[RBW] Re: Atlantis Sizing

2022-08-16 Thread dougP
I'm also at 83.5 / 84 PBH. right on the cusp of 56 & 58 when Toyo was building them in 2003. I went with the 58 & have been happily riding it since then. Started out with a 100 mm stem & Nitto Dream bars. A few years back, I went to swept back bars & a dirt drop stem for a more upright

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Sizing

2022-08-15 Thread Brian Turner
Nah, your point was understood. This explains why when I ride my friend's 58 Toyo (with the equivalent of Billie bars), it's doable, but just to big of a frame size to try to shoehorn into my riding style. Now this discussion has me pondering a search for a 56 Toyo (last thing I need bc I

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Sizing

2022-08-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Ah dangit, I think I said that backwards. Shorter version: the original Atlantis was designed with drop/moustaches bars in mind, the size you need depends a lot on which types of bars you run. Pullbacks like Bosco or Billie? Go big! On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:46:45 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Sizing

2022-08-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Well it's all quite subjective and there's so many variables involved, which is why Grant doesn't like to post geometry charts. According to your PBH and saddle height numbers you're kinda on the cusp of 53 and 56cm on that early Atlantis page, and you have to consider that this was still deep

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Sizing

2022-08-15 Thread James
This is good to see but slightly unfortunate. There are a couple beautiful 61 cm Atlantis's for sale but as a 92PBHer, looks like I will indeed need a 64 On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 3:02:33 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > Ah, Joe the chart you referenced makes much more sense than the

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Sizing

2022-08-15 Thread luckyturnip
OP what’s your location? If close to Sacramento you’re welcome to ride my 53. > On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:46, 'Gerard Gunhouse' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote: > > Not trying add complexity to the topic. I have a 83 PBH and ride a 54.5 > (Toyo) Atlantis I purchased new from Grant back in the

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Sizing

2022-08-15 Thread 'Gerard Gunhouse' via RBW Owners Bunch
Not trying add complexity to the topic. I have a 83 PBH and ride a 54.5 (Toyo) Atlantis I purchased new from Grant back in the 2002/3 timeframe. I am not sure how long Rivendell actually made that frame size but for me it feels like a custom Cheers Gunner On Monday, August 15, 2022 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Sizing

2022-08-15 Thread luckyturnip
I agree, I have well over a fist full of seatpost on my 53 with my 79 PBH. > On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:02, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Here's an original Toyo sizing chart, this will work with Waterford models, > too. I'm shorter and would fit a 53, I think you need a 56 in these frames. > >> On

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Sizing

2022-08-15 Thread Dick Combs
Thanks, appreciate it On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:59:09 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote: > 79pbh, 31 inseam, and I own a 2004 Atlantis in size 53cm. > > On Aug 15, 2022, at 09:57, Brian Turner wrote: > >  > > I'm right there with you; 83.5 / 84 PBH, and my saddle height is around > 72-73cm. From

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Sizing

2022-08-15 Thread Dick Combs
Thanks, appreciate it On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:57:06 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm right there with you; 83.5 / 84 PBH, and my saddle height is around > 72-73cm. From what I've read and seen, you'd probably be a solid 53 on a > Toyo-built Atlantis. I've ridden a Toyo 58, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Sizing

2022-08-15 Thread luckyturnip
79pbh, 31 inseam, and I own a 2004 Atlantis in size 53cm. > On Aug 15, 2022, at 09:57, Brian Turner wrote: > >  > I'm right there with you; 83.5 / 84 PBH, and my saddle height is around > 72-73cm. From what I've read and seen, you'd probably be a solid 53 on a > Toyo-built Atlantis. I've

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Sizing

2022-08-15 Thread Brian Turner
I'm right there with you; 83.5 / 84 PBH, and my saddle height is around 72-73cm. From what I've read and seen, you'd probably be a solid 53 on a Toyo-built Atlantis. I've ridden a Toyo 58, and while I found it comfortable to ride, it was really only because it had skinny tires and swept-back

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing?

2013-08-29 Thread Hugh Smitham
This is what I suspected as I saw an Atlantis with a declared size of 55 cm so it's probably a 54.5 cm variety. Thanks Mike Jim, just so's ya know I always check you're site for answers first. A great site indeed. ~Hugh On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Cyclofiend Jim

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing?

