain 
length is ballpark ~175 links but it could be more. I didn't count the 
exact number b/t the two 116 link chains I used but about 1.5 chains.

On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 9:13:32 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wow! I guess a straightened rear triangle is probably irrelevant at this 
> point? Seriously cool build, how many chains did it take to reach the 
> cassette?
>
> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 2:27:51 PM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> I finally got it built up last week and it's riding great! The 26" front 
>> wheel did not work on the 52cm Clem fork. So I got a 650b up front and kept 
>> the 26" rear. It handles really well and rides like a dream. Flexy in all 
>> the right ways and places. 
>>
>> Below is a pic and here's a video of my wife and daughter riding it 
>> <https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/17870970557366927/>. Let 
>> me know if you have any questions about the build etc. 
>>
>> [image: clem-xtracycle.jpg]
>>
>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 3:17 PM Dave  wrote:
>>
>>> How'd this end up for you Justin? Tempted to try a free radical on the 
>>> back of a 650b proto-bleriotwould either be running the 650b with the 
>>> expense of the paul motolite brakes (I think that would work), or would be 
>>> buying a 26" wheel and running a mismatched 650b up front 26" in back. 
>>> Curious to hear your feedback!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 4:28:34 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy 
>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>
>>>> UPDATE. Turns out a 26" wheel on a 52 Clem L does not work with a 
>>>> regular V-brake or canti brake. There may be a way for it to work with 
>>>> some 
>>>> other set up but I'm going with the mullet set up - 650b up front and a 
>>>> 26" 
>>>> on the Xtracycle Free Radical extension. Just waiting on the new wheel to 
>>>> arrive.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 1:55:38 AM UTC-4 Nerl L. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Justin,
>>>>> I'm on a Clem 52 H, so if the fork is different from the L, then this 
>>>>> may not help.   Center to center, front axle to brake post is 10-1/2".
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, one year plus later, I'm still happily on the bars, stem 
>>>>> and saddle I got from you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Noah
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:14:55 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, since it's going to have an Xtracycle extension on the rear, 
>>>>>> that rear axle measurement doesn't matter much. i just need to know 
>>>>>> whether 
>>>>>> a 26" wheel would fit up front. So if anyone with a 52 Clem L could 
>>>>>> measure 
>>>>>> the distance from the center of your front axle to the canti/V-brake 
>>>>>> posts, 
>>>>>> that would be greatly appreciated. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:57:57 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ask any Clem owner to measure from the center of the rear axle to 
>>>>>>> the center of the brake caliper bolt, that's the magic number you need.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:36:08 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmm you're right, the Motolites are built to go the other way -- 
>>>>>>>> fitting 650b or 700c to a bike meant for 26". I currently have a cheap 
>>>>>>>> Shimano V-brake on the front. Will measure and see if there's any room 
>>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>>> losing reach. I like your canti suggestion too. I may email Riv and 
>>>>>>>> see 
>>>>>>>> what their thoughts are. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:26 AM Philip Barrett <
>>>>>>>> philipr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it helps, the 650b wheels that came off this measure as;
>>>>>>>>&

[RBW] Re: Schmidt Wire with B Lights?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Thanks, Ian. Sounds like that's the best thing to do as I'm not handy with 
solder and finding the right size connectors could be tricky. 

On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 6:46:22 PM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:

>
> If it is to run out to the tail light, the connectors from the light 
> (assuming B/Schmidt etc) require 2.8mm female spade connectors. Either 
> crimp or solder to the coaxial cable and heat shrink to insulate.  2.8mm 
> spade connectors aren't too available at hardware stores. The connectors 
> for the main light to the hub are 4.8mm (effectively 5mm) connectors, and 
> it is easy enough to find 5mm female spade connectors at most hardware 
> stores.
>
> Best thing to do would be to contact Peter White for the right connectors. 
> If you know the length of tail light run you need, he would be able to sell 
> you a complete  run, ready crimped and heat shrinked etc. Having struggled 
> with crimping those connectors and going through quite a few before 
> successful crimpage was achieved, I'd recommend going the professional 
> route. (Although my amateur wiring handywork has held up fine over a few 
> years).
>
> IanA Alberta Canada
> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 4:30:36 PM UTC-6 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
> wrote:
>
>> I bought a Schmidt dynamo coaxial wire from a local bike shop. Each end 
>> is just a single straight unadorned wire, though, with no connectors. I 
>> need to use it with B lights which have two connectors set up like the 
>> below photo from Riv 
>> <https://www.rivbike.com/collections/lights/products/schimdt-wire>. 
>>
>> Pardon my ignorance, but do I have to purchase the connectors from a 
>> speciality source or is this something I can get from a hardware store and 
>> DIY? If the latter, what exactly am I looking for? If the former, are there 
>> online sources? Thanks in advance. 
>>
>> [image: LTD-51-2_590x.jpeg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Schmidt Wire with B Lights?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I bought a Schmidt dynamo coaxial wire from a local bike shop. Each end is 
just a single straight unadorned wire, though, with no connectors. I need 
to use it with B lights which have two connectors set up like the below 
photo from Riv 
. 

Pardon my ignorance, but do I have to purchase the connectors from a 
speciality source or is this something I can get from a hardware store and 
DIY? If the latter, what exactly am I looking for? If the former, are there 
online sources? Thanks in advance. 

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[RBW] Platypus frames at Crust - all sizes

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Just an FYI in case anyone missed out the RIv sale. As of this writing, 
Crust seems to have one of each size available.

https://crustbikes.com/products/rivendell-platypus

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[RBW] WTB/ISO: Nitto Rack Nut & Bolt (daruma)

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I've somehow stripped one of the daruma bolts of my RBW51 rack. Riv is sold 
out of replacement nut/bolt and I can't find anywhere else online to order 
one. Anyone have an extra they could part with? Willing to pay $15 plus 
shipping.

Or, is there a hardware store hack?

[image: nitto_daruma_02_900_2048x.jpeg][image: rh1-20184-2_1024x1024.jpeg]

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

UPDATE. Turns out a 26" wheel on a 52 Clem L does not work with a regular 
V-brake or canti brake. There may be a way for it to work with some other 
set up but I'm going with the mullet set up - 650b up front and a 26" on 
the Xtracycle Free Radical extension. Just waiting on the new wheel to 
arrive.

On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 1:55:38 AM UTC-4 Nerl L. wrote:

> Hi Justin,
> I'm on a Clem 52 H, so if the fork is different from the L, then this may 
> not help.   Center to center, front axle to brake post is 10-1/2".
>
> By the way, one year plus later, I'm still happily on the bars, stem and 
> saddle I got from you!
>
> Best,
> Noah
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:14:55 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Well, since it's going to have an Xtracycle extension on the rear, that 
>> rear axle measurement doesn't matter much. i just need to know whether a 
>> 26" wheel would fit up front. So if anyone with a 52 Clem L could measure 
>> the distance from the center of your front axle to the canti/V-brake posts, 
>> that would be greatly appreciated. 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:57:57 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ask any Clem owner to measure from the center of the rear axle to the 
>>> center of the brake caliper bolt, that's the magic number you need.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:36:08 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm you're right, the Motolites are built to go the other way -- 
>>>> fitting 650b or 700c to a bike meant for 26". I currently have a cheap 
>>>> Shimano V-brake on the front. Will measure and see if there's any room for 
>>>> losing reach. I like your canti suggestion too. I may email Riv and see 
>>>> what their thoughts are. 
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:26 AM Philip Barrett  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If it helps, the 650b wheels that came off this measure as;
>>>>>
>>>>> Axle C to inner edge of of rim = 290mm
>>>>> Axle C to outer edge of rim = 305mm
>>>>>
>>>>> To my calculations you'll need to lose (not gain) 25mm of reach. 
>>>>> Centerpull cantilevers might get you there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Then again, for the price of a pair of Paul's you could buy a nice set 
>>>>> of 650b wheel & call it done?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:16:40 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was just looking at that posting! I'm considering upgrading my 
>>>>>> Xtracylce using this frame. Does anyone know if I can fit a 26" wheel up 
>>>>>> front, maybe using a Paul Motolite or something with lots of reach? I 
>>>>>> know 
>>>>>> the 52 is made for 650b but my current wheelset is 26" Velocity 
>>>>>> Cliffhanger 
>>>>>> and I'd rather not have to change it up. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:09:48 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Update; Bikeflights has settled the claim & the frame was donated to 
>>>>>>> a kid's bike charity. Currently up for sale on ebay with the damage 
>>>>>>> shown & 
>>>>>>> repair noted, might be a deal for someone who is OK with the condition;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/203329558177?mkevt=1=0=e11021.m43.l3160=7=osgood=4ac514ba1adb42079cd095c39e2f34f2=44128052550=RU=-1%7E1=20210401070233=11021=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:52:53 AM UTC-5 Philip Barrett wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It was through Bikeflights.com, I've used them before & they were 
>>>>>>>> excellent so here's hoping they come through. I doubt any frame 
>>>>>>>> however 
>>>>>>>> well packed would have survived whatever it was they dropped on top 
>>>>>>>> off 
>>>>>>>> this, the sides of the Secialized shipping box were actually burst! A 
>>>>>>>> carbon frame would have just snapped.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

So I bought the frame! According to James at Rivendell, the distance b/t 
the center of the front axle and the center of the canti posts on a Clem L 
52 is 263mm. I measured the distance from my center front axel to the rim 
and it's ~285mm. That's a difference of ~22mm or 2.2cm. So theoretically I 
think the 26" wheel should work. Unless I'm missing something??? Anyway, 
worst case scenario I have to buy a new 650b wheel for the front.  

