Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Thanks Ed. I agree that the Hunq is a comfy ride for sure. I love it. My pic is a few replies back from here. Build is: XT 1x11 165mm XT cranks XT hydros with 203/180 rotors Thomson setback Loop bars Selle Anatomica Titanico X Velocity Dually with Hope Fatsno Evo 4 front and XT rear

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Hi Geeter, Sorry to hear that you have to go thru surgery because of your disc issues. I just got lucky that I only required rest, therapy and visits to a chiropractor to help me recover. After my slip disc recovery, I actually felt better riding my Hunqapillar versus walking. There is

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Ed, I bought a Hunq and now built the Jones because of my disc issues. I recently had a microdiscectomy/laminectomy on L5/S1 and I really want to continue riding all day like I used to. I am considering selling my road and cross bikes for good because I don't know when or if I will want to

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I have not ridden the Hunq, but it was my Jones Plus that set me on the path to Rivendell. In 2015, I rode most of the Great Divide route on a Salsa Fargo. It was okay, but even the XL frame was not a great fit for me, given the long days in the saddle. Last year I built up a Jones Plus and

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Thanks Philip! :-) This is coming from a Riv rider transitioning from 51 Atlantis (Albatross, used in my 2016 TransAm) ---> 55 Cheviot (Albatross, but too big) ---> 50 Cheviot (Albatross, good fit) ---> 48 Hunqapillar (ahearne bars, perfect fit) :-) On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Philip Kim

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Glad to hear you are enjoying it Ed! The ahearne bars are great for that bike! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Hello Keith, Thank you for taking time for giving your experience and recommendation on the spaceframe. The stable ride of the plus and vertical compliance without the use of suspension made me seriously consider the Jones frame. I recently bought my 48 Hunqapillar from Philip for my do it all

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Ed, forgive me for interjecting and for not directly answering your question, but I wanted to say that if Jeff and you think that the 23" spaceframe will fit, you are extremely lucky and should consider it. I have the regular spaceframe in the equivalent of the next size up, and could not

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Nice! Yes the ahearne bars are awesome. I've been messaging dstein back and forth as we're the same size. I think a 24" will fit but not sure I would buy one yet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

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Hi Philip, I would appreciate if you could provide feedback on how the 24" Jones Plus fits you. I sent them an email on their sizing recommendation based on my 5' 5" height and 79cm pbh and they suggested a Jones 23" Spaceframe Plus 148 TA. PS I finished building up your 48 Hunqapillar and used

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Tubed for me, though I can't see how it would affect this, if I was running the same pressure. On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > It's really interesting how different the experiences are with similar > equipment... Eric I'm definitely getting what you

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

It's really interesting how different the experiences are with similar equipment... Eric I'm definitely getting what you describe. Did you go tubeless or tubed? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

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I had the exact same experience with 2.35" Big Ones on a 45mm Scraper rim. Very jerky, digital steering. Put 3" knobbies back on and all was well. Eric On Thursday, May 18, 2017, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > Philip we need to catch up for coffee and get you on my 24" Jones Plus >

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I am using the 2.35” G-Ones on RaceFace ARC 45’s. I run them tubeless. Honestly I felt that the 3” maxis chronicles I have on there are too squirmy and handled poorly on pavement (particularly downhill) but mostly because they’re run at such a low pressure (10 psi). On this second wheelset w/

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Philip we need to catch up for coffee and get you on my 24" Jones Plus sometime soon. I'm around next week, hit me up off list if you want to give it a try. David are you using the 2.35" G-Ones on your Jones Plus? I have the Schwable 'Big Ones' 2.35" slicks on mine right now and I'm not a fan.

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

ahh great info thanks! emailed jones and they said it's fine, but they pointed me towards the spaceframe if i had any concerns. glad the 24" plus fits well. might be a good 27+ candidatE? On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 1:02:57 PM UTC-4, dstein wrote: > > I have a 48cm hunq and a 24" jones plus.

