[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Actually, I run my BAs at between 45 and 55 and weigh just a bit less than BB. Of course, that's for the comparatively narrow 50's. Per the chart that was in VBQ, that's just a couple of pounds over the recommended. And on a bike with the bars way up (the way I ride), the extra air in the back seems to be a benefits. FWIW, I run the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700x40 in my Hillborne at 50 to 55 up front and about 60 or so in back. Definitely has the necessary drop without getting squirmish. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 31, 8:52 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: LOL!! OK, 60 PSI may be exaggerating slightly... but the behemoth BAs (29x2.35) ARE rated at 55 PSI... And on smooth roads, when fully inflated these tires are SUPER fast... Still, I fear I will hit a speed bump under these conditions and start bouncing out of control... like an errant Whamo Super-ball (remember those?)... The FUN factor of the BAs is hard to resist... I really should read BQ, come to think of it... BB On Aug 29, 4:04 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Y'all reeely, *reeely* surprise me! 60 psi in 60 mm BAs??? I find 25/35 rock hard -- now this is the Monocog 29er, so perhaps the frame has *something* to do with it, but I find the best compromise between pavement and sand to be about 16/20, and I weight 170, no flyweight, and the bike quite flies over pavement at those pressures. I've ridden them at 12/15 with just a little more rolling resistance on pavement; the downside is not that but sidewall flex in corners (front) and bouncing when pedaling fast (rear). I also run 22mm Turbos and 23 mm Contis (559 and 571) at ~ 80-90; no pinch flats as far as I can remember, and that is at least 15 years -- well one, when I deliberately ran into a mess of large gravel to see what would happen. Y'all ought to read what BQ says about tire pressures. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Ray: I run the 29er Big Apples in the 2.35 (60mm) width on the Fargo, which fit just fine, even with Planet Bike Cascadia fenders... They are over- the-top awesome tires! I can pump these up to 60 PSI and they FLY over the road.. Typically, though I keep them at around 32-35 PSI and- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
LOL!! OK, 60 PSI may be exaggerating slightly... but the behemoth BAs (29x2.35) ARE rated at 55 PSI... And on smooth roads, when fully inflated these tires are SUPER fast... Still, I fear I will hit a speed bump under these conditions and start bouncing out of control... like an errant Whamo Super-ball (remember those?)... The FUN factor of the BAs is hard to resist... I really should read BQ, come to think of it... BB On Aug 29, 4:04 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Y'all reeely, *reeely* surprise me! 60 psi in 60 mm BAs??? I find 25/35 rock hard -- now this is the Monocog 29er, so perhaps the frame has *something* to do with it, but I find the best compromise between pavement and sand to be about 16/20, and I weight 170, no flyweight, and the bike quite flies over pavement at those pressures. I've ridden them at 12/15 with just a little more rolling resistance on pavement; the downside is not that but sidewall flex in corners (front) and bouncing when pedaling fast (rear). I also run 22mm Turbos and 23 mm Contis (559 and 571) at ~ 80-90; no pinch flats as far as I can remember, and that is at least 15 years -- well one, when I deliberately ran into a mess of large gravel to see what would happen. Y'all ought to read what BQ says about tire pressures. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Ray: I run the 29er Big Apples in the 2.35 (60mm) width on the Fargo, which fit just fine, even with Planet Bike Cascadia fenders... They are over- the-top awesome tires! I can pump these up to 60 PSI and they FLY over the road.. Typically, though I keep them at around 32-35 PSI and -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Rene: I SURE WILL Rest assured, your Bombadil found a good home. THANK YOU BB On Aug 28, 3:00 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: BB Im so glad my ex-Bombadil got a new home and will fit you and serve you well. It is a wonderful bike and I'm sure you'll have some amazing adventures together. Let me know how you set it up and post pictures! René Sent from my iPhone 4 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Ray: I run the 29er Big Apples in the 2.35 (60mm) width on the Fargo, which fit just fine, even with Planet Bike Cascadia fenders... They are over- the-top awesome tires! I can pump these up to 60 PSI and they FLY over the road.. Typically, though I keep them at around 32-35 PSI and ride on mixed terrain. I don't know of bigger (or better) tires. Cheers, BB On Aug 28, 10:00 am, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Welcome! Enjoy the Bomb! Just a wee bit OT, but may I ask what size tires you have on the Fargo? What is max size a Fargo will accommodate? Again, Welcome to the group. Great bunch of resourceful folks, here. From: Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 8:41:36 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails? New to RBW Owners... Woo hoo!! After working with Keven at RBW, seeking an answer to the tricky which Riv is right for me question, I opted for a Bombadil 60. I originally thought I had my mind made up with an AHH (mainly for light loaded on/off road travel), but since I'm 6'1, 230 lbs, Keven (wisely) suggested something a bit stouter might ultimately feel more reassuring for my style of riding, especially if I couldn't resist the urge to take it offroad and/or load up with heavier stuff. (I already own a nice Niner MCR 29er as my primary off-road steed, so I really envision using my Riv for back road touring, but still with plenty of dirt-road and off-road capability where a mountain bike might be overkill. We talked about a double TT Hilsen (which sounded just OK to me... and at some point why not just go with an Atlantis or Bombadil? Maybe the Hilsen isn't the right one for me... DAMMIT I thought I had it figured out!!!).. To get an Atlantis in my size would require a non-standard 64cm... did I want to wait and pay a little extra? (Dammit again, I thought I had it figured out... but the wait and extra cost would probably be worth it in my mind. (But then I discovered one current Atlantis owner, who is 6'5/245 talking about having Riv possibly add an extra TT on his Atlantis)... Jeez, I thought... can't a big guy like me get a bike that can do all these things in a size that DOESN'T require a second TT? Well that all became a moot point when Keven showed me a lightly used Bombadil frame in my size they JUST received on a trade-in, and that was all I needed to see... I did what any other reasonable future RBW Owner would do... I bought it. Now I personally plan to set this up as a kind of do-all touring bike, and I am taking inspiration from the previous owner (Rene, thank you!), and plan to try out several configurations. Admittedly I have a Salsa Fargo already nicely performing commuting, light off-road and commuting duty, but even as awesome as the Fargo is (and I wouldn't hesitate to declare the Fargo an act of sheer brilliance on the part of Salsa), there is NOTHING on this planet quite like the Bombadil... we all know that. I'm afraid my Fargo may need to find a new owner soon (sad as that sounds)... The Bombadil will become my main ride (for paved and back road/light trail riding, commuting, coffee shop runs, etc.), and the Niner will remain my true mountain bike (capable of pretty much anything off-road). I appreciate all the great dialogue onb this forum about seeking and achieving the best setup. As a former Kogswell P/R owner and KOG member (which I miss), it's great to once again tap into such great thinkers as there are here in this group. Peace, BB On Aug 27, 10:15 am, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: The AHH and the Bombadil or a Hunqapillar might be the solution, sticking with the Bombadil would keep me strapped to 650 wheels which isn't a terrible thing. I'm not sure what route I am going to go with yet, I will probably wind up ordering the first bike in a month or two, so I have some time. Right now I am riding a Trek 7.5 FX so I have a rideable bike for rails to trails type stuff and the road, but no singletrack capable bike. I would like to replace the FX with a Rivendell though. I have some thinking to do though, but I think the first one will probably be a trail worthy bike. On Aug 26, 6:03 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: To the OP, let us know what you decide. It doesn't sound like you have any big tours planned so maybe consider getting a SH (single TT Taiwanese model) or an AHH, ride it for a while and make your decision about a touring bike from there. --mike On Aug 26, 1:03 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great option! An AHH and a Bomb would make a great 1-2 punch, with less duplication than a Bomb/Atlantis combo. Whichever two you end up with, having a single wheel size is pretty nice. On Aug 26, 7:34 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:- Hide
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