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:14:55 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:

> Well, since it's going to have an Xtracycle extension on the rear, that 
> rear axle measurement doesn't matter much. i just need to know whether a 
> 26" wheel would fit up front. So if anyone with a 52 Clem L could measure 
> the distance from the center of your front axle to the canti/V-brake posts, 
> that would be greatly appreciated. 
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:57:57 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Ask any Clem owner to measure from the center of the rear axle to the 
>> center of the brake caliper bolt, that's the magic number you need.
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:36:08 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm you're right, the Motolites are built to go the other way -- fitting 
>>> 650b or 700c to a bike meant for 26". I currently have a cheap Shimano 
>>> V-brake on the front. Will measure and see if there's any room for losing 
>>> reach. I like your canti suggestion too. I may email Riv and see what their 
>>> thoughts are. 
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:26 AM Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If it helps, the 650b wheels that came off this measure as;
>>>>
>>>> Axle C to inner edge of of rim = 290mm
>>>> Axle C to outer edge of rim = 305mm
>>>>
>>>> To my calculations you'll need to lose (not gain) 25mm of reach. 
>>>> Centerpull cantilevers might get you there?
>>>>
>>>> Then again, for the price of a pair of Paul's you could buy a nice set 
>>>> of 650b wheel & call it done?
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:16:40 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy 
>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was just looking at that posting! I'm considering upgrading my 
>>>>> Xtracylce using this frame. Does anyone know if I can fit a 26" wheel up 
>>>>> front, maybe using a Paul Motolite or something with lots of reach? I 
>>>>> know 
>>>>> the 52 is made for 650b but my current wheelset is 26" Velocity 
>>>>> Cliffhanger 
>>>>> and I'd rather not have to change it up. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:09:48 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Update; Bikeflights has settled the claim & the frame was donated to 
>>>>>> a kid's bike charity. Currently up for sale on ebay with the damage 
>>>>>> shown & 
>>>>>> repair noted, might be a deal for someone who is OK with the condition;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/203329558177?mkevt=1=0=e11021.m43.l3160=7=osgood=4ac514ba1adb42079cd095c39e2f34f2=44128052550=RU=-1%7E1=20210401070233=11021=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:52:53 AM UTC-5 Philip Barrett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was through Bikeflights.com, I've used them before & they were 
>>>>>>> excellent so here's hoping they come through. I doubt any frame however 
>>>>>>> well packed would have survived whatever it was they dropped on top off 
>>>>>>> this, the sides of the Secialized shipping box were actually burst! A 
>>>>>>> carbon frame would have just snapped.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 10:54:59 AM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Phillip,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What a disappointment to discover the damage when you opened the 
>>>>>>>> box. Did Rivendell ship your Clem? I've purchased a few frames from 
>>>>>>>> them 
>>>>>>>> and the dropouts (and fork ends) were always well secured. 
>>>>>>>> Good luck and please let us know how this is resolved. 
>>>>>>&

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Well, since it's going to have an Xtracycle extension on the rear, that 
rear axle measurement doesn't matter much. i just need to know whether a 
26" wheel would fit up front. So if anyone with a 52 Clem L could measure 
the distance from the center of your front axle to the canti/V-brake posts, 
that would be greatly appreciated. 

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:57:57 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ask any Clem owner to measure from the center of the rear axle to the 
> center of the brake caliper bolt, that's the magic number you need.
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:36:08 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Hmm you're right, the Motolites are built to go the other way -- fitting 
>> 650b or 700c to a bike meant for 26". I currently have a cheap Shimano 
>> V-brake on the front. Will measure and see if there's any room for losing 
>> reach. I like your canti suggestion too. I may email Riv and see what their 
>> thoughts are. 
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:26 AM Philip Barrett  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If it helps, the 650b wheels that came off this measure as;
>>>
>>> Axle C to inner edge of of rim = 290mm
>>> Axle C to outer edge of rim = 305mm
>>>
>>> To my calculations you'll need to lose (not gain) 25mm of reach. 
>>> Centerpull cantilevers might get you there?
>>>
>>> Then again, for the price of a pair of Paul's you could buy a nice set 
>>> of 650b wheel & call it done?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:16:40 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>>> NY) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was just looking at that posting! I'm considering upgrading my 
>>>> Xtracylce using this frame. Does anyone know if I can fit a 26" wheel up 
>>>> front, maybe using a Paul Motolite or something with lots of reach? I know 
>>>> the 52 is made for 650b but my current wheelset is 26" Velocity 
>>>> Cliffhanger 
>>>> and I'd rather not have to change it up. 
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:09:48 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Update; Bikeflights has settled the claim & the frame was donated to a 
>>>>> kid's bike charity. Currently up for sale on ebay with the damage shown & 
>>>>> repair noted, might be a deal for someone who is OK with the condition;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/203329558177?mkevt=1=0=e11021.m43.l3160=7=osgood=4ac514ba1adb42079cd095c39e2f34f2=44128052550=RU=-1%7E1=20210401070233=11021=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:52:53 AM UTC-5 Philip Barrett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It was through Bikeflights.com, I've used them before & they were 
>>>>>> excellent so here's hoping they come through. I doubt any frame however 
>>>>>> well packed would have survived whatever it was they dropped on top off 
>>>>>> this, the sides of the Secialized shipping box were actually burst! A 
>>>>>> carbon frame would have just snapped.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 10:54:59 AM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phillip,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What a disappointment to discover the damage when you opened the 
>>>>>>> box. Did Rivendell ship your Clem? I've purchased a few frames from 
>>>>>>> them 
>>>>>>> and the dropouts (and fork ends) were always well secured. 
>>>>>>> Good luck and please let us know how this is resolved. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Rich in ATL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 8:10:16 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ouch. Yeah, if you can get your money back and put that baby back 
>>>>>>>> on a truck I think that's the plan. Too much drama. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:58:39 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chain stay has a pretty decent & visible bend, this one's gone the 
>>>>>>>>> journey I'm afraid?
>>&g

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I was just looking at that posting! I'm considering upgrading my Xtracylce 
using this frame. Does anyone know if I can fit a 26" wheel up front, maybe 
using a Paul Motolite or something with lots of reach? I know the 52 is 
made for 650b but my current wheelset is 26" Velocity Cliffhanger and I'd 
rather not have to change it up. 

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:09:48 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Update; Bikeflights has settled the claim & the frame was donated to a 
> kid's bike charity. Currently up for sale on ebay with the damage shown & 
> repair noted, might be a deal for someone who is OK with the condition;
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/203329558177?mkevt=1=0=e11021.m43.l3160=7=osgood=4ac514ba1adb42079cd095c39e2f34f2=44128052550=RU=-1%7E1=20210401070233=11021=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
>
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:52:53 AM UTC-5 Philip Barrett wrote:
>
>> It was through Bikeflights.com, I've used them before & they were 
>> excellent so here's hoping they come through. I doubt any frame however 
>> well packed would have survived whatever it was they dropped on top off 
>> this, the sides of the Secialized shipping box were actually burst! A 
>> carbon frame would have just snapped.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 10:54:59 AM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>
>>> Phillip,
>>>
>>> What a disappointment to discover the damage when you opened the box. 
>>> Did Rivendell ship your Clem? I've purchased a few frames from them and the 
>>> dropouts (and fork ends) were always well secured. 
>>> Good luck and please let us know how this is resolved. 
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rich in ATL
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 8:10:16 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Ouch. Yeah, if you can get your money back and put that baby back on a 
 truck I think that's the plan. Too much drama. 


 On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:58:39 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Chain stay has a pretty decent & visible bend, this one's gone the 
> journey I'm afraid?
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:56:36 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Not great! There should have been a dropout block in there so it 
>> wouldn't crush even if UPS screwed up. I'd do whatever legalities you 
>> need 
>> with them and take it to a framebuilder to reset the triangle. It's not 
>> broken, just a little bendy at the moment. 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:49:15 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well this is probably not good then eh?
>>> [image: PXL_20210315_232449669.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:42:47 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 135mm.