2013-08-29 Thread dougP
The chart that Jim posted is the one I have that shows a 54.5 cm. My other chart just has wider ranges for the 53 56. Must have been a reason for the 54.5 to be added. dougP On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:06:55 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: This is what I suspected as I saw an Atlantis

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing?

2013-08-28 Thread Mike Schiller
Hugh only made a 54.5 and 56. here is the geo chart https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0 mike On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 8:59:27 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Hey Rivendell folk, does anyone know when Riv made a 55 cm Atlantis?

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing?

2013-08-28 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Historical references here: http://cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/atlantis/atl_flyer2-05.jpg via the Atlantis page - http://cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/atlantis/ - Jim On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:15:41 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: Hugh only made a 54.5 and 56. here is the geo chart

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-04 Thread happyriding
On Apr 3, 11:55 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: This has the geometry up to 68:http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html I knew you must have that chart on your site somewhere, but I looked everywhere, and I couldn't find it. Even knowing the link, I still can't find it when I

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-04 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/4/10 7:23 AM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 3, 11:55 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: This has the geometry up to 68:http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html I knew you must have that chart on your site somewhere, but I looked everywhere, and I

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-04 Thread happyriding
On Apr 4, 11:13 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: I knew you must have that chart on your site somewhere, but I looked everywhere, and I couldn't find it.  Even knowing the link, I still can't find it when I start from your home page. It's linked off of the Cyclofiend:RBW page

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-04 Thread happyriding
Wow. I read that article about the guy who did fully loaded touring on his Quickbeam--in the middle of the winter! Amazing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread Jack
I have an Atlantis brochure from about 2003 and it lists a 64cm frame, but I don't know when they stopped offering them. A few months ago I talked to guy on a 68cm Atlantis. That was a huge bike! Used frames come up from time to time, that's how I got mine. It's a 56cm, probably a more common

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread happyriding
On Apr 3, 11:11 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I have been idly thinking about looking for a used Atlantis frame to build up.  When I look at the Riv web site I know longer have a link to the pdf geometry chart, and the Atlantis page only lists sizes up to 61.  Didn't they once make a

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread happyriding
On Apr 3, 3:57 pm, John Stoesser jstoes...@comcast.net wrote: About 2-4 weeks ago there was a 68cm Atlantis offered on ebay. The owner wanted $2600 as a buy-it-now. I called RBW and spoke to them about a 68cm about 2 years ago. They had one in stock. I didn't pull the trigger. Kept lurking

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread happyriding
On Apr 3, 6:52 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:  I have the .pdf file though.  I'll send it to you. Or you can see most of the numbers on Peter White's website: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/atlantis.asp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread newenglandbike
That's not really true and here's why: Custom Waterfords are a great deal, but the closest thing to an Atlantis that Waterford offers as a base to customize is the 'Adventure Cycle',and it costs $1800 for the frame, and $350 for the fork.That doesn't include mid-stay rack braze-ons and

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread rperks
That is precisely why I jumped on the Roadeo, if the geometry and design comes close to your wishes, the RIvendells coming out of Waterford are relatively a deal. Yes you can get a better price from some of the smaller builders, but if you can find the bike you are looking for through Riv, then I

RE: [RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread John Stoesser
How is that Waterford working out for you? Have you done any loaded touring on it? I literally just picked it up today. I took it for a short ride prior to heading out to play at church this pm. So far I'm blown awayspeechless. I thought about going that route. The pipes used for the

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread happyriding
On Apr 3, 7:12 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: That's not really true and here's why: Custom Waterfords are a great deal, but the closest thing to an Atlantis that Waterford offers as a base to customize is the 'Adventure Cycle',    and it costs $1800 for the frame, and $350

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2010-04-03 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/3/10 4:52 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 3, 11:11 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I have been idly thinking about looking for a used Atlantis frame to build up.  When I look at the Riv web site I know longer have a link to the pdf geometry chart, and the

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-06 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
And I wonder if they would consider creating a waiting list--once X people plunk down deposits, an order goes off to Japan. To some extent, that's how it works now. On any given day of the year, you can call Riv (or your favorite Riv dealer) to order a frame, and much of the time, your