New to RBW Owners... Woo hoo!! After working with Keven at RBW, seeking an answer to the tricky which Riv is right for me question, I opted for a Bombadil 60. I originally thought I had my mind made up with an AHH (mainly for light loaded on/off road travel), but since I'm 6'1, 230 lbs, Keven (wisely) suggested something a bit stouter might ultimately feel more reassuring for my style of riding, especially if I couldn't resist the urge to take it offroad and/or load up with heavier stuff. (I already own a nice Niner MCR 29er as my primary off-road steed, so I really envision using my Riv for back road touring, but still with plenty of dirt-road and off-road capability where a mountain bike might be overkill. We talked about a double TT Hilsen (which sounded just OK to me... and at some point why not just go with an Atlantis or Bombadil? Maybe the Hilsen isn't the right one for me... DAMMIT I thought I had it figured out!!!).. To get an Atlantis in my size would require a non-standard 64cm... did I want to wait and pay a little extra? (Dammit again, I thought I had it figured out... but the wait and extra cost would probably be worth it in my mind. (But then I discovered one current Atlantis owner, who is 6'5/245 talking about having Riv possibly add an extra TT on his Atlantis)... Jeez, I thought... can't a big guy like me get a bike that can do all these things in a size that DOESN'T require a second TT? Well that all became a moot point when Keven showed me a lightly used Bombadil frame in my size they JUST received on a trade-in, and that was all I needed to see... I did what any other reasonable future RBW Owner would do... I bought it. Now I personally plan to set this up as a kind of do-all touring bike, and I am taking inspiration from the previous owner (Rene, thank you!), and plan to try out several configurations. Admittedly I have a Salsa Fargo already nicely performing commuting, light off-road and commuting duty, but even as awesome as the Fargo is (and I wouldn't hesitate to declare the Fargo an act of sheer brilliance on the part of Salsa), there is NOTHING on this planet quite like the Bombadil... we all know that. I'm afraid my Fargo may need to find a new owner soon (sad as that sounds)... The Bombadil will become my main ride (for paved and back road/light trail riding, commuting, coffee shop runs, etc.), and the Niner will remain my true mountain bike (capable of pretty much anything off-road). I appreciate all the great dialogue onb this forum about seeking and achieving the best setup. As a former Kogswell P/R owner and KOG member (which I miss), it's great to once again tap into such great thinkers as there are here in this group. Peace, BB On Aug 27, 10:15 am, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: The AHH and the Bombadil or a Hunqapillar might be the solution, sticking with the Bombadil would keep me strapped to 650 wheels which isn't a terrible thing. I'm not sure what route I am going to go with yet, I will probably wind up ordering the first bike in a month or two, so I have some time. Right now I am riding a Trek 7.5 FX so I have a rideable bike for rails to trails type stuff and the road, but no singletrack capable bike. I would like to replace the FX with a Rivendell though. I have some thinking to do though, but I think the first one will probably be a trail worthy bike. On Aug 26, 6:03 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: To the OP, let us know what you decide. It doesn't sound like you have any big tours planned so maybe consider getting a SH (single TT Taiwanese model) or an AHH, ride it for a while and make your decision about a touring bike from there. --mike On Aug 26, 1:03 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great option! An AHH and a Bomb would make a great 1-2 punch, with less duplication than a Bomb/Atlantis combo. Whichever two you end up with, having a single wheel size is pretty nice. On Aug 26, 7:34 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Bob, Glad you joined the group! Am interested to see what you end up doing with the Bombadil. (Aside - we had exchanged e-mails when this was happening. Believe I suggested an AHH as an option.) Funnily enough, there is also a very slight chance my Fargo will be for sale in the future. If a possible test ride on a 650B bike I passed on a few years ago turns out well. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 27, 10:41 am, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: New to RBW Owners... Woo hoo!! After working with Keven at RBW, seeking an answer to the tricky which Riv is right for me question, I opted for a Bombadil 60. I originally thought I had my mind made up with an AHH (mainly for light loaded on/off road travel), but since I'm 6'1, 230 lbs, Keven (wisely) suggested something a bit stouter might ultimately feel more reassuring for my style of riding, especially if I couldn't resist the urge to take it offroad and/or load up with heavier stuff. (I already own a nice Niner MCR 29er as my primary off-road steed, so I really envision using my Riv for back road touring, but still with plenty of dirt-road and off-road capability where a mountain bike might be overkill. We talked about a double TT Hilsen (which sounded just OK to me... and at some point why not just go with an Atlantis or Bombadil? Maybe the Hilsen isn't the right one for me... DAMMIT I thought I had it figured out!!!).. To get an Atlantis in my size would require a non-standard 64cm... did I want to wait and pay a little extra? (Dammit again, I thought I had it figured out... but the wait and extra cost would probably be worth it in my mind. (But then I discovered one current Atlantis owner, who is 6'5/245 talking about having Riv possibly add an extra TT on his Atlantis)... Jeez, I thought... can't a big guy like me get a bike that can do all these things in a size that DOESN'T require a second TT? Well that all became a moot point when Keven showed me a lightly used Bombadil frame in my size they JUST received on a trade-in, and that was all I needed to see... I did what any other reasonable future RBW Owner would do... I bought it. Now I personally plan to set this up as a kind of do-all touring bike, and I am taking inspiration from the previous owner (Rene, thank you!), and plan to try out several configurations. Admittedly I have a Salsa Fargo already nicely performing commuting, light off-road and commuting duty, but even as awesome as the Fargo is (and I wouldn't hesitate to declare the Fargo an act of sheer brilliance on the part of Salsa), there is NOTHING on this planet quite like the Bombadil... we all know that. I'm afraid my Fargo may need to find a new owner soon (sad as that sounds)... The Bombadil will become my main ride (for paved and back road/light trail riding, commuting, coffee shop runs, etc.), and the Niner will remain my true mountain bike (capable of pretty much anything off-road). I appreciate all the great dialogue onb this forum about seeking and achieving the best setup. As a former Kogswell P/R owner and KOG member (which I miss), it's great to once again tap into such great thinkers as there are here in this group. Peace, BB On Aug 27, 10:15 am, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: The AHH and the Bombadil or a Hunqapillar might be the solution, sticking with the Bombadil would keep me strapped to 650 wheels which isn't a terrible thing. I'm not sure what route I am going to go with yet, I will probably wind up ordering the first bike in a month or two, so I have some time. Right now I am riding a Trek 7.5 FX so I have a rideable bike for rails to trails type stuff and the road, but no singletrack capable bike. I would like to replace the FX with a Rivendell though. I have some thinking to do though, but I think the first one will probably be a trail worthy bike. On Aug 26, 6:03 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: To the OP, let us know what you decide. It doesn't sound like you have any big tours planned so maybe consider getting a SH (single TT Taiwanese model) or an AHH, ride it for a while and make your decision about a touring bike from there. --mike On Aug 26, 1:03 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great option! An AHH and a Bomb would make a great 1-2 punch, with less duplication than a Bomb/Atlantis combo. Whichever two you end up with, having a single wheel size is pretty nice. On Aug 26, 7:34 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Welcome! Enjoy the Bomb! Just a wee bit OT, but may I ask what size tires you have on the Fargo? What is max size a Fargo will accommodate? Again, Welcome to the group. Great bunch of resourceful folks, here. From: Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 8:41:36 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails? New to RBW Owners... Woo hoo!! After working with Keven at RBW, seeking an answer to the tricky which Riv is right for me question, I opted for a Bombadil 60. I originally thought I had my mind made up with an AHH (mainly for light loaded on/off road travel), but since I'm 6'1, 230 lbs, Keven (wisely) suggested something a bit stouter might ultimately feel more reassuring for my style of riding, especially if I couldn't resist the urge to take it offroad and/or load up with heavier stuff. (I already own a nice Niner MCR 29er as my primary off-road steed, so I really envision using my Riv for back road touring, but still with plenty of dirt-road and off-road capability where a mountain bike might be overkill. We talked about a double TT Hilsen (which sounded just OK to me... and at some point why not just go with an Atlantis or Bombadil? Maybe the Hilsen isn't the right one for me... DAMMIT I thought I had it figured out!!!).. To get an Atlantis in my size would require a non-standard 64cm... did I want to wait and pay a little extra? (Dammit again, I thought I had it figured out... but the wait and extra cost would probably be worth it in my mind. (But then I discovered one current Atlantis owner, who is 6'5/245 talking about having Riv possibly add an extra TT on his Atlantis)... Jeez, I thought... can't a big guy like me get a bike that can do all these things in a size that DOESN'T require a second TT? Well that all became a moot point when Keven showed me a lightly used Bombadil frame in my size they JUST received on a trade-in, and that was all I needed to see... I did what any other reasonable future RBW Owner would do... I bought it. Now I personally plan to set this up as a kind of do-all touring bike, and I am taking inspiration from the previous owner (Rene, thank you!), and plan to try out several configurations. Admittedly I have a Salsa Fargo already nicely performing commuting, light off-road and commuting duty, but even as awesome as the Fargo is (and I wouldn't hesitate to declare the Fargo an act of sheer brilliance on the part of Salsa), there is NOTHING on this planet quite like the Bombadil... we all know that. I'm afraid my Fargo may need to find a new owner soon (sad as that sounds)... The Bombadil will become my main ride (for paved and back road/light trail riding, commuting, coffee shop runs, etc.), and the Niner will remain my true mountain bike (capable of pretty much anything off-road). I appreciate all the great dialogue onb this forum about seeking and achieving the best setup. As a former Kogswell P/R owner and KOG member (which I miss), it's great to once again tap into such great thinkers as there are here in this group. Peace, BB On Aug 27, 10:15 am, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: The AHH and the Bombadil or a Hunqapillar might be the solution, sticking