 On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:38:43 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> My Clem was delivered today & it looks like UPS crushed the box so 
> badly the rear triangle is bent. Does anyone have a measurement of 
> their 
> rear dropouts internal width?
>
> Good news is I bought the insurance but it's sad to see a Riv 
> destroyed like this.
>


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[RBW] Bike Navigation/GPS recommendations?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I'm looking for a simple, compact bike navigation device that I can mount 
to my bars when needed (and remove when not needed) to use on more 
complicated routes and rides. I don't care about tracking miles or speed or 
any other parameters, just directions. Does anyone have a recommendation, 
preferably on the cheaper end?

Thanks! 

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Re: [RBW] What is the seller's safety with PayPal and other payments.

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I've had several successful bikes and parts buys-and-sells on Craigslist 
(and here!) and typically use Paypal, Venmo, or cash. But definitely 
beware. Someone in NYC recently was selling a Crust Romanceur complete bike 
and had it stolen by a prospective buyer who took it for a "test ride" and 
never came back. I've also heard of companies being on the hook for 
thousands of dollars in merchandise after selling via PayPal and the buyer 
claiming fraud. 

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 10:24:20 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> As a seller on eBay I got burned. Sold a Sony camera and shipped to an 
> address the buyer requested. It turned out that eBay recommends never send 
> a package to any address other than the one on the eBay buyers account. The 
> buyer paid via CC through PayPal and opened a claim that they never bought 
> the item. eBay washed their hands of it since as far as they were concerned 
> the transaction was successfully completed. It went to PayPal and the 
> credit card company for an investigation. After 30 days the CC company 
> ruled in favor of the CC holder claiming it was fraud. As the seller I lost 
> close to a thousand. At the time I was a infrequent seller and really 
> wasn't versed in the intricacies of the eBay market place. I haven't sold 
> anything on eBay since.
>
> I think in this age it's Buyer and seller beware. There are scoundrel's on 
> both sides of the fence. 
>
> In terms of this and the iBoB group I have never had a bad experience. I 
> hope that remains the case. I have always offered PayPal as the method of 
> payment with a friends and family designation believing we are on the honor 
> system and saving folks some money. If a buyer want the G protection than 
> I'll pass that fee onto them. 
>
> Hugh
> Los Angeles, CA  
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:35:13 PM UTC-8 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> PayPal now has a third option, which I discovered last night when I paid 
>> an RBWer for a shirt: The buyer pays through Friends & Family, but pays an 
>> additional fee on their own end to preserve their buyer protection (e.g., 
>> seller pockets money then sends damaged product/product not meeting presale 
>> description/sends no merch at all). This displaces the standard seller 
>> concern (*the percentage comes out of my end!*) while allaying some of 
>> the buyer's equally valid concerns when dealing with a seller they don't 
>> know IRL (*how do I know you're not going to rob me?*)
>>
>> Most of the voiced complaints re PayPal/Venmo/Apple Pay etc. around here 
>> are those of sellers who think they've gotten burned, or who fear they 
>> might get burned. As a person who's been exclusively on the buyer end for 
>> 25 years, and who is still wrestling with eBay/PayPal over a $750 laptop 
>> that was allegedly "delivered" by FedEx (where the only evidence for a 
>> delivery is a BS FedEx delivery/tracking notice - I was standing on my 
>> porch when FedEx claims to have "delivered" it, and there was no truck), 
>> for which the commercial seller refuses to accept any liability (even 
>> though they said they didn't trust FedEx, for obviously good reason)...may 
>> I say that I think there are two sides to this issue, and I'm glad that 
>> someone with muscle is at least willing to pretend to contend for my 
>> interest. Because otherwise, I'd be out the price of a lot of bicycles, 
>> with nothing to show for it and nowhere to seek redress.
>>
>> And let's not ignore that in a lot of metro areas, there's a long history 
>> of attractive Craigslist ads as bait, placed simply to set buyers up to be 
>> mugged for the cash brought as payment for non-existant goods. In San 
>> Francisco (CL Central), the problem got so bad that the SFPD had a setup 
>> for awhile where exchange of payment/goods for CL purchases could happen 
>> under police supervision, in the parking lots of police stations.
>>
>> Sure, seller beware. But buyer beware, too. There's a reason that the 
>> latter one is a commonplace saying, and the former one isn't.
>>
>> As for "hearing of cases", I think that's a show-your-work thing. As I 
>> read it, once I send money F, it's gone; I have no way to get it back, 
>> whether the seller makes good on the transaction or not. Members of this 
>> group should note that every PayPal payment I've made to anyone here has 
>> always been F this reflects not so much my trust of people's inherent 
>> decency (only people who don't know me would think I'm like that) as my 
>> pinchpennyness, my fatalism, and my hope for intolerable social censure in 
>> the event the transaction goes south.
>>
>> One thing to consider is, if a seller isn't willing to pay the Goods & 
>> Services fee to offer protection to a buyer (a fee which they should be 
>> incorporating into the total sales price, just as would happen with a 
>> shipping fee), why should a buyer trust them? Personally, if I insisted on 
>> buying a big-ticket item from a buyer too far away for me to 

[RBW] Re: Riv-ersed Shift Levers Install

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Depending on what brake levers you have, you may not have to reverse them, 
too. My Paul and Shimano short pull levers don't jut out but my Sunrace 
linear pulls do so they kinda get in the way with the Riv-erse shifter set 
up. However I was able to scooch the shifters up the bar enough to clear 
the jut. 

On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 8:29:57 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have the same shifters on my Atlantis set up "Riv-ersed" by Rivendell 
> and I freaking love it.
>
> One thing I'd add...there's nothing in the rule book that says you can't 
> shift your rear derailer with you left hand. If you wanted to use the 
> indexing function of your current right shifter, you absolutely can. I 
> bought a single Sunrace right shifter to Riv-up a non-Riv last summer and 
> realized after I received it that I had to put it on the left side to get 
> it "inboard" style. The bike was a 1x so it was not an issue...I had a new 
> shifter cable ready to go, ran it from the left side, and never had a 
> problem with it. 
>
> In fact...I ALMOST asked Riv to run the left shifter to the rear derailer 
> and right to front when I ordered it, but I didn't want to seem like a 
> weirdo. :) 
>
> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 1:17:10 AM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> No mods needed with these, you just lose the index option on the 
>> formerly-right-rear shifter that's now your left front. The nifty thing 
>> about this setup is the normally-left-front has a nice ratcheting action 
>> like Silvers, which is great for rear shifting. Don't forget to swap the 
>> brake levers, too, so the jutting-out part is still opposite of the 
>> shifters. 
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:53:38 PM UTC-8 christian poppell wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gang,
>>>
>>> I've got the Microshift 9speed thumb shifters on Albatross bars 
>>> installed the normal way (outside, top). I'm looking for info on setting 
>>> them up on the inside like this:
>>>  
>>> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2016/06/brifter-bliss-for-swept-back-handlebars.html
>>>  
>>> 
>>>
>>> Is it just a matter of moving the left to the right and vise versa? I 
>>> recall some modification needing to be done to the Sunrace shift body, is 
>>> it the same with the Microshift?
>>>
>>> These are the levers I've got: 
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/microshift-thumb-shifters-9-speed-sl-t09
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>> Christian
>>> Berkeley, CA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I ride in Blundstones in the winter and wet weather and Vans when it's 
sunny and above ~50 or so. The Vans are super grippy on Monarchs. The 
Blundstones are fine if a little stiff and thick. It's hard to feel the 
pedal in them but they offer good wind/cold/rain protection. Crocs, 
Birkenstocks, and flipflops are great in the summer. 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:15:19 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
> the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
> $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
> with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
> of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
> suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>
> --Ed C.
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>
>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>
>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>> bother me all those years.
>>
>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Birthday Bike Build and Campout

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Great post Tim, thanks for sharing the build info and camp story & pics. 
Makes me wanna head out for an overnighter this weekend!

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:37:40 AM UTC-5 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> Thanks Leah! Hope you had a happy birthday and were able to get out for a 
> ride. The mist was great; a perfect backdrop for some early morning black 
> metal on my bluetooth speaker to go along with some black coffee.
> Mark, it really wasn't that cold. The temperature never dropped much below 
> 40F. The snow was leftovers from a blizzard that came on the same day as my 
> Susie. No need to give up a bike. Just have to find a different way to 
> justify a new bike.
>
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 7:25:57 AM UTC-6 mark etze wrote:
>
>> Too bad your Birthday is in February, that looks pretty cold.
>>
>> I owe on my taxes this year, I hope that doesn't mean I have to give up a 
>> bike.
>>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:31:10 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This story was a lot of fun to read. I can’t believe you were out there 
>>> in the snow in your Crocs with plastic bags around your feet. Also, your 
>>> friends are a blend of crazy and awesome. I’ve never bike camped (I’ve 
>>> never been the camping sort) but I almost want to after reading about how 
>>> magical it was to drink coffee in the morning mist.
>>>
>>> Happy birthday! (Mine was the 26th - cheers!)
>>> Leah 
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 4:22:46 PM UTC-8 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>>
 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:21:35 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:20:13 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:19:26 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:18:45 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>>
 And now for some pictures...