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I have a 48cm hunq and a 24" jones plus. The hunq was my 'original' mtn bike, now the jones isfits fine. it's so well designed that it doesn't feel that big when you're in it at all, but if you look at it it is huge, especially compared to my small hunq with 26" wheels. the only times it

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

any smaller riders on a jones? having rode a 48cm Hunq, curious how the jones fits, as well as if the 29+ wheels are too big. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

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Nice! I just got some g-ones for my jones and love them. A little slippery on one ride i went on recently but otherwise do fantastic on the roads and most other trails. Happy riding. On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Geeter wrote: > Built! Ride report in the near future! > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Will do! On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 6:42:16 PM UTC-5, dstein wrote: > > Awesome, excited to see the spaceframe built up and hear how you like it. > > On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Geeter > wrote: > >> To revive my old thread, I love my Hunq. I also decided to sell my

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Awesome, excited to see the spaceframe built up and hear how you like it. On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Geeter wrote: > To revive my old thread, I love my Hunq. I also decided to sell my > titanium hardtail (it is available!) and get a spaceframe. I will update > when I

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

To revive my old thread, I love my Hunq. I also decided to sell my titanium hardtail (it is available!) and get a spaceframe. I will update when I get the build going! On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 7:18:45 PM UTC-6, Christopher Cote wrote: > > I just may take you up on that offer! > > On

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I just may take you up on that offer! On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 7:56:42 PM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote: > > 25" steel 135 rear 150 front titanium forked Rohloff modded Plus in > Northern VT open for test rides. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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Holy Daniel! That sounds like the dream bike! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Daniel Jackson > wrote: > > 25" steel 135 rear 150 front titanium forked Rohloff modded Plus in Northern > VT open for test rides. > > -- > You received this

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25" steel 135 rear 150 front titanium forked Rohloff modded Plus in Northern VT open for test rides. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I'd love to ride a Jones Plus, too. I'm in Baltimore. Anyone with a Plus nearby? I also get up to the NE pretty often, and I'll be in Exeter, NH for a week this June. I contacted Jeff to see if he knows if any demos are 'round these parts, but it doesn't look good based on the searches I've

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I'm in southern Maine, near Portland. Too far from Ohio, but thanks anyway. Yeah, the front hub on the Jones 135 is unnerving. At least there's a few 150mm hub options and an increasing supply of fat bikes out there to support that standard. It's the 148 on the new bike that worries me. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Where are you located? There's a tiny chance someone has a Jones near you... you're welcome to test ride my 25" Plus model, if you're near Central Ohio. Regarding hub standards, the older QR Jones uses a 142mm through axle *front* disc spaced hub on the front fork. Good luck finding one of those

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

The Stache to me feels much like my Krampus of days past. See above for my comparison of Krampus and Jones Plus. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

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I'm sure it would be, if that's what effect lowering the trail has. I just don't know. There's no dealer for Jones anywhere near here, and finding one to try is not likely to happen. It's a big investment to buy one just to find out. That's why I'm posting here, to learn from Jones owners. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I'm sure it would be. On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 3:37:28 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > On 12/21/2016 03:34 PM, Christopher Cote wrote: > > Thanks for the response! I haven't ridden a low trail bike, so I > > really can't say how trail influences the ride. I do know exactly

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

On 12/21/2016 03:34 PM, Christopher Cote wrote: Thanks for the response! I haven't ridden a low trail bike, so I really can't say how trail influences the ride. I do know exactly what you're saying about the trail effects of fat tires, though. By the numbers, my Wednesday already has well

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Thanks for the response! I haven't ridden a low trail bike, so I really can't say how trail influences the ride. I do know exactly what you're saying about the trail effects of fat tires, though. By the numbers, my Wednesday already has well over 100mm of trail. Add the extremely low tire

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I'm curious to find out if anybody has a ride comparison between the Jones and a Trek Stache or a Niner Ros 9+, which are bikes I have ridden. I find both those to be quite playful on the singletrack and just all around fun bikes. I'm curious how the long chainstays feel riding singletrack with

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Christopher, *Regarding the low trail of the Jones:* Don't let this worry you. One of the reasons he designs it this way is precisely because his bikes have always intended to use fatter tires than the rest of the industry. The low trail geometry compensates for the mysterious but very real