with the Bombadil would keep me strapped to 650 wheels which isn't a terrible thing. I'm not sure what route I am going to go with yet, I will probably wind up ordering the first bike in a month or two, so I have some time. Right now I am riding a Trek 7.5 FX so I have a rideable bike for rails to trails type stuff and the road, but no singletrack capable bike. I would like to replace the FX with a Rivendell though. I have some thinking to do though, but I think the first one will probably be a trail worthy bike. On Aug 26, 6:03 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: To the OP, let us know what you decide. It doesn't sound like you have any big tours planned so maybe consider getting a SH (single TT Taiwanese model) or an AHH, ride it for a while and make your decision about a touring bike from there. --mike On Aug 26, 1:03 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great option! An AHH and a Bomb would make a great 1-2 punch, with less duplication than a Bomb/Atlantis combo. Whichever two you end up with, having a single wheel size is pretty nice. On Aug 26, 7:34 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Eric: you had me in a tizzy just now: I just bought a Med Fargo from an Eric on the Boblist and I thought for a moment ... *He* is Eric Douglas. I'm curious: why are you selling your Fargo? And how did you set it up? And how did you find the ride and fit? I found out that the Fargo will take 60s with fenders -- so I am told -- and has, basically, touring geometry with low bb and 46 cm stays -- which is exactly the sort of all rounder bike I have been looking for. Neither the Bomb or the Hunq have as much clearance. So the Fargo can take the place both of my (much modified) Monocog 29er and my Sam Hill. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:15 AM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Funnily enough, there is also a very slight chance my Fargo will be for sale in the future. If a possible test ride on a 650B bike I passed on a few years ago turns out well. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
My seller told me it will easily take 60s with fenders; Salsa says it will take 2.4s, tho' doesn't speak of fenders. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Welcome! Enjoy the Bomb! Just a wee bit OT, but may I ask what size tires you have on the Fargo? What is max size a Fargo will accommodate? Again, Welcome to the group. Great bunch of resourceful folks, here. From: Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 8:41:36 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails? New to RBW Owners... Woo hoo!! After working with Keven at RBW, seeking an answer to the tricky which Riv is right for me question, I opted for a Bombadil 60. I originally thought I had my mind made up with an AHH (mainly for light loaded on/off road travel), but since I'm 6'1, 230 lbs, Keven (wisely) suggested something a bit stouter might ultimately feel more reassuring for my style of riding, especially if I couldn't resist the urge to take it offroad and/or load up with heavier stuff. (I already own a nice Niner MCR 29er as my primary off-road steed, so I really envision using my Riv for back road touring, but still with plenty of dirt-road and off-road capability where a mountain bike might be overkill. We talked about a double TT Hilsen (which sounded just OK to me... and at some point why not just go with an Atlantis or Bombadil? Maybe the Hilsen isn't the right one for me... DAMMIT I thought I had it figured out!!!).. To get an Atlantis in my size would require a non-standard 64cm... did I want to wait and pay a little extra? (Dammit again, I thought I had it figured out... but the wait and extra cost would probably be worth it in my mind. (But then I discovered one current Atlantis owner, who is 6'5/245 talking about having Riv possibly add an extra TT on his Atlantis)... Jeez, I thought... can't a big guy like me get a bike that can do all these things in a size that DOESN'T require a second TT? Well that all became a moot point when Keven showed me a lightly used Bombadil frame in my size they JUST received on a trade-in, and that was all I needed to see... I did what any other reasonable future RBW Owner would do... I bought it. Now I personally plan to set this up as a kind of do-all touring bike, and I am taking inspiration from the previous owner (Rene, thank you!), and plan to try out several configurations. Admittedly I have a Salsa Fargo already nicely performing commuting, light off-road and commuting duty, but even as awesome as the Fargo is (and I wouldn't hesitate to declare the Fargo an act of sheer brilliance on the part of Salsa), there is NOTHING on this planet quite like the Bombadil... we all know that. I'm afraid my Fargo may need to find a new owner soon (sad as that sounds)... The Bombadil will become my main ride (for paved and back road/light trail riding, commuting, coffee shop runs, etc.), and the Niner will remain my true mountain bike (capable of pretty much anything off-road). I appreciate all the great dialogue onb this forum about seeking and achieving the best setup. As a former Kogswell P/R owner and KOG member (which I miss), it's great to once again tap into such great thinkers as there are here in this group. Peace, BB On Aug 27, 10:15 am, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: The AHH and the Bombadil or a Hunqapillar might be the solution, sticking with the Bombadil would keep me strapped to 650 wheels which isn't a terrible thing. I'm not sure what route I am going to go with yet, I will probably wind up ordering the first bike in a month or two, so I have some time. Right now I am riding a Trek 7.5 FX so I have a rideable bike for rails to trails type stuff and the road, but no singletrack capable bike. I would like to replace the FX with a Rivendell though. I have some thinking to do though, but I think the first one will probably be a trail worthy bike. On Aug 26, 6:03 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: To the OP, let us know what you decide. It doesn't sound like you have any big tours planned so maybe consider getting a SH (single TT Taiwanese model) or an AHH, ride it for a while and make your decision about a touring bike from there. --mike On Aug 26, 1:03 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great option! An AHH and a Bomb would make a great 1-2 punch, with less duplication than a Bomb/Atlantis combo. Whichever two you end up with, having a single wheel size is pretty nice. On Aug 26, 7:34 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
I wonder if that's the Bombadil I'm thinking of. Was it returned by a Group member? On Aug 27, 8:41 am, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: New to RBW Owners... Woo hoo!! After working with Keven at RBW, seeking an answer to the tricky which Riv is right for me question, I opted for a Bombadil 60. I originally thought I had my mind made up with an AHH (mainly for light loaded on/off road travel), but since I'm 6'1, 230 lbs, Keven (wisely) suggested something a bit stouter might ultimately feel more reassuring for my style of riding, especially if I couldn't resist the urge to take it offroad and/or load up with heavier stuff. (I already own a nice Niner MCR 29er as my primary off-road steed, so I really envision using my Riv for back road touring, but still with plenty of dirt-road and off-road capability where a mountain bike might be overkill. We talked about a double TT Hilsen (which sounded just OK to me... and at some point why not just go with an Atlantis or Bombadil? Maybe the Hilsen isn't the right one for me... DAMMIT I thought I had it figured out!!!).. To get an Atlantis in my size would require a non-standard 64cm... did I want to wait and pay a little extra? (Dammit again, I thought I had it figured out... but the wait and extra cost would probably be worth it in my mind. (But then I discovered one current Atlantis owner, who is 6'5/245 talking about having Riv possibly add an extra TT on his Atlantis)... Jeez, I thought... can't a big guy like me get a bike that can do all these things in a size that DOESN'T require a second TT? Well that all became a moot point when Keven showed me a lightly used Bombadil frame in my size they JUST received on a trade-in, and that was all I needed to see... I did what any other reasonable future RBW Owner would do... I bought it. Now I personally plan to set this up as a kind of do-all touring bike, and I am taking inspiration from the previous owner (Rene, thank you!), and plan to try out several configurations. Admittedly I have a Salsa Fargo already nicely performing commuting, light off-road and commuting duty, but even as awesome as the Fargo is (and I wouldn't hesitate to declare the Fargo an act of sheer brilliance on the part of Salsa), there is NOTHING on this planet quite like the Bombadil... we all know that. I'm afraid my Fargo may need to find a new owner soon (sad as that sounds)... The Bombadil will become my main ride (for paved and back road/light trail riding, commuting, coffee shop runs, etc.), and the Niner will remain my true mountain bike (capable of pretty much anything off-road). I appreciate all the great dialogue onb this forum about seeking and achieving the best setup. As a former Kogswell P/R owner and KOG member (which I miss), it's great to once again tap into such great thinkers as there are here in this group. Peace, BB On Aug 27, 10:15 am, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: The AHH and the Bombadil or a Hunqapillar might be the solution, sticking with the Bombadil would keep me strapped to 650 wheels which isn't a terrible thing. I'm not sure what route I am going to go with yet, I will probably wind up ordering the first bike in a month or two, so I have some time. Right now I am riding a Trek 7.5 FX so I have a rideable bike for rails to trails type stuff and the road, but no singletrack capable bike. I would like to replace the FX with a Rivendell though. I have some thinking to do though, but I think the first one will probably be a trail worthy bike. On Aug 26, 6:03 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: To the OP, let us know what you decide. It doesn't sound like you have any big tours planned so maybe consider getting a SH (single TT Taiwanese model) or an AHH, ride it for a while and make your decision about a touring bike from there. --mike On Aug 26, 1:03 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great option! An AHH and a Bomb would make a great 1-2 punch, with less duplication than a Bomb/Atlantis combo. Whichever two you end up with, having a single wheel size is pretty nice. On Aug 26, 7:34 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