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Ultradynamico CAVA Robusto 700c x 42 $100

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

SOLD. 

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 8:38:43 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:

> Low mileage, gently used Ultradynamico CAVA Robusto 700c x 42 tires. $115 
> shipped or $100 local pickup in NYC. 
>
> [image: ultra.jpg][image: ultra-2.jpg]
>

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[RBW] WTB: Brooks C19

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

My Brooks C19 got swiped from my Xtracycle over the weekend (just the 
saddle, not the post which is Pitlock'd). Anyone have one sitting around 
they'd be up for selling? Dug out my old Abus saddle lock so this won't 
happen again...

Thanks,

Justin. 

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[RBW] Paul Racers on a Cheviot?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I've used Tektro R559's on my Cheviot from the start but was recently 
considering upgrading to something different due to a slight but annoying 
mechanical issue on the front caliper. (The release lock is stuck so in 
order to remove the front tire, I have to fully deflate and squeeze it 
between the pads.)

I noticed on Will's Staff Bikes page that he has a Paul Racer on this Chev 

 
but only up front. Guessing it's because the rear geometry wouldn't allow a 
hanger placement for a center pull?  

Has anyone else used this set up? Do Paul Racers have clearance for 700c x 
50mm tires? The tires in Will's pic look pretty wide and he's running a 
fender too so it seems like there would be plenty of room. Thoughts?

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: Nitto/Rivendell RBW52F Basket Rack

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Riv currently has about a dozen in stock FYI. 

On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 10:07:56 PM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Howdy
>
> Looking for a Nitto RBW52F Basket Rack
>
> Let me know if you have one you wouldn't mind rehoming
>
> Thanks
>
> Jared
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. L for Sale

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Frame size?

On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 1:23:07 AM UTC-5 brianma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all, 
> for I bought a Clem Smith Jr. last September and have ridden and enjoyed 
> it but now it is time to sell.  This bike has been upgraded as follows"
>
> generator hub and light
>
> better Shimano pedals
>
> better seat  Brooks B67S
>
> rivendell handle bar treatment,  shellacked bar tape and cork grips
>
> The bicycle is in very good shape 
>
> I paid $1,600 for a complete bike and the upgrades added to the cost.
>
> Asking price is $1,500 or you have a different offer.
>
> Brian Oldham
> 916-712-1609 <(916)%20712-1609>
>
> San Carlos, Ca. 
>

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[RBW] WTB: Kangaroo Pouch

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Anyone have a spare Sackville Kangaroo Pouch they're not using? Riv is and 
has been sold of them for a while. Preferably in olive or brown. Happy to 
pay original price plus shipping. 

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[RBW] FS: Kenda Flintridge 29er 700c x 45 Tires

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Purchased over the summer and barely used. Maybe 100 miles on them total. 
Black with black sidewalls. $65 shipped or $55 pickup in NYC. (For both 
tires, not individually.)

Kenda K1152 Flintridge Pro 700c GCT RHP Tubeless Ready Tire (Size: 700x45) 

https://shop.kendatire.com/Flintridge-p/212894.htm

pics: 
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Fillet Removeable Face Plate Stem 25.4 135mm FacePlater

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Purchased in October and barely used. Extension is too long for my comfort 
so I'm selling it. These are sold out on rivbike. $110 shipped or $100 
pickup in NYC. 

25.4 clamp
135mm extension

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/stems/products/stem-kajnlkhmgn5646

pics: 
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[RBW] WTB/WTT: Nitto Riv Wavie Bars (or trade for my Billie bars)

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Riv is sold out of the Wavie's. If anyone know of where else to buy or has 
a spare set they're willing to get rid of, LMK. I would also be up for 
trading a set of Billie bars for them.

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[RBW] Re: Stolen: Silver Clem L 59 SS (NYC)

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

So sorry to hear this. Was it locked up or did someone break into your apt? 
I'll keep an eye out...

On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 2:54:07 AM UTC-5 janehr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I am gonna start with the good news: Matthew Williams' post on this forum 
> about a 59 Clem Smith Jr on Craigslist Indianapolis helped me get a 
> replacement bike within a week (green H-frame Clem). Yay! Thank you, 
> Matthew and thank you, Josh in IN.
>
> Sharing the below details in case someone comes across my stolen bike:
> L-Style Clem Smith Jr., 59 cm, gray/silver frame (Serial A0A32CG0377) with 
> mostly silver polished components: Jones H-Loop bar, Paul Love Letter 
> levers, Crust/Nitto stem, White Industries crankset, Chromag Scarab pedals, 
> Eno SS Hub, SON dynamo hub, Edelux headlight, Honjo fenders, Rene Herse 
> front rack. Black components: Velocity Cliffhanger rims, Panaracer Gravel 
> King tires, Yepp rear rack, Brooks B67.
> Taken from my home in Brooklyn, NY,  November 18, 2020. 
>
> Two different Clems but both so fun! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Changing tires on Cliffhanger rims

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Weird, I've always found the Cliffhangers to be some of the easiest rims 
from which to remove/mount tires. Glad you were able to figure it out. My 
Sun CR18's have always been a pain in the ass but often depends what tires 
are going on/off. And they aren't tubeless rims. 

On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 1:46:07 PM UTC-5 Braxton Colagross wrote:

> That is indeed the trick for tubeless rims. Push the entire tire to the 
> well and then it isn't so bad to lever them off. 
>
> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 5:47:01 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> You probably are not the last one to figure this out, but you are pretty 
>> far from the first ;-P  
>>
>> Retro-folks seem cursed to figure out tubeless compatible rims on their 
>> own, one at a time.  Few appear to learn from others' travails.  
>>
>> Not even podium!  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 5:38:42 PM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>>> My local friend with a Clem L asked for some help today.  She was having 
>>> trouble getting the Continental Contact Speed tires off the cliffhanger rim 
>>> wheels of her Clem L. When I took a turn at it, I was surprised at how 
>>> difficult it is to get a lever under the tire bead. Looking at he Velocity 
>>> page, I noticed that they are advertised as close fitting and that a thin 
>>> rim tape must be used.  The wheels shipped from Walnut Creek with that rim 
>>> tape so I kept looking. 
>>>
>>> I noticed the center of the rim track was depressed from the edges, so 
>>> when I squeezed the tire so that the beads were over the center, all of a 
>>> sudden, there was space for a tire lever to get in and work. They were 
>>> tight to start with but once started, they come off like any other tire. 
>>> I've not ridden Cliffhangers but have noticed that they are mentioned here 
>>> pretty often.
>>>
>>> Am  I the last to discover this? :)
>>>
>>> Tailwinds
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Rusty Seat Tube on my Chev

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I recently installed new pedals on my Cheviot and needed to adjust the 
saddle height a tad bc the new pedals are considerably thinner than the old 
ones. I noticed considerable resistance when I was attempting to lower the 
seat so I decided to pull the entire thing out to see what's up. There was 
a moderate amount of rust near the bottom of my seat post (a Nitto S83) and 
to my horror the entire inner side of my seat tube was super rusty. 

The bike is from last spring, March 2019, back when Riv was default 
prepping frames before shipping with a coat of Boeshield inside the tubes 
and a budget seat post installed. I ride in the rain plenty but don't leave 
the bike out in the rain. The amount of rust seems a little concerning. I 
think moisture/rain is getting into the seat tube via a small gap in the 
seat lug—it's one of those super gorgeous pointy upside-down hearts that 
has peeled forward slightly. 

What should I do here? Guessing remove the post, clean up the rust, and 
re-boeshield the inside. But is there any way to seal up that gap b/t the 
pointy part of the lug and the seat post without banging and possibly 
damaging the lug? Thinking a little bit or bees wax or something around it 
could help. Any other suggestions? 

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[RBW] Re: Clem L... Awesome Handicapped Edition !!

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Wow, that's so great that you were able to set it up so that she can ride 
comfortable. Def looks like one of the old school banana seat choppers but 
much, much classier. Congrats!