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

This is a timely thread for me. I've been considering a Jones Plus. I definitely want a bike that fits 29x3" tires. I was considering the Krampus, but Jeff Jones' designs and fit philosophy really meshes with my experiences. I have a Surly Wednesday fat bike that I bought to ride on the snow,

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Bill, I rode a friend's 25" Jones Plus on singletrack, and it felt fine, but larger than I needed. I'm 5'11" with a 76cm SH, and would definitely go for the 24". Fun bike. Also have a Hunqa. Different for sure! Jones is more dirt oriented, but you strangely sit straight up on it. It feels like

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I have a regular 29 Jones spaceframe, and can't comment on the Plus other than to extrapolate (Jeff intended the two bikes - 24" Plus is equivalent to the 23" 29 - to encourage/accommodate the same fit and riding position). I'm 6'-2" with proportionally long torso / short legs. Regarding

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Splendid. I think I get it. Since I'm smack dab in the middle of the range of heights for a medium, I'll take a wild guess that Jeff would put me on a medium. ;-) It's a fantastically cool bike, from my perspective. If I buy one someday, I'll be sure to ride one first and/or talk to Jeff.

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Bill, I talked to Jeff about it. He asked for my PBH and height. He knew what to put me on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Eric explained how the Jones designs accommodates a range of riders in a single size, and Geeter pointed out that there's a Small (23") to go with the Medium (24") and the Large (25"). That's all very good, but still not what I was asking. I was asking how one chooses a size or how Jones

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

There was some discussion on MTBR in regards to truss vs unicrown. Believe consensus was that there is slightly better breaking performance on the Truss due to less flex but that the unicrown is more than adequate. On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 8:11:32 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > For

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Glen, a 26x5" (4.3" actual) wheel fits in the front. But that wheel, from my Pugsley needs special, custom-made washers (thanks pal Eric Liefeld, CEO of Liefeld Fabrications Inc) to make the 135mm hub fit in the weird 142mm Jones' spacing. My primary complaint about the JP is the weird front

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

For those of you with a Plus, can you run it with really fat 27.5 or 26 wheels as a snow bike? Mojo, have you ridden technical single track (Fruita or Moab) on it and if so how did it do? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

All this talk makes me feel that getting rid of my Jones may be a mistake. (shameless plug for current sale ;) I don't ride the Plus and the Diamond 29 only comes in a 23". When spending this amount of money on a bike and being told one size (or two) fits a range, it's hard not to be

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Bill, Jones now has a 23" spaceframe plus for riders too short for the 24" plus. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Bill asked more specifically about the Jones fit. I think there's two things that let the Jones fit a wide variety of sizes: - the seat tube is very slack, so a taller rider moves back more, increasing reach - the Jones H bar allow a big range of reach adjustment, so lots of room to find a

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I have the 24" and am on the short side at 5'7" and it fits great. Never thought twice about it once I got it (and I way overthought it before ordering, and was put off by this the longest time till I rode someones Jones). This is from a dirtrag article, I'm sure Jeff has some blurb somewhere as

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I've wondered the same thing in regards to how does one individual fit themselves to a Jones bike. I don't have any experience with BMX bikes (or the Jones for that matter) but rode 26" wheel Schwinn cruisers for years. Several of my friends rode them as well. There was over 12" difference in

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Eric reported: "I'm 6'3", 36" PBH, and fit quite well on a 25" Jones Plus (now "Jones Large"). It's one of the most comfortable bikes I've owned, maybe THE most comfortable." Thanks for responding. It's very good that you are comfortable on your Jones Plus, but I was asking more about fit

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Bill, I wrote a JP review back in July 2015. https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/internet-bob/v92_t69-FYQ I am 72.5 inches tall with an 89 PBH. I like my 25 inch Jones Plus. It is big for me but that hasn't caused any problems for me. Jeff Jones of similar height chooses the 24 but rides