BB Im so glad my ex-Bombadil got a new home and will fit you and serve you well. It is a wonderful bike and I'm sure you'll have some amazing adventures together. Let me know how you set it up and post pictures! René Sent from my iPhone 4 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Patrick, Nope, different Eric. Am actually probably not selling the Fargo. There is/was a slight chance a Bleriot could cross my path. If I purchased it, would need to get rid of one bike. Hence the possibility of the Fargo going away. Odds are highly against it, though. It is the bike I rode my century on and is really comfortable for my style of riding. My Fargo is set up like this - http://tinyurl.com/3y5t2we Basically, a stock XT build with Woodchipper bars, Brooks saddle, fenders and Carradice bag. The bike came with 2.1 tires and appears to be able to take 2.4 with mud/broken spoke clearance. But back to Bobby B's Bombadil - can't wait to see how he builds it up. And to hear his comments on how it handles versus the Fargo. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 28, 9:32 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Eric: you had me in a tizzy just now: I just bought a Med Fargo from an Eric on the Boblist and I thought for a moment ... *He* is Eric Douglas. I'm curious: why are you selling your Fargo? And how did you set it up? And how did you find the ride and fit? I found out that the Fargo will take 60s with fenders -- so I am told -- and has, basically, touring geometry with low bb and 46 cm stays -- which is exactly the sort of all rounder bike I have been looking for. Neither the Bomb or the Hunq have as much clearance. So the Fargo can take the place both of my (much modified) Monocog 29er and my Sam Hill. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:15 AM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Funnily enough, there is also a very slight chance my Fargo will be for sale in the future. If a possible test ride on a 650B bike I passed on a few years ago turns out well. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Thanks, Eric P -- very nice. I am looking forward to mine: I've long wanted a bike that can handle the same sandy surfaces that I bought the Monocog for but has more road-like geometry; in particular, lower bb and shorter tt. I will probably -- tho' who knows? I've not seen it yet -- set mine up with Noodles -- these ought to work fine with the shorter tt and the right stem; too long for me on the SH) at about 1 above saddle for an aero hooks position, comfortable all day hoods and rough surface flats. I'm eager to try the Avid MTB calipers and compare them to the rather weak road BB7s, and I get to use my new, pretty, nicely shaped but so far unused Cane Creek V brake levers. I'll probably bite the bullet and just set it up as a 7 or 8 X 3 triple using the drivetrain off the Sam Hill. Photos when it's ready. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:24 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Patrick, Nope, different Eric. Am actually probably not selling the Fargo. There is/was a slight chance a Bleriot could cross my path. If I purchased it, would need to get rid of one bike. Hence the possibility of the Fargo going away. Odds are highly against it, though. It is the bike I rode my century on and is really comfortable for my style of riding. My Fargo is set up like this - http://tinyurl.com/3y5t2we Basically, a stock XT build with Woodchipper bars, Brooks saddle, fenders and Carradice bag. The bike came with 2.1 tires and appears to be able to take 2.4 with mud/broken spoke clearance. But back to Bobby B's Bombadil - can't wait to see how he builds it up. And to hear his comments on how it handles versus the Fargo. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 28, 9:32 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Eric: you had me in a tizzy just now: I just bought a Med Fargo from an Eric on the Boblist and I thought for a moment ... *He* is Eric Douglas. I'm curious: why are you selling your Fargo? And how did you set it up? And how did you find the ride and fit? I found out that the Fargo will take 60s with fenders -- so I am told -- and has, basically, touring geometry with low bb and 46 cm stays -- which is exactly the sort of all rounder bike I have been looking for. Neither the Bomb or the Hunq have as much clearance. So the Fargo can take the place both of my (much modified) Monocog 29er and my Sam Hill. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:15 AM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Funnily enough, there is also a very slight chance my Fargo will be for sale in the future. If a possible test ride on a 650B bike I passed on a few years ago turns out well. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
I own an Atlantis set up as a touring bike with 700*35 Marathon Supremes. It rides beautifully on roads. I too have been thinking of adding another Riv, possibly a Bombadil or Hunq. I also considered the AHH and then putting larger tires on the Atlantis. With the suggestions from others of adding an AHH,my new thoughts are about the Hillborne. How does that compare, is it more of an Atlantis or AHH? Bill Any thoughts, comments or anything? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
The AHH and the Bombadil or a Hunqapillar might be the solution, sticking with the Bombadil would keep me strapped to 650 wheels which isn't a terrible thing. I'm not sure what route I am going to go with yet, I will probably wind up ordering the first bike in a month or two, so I have some time. Right now I am riding a Trek 7.5 FX so I have a rideable bike for rails to trails type stuff and the road, but no singletrack capable bike. I would like to replace the FX with a Rivendell though. I have some thinking to do though, but I think the first one will probably be a trail worthy bike. On Aug 26, 6:03 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: To the OP, let us know what you decide. It doesn't sound like you have any big tours planned so maybe consider getting a SH (single TT Taiwanese model) or an AHH, ride it for a while and make your decision about a touring bike from there. --mike On Aug 26, 1:03 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great option! An AHH and a Bomb would make a great 1-2 punch, with less duplication than a Bomb/Atlantis combo. Whichever two you end up with, having a single wheel size is pretty nice. On Aug 26, 7:34 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
When I bought my Sam, Keven pointed out to me that it is not as stiff as the Atlantis; more of an all rounder with lighter tubing than a full on touring bike. Yet is seems to handle loads well enough with a Tubus (= very stiff and strong) rack. My 56, canti, Waterford is for sale: low miles, lowrider brazeons added; with hs, sp, fenders (VO aluminum), cantis (no levers), stem (no bar), 2-leg stand for $1250 + shipping. On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:15 PM, fulf fu...@myfairpoint.net wrote: I own an Atlantis set up as a touring bike with 700*35 Marathon Supremes. It rides beautifully on roads. I too have been thinking of adding another Riv, possibly a Bombadil or Hunq. I also considered the AHH and then putting larger tires on the Atlantis. With the suggestions from others of adding an AHH,my new thoughts are about the Hillborne. How does that compare, is it more of an Atlantis or AHH? Bill Any thoughts, comments or anything? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Both of your suggestions sound good. Alright, I guess I need three bikes, wait, no four. On Aug 25, 8:11 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Another thought (actually, two thoughts): 1) How about an Atlantis, two wheel sets, two switchable cockpits plus a Roadeo for fast road rides? or, 2) How about an Atlantis as per above, and a Gomez mixte (650b) with Alba bars for errands, commuting, rain (with fenders) and occasional trails? From: RJM rjme...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 2:30:58 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails? Thanks for all the suggestions. I was thinking two bikes because one would have drop bars, barcons and front and rear pannier racks and the other bike, the trail worthy bike, would have bullmoose bars and paul's thumbies with a small front and rear rack. I could probably do with one bike though, maybe with an albatross bar set up and just swap rack setups or wheelsets. It's definately a good idea. I guess one question would be, Would the Atlantis be the better choice or would the Hunqapillar/Bombadil be the better all around bike? I do like the look of the Atlantis frameset, but wonder if a slightly sloping top-tube would be beneficial with my short PBH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Interesting idea. I was thinking along the lines of making the bombadil or hunqapillar a bullmoose barred, paul thumbie, small racked with small bags when the needs arise, singletrack capable machine and the Atlantis the tourer with drop bars and panniers. If an Atlantis will work fine on the trails too, I could just get a second set of wheels for that too. It may be the route I go. Do you think the sloping top tube on the hunq or bomb will offer me better stand over than the Atlantis, so in other words just get one of those instead of the Atlantis? On Aug 25, 6:49 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: My initial attempt at setting up multiple cockpits is going *very* well for me. Get the one bike; and get what you need to make it three or four bikes as desired. I highly recommed daVinci bar-switch kits for this purpose. They don't address the front brake issue... But... it turns out that if you have a Paul motolite brake up front then simply getting an extra hooked canoe and noodle (moto kit) for each bar really makes things easy. I've got Albatross and Moustache bars set up this way for my Hillborne. Makes it two completely different bikes. The initial set up of the da Vinci splitters is somewhat tedious. But on my very first switch of bars I did not have to adjust a thing; my indexing and brakes were good to go. Definitely more economical than multiple bikes. Yours, Thomas Lynn skean On Aug 25, 5:16 pm, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: I have an Atlantis and a Bombadil; they were similar enough in function (actually, VERY similar) that I stripped the Bomba and am in the process of rebuilding it as a Bullmoose barred, Rohloff-equipped bike of the apocalypse. Which I guess is a roundabout way of saying that I agree with those who are urging you not to make an Atlantis and a Bomba/Hunq your two Riv bikes -- there's a lot of better variety in their offerings, especially the Homer. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rene Sterental Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:05 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails? I started with an AHH and then added a Bombadil with the idea that the AHH would be my road bike and the Bomba would be my MTB/eventual touring camping bike. Both with 700c wheels. The Bombadil proved to be too large and I exchanged it for an Atlantis that ia virtually identical in it's geometry to the AHH which fit perfectly. The smaller Bomba was for 650b tires and I wanted to have the same wheels for both. I second Ray that if you only get one bike, it should be the Atlantis with the extra wheelset The second shouldn't be a Bomba or Hunqua, it should be a Homer. An Atlamtis and a Bba/Hunqua is like having two for the same purpose. The idea of two Atlantis with different bar configurations is quite intriguing... But I'd rather experwnt first, choose the preferred setup and have one bike of each: AHH + Atlantis. I just love them! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. --- --- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at(212) 735-3000and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Yes, I do see that it would be like having two of the same bike. Maybe a Hillborne/Hunqapillar-Bombadil mix? On Aug 25, 5:16 pm, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: I have an Atlantis and a Bombadil; they were similar enough in function (actually, VERY similar) that I stripped the Bomba and am in the process of rebuilding it as a Bullmoose barred, Rohloff-equipped bike of the apocalypse. Which I guess is a roundabout way of saying that I agree with those who are urging you not to make an Atlantis and a Bomba/Hunq your two Riv bikes -- there's a lot of better variety in their offerings, especially the Homer. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rene Sterental Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:05 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails? I started with an AHH and then added a Bombadil with the idea that the AHH would be my road bike and the Bomba would be my MTB/eventual touring camping bike. Both with 700c wheels. The Bombadil proved to be too large and I exchanged it for an Atlantis that ia virtually identical in it's geometry to the AHH which fit perfectly. The smaller Bomba was for 650b tires and I wanted to have the same wheels for both. I second Ray that if you only get one bike, it should be the Atlantis with the extra wheelset The second shouldn't be a Bomba or Hunqua, it should be a Homer. An Atlamtis and a Bba/Hunqua is like having two for the same purpose. The idea of two Atlantis with different bar configurations is quite intriguing... But I'd rather experwnt first, choose the preferred setup and have one bike of each: AHH + Atlantis. I just love them! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. ------ To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. ======- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
RJM .. The Bombadil works just fine on the road too. The feedback here is Atlantis biased because it's been around since 1999, not many have a Bombadil yet, even fewer a Hunqapillar. I use my Bombabil on and off road. I don't transport my bike, so I gotta ride to whatever trail I'm riding, and the Bombadil suits this perfectly. I'd say get the one(s) that fit you best. For example, I didn't buy an Atlantis because of the top tube in my size. The Bombadil is about 2cm. longer and fits me perfectly using Albatross bars. The Bombadil's more sloping TT makes getting bars higher easier for me, without resorting to an overly tall stem. No offense to the Technomic lovers , but I don't like those stems. If you look at the Atlantis Bomabdil and Hunqapillar specs, you'll see they are quite different in fit and sizing. Let that be your guide. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
I am doing nealy the same thing! I had a custom built last year that functions as my Atlantis set up with 26 x 1.75 tires, Albatross bars with Silver bar ends, fenders, lights and baggage. This one functions as my daily ride, commuter, light tourer and all-day, long-ride bike. I then ordered a Hunqapillar which will be setup with 26 x 2.3 Big Apples, thumb shifters and Nitto Bullmoose. This will be my light trail bike and cruiser. When needed, I'll swap the handlebars and make it my loaded tourer. After ten years of riding as an adult and trying many different bikes, I finally realized that I will be happy with two similar frames with completely different setups. I looked so long for frames that fit me well and were comfortable. So, don't be afraid to stay with what works even it if is a bit redundant. Yes, one Atlantis could do all of those things, but you'll spend your Friday nights swapping handlebars, racks and pedals. :) Ginz On Aug 25, 5:30 pm, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions. I was thinking two bikes because one would have drop bars, barcons and front and rear pannier racks and the other bike, the trail worthy bike, would have bullmoose bars and paul's thumbies with a small front and rear rack. I could probably do with one bike though, maybe with an albatross bar set up and just swap rack setups or wheelsets. It's definately a good idea. I guess one question would be, Would the Atlantis be the better choice or would the Hunqapillar/Bombadil be the better all around bike? I do like the look of the Atlantis frameset, but wonder if a slightly sloping top-tube would be beneficial with my short PBH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
With regard to the Hunq'a vs. Bombadil question: I would be inclined to stick with the 26 wheels of the Hunq'a so that wheels can be shared with the Atlantis. You'll also save a few bucks in exchange for the extra fanciness of the Bombadil. On Aug 26, 9:27 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: I am doing nealy the same thing! I had a custom built last year that functions as my Atlantis set up with 26 x 1.75 tires, Albatross bars with Silver bar ends, fenders, lights and baggage. This one functions as my daily ride, commuter, light tourer and all-day, long-ride bike. I then ordered a Hunqapillar which will be setup with 26 x 2.3 Big Apples, thumb shifters and Nitto Bullmoose. This will be my light trail bike and cruiser. When needed, I'll swap the handlebars and make it my loaded tourer. After ten years of riding as an adult and trying many different bikes, I finally realized that I will be happy with two similar frames with completely different setups. I looked so long for frames that fit me well and were comfortable. So, don't be afraid to stay with what works even it if is a bit redundant. Yes, one Atlantis could do all of those things, but you'll spend your Friday nights swapping handlebars, racks and pedals. :) Ginz On Aug 25, 5:30 pm, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions. I was thinking two bikes because one would have drop bars, barcons and front and rear pannier racks and the other bike, the trail worthy bike, would have bullmoose bars and paul's thumbies with a small front and rear rack. I could probably do with one bike though, maybe with an albatross bar set up and just swap rack setups or wheelsets. It's definately a good idea. I guess one question would be, Would the Atlantis be the better choice or would the Hunqapillar/Bombadil be the better all around bike? I do like the look of the Atlantis frameset, but wonder if a slightly sloping top-tube would be beneficial with my short PBH.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Since we're back to the practicality of wheelsharing, and since the original poster is on the smaller side of medium frame sizes, I'll vote for a 650B A. Homer Hilsen as a road and light tourer and a 650B Bombadil as a heavy tourer and trail bike. There's nothing a bike can do that you couldn't do with that pair. The Atlantis/Hunqa combo would be kind of medium/medium. I'm sure the Atlantis is terrific, and is probably the best 'one-bike-stable' of all time, but I think the Hilsen/Bomba combo would cover a wider swath of the big tent of cycling. On Aug 26, 6:33 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: With regard to the Hunq'a vs. Bombadil question: I would be inclined to stick with the 26 wheels of the Hunq'a so that wheels can be shared with the Atlantis. You'll also save a few bucks in exchange for the extra fanciness of the Bombadil. On Aug 26, 9:27 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: I am doing nealy the same thing! I had a custom built last year that functions as my Atlantis set up with 26 x 1.75 tires, Albatross bars with Silver bar ends, fenders, lights and baggage. This one functions as my daily ride, commuter, light tourer and all-day, long-ride bike. I then ordered a Hunqapillar which will be setup with 26 x 2.3 Big Apples, thumb shifters and Nitto Bullmoose. This will be my light trail bike and cruiser. When needed, I'll swap the handlebars and make it my loaded tourer. After ten years of riding as an adult and trying many different bikes, I finally realized that I will be happy with two similar frames with completely different setups. I looked so long for frames that fit me well and were comfortable. So, don't be afraid to stay with what works even it if is a bit redundant. Yes, one Atlantis could do all of those things, but you'll spend your Friday nights swapping handlebars, racks and pedals. :) Ginz On Aug 25, 5:30 pm, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions. I was thinking two bikes because one would have drop bars, barcons and front and rear pannier racks and the other bike, the trail worthy bike, would have bullmoose bars and paul's thumbies with a small front and rear rack. I could probably do with one bike though, maybe with an albatross bar set up and just swap rack setups or wheelsets. It's definately a good idea. I guess one question would be, Would the Atlantis be the better choice or would the Hunqapillar/Bombadil be the better all around bike? I do like the look of the Atlantis frameset, but wonder if a slightly sloping top-tube would be beneficial with my short PBH.