On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 1:10:29 AM UTC-5 pa...@superplastic.co wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> I promised Grant a photo of the Clem L I built up for my wife, and figured 
> I'd post it here too.
>
> She's handicapped due to a genetic inflammation in her joints, and can 
> only deal with very limited weight on her forearms and wrists. We've 
> struggled for years to sort out a decent bike for her, the problem being 
> that almost all new bikes use treadless stems, and have limited bar height 
> and adjustability.
>
> Here's a picture of her Clem with the highest and shortest stem I could 
> find, plus Boscos. This is the first bike she's been able to enjoy riding 
> in ten years!! 
>
> Oddly it kind of reminds me of a chopper Schwinn I had as a teenager, but 
> grown up. 
>
> Go Rivendell!! 
>
> Love,
>
> Paul
>
> [image: IMG_1237.jpeg]
>
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[RBW] Re: Anyone interested in a Ride in NJ in October?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I would be interested, depending on the weekend. Planning to do the Nutmeg 
Nor'Easter in CT the weekend of 10/24 and of course Halloween is blocked 
off for the kiddo. Possibly 10/17 or 10/10? I'll be coming from Brooklyn, 
can meet up wherever. The Seastreak from Highlands is convenient for 
returning to the city. 

On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 7:50:07 AM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> I'd be in. I just did part of the the Henry Hudson Trail on Saturday and 
> it was great.
>
> M
>
> On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-4 Dave S wrote:
>
>>  NYC peeps can pick up the henry hudson trail or the edgar felix bikepath 
>> almost directly from the train stations.  Both are somewhat scenic with 
>> almost no elevation. Sandy Hook is great too but I think the ferry shuts 
>> down at the end of sept.  That said, you can just about ride the HHT to 
>> Sandy Hook.
>>
>>
>> https://www.co.monmouth.nj.us/documents/130/henry_hudson_trail_july_2020_web.pdf
>>
>>
>> https://www.nps.gov/gate/planyourvisit/upload/MUP_Wayside-Map_rev5July2017.pdf
>>
>> www.boblucky.com/Biking/NewJersey/Allaire.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 8:11:50 PM UTC-4 Brady Smith wrote:
>>
>>> I’d be interested, though my weekends are hit or miss. I’m in Fort Lee 
>>> but could drive anywhere. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 4:05:18 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 It won't be as big or as exciting as our wonderful Eastern ride at 
 Mohonk for Riv's 25th anniversary, but I did notice a large number of New 
 Yorkers, especially from the boroughs.  I know there are a few of us from 
 NJ, and I'm not that far, in Philadelphia.

 I'm trying to learn more routes and was thinking that perhaps someone 
 (Bob E.???) could suggest something in NJ that we could meet at a NJ 
 Transit stop, making it easier for the NY-ers.  If there are more New 
 Yorkers than others, I'm willing to drive to you (as long as there's 
 parking).  I really don't know any routes other than the ones around 
 Philadelphia.

 I can do any Saturday or Sunday in October except for Oct 9 and 10. I'm 
 older and less strong than most of you; I cannot do "Mohonk" hills. 

 Roberta

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Riv. Camping trip, NYC, seeking route advice

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Hi A, are you looking to do something for the Swift Campout? I have a 
private ride planned that weekend but we could probably fit you and your 
friend. Email me and I'll send details. justinkennedy00 at gmail dot com

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 7:21:14 PM UTC-4 lambbo wrote:

> Hi all, I'm hoping to do a two night camping trip the weekend after next 
> with a friend, on my Cheviot, leaving from NYC... Originally thought 
> Harriman night one, Fahenstock night two, and home, but just wondering if 
> there's a more interesting itinerary, either one way with the train home or 
> round trip. I think we have 60 mile days in us, give or take. 
> Would appreciate any tips, thanks!!
> A

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[RBW] Re: Ever get pulled over by police while on your bike?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 1:32:26 PM UTC-4 A. Douglas M. wrote:

> I never understood the point of arguing with an officer in these 
> situations. It only serves to prolong the incident? I also find it 
> interesting to see animosity towards people doing their job from what is 
> usually a super friendly group of people. (Cyclists and especially RBW 
> cyclists)


Agree that it's futile to argue w/them, but the animosity stems from a 
general frustration with NYPD selectively enforcing traffic laws, and 
specifically 1) not citing drivers when they kill cyclists or pedestrians 
and 2) targeting cyclists who are violating minor laws in areas where 
cyclists were recently struck through no fault of their own. Especially a 
family of three, including a 4 year old on the back of an Xtracycle, just 
trying to get home on empty streets on a Sunday night. Read plenty more 
below. 

https://www.outsideonline.com/2390493/nypds-crusade-against-cyclists

https://gothamist.com/news/nypd-cracks-down-on-cyclists-not-drivers-where-truck-driver-killed-bike-messenger

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2017/09/12/nypd-ticketing-cyclists-after-a-driver-kills-a-cyclist-is-strategy-not-targeting-victims/


 

>  


> I’ve never been pulled over on my bike in spite of doing many stop sign 
> slow rolls. I have however set up many operations where I had a law 
> enforcement officer on a bike with a radio and a marked car behind them. 
> The officer would ride and report when vehicles passed too closely in 
> violation of state law. Then the vehicle would be stopped and driver 
> educated.  Those quickly got the word out that cyclist safety was being 
> taken seriously along that busy stretch of highway. 
>
> Best,
>
> Aaron
> On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 11:16:15 AM UTC-6 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> Like Justin, I've receive 2 tickets for rolling through stop signs, in 
>> the middle of suburbia. One was riding to daily class to CSUN in Northridge 
>> CA, second one coming from a geo friends house, different neighborhood but 
>> same town. First time I refused to give the cop physical proof of my 
>> identity because I was so angry that I was being pulled over at a 4-way 
>> stop you can see 100s of yards in all directions. I think I slowed enough 
>> to stop but did not put my foot down. Threatened me with jail, so he 
>> followed me to my house and confirmed by identity with my girlfriend then 
>> wrote the ticket. Last time, like you Joel, I "matched" the identity of 
>> someone who just robbed a bank. I wrote that up on the ibob list, the list 
>> topic was "Do You Have a Name for Your Bike?"  The Schwinn Voyageur was 
>> then called the Bank Robbery Bike after that traffic stop.
>>
>> Mike ticket free Godwin in smokey SLO CA
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 4:43:23 PM UTC-7, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>> I was out today riding one of my usual routes. I had just gotten back on 
>>> the bike (my Bleriot) after stopping to adjust the angle of my Albatross 
>>> bars. I was pedaling and all of a sudden out of my mirror I saw some lights 
>>> flashing and I pulled over. I got off the bike as a very young officer 
>>> walked over to me. I asked him if I had done something wrong, maybe riding 
>>> to fast (yeah I know being a wiseass is not really a good things). He asked 
>>> me if I had just come from a street which was one I was actually heading 
>>> towards.. I told him no and explained where I had ridden. It seems some guy 
>>> asked a lady for directions, there mush have been more to it, he was on a 
>>> bike, and I fit the description I was told. I was wearing  a short sleeve 
>>> gray sweat shirts as it was an unusually chilly day today and a Rivendell 
>>> cycling cap from years ago. Another officer arrived smiling, he was the 
>>> officer in charge. I put up my hands and said it wasn't me and he started 
>>> to laugh.He explained to me they were looking for a guy in a gray members 
>>> only jacket and a baseball cap with dark hair, my hair is silver/white.
>>>
>>> We talked for a few minutes, they apologized and I said no need. I went 
>>> back on my ride and now was on that street wondering if a woman would come 
>>> out of her house chasing me.  
>>>
>>> In a way I had a good laugh but I wonder what this guy did to make this 
>>> woman call the police. This was not my town but 2 towns away in CT while I 
>>> live in MA. So something was up.
>>>
>>> So I wonder if any of you have ever been pulled over on your bike?
>>>
>>> Joel
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Ever get pulled over by police while on your bike?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

My wife, daughter, and I were coming back from a friends's house late one 
Sunday night this past February in Brooklyn. My daughter and I were on our 
Xtracycle and my wife was on her bike. Two cops pulled all three of us over 
for running a red light—it was 10p and no cars on the road and we did an 
Idaho stop (slowed down, looked all ways, and took a right on red, which is 
illegal in NYC). The cops were adamant that they were pulling us over for 
our own safety b/c there had been a spate of bicycle-car collisions in the 
neighborhood recently. I mouthed off about that being cars' fault rather 
than cyclists'. The cops were pretty much mum but still gave both my wife 
and I summonses that totaled about $490. (I sarcastically asked why they 
weren't giving my daughter one too; probably not a good look but I was 
pretty upset at the ridiculousness of the situation.) We're currently 
appealing and b/c of covid the case has been pushed back to next March. So 
it will be over a year since the actual incident. Fingers crossed the judge 
will throw it out or at least reduce it. 