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-06 Thread Elfardo
Noo! -Clif no longer a future owner of a 68cm Atlantis Wright So I emailed John at Rivendell asking about Atlantis sizing and he confirmed that the Atlantis will top out at 61cm. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-06 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Clif: Seriously, if you really want one, I can make it happen for you. On Jan 6, 9:29 am, Elfardo clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Noo! -Clif no longer a future owner of a 68cm Atlantis Wright So I emailed John at Rivendell asking about Atlantis sizing and he confirmed that

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-06 Thread Elfardo
Wow. Thanks Jim. I'm not ready financially yet but when I am I'll contact you to see if the offer stands. Thanks again! On Jan 6, 9:33 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Clif: Seriously, if you really want one, I can make it happen for you. On Jan 6, 9:29 am, Elfardo

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-05 Thread Mike
So I emailed John at Rivendell asking about Atlantis sizing and he confirmed that the Atlantis will top out at 61cm. The bigger sizes didn't sell very welll and they're thinking the Bombadil could fill in the gap. I guess that makes sense in these tight times when a small business can't have

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-04 Thread Brooklyn
Well, I am glad I got my 64 cm Atlantis a year anda half ago. It is perfiect. Regards, David On Jan 3 6:03 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 17:07 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM, erik jensen radiophonicworks...@gmail.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-03 Thread James Warren
Here's my guess: Tall people who are ready to order a 64 cm or 68 cm Atlantis are perhaps changing their minds and going to the 60 cm or 64 cm Bombadil. I hope that's the reason. -Jim On Jan 3, 2009, at 8:27 AM, z-man wrote: After posting a comment on the Sam as a Mtn bike I checked out

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-03 Thread erik jensen
yes, this is sad indeed if true. I'm glad I got my 66cm before such a change, it's easily my favorite and most useful bicycle. erik On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 1:27 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote: Here's my guess: Tall people who are ready to order a 64 cm or 68 cm Atlantis are

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-03 Thread Ethan
Very sad indeed. The biggest reason I went with an Atlantis is because it was the only bike I could find that felt right for touring. I'm just about 6' 2 but I have a 37 PBH and a 66 or 64cm Atlantis was the only way to go for me (I went with the 66 which has been working out fine even if it

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-03 Thread Mike
I'm at work and can't view the Rivendell website as it doesn't work with the outdated version of Explorer that I'm stuck using. Has Rivendell discontinued the 64cm Atlantis? I noticed this morning that the cost has gone up significantly although I doubt their profit margin has gone up along with

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-03 Thread z-man
I have a 67 AHH set-up as a rando-type bike, but an Atlantis can take some big rubber. I like the B-dil but that double top tube-I don't know. I wouldn't even get that on a 69 AHH-not necessary. Maybe on some future run they will bring in the 64-66-68 Atlantis. A 61 might make a decent mtn bike

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-03 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I don't like to self-promote too much, but...I have a 68 Atlantis from a recent production run in stock. This is the one with the seat tube panel, kickstand plate, and various convenient rack braze-ons, etc. Jim On Jan 3, 1:47 pm, z-man zeid...@optonline.com wrote: I have a 67 AHH set-up as a

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-03 Thread erik jensen
I believe that the atlantis and bombadil are very different bicycles, for a variety of reasons--the geometries have significant differences, and while a mountain bike has advantages in certain loaded touring situations it hardly seems the refined bicycle that really made the atlantis a standout. I

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-03 Thread EricP
I'm hoping it isn't due to shipping charges. Wasn't it mentioned on this list early in the year that shipping larger frames has become prohibitively expensive? Could have sworn to reading about that someplace. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jan 3, 2:22�pm, erik jensen radiophonicworks...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-03 Thread erik jensen
I seems unlikely that would be at cause, since any price difference would be incumbent upon the buyer of the frame and still would be unlikely to make things prohibitively expensive (especially considering the frames are now selling for 2K). Cheers, erik On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 3:50 PM, EricP

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-03 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM, erik jensen radiophonicworks...@gmail.com wrote: I seems unlikely that would be at cause, since any price difference would be incumbent upon the buyer of the frame and still would be unlikely to make things prohibitively expensive (especially considering the

[RBW] Re: Atlantis sizing

2009-01-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 17:07 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM, erik jensen radiophonicworks...@gmail.com wrote: I seems unlikely that would be at cause, since any price difference would be incumbent upon the buyer of the frame and still would be unlikely to make