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Since I had my old MTB, I decided to get a more 'road-skewed' Riv first, so I built my Ram.Now, I'm planning a Bombadil to be my MTB- replacement/touring bike. I think the Atlantis or the Hunq would each do well as such.I'm not a 'hard-corps' mountain-biker, more of a rails-to-trails kind of rider. A taller wheel than a 26 would roll along more quickly; however, I've heard a lot of 29'er-adopters here are backing away from them on tighter trails, they're going back to 26. The 650B seems to be a good compromise to me: maybe a bit more MTBish than a 700c, more road-bikish than a 26 (not that an Atlantis isn't!). I've been riding my Ram on the Creeper, it does fine, but I'm getting flats (two patches on my current rear tube). So, I'm wanting to push my Ram more towards the roads, and the Bomb will pull the trail-rides. Ram/Bomb is my combo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Didn't Grant propose that 9 bikes is the right number? What's up with this 2 nonsense. BTW - I agree with the AHH/Bombadil combo. I'm a sucker for pretty lugs and I think that should cover a wider spectrum of use. Brian On Aug 26, 2010, at 10:34 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Since we're back to the practicality of wheelsharing, and since the original poster is on the smaller side of medium frame sizes, I'll vote for a 650B A. Homer Hilsen as a road and light tourer and a 650B Bombadil as a heavy tourer and trail bike. There's nothing a bike can do that you couldn't do with that pair. The Atlantis/Hunqa combo would be kind of medium/medium. I'm sure the Atlantis is terrific, and is probably the best 'one-bike-stable' of all time, but I think the Hilsen/Bomba combo would cover a wider swath of the big tent of cycling. On Aug 26, 6:33 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: With regard to the Hunq'a vs. Bombadil question: I would be inclined to stick with the 26 wheels of the Hunq'a so that wheels can be shared with the Atlantis. You'll also save a few bucks in exchange for the extra fanciness of the Bombadil. On Aug 26, 9:27 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: I am doing nealy the same thing! I had a custom built last year that functions as my Atlantis set up with 26 x 1.75 tires, Albatross bars with Silver bar ends, fenders, lights and baggage. This one functions as my daily ride, commuter, light tourer and all-day, long-ride bike. I then ordered a Hunqapillar which will be setup with 26 x 2.3 Big Apples, thumb shifters and Nitto Bullmoose. This will be my light trail bike and cruiser. When needed, I'll swap the handlebars and make it my loaded tourer. After ten years of riding as an adult and trying many different bikes, I finally realized that I will be happy with two similar frames with completely different setups. I looked so long for frames that fit me well and were comfortable. So, don't be afraid to stay with what works even it if is a bit redundant. Yes, one Atlantis could do all of those things, but you'll spend your Friday nights swapping handlebars, racks and pedals. :) Ginz On Aug 25, 5:30 pm, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions. I was thinking two bikes because one would have drop bars, barcons and front and rear pannier racks and the other bike, the trail worthy bike, would have bullmoose bars and paul's thumbies with a small front and rear rack. I could probably do with one bike though, maybe with an albatross bar set up and just swap rack setups or wheelsets. It's definately a good idea. I guess one question would be, Would the Atlantis be the better choice or would the Hunqapillar/Bombadil be the better all around bike? I do like the look of the Atlantis frameset, but wonder if a slightly sloping top-tube would be beneficial with my short PBH.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Since I had my old MTB, I decided to get a more 'road-skewed' Riv first, so I built my Ram. Now, I'm planning a Bombadil to be my MTB- replacement/touring bike. I think the Atlantis or the Hunq would each do well as such. I'm not a 'hard-corps' mountain-biker, more of a rails-to-trails kind of rider. A taller wheel than a 26 would roll along more quickly; however, I've heard a lot of 29'er-adopters here are backing away from them on tighter trails, they're going back to 26. The 650B seems to be a good compromise to me: maybe a bit more MTBish than a 700c, more road-bikish than a 26 (not that an Atlantis isn't!). I've been riding my Ram on the Creeper, it does fine, but I'm getting flats (two patches on my current rear tube). So, I'm wanting to push my Ram more towards the roads, and the Bomb will pull the trail-rides. I have an atlantis and a romulus. The atlantis is good for carting around a bunch of stuff and not having to worry if you're overloading the bike :). The atlantis is good for a stable ride that I don't have to mess with. It rides fairly plush and feels stable even when things are less than stable around it. I use it as a commuter and a do-all and recently I've been leaving the albatross bars on it most of the time b/c they just feel right. The romulus is more or less a weekend rider or a I need to get from point A to point B as quickly as possible bike. I've tried to keep the rom as trim of carrying-capacity as possible - only putting on a mark's rack and a small bag on the front so I don't add too much stuff to it. If I had to choose only one bike it would be the atlantis - mainly b/c it can do all things - it is just a matter of taking stuff on and off of it to do it. But since I don't have to choose only one bike I enjoy the rom, too. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Having an Atlantis and something similar makes perfect sense. Any of the suggested frames can be widely transformed with a range of components. And having two bikes means you can avoid an annoying wheel/ tire/handlebar/bag/etc switcharoo before different kinds of rides. Besides, you need another bike to keep the first bike company. A single bike is not a happy bike. On Aug 26, 11:25 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Since I had my old MTB, I decided to get a more 'road-skewed' Riv first, so I built my Ram. Now, I'm planning a Bombadil to be my MTB- replacement/touring bike. I think the Atlantis or the Hunq would each do well as such. I'm not a 'hard-corps' mountain-biker, more of a rails-to-trails kind of rider. A taller wheel than a 26 would roll along more quickly; however, I've heard a lot of 29'er-adopters here are backing away from them on tighter trails, they're going back to 26. The 650B seems to be a good compromise to me: maybe a bit more MTBish than a 700c, more road-bikish than a 26 (not that an Atlantis isn't!). I've been riding my Ram on the Creeper, it does fine, but I'm getting flats (two patches on my current rear tube). So, I'm wanting to push my Ram more towards the roads, and the Bomb will pull the trail-rides. I have an atlantis and a romulus. The atlantis is good for carting around a bunch of stuff and not having to worry if you're overloading the bike :). The atlantis is good for a stable ride that I don't have to mess with. It rides fairly plush and feels stable even when things are less than stable around it. I use it as a commuter and a do-all and recently I've been leaving the albatross bars on it most of the time b/c they just feel right. The romulus is more or less a weekend rider or a I need to get from point A to point B as quickly as possible bike. I've tried to keep the rom as trim of carrying-capacity as possible - only putting on a mark's rack and a small bag on the front so I don't add too much stuff to it. If I had to choose only one bike it would be the atlantis - mainly b/c it can do all things - it is just a matter of taking stuff on and off of it to do it. But since I don't have to choose only one bike I enjoy the rom, too. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
This is a great option! An AHH and a Bomb would make a great 1-2 punch, with less duplication than a Bomb/Atlantis combo. Whichever two you end up with, having a single wheel size is pretty nice. On Aug 26, 7:34 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Since we're back to the practicality of wheelsharing, and since the original poster is on the smaller side of medium frame sizes, I'll vote for a 650B A. Homer Hilsen as a road and light tourer and a 650B Bombadil as a heavy tourer and trail bike. There's nothing a bike can do that you couldn't do with that pair. The Atlantis/Hunqa combo would be kind of medium/medium. I'm sure the Atlantis is terrific, and is probably the best 'one-bike-stable' of all time, but I think the Hilsen/Bomba combo would cover a wider swath of the big tent of cycling. On Aug 26, 6:33 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: With regard to the Hunq'a vs. Bombadil question: I would be inclined to stick with the 26 wheels of the Hunq'a so that wheels can be shared with the Atlantis. You'll also save a few bucks in exchange for the extra fanciness of the Bombadil. On Aug 26, 9:27 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: I am doing nealy the same thing! I had a custom built last year that functions as my Atlantis set up with 26 x 1.75 tires, Albatross bars with Silver bar ends, fenders, lights and baggage. This one functions as my daily ride, commuter, light tourer and all-day, long-ride bike. I then ordered a Hunqapillar which will be setup with 26 x 2.3 Big Apples, thumb shifters and Nitto Bullmoose. This will be my light trail bike and cruiser. When needed, I'll swap the handlebars and make it my loaded tourer. After ten years of riding as an adult and trying many different bikes, I finally realized that I will be happy with two similar frames with completely different setups. I looked so long for frames that fit me well and were comfortable. So, don't be afraid to stay with what works even it if is a bit redundant. Yes, one Atlantis could do all of those things, but you'll spend your Friday nights swapping handlebars, racks and pedals. :) Ginz On Aug 25, 5:30 pm, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions. I was thinking two bikes because one would have drop bars, barcons and front and rear pannier racks and the other bike, the trail worthy bike, would have bullmoose bars and paul's thumbies with a small front and rear rack. I could probably do with one bike though, maybe with an albatross bar set up and just swap rack setups or wheelsets. It's definately a good idea. I guess one question would be, Would the Atlantis be the better choice or would the Hunqapillar/Bombadil be the better all around bike? I do like the look of the Atlantis frameset, but wonder if a slightly sloping top-tube would be beneficial with my short PBH.