On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 8:00:10 AM UTC-4 Joel wrote:

> I slow down always and stop when I cannot see far enough.  I find most but 
> not all drivers waive me through and are pretty considerate.  Then there 
> are those that have to beat a bike at a 4 way stop.  
>
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 10:05 PM 'Je Mar' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I was stopped once for blowing a stop sign in a wealthy “hills“ 
>> neighborhood of Alexandria, Virginia. I was pretty peeved even though I was 
>> “only” given a warning. 
>>
>> I stop at stop signs now, at least sufficiently to avoid another 
>> situation like that. 
>>
>> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 9:47:09 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote:
>>
>>> Perfect.  
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 8:28 PM Fullylugged  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Not pulled over, but a deputy pulled along side after I rolled through 
 one of those 8 sided signs you see at intersections and said, "You know 
 those STOP signs are for you too."  I said, "yes officer thank you for 
 reminding me." He waved and sped off.



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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

55cm Frank Jones on eBay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Frank-Jones-single-speed-bike-frame-55-limited-edition/184436176907?hash=item2af140b80b:g:QqEAAOSwfN1fVV56

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 7:11:41 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> This thread is for Rivendells you've found on eBay, CraigsList, and sites 
> beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be interested. This 
> thread isn't for posting ads to your own ad, it's just so people who are 
> searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check this out!" 
> Here are a few, from today's searches:
>
> 61cm Roadini
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>
> 58cm Quickbeam
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>
> 52cm Clementine
>
> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/richardson-rivendell-clementine/7130894748.html
>
> 65cm Redwood
>
> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-redwood/7153843392.html
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

They come in 50mm 

 
width too. 

On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 1:44:16 PM UTC-4 Ash wrote:

> Thanks Justin!  Thanks Paul!
>
> Maybe those knobs are causing an optical illusion that makes the tires 
> look wider than 42mm looking at the picture.
>
>
>
> On Friday, 28 August 2020 at 09:57:56 UTC-7 Paul Richardson wrote:
>
>> JINX!!!
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I think it's a Soma Cazadero 


On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 12:27:11 PM UTC-4 Ash wrote:

> Does anyone recognize the tire on the orange Hillborne in Danville, CA?
>
>
>
> On Friday, 28 August 2020 at 09:00:55 UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Sam Hillborne with e-bike conversion
>> 60cm 
>> 3000 
>> Bellingham, WA 
>>
>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/point-roberts-rivendell-samuel/7184801193.html
>>  
>>
>> Sam Hillborne 
>> 51cm 
>> 2600 
>> Danville, CA 
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/danville-rivendell-sam-hillborne-51cm/7179234888.html
>>  
>>
>> Romulus 
>> 56cm 
>> 1500 
>> Hayward, CA 
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/hayward-rivendell-romulus/7184853848.html
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Here's the old sizing chart for MUSA Atlantis and Homers. Looks like for 
PBH 82-83, a 53-54.5 is recommended. You could probably make it work 
though. 

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/Rivendell-2017-Sizing-Chart.png
 


On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 12:31:56 PM UTC-4 Sean B. wrote:

> Looking at the 51cm MUSA Atlantis since I'm local (Chicago). Looking for 
> geo charts, but not having luck. Does any one know if that would be good 
> for someone with a PBH of 82-83? 
>
> On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 1:19:22 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Atlantis (Waterford) 
>> 51cm 
>> 2499 
>> Chicago, IL 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/293702982295 
>>
>> Atlantis 
>> 53cm 
>> 2000 
>> Ft. Collins, CO 
>>
>> https://fortcollins.craigslist.org/bik/d/fort-collins-rivendell-atlantis/7182940024.html
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Crankset & BB Question

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Thanks Benz. It's tough to tell exactly where the pops and creaks are 
coming from but it seems to happen only during hard pedaling and kind of 
feels like it's coming from the left (non-drive side) crank arm which is 
attached with hex bolts. The whole crankset has always annoyed me, mostly 
aethetically with this hi-tech look, but I haven't bothered to tinker with 
it too much.  You're right–the Xtracylce extension could be part of the 
popping and creaking as well since it's attached pretty close to the crank 
area. I'll try to do some further investigation especially now that I know 
a crank replacement will require more than just a swap-out. 

On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 12:12:12 PM UTC-4 Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:

> Justin, I will suggest investigating what's causing the creaking and 
> popping. Quite often, what appears to be from the crank may not actually be 
> from the crank. Especially with an Xtracycle Free Radical conversion, there 
> are more opportunities for creaks and pops. Unfortunately, troubleshooting 
> such a thing is best done with a bit of experience, so you may need to 
> bring it into a shop.
>
> On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 9:01:18 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Okay thanks for the info. I'm not equipped or experienced with bottom 
>> bracket replacement which is why I was hoping to salvage what's already 
>> there and not have to remove and replace it. But maybe this is an 
>> opportunity for me to figure it out. Will need to invest in some tools I 
>> assume.
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 11:45:57 AM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:
>>
>>> Justin—
>>>
>>> To answer your last question first, no, that spindle won’t fit.
>>> Any way you look at it you would have to replace the entire bottom 
>>> bracket.
>>> The crank creaking and popping is more than likely due to the bottom 
>>> bracket itself.
>>>
>>> If you want the cheaper solution, just remove the crankset, and replace 
>>> the bottom bracket with a new BB51 or a Shimano BB-MT800.  These things are 
>>> only about $25 and can be replaced reasonably easily with the right tools.
>>>
>>> Are you dead set on the looks thing?
>>>
>>> You need to remove the bottom bracket, and replace the bottom bracket 
>>> with a square taper sealed unit like a UN-26.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/SHIMANO-BB-UN26-Square-Bracket-68x113-mm/dp/B001EIAZ7A/r
>>>
>>> If it is a dedicated mountain bike, it will need a 73mm sealed unit.  
>>> You will also need to find the right width spindle to keep the chainline at 
>>> 50mm.  Somebody on the list with a  Suzie/Wolbis might help you find a 
>>> spindle, since I’ve heard (but don’t really know for sure) that it has a 
>>> 73mm bottom bracket shell.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Crankset & BB Question

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Okay thanks for the info. I'm not equipped or experienced with bottom 
bracket replacement which is why I was hoping to salvage what's already 
there and not have to remove and replace it. But maybe this is an 
opportunity for me to figure it out. Will need to invest in some tools I 
assume.

On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 11:45:57 AM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:

> Justin—
>
> To answer your last question first, no, that spindle won’t fit.
> Any way you look at it you would have to replace the entire bottom bracket.
> The crank creaking and popping is more than likely due to the bottom 
> bracket itself.
>
> If you want the cheaper solution, just remove the crankset, and replace 
> the bottom bracket with a new BB51 or a Shimano BB-MT800.  These things are 
> only about $25 and can be replaced reasonably easily with the right tools.
>
> Are you dead set on the looks thing?
>
> You need to remove the bottom bracket, and replace the bottom bracket with 
> a square taper sealed unit like a UN-26.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/SHIMANO-BB-UN26-Square-Bracket-68x113-mm/dp/B001EIAZ7A/r
>
> If it is a dedicated mountain bike, it will need a 73mm sealed unit.  You 
> will also need to find the right width spindle to keep the chainline at 
> 50mm.  Somebody on the list with a  Suzie/Wolbis might help you find a 
> spindle, since I’ve heard (but don’t really know for sure) that it has a 
> 73mm bottom bracket shell.
>
>

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[RBW] Crankset & BB Question

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I bought a mountain bike on Craigslist and have been using it with an 
Xtracycle Free Radical conversion for a few months as a kid hauler and 
cargo bike. The crankset and bottom bracket it came with are part of the 
Shimano Hollowtech group: BB is Shimano SM-BB51 

 and 
the crank is a Shimano XT two-piece compression thing like this 

 with 
a built in spindle. I've been having some issues with the crank creaking 
and popping when I ride and would like to replace it with something simpler 
and more classic looking, like a Riv Clipper wide/low 

. 

Question is, do I have to replace the entire bottom bracket or can I use 
the SM-BB51 and install a new spindle? The current crankset has a spindle 
built in/attached.  Would this work? 

 
I'm kinda clueless when it comes to this Hollowtech stuff and not sure 
what's compatible/interchangeable. Thanks in advance. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Yep, ~$200 vs. $1500. 

