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> From: Darryl Thayer <darylsol...@gmail.com>
> Date: 2/21/18 10:28 AM (GMT-10:00)
> To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Li+ Systems Puerto Rico
>
> Jerry, can we see the egauge results?
>
Jerry, can we see the egauge results?
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:59 PM, Jerry Shafer
wrote:
> Wrenches
> We have been doing testing on the Blue Ion over the last several months,
> we have been using PV, back up grid connected charger, we have CT's on DC
> in, PV in,
Wrenches
We have been doing testing on the Blue Ion over the last several months, we
have been using PV, back up grid connected charger, we have CT's on DC in,
PV in, Charger in, and Load out, some days we push to three cycles a day,
other days 1/2 cycle. The Blue Ion BMU has done well keeping
Looks like your choice of LiFe Blue is a good one!
Lee Bristol
Executive Director
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
Global Solace Inc
20530 Beallsville Road
Beallsville, MD 20839
(301) 972-8672
(240) 479-1510 (c)
lee.bris...@globalsolace.org
www.globalsolace.org
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018
Test data is almost as important as will the company will still be there!
That is why I was unhappy that LG Chem (huge company) has decided not to
be a player for Offgrid. Oh well!
Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
"we go where powerlines don't"
http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
e-mail
Test data is important. If you check out most Li battery brands, they copy each
other: “2000 cycles with 80% remaining.” Like Clara Peller said in 1984, “
Where’s the beef?”
One brand of Li battery that we sell, LiFeBlue, has published actual test data
for their cells (Topband). At 1C rate and
" I am looking forward to the migration away from Lead Acid in the years ahead!
"
i gotta reply (off list) to this. as i have said before, i LOVE my flooded lead
calcium wet cells. no, they aren't sexy li-ons, but they are proven technology
for my grid-tied with battery backup application.
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Li+ Systems Puerto Rico
LG has decided not to allow their 48V batteries to be used for offgrid.
The 400V LG and Solar edge is too small to be useful for offgrid in my
opinion and no warranty.
I would add Discover battery to your LF
Larryyes those are big claims (8000 cyclces at 100% DOD!) No I don't
have the data showing that, nor have I seen it. But the marketing has to
be accurate right?! We have installed a few systems with a few more on the
books including one at our office. Will be interesting to see if the real
Wrenches
With all the size limitations of solaredge and even the SMA system,
Outback with the Blue ion has been a very good solution and considering the
programability and DC coupling, Outback just works better. If AGM is your
thing go with Unigee ll, there is alot more work putting it together
If he does not I do. I think I remember reading HALT testing to get the
years. LG claims 6000 cycles at 10% where they shut down. They
wanted me to become a dealer but I would rather buy from AEE or Soligent
and let them deal with sales tax and duty. The Blue color was a bit weird
and the new
Hi Kirpal,
“...8000 cycles (20+ years of daily cycling!!) to 100 depth of discharge…”
I saw that on their website but there is no substantiating data from real cycle
life tests. When Sony introduced this battery, they claimed 2000 cycles at 80%
DoD. For such an extraordinary claim, there must
The Blue planet does not get its data into the Outback and Schneider web
portals for remote monitoring. You have to have both the Blue Planet
monitor and the Outback or Schneider monitor for the inverter data. They
are nice batteries but still around $1,000 per usable kwh. Sony sold their
LFP
Blue Planet - Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are a good option for off
grid and work very well with the Outback Radian inverters. They are rated
at 8000 cycles (20+ years of daily cycling!!) to 100 depth of discharge and
can be monitored remotely. The batteries , like in the Sonnen system are
I was in Puerto Rico last week up in the hills helping train with a
small-ish off-grid combination systems.
What I saw in our training building was a Sonnen system with OB Radian,
Four Sonnen Li batteries, some external circuitry
(relays, etc) and PV using Enphase inverters running in AC
I live in a Caribbean Island and use off-grid solar with grid as backup
when available. We just went through Irma and lost power for three months.
I've lived these solutions.
I wouldn't use anything other than an Outback Radian for this with a DC
charge controller, but finding a good Lithium
Ray,
I think your biggest issue may be SolarEdge. They told us the StorEdge
unit would not start up without grid power. We had an employee install
one anyway on his tiny home. He hooked it up to the grid initially to get
it started (in back of shop where house was built). He is not sure how
LG has decided not to allow their 48V batteries to be used for offgrid.
The 400V LG and Solar edge is too small to be useful for offgrid in my
opinion and no warranty.
I would add Discover battery to your LFP list. They communicate by canbus
and Xanbus to Schneider XW and CSW gear.
It is too bad
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