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Yes, an AHH and a Bombadil would cover everything. I've used my AHH for brevets, fast road rides, gravel road grinder, toured on it for a week and have even taken it on single track where the main problem seems to be the lowish BB height. I felt like it has shined best as a brevet bike and for long mixed terrain rides. I feel there's a little bit of redundancy between the Ram and AHH. I'm about to put moustache bars on the Ram and see how I like it but if it doesn't work for me then I'll definitely sell it and use the money towards a SH or something a little more tour worthy. As I type this there's a 64cm Atlantis for sale on the list but I just can't swing it right now and I'm not motivated to sell the Rambouillet just yet. I'll probably kick myself but oh well. After an S240 next week and a little two night venture into Gifford Pinchot NF later in Sept my touring and S24Oing will be over with for the year. To the OP, let us know what you decide. It doesn't sound like you have any big tours planned so maybe consider getting a SH (single TT Taiwanese model) or an AHH, ride it for a while and make your decision about a touring bike from there. --mike On Aug 26, 1:03 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great option! An AHH and a Bomb would make a great 1-2 punch, with less duplication than a Bomb/Atlantis combo. Whichever two you end up with, having a single wheel size is pretty nice. On Aug 26, 7:34 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
well, i have an atlantis and am expecting a hunqapillar. the atlantis has fenders, racks, and drop bars, 37mm tires. the hunqapillar won't have any of that, instead it'll be set up with bullmoose and 60cm apples. i didn't get a bombadil because i couldn't justify spending another 500. to me, the time investment needed to swap between components is going to add up. wheelsets and handlebar swapping, or just jumping on the right bike for what you're going to do? i'm looking forward to having a full on mountain bike rig again, even though it was fun to get looks when i rode by with my fendered atlantis on the trails around here... erik On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, an AHH and a Bombadil would cover everything. I've used my AHH for brevets, fast road rides, gravel road grinder, toured on it for a week and have even taken it on single track where the main problem seems to be the lowish BB height. I felt like it has shined best as a brevet bike and for long mixed terrain rides. I feel there's a little bit of redundancy between the Ram and AHH. I'm about to put moustache bars on the Ram and see how I like it but if it doesn't work for me then I'll definitely sell it and use the money towards a SH or something a little more tour worthy. As I type this there's a 64cm Atlantis for sale on the list but I just can't swing it right now and I'm not motivated to sell the Rambouillet just yet. I'll probably kick myself but oh well. After an S240 next week and a little two night venture into Gifford Pinchot NF later in Sept my touring and S24Oing will be over with for the year. To the OP, let us know what you decide. It doesn't sound like you have any big tours planned so maybe consider getting a SH (single TT Taiwanese model) or an AHH, ride it for a while and make your decision about a touring bike from there. --mike On Aug 26, 1:03 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great option! An AHH and a Bomb would make a great 1-2 punch, with less duplication than a Bomb/Atlantis combo. Whichever two you end up with, having a single wheel size is pretty nice. On Aug 26, 7:34 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- oakland, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
On Aug 25, 2:14 pm, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: Any thoughts, comments or anything? Thanks. order the Atlantis first and use it for everything until you plan a tour. then use that very same Atlantis for the tour. Seriously, after seeing 3 Atlantis(es) at D2R2 in western, MA this weekend, I got the urge to sell all my bikes, buy an Atlantis and travel the world. Granted, this was a very fleeting urge, but still . .. . that bike is inspiring. something about it is just right. anyway, if you need the other bike, go with the one that takes 26 wheels - you'll be able to swap wheelsets with the Atlantis (i think at your size, the Atlantis takes 26). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
I had an Atlantis briefly and did a little off-roading. I think it could take anything you throw at it. Ryan On Aug 25, 1:17 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 25, 2:14 pm, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: Any thoughts, comments or anything? Thanks. order the Atlantis first and use it for everything until you plan a tour. then use that very same Atlantis for the tour. Seriously, after seeing 3 Atlantis(es) at D2R2 in western, MA this weekend, I got the urge to sell all my bikes, buy an Atlantis and travel the world. Granted, this was a very fleeting urge, but still . .. . that bike is inspiring. something about it is just right. anyway, if you need the other bike, go with the one that takes 26 wheels - you'll be able to swap wheelsets with the Atlantis (i think at your size, the Atlantis takes 26). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
I think you should seriously consider Patrick's suggestion. I think he's probably right. I don't own an Atlantis but I do have an AHH, Rambouillet and a Quickbeam. All are extremely versatile. But if you are going to have two Rivendells I strongly suggest that you make one of them an AHH and the other an Atlantis, Hunqa or Bombadil. I'm now off on an S24O. --mike On Aug 25, 1:17 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 25, 2:14 pm, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: Any thoughts, comments or anything? Thanks. order the Atlantis first and use it for everything until you plan a tour. then use that very same Atlantis for the tour. Seriously, after seeing 3 Atlantis(es) at D2R2 in western, MA this weekend, I got the urge to sell all my bikes, buy an Atlantis and travel the world. Granted, this was a very fleeting urge, but still . .. . that bike is inspiring. something about it is just right. anyway, if you need the other bike, go with the one that takes 26 wheels - you'll be able to swap wheelsets with the Atlantis (i think at your size, the Atlantis takes 26). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
One bike and two wheelsets certainly can add some versatility to one bike, but in 26, I don't think a Touring wheelset and a mountain wheelset needs to be different at all. It could just be two sets of tires. But when it comes to versatility on Rivendells, I think every Rivendell out there could easily support 3 or 4 different sets of tires for different applications. I think the key thing to determine whether you need two (or more) Rivendells might be handlebars. One bullmoose bike and one drop-bar bike, for example, would be far from redundant. Heck, I think two Atlantis' with two different bar setups would be awesome. Add in the possibility of Moustache or Alba bars, and you might be able to justify 4 different bikes. If you run drop bars on everything, then you might be best served with one do-it-all bike. On Aug 25, 1:55 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I think you should seriously consider Patrick's suggestion. I think he's probably right. I don't own an Atlantis but I do have an AHH, Rambouillet and a Quickbeam. All are extremely versatile. But if you are going to have two Rivendells I strongly suggest that you make one of them an AHH and the other an Atlantis, Hunqa or Bombadil. I'm now off on an S24O. --mike On Aug 25, 1:17 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 25, 2:14 pm, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: Any thoughts, comments or anything? Thanks. order the Atlantis first and use it for everything until you plan a tour. then use that very same Atlantis for the tour. Seriously, after seeing 3 Atlantis(es) at D2R2 in western, MA this weekend, I got the urge to sell all my bikes, buy an Atlantis and travel the world. Granted, this was a very fleeting urge, but still . .. . that bike is inspiring. something about it is just right. anyway, if you need the other bike, go with the one that takes 26 wheels - you'll be able to swap wheelsets with the Atlantis (i think at your size, the Atlantis takes 26). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
I own an Atlantis that I just toured down the Coast from SF, and I absolutely love it, I averaged 85 miles a day and was still very comfortable. And I do a fair amount of trail riding, and some not too technical single track with it. While I was in SF, I took a ride over to Riv Headquarters and test road a Hunqa...Great bike, but very similar(which I think was the plan) to the Atlantis. If I were to get another Riv, it would be set up as a lighter/road/commuter bike, and I'd leave the Atlantis dressed in touring/S24O gear. -Andy On Aug 25, 11:14 am, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking to get my first of two Rivendells and having a problem deciding which is the best to go with. I have decided that I absolutely need an Atlantis set up as an all-around tourer. I am confused on the next bike though which will be the first one ordered as I don't have a tour planned in the near future. I want a trail- bike that I can take on some of the singletrack nearby but also want it to have a small front and rear rack to be able to carry some bags. The trails aren't too technical and a non-suspended bike with 2 tires should be awesome on them, the racks would be to hold stuff to go on overnight lightweight camping trips. I am looking at either a Bombadil or a Hunqapillar and am stuck deciding which one. I have a PBH of 77 and weigh 220, so a stouter bike is probably the way to go. If I am figuring this right, I would require the smallest size with the whatever frameset I go with. I'm just not sure which one to go with, or if they are even that much different. I guess it comes down to what size wheelset, 650 or 26. What are your opinions on it? Do you think the Hunqapillar would make a better bike for singletracking/camping because of the 26 wheels or would the larger size be better? I like the looks of the paint scheme on the Hunquapillar and the headbadge is killer, but a solid colored powdercoated Bombadil would be a durable bike for many years. I think a white one would be cool looking. Any thoughts, comments or anything? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