On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 2:10:24 PM UTC-4, Collin A wrote:
>
> Whoops, that's an alfine...
>
> On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 11:08:39 AM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Rohloff? That's like $1500 right there
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 11:05:45 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> "The $3500 Clem L is on eBay. It's a nice bike but what on earth 
>>> justifies the price here?"
>>>
>>> Nothing. A stock complete is about $1700 and I don't see any replacement 
>>> parts on this bike to justify that bonkers upcharge. 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

The $3500 Clem L is on eBay. It's a nice bike but what on earth justifies 
the price here? 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Clem-Smith-Jr-L-52cm-Silver-Brand-New-Gorgeous-Step-thru-bike/333683014115?hash=item4db10eb9e3:g:rZwAAOSwULhfMrlx

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 7:11:41 PM UTC-4, Matthew Williams wrote:
>
> This thread is for Rivendells you've found on eBay, CraigsList, and sites 
> beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be interested. This 
> thread isn't for posting ads to your own ad, it's just so people who are 
> searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check this out!" 
> Here are a few, from today's searches:
>
> 61cm Roadini
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>
> 58cm Quickbeam
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>
> 52cm Clementine
>
> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/richardson-rivendell-clementine/7130894748.html
>
> 65cm Redwood
>
> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-redwood/7153843392.html
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 52 Clem L or 45 Clem H

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Kinda insane right?

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 52 Clem L or 45 Clem H

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

A complete Clem L 52cm for sale in Brooklyn. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDgo6qGF_JY/?igshid=ci4f2un0nkm6

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

57cm Romulus on NYC Craigslist:

https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-romulus-57cm/7170433976.html



On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 7:11:41 PM UTC-4, Matthew Williams wrote:
>
> This thread is for Rivendells you've found on eBay, CraigsList, and sites 
> beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be interested. This 
> thread isn't for posting ads to your own ad, it's just so people who are 
> searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check this out!" 
> Here are a few, from today's searches:
>
> 61cm Roadini
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>
> 58cm Quickbeam
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>
> 52cm Clementine
>
> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/richardson-rivendell-clementine/7130894748.html
>
> 65cm Redwood
>
> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-redwood/7153843392.html
>

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[RBW] WTB: Dark Realm Wald 139 Basket Bag

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Does anyone have a Dark Realm Wald 139 they're looking to part with? 
Specifically looking for a drip camo or hand-dyed color but open to others. 
Most are sold out online except pink. I know Blue Lug has the drip camo in 
stock but b/t the mark-up and the shipping, I'm not willing to pull the 
trigger. Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts on Rivendell cork grips

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I used them for years and loved them, but I've switched to ESI grips 
recently just to change things up. I put some new cork grips on my wife's 
new bike a few months ago. They're gorgeous and comfortable for commuting 
and leisure riding. They aren't soft but I wouldn't say they feel hard or 
uncomfortable in any way. The worst part IMO is you have to glue them on, 
which means if you have to change your levers, shifters, bells, etc. it can 
be a real pain in the ass and you have to essentially destroy the grips in 
the process.  

On Sunday, July 5, 2020 at 8:49:31 AM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote:
>
> Do they add comfort?  Cork may not be that soft so I am curious.  I would 
> like to use these on an albatross bar if they absorb shock (not a real 
> issue and have some flex.  I currently have my bars wrapped in tape and 
> shellacked,
>
> Thanks
> .  
>

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[RBW] PSA: NOS Wilbury frame on Connecticut Craigslist (not mine)

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Not mine, but just came across this stunning 52cm Toyo-built Wilbury 
frameset on Hartford, Conn., craigslist. It has those swoopy mid stays like 
on the new Platypus prototype. Sounds like it was never built up to a 
complete. Ask is $2000.

https://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/d/suffield-rivendell-mixte-wilbury-frame/7128077631.html

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Front Rack for Wald Basket

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

If you're looking for nothing particularly fancy, check out the Soma Lucas 
3 rack. I just put one on my Xtracycle and it's great for basket support, 
either a Wald 137 or 139. 

https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/lucas-2-mini-front-rack


On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Justin Lai wrote:
>
> I’m looking for a nice front rack for the Wald basket on my Clem. 
>
> Not looking for anything particularly fancy, as I’m planning on adding a 
> rear rack for my panniers later on once I’m commuting again. 
>
> Thanks! 

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[RBW] Re: Velocity Dyads and 50mm Tires

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Not entirely related, but I was running 50mm tires on a set of Velocity 
NoBS rims and kept getting weird flats where the tube looked like it had 
been slashed 3-4". No punctures and not your typical snakebite pinch flat 
pattern. I couldn't figure it out but Velocity said the tires were too wide 
for that rim. (Max they recommend is 45mm which is like a fifth of an inch 
smaller.) I switched to 45's and no problems. I dunno ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  Never 
figured it out but there was something going on with running too big tires 
on those rims. 

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 1:50:22 PM UTC-4, John Rinker wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
> Just wondering if anyone else has had an issue with Velocity Dyad rims 
> splitting on the sidewalls while running fatter tires. I have been running 
> some Schwalbe Marathon Mondials (28x2.0) and muy rear rim recently split. I 
> am told by Velocity (who has been very helpful, indeed) that the tires are 
> too big for these rims. 
>
> I love the tires and the rims, but perhaps I need an alternative to the 
> Dyad to run these tires. Any recommendations?
>
> Cheers,
> John
>

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[RBW] Ultradynamico Tires

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Ultradynamico just released 700c versions 
 of their tires and I'm thinking 
about ordering a pair for my 60cm Chev. Specifically I'm looking at the JFF 
Cava model, though I'm concerned by the *"Zero sidewall protection and no 
puncture protection on top for premium ride quality"* line in the 
description. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with these tires as 
all-arounders. Most of my riding is in on paved streets in an urban 
environment with the occasional trail and gravel road. 

Will they be disastrous/flat-prone on city streets? I saw in Grant's latest 
blog 

 that 
Riv will be carrying them in the near future as they move to streamline 
their tire offerings, so I feel some confidence given Riv historically 
promoting practical/anti-flat tires. But who knows? Should I consider the 
Robusto, which are slightly more expensive but at least have some sidewall 
protection? Any thoughts more than welcome.

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Re: [RBW] Re: MKS Bear Trap Pedals?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

In case you didn't see Will's email update yesterday, here are the new MKS 
bear trap pedals. Riv got 30 but only 8 left in stock as of this posting.

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/blue-lug-mks-bear-trap-xc-iii-pedals



On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 10:24:44 AM UTC-4, masmojo wrote:
>
> The bear traps are basically considered the first "mountain bike" pedals 
> and they were basically IT until Shimano came out with their DX platform 
> pedals. 
> I think most people love Bear traps until you've had them dig into the 
> back of your calf a couple times. Also the rounded part on the end tends to 
> get bashed in fairly easily. 
> It's a nice bit of nostalgia from people who are probably not old enough 
> to remember them from 1981.

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[RBW] Re: Commuter Tire for Hunq

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I love the Continental Sport Contact tire for commuting (what Riv calls the 
"basketball tire"), but I think the largest size is 700cx42. 

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 10:06:52 PM UTC-4, Dave Grossman wrote:
>
> I want to replace the 28x2 Big Ben's on my Hunq.  I use it primarily for 
> errands and commuting right now.  I was debating getting a set of Marathon 
> Supremes.  As I haven't purchased "commuter" tires in a while, I'm 
> wondering if there is something better out there.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: CroMo Bosco Handlebars

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Looks like Soma 

 has 
them in stock.  

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 4:58:33 PM UTC-4, Tim Tetrault wrote:
>
> Hi Group-
>
> I'm in the Seattle area, but I'd be willing to mail a check and wait for 
> it to clear if we were talking about a shipment, but- I am seeking a CroMo 
> Bosco bar to purchase. Riv is sold out, currently. 
>
> I'm building up a 55CM MB-1 and I have long legs and a short torso. I will 
> likely replace the stem with an original 125mm Ricthey, but the quill 
> extension is too short for me to be comfortable on there. 
>
> Let me know if you have one collecting dust,
>
> Tim
>

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Anybody recognize the tires on this bike? Grand Bois?