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Bill L asked: who fits on a Jones I'm 6'3", 36" PBH, and fit quite well on a 25" Jones Plus (now "Jones Large"). It's one of the most comfortable bikes I've owned, maybe THE most comfortable. I've had my Jones for almost a year. Here's a mid point write up:

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

To the Jones Plus lovers: How does "fitting" work? The glaringly obvious difference between the Jones Plus and the Hunqapillar on-paper is that the Jones comes in two sizes and the Hunqapillar comes in ELEVEN. What PBH ranges can ride a Jones Plus? I'm probably fine because I'm a 5'10" man

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Daniel and Joe-- Yeah, it seems like a Jones Plus may be in my future! Going to have to pinch some pennies for that day to come, though--maybe by next fall unless a used one shows up somewhere (unlikely). Luckily, the Krampus may not stand up when A-B'd with the Jones Plus, but it's still a

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I'll jump in here. I have ridden the Jones Plus for 18 months and a Krampus for an afternoon. There is no comparison. The Jones' handling is fast and nimble. It climbs like no other bike. The Jones has numerous design features that work together for its unique (to me) handling. The shallow head

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Dear Bob, I transitioned from a Krampus to my Plus. The similarity between the two ends at the 29+ platform. The Plus is a mature, well thought out design with geometry optimized for the large footprint; the Krampus is a 29er with a yoke designed to clear 3" tires - nothing more. Where the

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Hi Geeter, Unsure of what you mean here by "hold up to the Hunq as a commuter." I could see you might mean: 1. Handle luggage - I disagree. The Jones definitely handles several types of loads with applomb and, because of its front end geometry, I beloeve actually handles a front load better

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 6:31:19 PM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > Clayton and Daniel - thanks! Both of your responses just make me want to > get out and test ride a Jones sometime soon... I found a semi-local shop > that actually has a diamond frame for rent so I think i'll be able

Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I wish I could get my mitts on a Jones Plus for a test ride! I love my new-to-me Krampus, but I can't help but feel like the Jones is my grail bike. I keep hearing and reading that it essentially defies categorization in all the right ways. I also hear that it's fantastic for long rides, on or off

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 6:31:19 PM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > Clayton and Daniel - thanks! Both of your responses just make me want to > get out and test ride a Jones sometime soon... I found a semi-local shop > that actually has a diamond frame for rent so I think i'll be able

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Another factor I have been considering, as Daniel mentions, is the tech differences between the two. The Riv would surely be a much easier bike to fix on the fly and cheaply if necessary. The EBB, 135 or 150 front hub (and boost rear of the new plus), thru axles all have their purpose but I

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Thanks for the feedback thus far. My one issue with the Jones is that I don't believe it will hold up to the Hunq as a commuter. As an all day riding bike on mixed terrain, without technical riding, I suppose they each have their advantages. On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 2:00:43 PM UTC-6,

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I have both: - a 26" 48cm hunqapillar with either 2.1" smart sams or rat trap pass tires and albastache bars (have tried a MAP and Jones bars on it though) used as an allrounder, camping, and mixed ride bike - and a steel jones 29er diamond frame w/ truss fork and carbon jones

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Clayton and Daniel - thanks! Both of your responses just make me want to get out and test ride a Jones sometime soon... I found a semi-local shop that actually has a diamond frame for rent so I think i'll be able to make that happen in the somewhat near future. Daniel your notes about Grant's

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

I want to see the BJ On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 8:54:36 PM UTC-5, Clayton.sf wrote: > > All purpose riding with commuting and errands mixed in I would bike the > Hunq. > > Mountainbiking, bike packing, and even touring where you don't unload and > reload the bike multiple times a day I

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

Dear Geeter, I have a Plus and a Hunq. I love both machines. The Jones is a far more capable machine overall on a variety of terrain. Rider placement, positioning and responsiveness place it in a different category than the Hunqapillar. Despite its extraordinary wheelbase and extremely large

[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

my mountain biking friends would say the 29er or the plus is a 'real' mountain bike by todays standards, technical trails, etc etc the hunq isnt really. i dont know. On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:00:43 PM UTC-5, Geeter wrote: > > Just curious if anyone on the board has a Jones 29er or Plus