My initial attempt at setting up multiple cockpits is going *very* well for me. Get the one bike; and get what you need to make it three or four bikes as desired. I highly recommed daVinci bar-switch kits for this purpose. They don't address the front brake issue... But... it turns out that if you have a Paul motolite brake up front then simply getting an extra hooked canoe and noodle (moto kit) for each bar really makes things easy. I've got Albatross and Moustache bars set up this way for my Hillborne. Makes it two completely different bikes. The initial set up of the da Vinci splitters is somewhat tedious. But on my very first switch of bars I did not have to adjust a thing; my indexing and brakes were good to go. Definitely more economical than multiple bikes. Yours, Thomas Lynn skean On Aug 25, 5:16 pm, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: I have an Atlantis and a Bombadil; they were similar enough in function (actually, VERY similar) that I stripped the Bomba and am in the process of rebuilding it as a Bullmoose barred, Rohloff-equipped bike of the apocalypse. Which I guess is a roundabout way of saying that I agree with those who are urging you not to make an Atlantis and a Bomba/Hunq your two Riv bikes -- there's a lot of better variety in their offerings, especially the Homer. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rene Sterental Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:05 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails? I started with an AHH and then added a Bombadil with the idea that the AHH would be my road bike and the Bomba would be my MTB/eventual touring camping bike. Both with 700c wheels. The Bombadil proved to be too large and I exchanged it for an Atlantis that ia virtually identical in it's geometry to the AHH which fit perfectly. The smaller Bomba was for 650b tires and I wanted to have the same wheels for both. I second Ray that if you only get one bike, it should be the Atlantis with the extra wheelset The second shouldn't be a Bomba or Hunqua, it should be a Homer. An Atlamtis and a Bba/Hunqua is like having two for the same purpose. The idea of two Atlantis with different bar configurations is quite intriguing... But I'd rather experwnt first, choose the preferred setup and have one bike of each: AHH + Atlantis. I just love them! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. --- --- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at(212) 735-3000and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. === === -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
And have just one bike HAHAHAHAHAHA On Aug 25, 3:47 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: In my opinion, an Atlantis will handle both types of riding no problem. Rather than two bikes, just buy a second set of wheels for the Atlantis and mount knobbies on them. Then you can switch out as needed. RS From: RJM rjme...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 11:14:57 AM Subject: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails? I am looking to get my first of two Rivendells and having a problem deciding which is the best to go with. I have decided that I absolutely need an Atlantis set up as an all-around tourer. I am confused on the next bike though which will be the first one ordered as I don't have a tour planned in the near future. I want a trail- bike that I can take on some of the singletrack nearby but also want it to have a small front and rear rack to be able to carry some bags. The trails aren't too technical and a non-suspended bike with 2 tires should be awesome on them, the racks would be to hold stuff to go on overnight lightweight camping trips. I am looking at either a Bombadil or a Hunqapillar and am stuck deciding which one. I have a PBH of 77 and weigh 220, so a stouter bike is probably the way to go. If I am figuring this right, I would require the smallest size with the whatever frameset I go with. I'm just not sure which one to go with, or if they are even that much different. I guess it comes down to what size wheelset, 650 or 26. What are your opinions on it? Do you think the Hunqapillar would make a better bike for singletracking/camping because of the 26 wheels or would the larger size be better? I like the looks of the paint scheme on the Hunquapillar and the headbadge is killer, but a solid colored powdercoated Bombadil would be a durable bike for many years. I think a white one would be cool looking. Any thoughts, comments or anything? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
RJM: Congrats on planning to get a pair of Rivendells. Now I'll toss in the curve: just buy an Atlantis and a couple of sets of tires. I've been riding mine wherever for over 7 years now. The standard Paselas suffered a bit off road but I've been using 35 mm Schwalbe Marathon Supremes for a few years they work fine on So Cal jeep trails, fire roads, etc. They are a bit narrow for deep sand. The Atlantis is my touring bike, trail bike, riding around town bike. OTH, you could probably tour just as well on a Bomba or Hunq. One of the beauties of Rivendell is that the bikes are simply not that specialized; they do a lot of stuff wonderfully. dougP On Aug 25, 11:14 am, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking to get my first of two Rivendells and having a problem deciding which is the best to go with. I have decided that I absolutely need an Atlantis set up as an all-around tourer. I am confused on the next bike though which will be the first one ordered as I don't have a tour planned in the near future. I want a trail- bike that I can take on some of the singletrack nearby but also want it to have a small front and rear rack to be able to carry some bags. The trails aren't too technical and a non-suspended bike with 2 tires should be awesome on them, the racks would be to hold stuff to go on overnight lightweight camping trips. I am looking at either a Bombadil or a Hunqapillar and am stuck deciding which one. I have a PBH of 77 and weigh 220, so a stouter bike is probably the way to go. If I am figuring this right, I would require the smallest size with the whatever frameset I go with. I'm just not sure which one to go with, or if they are even that much different. I guess it comes down to what size wheelset, 650 or 26. What are your opinions on it? Do you think the Hunqapillar would make a better bike for singletracking/camping because of the 26 wheels or would the larger size be better? I like the looks of the paint scheme on the Hunquapillar and the headbadge is killer, but a solid colored powdercoated Bombadil would be a durable bike for many years. I think a white one would be cool looking. Any thoughts, comments or anything? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Thanks for all the suggestions. I was thinking two bikes because one would have drop bars, barcons and front and rear pannier racks and the other bike, the trail worthy bike, would have bullmoose bars and paul's thumbies with a small front and rear rack. I could probably do with one bike though, maybe with an albatross bar set up and just swap rack setups or wheelsets. It's definately a good idea. I guess one question would be, Would the Atlantis be the better choice or would the Hunqapillar/Bombadil be the better all around bike? I do like the look of the Atlantis frameset, but wonder if a slightly sloping top-tube would be beneficial with my short PBH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Another thought (actually, two thoughts): 1) How about an Atlantis, two wheel sets, two switchable cockpits plus a Roadeo for fast road rides? or, 2) How about an Atlantis as per above, and a Gomez mixte (650b) with Alba bars for errands, commuting, rain (with fenders) and occasional trails? From: RJM rjme...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 2:30:58 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails? Thanks for all the suggestions. I was thinking two bikes because one would have drop bars, barcons and front and rear pannier racks and the other bike, the trail worthy bike, would have bullmoose bars and paul's thumbies with a small front and rear rack. I could probably do with one bike though, maybe with an albatross bar set up and just swap rack setups or wheelsets. It's definately a good idea. I guess one question would be, Would the Atlantis be the better choice or would the Hunqapillar/Bombadil be the better all around bike? I do like the look of the Atlantis frameset, but wonder if a slightly sloping top-tube would be beneficial with my short PBH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: And have just one bike HAHAHAHAHAHA +1 :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
if you can afford two, get three. On Aug 25, 9:33 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: And have just one bike HAHAHAHAHAHA +1 :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Never ridden a Bomba or Hunq; no clue how they would differ from the Atlantis. The Atlantis has a slightly sloping TT. I'm in the overlap region between 58 61, and went with the 58. 100 mm stem, bars set even with the seat no clearance problems or any other fit issues. Riv is pretty easy to work with on questions. See what they think. Better yet, go for a visit. dougP On Aug 25, 2:30 pm, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: I guess one question would be, Would the Atlantis be the better choice or would the Hunqapillar/Bombadil be the better all around bike? I do like the look of the Atlantis frameset, but wonder if a slightly sloping top-tube would be beneficial with my short PBH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