On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 7:11:11 PM UTC-4, Pancake wrote:
>
> New news in the most recent email blast and blug:
>
> "We have a new design, based on Cheviots, coming after Sams which should 
> be fantastic.  Here's a picture of the small Losco'd sample:
> [image: unnamed.jpg]
> Rachel, my girlfriend, who is less biased than us and will fit the bike 
> perfectly, is going to test ride it for awhile and give us feedback. It's a 
> tiny bike for me but I can tell it rides the way we want it to. It won't 
> hurt to get a second opinion though. The model name is still TBA."
> "CHEVIOT NEWS:
> The CHEVIOT as it is, is as good a bike as we make, but we've changed a 
> few things, and unlike Specialized, which still has a Stumpjumper that's a 
> billion light years away from the 1981 Stumpjumper, we don't do that. A 
> tweak, OK, sure, same name Two tweaks and we start reconsidering. It's 
> something we get to do, although it may bum out some of you. Two 
> possibilities have emerged. In alphabetical order, they are:
> Platypus 
> Winthrop-Charlene
> Vote in the subject field of an email, like this:
> Model name / Your name
> like:
> Maxwell Smart -- Winthrop-Charlene"
>
> Obviously Platypus (the headbadge will be fantastic!) 
>
> My proposed name for the next Cheviot: "Derbyshire Gritstone" (D comes 
> after C, anything ending in "stone" fits with the current naming scheme, 
> also a UK sheep like the Cheviot). Alternative sheep names:
> Debouillet (like a Rambouillet but a sheep and with a D)
> Churra (renamed to Churro in America, could print the alternate spellings 
> on either side of the downtube like the current Cheviot/Cheviut)
> More sheep breed names here: 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sheep_breeds
>
>
> Abe
>
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 6:42:42 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> It lives, it's in the new newsletter and here's the pic. I have the 
>> somewhat dubious distinction (I think) of being the first "outsider" to 
>> know about this project when Grant and Will mentioned it to me at RBW last 
>> year. So now I'll start the thread!
>>
>> It's fancy and swoopy and I dig it. I also dig the original name and 
>> decals (and sheep) so I'm adding my non-requested vote for keeping them. 
>> Check it out, it's pretty! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>> Marin County CA.  
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52 Clem H Mustard

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Hi Clayton, would you sell the boscomooses on their own? LMK!

On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 2:34:58 PM UTC-4, Clayton Scott wrote:
>
> Still have it and given what they are going for on ebay it is a deal ;-).
>
> Happy to add your choice of bullmoose, chocomoose, or boscomoose with 
> greater downslope angle to it for an etra $50.
>
> Hope you are all staying safe and sane!
>
> Clayton
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 11:08:26 AM UTC-7, Clayton Scott wrote:
>>
>> Price drop. $800. shipped to CONUS. 
>>
>> Clayton Scott
>> HBG,CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:58:02 PM UTC-7, Clayton.sf wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Have a 52cm Clem Mustard H frame (high top tube) for sale.
>>> It is in almost new condition except for a scratch in the downbube.
>>> Straight, never crashed, no rust and frame savered.
>>> One thing to note is that it takes a 27.0 seat post. This is how it came 
>>> to me straight from Rivendell HQ.
>>> I am including a Nitto Crystal Fellow (single bolt) in 27.0 250mm with 
>>> it (or a black vintage XT post 330mm also made by nitto if you need a 
>>> longer one).
>>> Headset and BB are included too.
>>> $850 shipped to CONUS. Attached some pictured of the full the build.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Clayton Scott
>>> HBG, CA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Clem H + Xtracycle

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I toyed with this idea a few months ago. Ended up finding an Xtracycle 
conversion on Craigslist for $300 attached to an old generic MTB-ish thing, 
very Clem like in geometry without the long chainstays so I'm just using 
that for the kid taxing and cargo hauling. 

Anyway, someone else on here (Hi, Ed!) who had built up a Clem-Xtracycle 
DM'd the below to me. He had tons of experience with different cargo bikes 
and his thoughts are below. 

Short version: It worked brilliantly and he fully recommended it. 

Long version (quoting from Ed here on out): "I "salvaged" a Leap kit off of 
a Tern Cargo Node, so it's not quite the retail kit but close enough. I've 
had a Dummy, a 1st gen Edgerunner, and Tern Cargo Node. I really liked the 
Dummy (regret selling it to this day...) since it was a solid bike that 
rode well with or without a load. The Edgerunner was a disappointment: a 
bit too flexy in the wrong places, and pretty "dead" for a cromoly frame. I 
could never get the fit of the Tern right with that weird Andros stem and 
the ride was dead too, though as a cargo bike it was serviceable.

The Clem build up wasn't too dramatic. The long chain stays aren't a 
problem. I wanted to run the "shorter" wheelbase slot on the leap but that 
didn't work the way the dropouts are on the Clem. The rear dropouts do work 
with the "long" wheelbase option on the Leap without interference, and I 
didn't find the bike any more unwieldy than the other longtails I've owned. 
Having a kickstand plate is an advantage and relieves stress on the top of 
the chain stay tubes. You're already familiar with the "mullet" wheelset I 
had built up: front rim hub, rear disc hub, using rim compatible Sun Rhyno 
XL rims F/R. For brakes, I ran BB7 and stock pads with a 180mm rear disc - 
with a load, 160mm may be too small - and Shimano V-brakes up front with 
Kool Stop pads. As with any longtail build, I used a full run housing to 
the rear derailleur and brake. Compressionless is best but super expensive 
so I used the pro version of Jagwire housing as an affordable alternative. (
https://jagwire.com/products/housing)

The built up bike was brilliant. It had all the characteristics of the 
Dummy in terms of handling with or without a load, but with a step 
thru/lower standover frame and a more upright, and comfortable, riding 
position. (I'd recommend the Clem L over the Cheviot for the lower 
standover.) The mullet brakes are as weird as you'd expect - different 
modulations - but easy to get used to and always plenty of stopping power.

Eventually, I did take it apart to sell the Cargo Node as a complete bike. 
I would have opted to get the retail Leap kit and rebuilt the Clem L but I 
am an old man with twins so opted for a cargo e-bike instead."



On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 11:31:28 AM UTC-4, Bones wrote:
>
> Not sure if this has been discussed here or not, but I'd like to hear 
> people's thoughts on this. I spent all of last year carrying both of my 
> kids on my Appaloosa (one in front, one in back). They are getting too big 
> for that setup now. Though I can still handle the bike with ease, I think 
> 80lbs is a bit too much for the bike, and it is only going to get worse. So 
> my options, so far as I can see, are the following:
>
> 1) Get a bike trailer (Burley or Thule or whatnot)
> 2) Big Dummy or Big Fat Dummy.
> 3) Add an Xtracycle to my Clem H
>
> I like the idea of using the Clem the most because I really don't want to 
> bring another bike or trailer into the house if I can help it, and I really 
> like the Clem. So far it has been used as a trail bike, and with a few 
> small children around, that means it doesn't get used that often. And that 
> is a job my Appaloosa can easily fill. I have no experience with the 
> Xtracycle leap kit though, so any suggestions here would be greatly 
> appreciated!
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Small Clem L, Cheviot, or other Riv Step-Thru or Mixte

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I know this is a long shot considering the popularity of these bikes in 
these sizes, but we're looking for a Riv step-thru or mixte (frame or 
complete) for my wife who is ~5'4". A 45 cm Clem L would be ideal, 
obviously, but we'd also consider a 50 cm Chev or one of the older 
step-thru or mixte frames in similar size (Clementine, Glorious, Yves 
Gomez, etc.). 

Anybody got something they've been thinking of selling or leads on online 
shops that might have something in stock? Riv is all sold out of the above 
mentioned and no clue when the next shipment of Clem or Cheviot frames will 
land. I've even thought about building up a Soma Buena Vista but not crazy 
about the color options and overall aesthetics compared to a Riv. Let me 
know if you have any other recommendations? Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Wald Bag

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I think Dave was asking about the Wald-made basket bags:

https://waldsports.com/store/bags-and-liners/



On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 9:55:12 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
> Riv's Sackville ShopSack large and medium are likely my favorite and most 
> used bags... for many things bike and not bike.
>
> Medium is great for Wald 137; Large is v. large and fits Wald large 
> basket. Durable, water resistant (water can and does go through the zipper 
> in sustained rain). I like how the newer ones have a small zip pocket 
> inside for wallet, keys, phone, etc. 
>
> Large makes for a nice overnight bag or beach bag. 
>
> Before COVID-19, I used the ShopSacks for grocery shopping. Perfect for 
> that use. 
>
> I also have a ClembaSack. It's nice for the same ShopSack reasons with the 
> limitation that the handles are just a little too short for me to pull 
> easily over my shoulder.
>
> Good luck!
> Shoji
>
>
>   
>
> On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 9:17:13 AM UTC-4, Keith Swanson wrote:
>>
>> Which are you referring to?  Aside from Riv I found Troutman and 
>> Porcelain Rocket when I searched. Thanks. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2020, at 3:36 AM, Eric Daume  wrote:
>>
>> +1 to Tim’s comments. I have the bigger one that I use all the time, and 
>> I really value it. Made in the USA too! I think these bags are both under 
>> rated and overlooked as people spend a lot more money on fancier offerings.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Monday, April 6, 2020, Tim O. (Portland, OR)  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> They're great. I have both sizes. The medium is perfect for commuting. 
>>> The large is great if you need to snag something extra at the store. They 
>>> hold up to rain pretty well, especially if they aren't packed full and you 
>>> can fold the zipper over. Not fully waterproof in sustained hard rain. Very 
>>> convenient for everyday, around town use. Most the time I just plop in the 
>>> bag without bungies. I haven't tried other basket bags, I don't have much 
>>> to compare to, but I haven't felt much need for anything else.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Tim 
>>> PDX
>>>
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