Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-19 Thread Garth
Grant and Bill, Since I have used the original shifters since they came out, I have not used anything else and have never thought about them needing to be changed. That's where I'm coming from. You know, if it ain't broke and it w

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-19 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
Shifter pos: The "fwd" pos works better, doesn't put the lever too high in the "up" pos. It puts it farther away in the D-pos, but still easily in reach. The lack of metal washer: Ideally it would be oil-stuffed bronze, but that would've been an underappreciated black-hole money-sucker. I've sai

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
Back in 1983-1985, thumb shifters were right on top of the handlebar. The very first Shimano Indexed thumbshifters (6-speed SIS), were out in front by a bit. Just about everybody at that time thought that was better. I sure thought it was better. I do not recall ever wishing somebody moved

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-19 Thread masmojo
I am guessing that the "plastic" lever that Bill mentioned above was made through a rapid prototyping method which yields similar results to a 3D print, but is a different process. You know I love my silver shifters and friction is fine, but I am also OK with indexing, in fact the old Deore XT t

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-19 Thread Garth
I am also curious as to why the washers for the new ones are not metal , as are the original ST thumbies ? On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 12:14:03 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > Short answer is: New washers seem fine. Longer answer is below. > > THey're still not breakproof, but they're

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-19 Thread Garth
For Grant, I do wonder why the position of the new shifter is not like the original, as in directly over the bar instead of well forward of it ? I was so happy to see the shape of the shifter being like he original that I overloked the mount puts the actual shifter well forward of the bar I, ju

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-17 Thread Grant Petersen
We send the place an SLA file and they make it in 3D plastic. It's in SoCal, called...ForeCast, I think. It's a good way to go before metal..! On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Grant > > In the BLUG post, the sample/prototype looks like a white plastic. Was > that white pla

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-17 Thread Bill Lindsay
Grant In the BLUG post, the sample/prototype looks like a white plastic. Was that white plastic sample made by 3D printing? Or was it an SLA(*)? Or did some artisan carve something? I know the actual shifters will be aluminum, and I think it's cast aluminum. Is that right? (*) SLA does no

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-16 Thread Ray Varella
One use that hasn't been mentioned, I use an early Suntour power ratchet thumbshifter for my drag brake on my tandem. I'll definitely be in for a set or two. Ray Vallejo CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe f

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-16 Thread Reid
Grant -- Thank you for the info. I'll keep an eye on the S2 progress and give them a try when available. Reid On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 9:59:31 PM UTC-7, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > They'll be good replacements, yep. The ghost shifts--up in the mid and > upper range, it may take two clic

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-16 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
Short answer is: New washers seem fine. Longer answer is below. THey're still not breakproof, but they're a different plastic than the early ones, and none of these has broken. I've got a bristly take on those washers, probably not a popular one, but here it is-- Plastic (of some sort) is an id

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-15 Thread Lungimsam
I have really enjoyed my Silver bar end and also the Silver DT shifters. So elegant. So smooth shifting. Looking forward to checking these out! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiv

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-15 Thread Grant Petersen
They'll be good replacements, yep. The ghost shifts--up in the mid and upper range, it may take two clicks to lock the gear in. It works...but it can be a challenge. I doubt I'll change my CLEMshifters, but they are a transitional species, maybe. On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Reid wrote: > So

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-15 Thread Reid
So can the S2s be used as a replacement for the stock shifters that came on the Clems? My wife has a Clementine that she just LOVES, but the stock shifters have always given lots of "ghost" shifts, as discussed on this list some time back. I would sure like to replace the shifters with somethin

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-15 Thread dougP
Will the S2 be able to be mounted either conventionally up top on flat bars or on the inside as you've done lately? Seems like the ratchet mech would allow more mounting freedom than say Shimano on Paul's thumbies. I have an ancient pair of BarCons that have never been disassembled & still fun

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-15 Thread Conway Bennett
G, Have you solved the wimpy plastic washer issue? Maybe a thick hard rubber? I remember there were two types of action figures growing up: brittle Gi joes who's thumbs broke off and these heartier more maliable super heroes with a similar but durable Kung fu grip. I don't know why silvers 1

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-15 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
The band mated with the chunk and limited it to 22.2 bars, which was fine back then. It's fiddly to remove and remount (not t fiddly, but you have to remove the lever and go at it with an 8mm socket). NewSilver2 has some sort of curly flower thing going on 360-degrees, which lets you angle

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-15 Thread Joe Broach
So cool! Wish they had "the band." I'm sure the new clamp is 28% better, but holy cow was that hidden bolt band slick. Always seemed like the closest thing I owned to constructeur. I wonder if the deuce will have the same 3 point lever orientation option. Who cares, though, so happy they're back!