[RE-wrenches] Li+ Systems Puerto Rico

2018-02-19 Thread Ray
Greetings Wrenches; We are designing several systems for Puerto Rico, and while these will eventually could be grid tied once the grid returns, they will need to operate reliably in off grid mode possibly for a year or more.  What is everyone's experiences with the Storedge and LG setup?  I've

Re: [RE-wrenches] Li+ Systems Puerto Rico

2018-02-19 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
LG has decided not to allow their 48V batteries to be used for offgrid. The 400V LG and Solar edge is too small to be useful for offgrid in my opinion and no warranty. I would add Discover battery to your LFP list. They communicate by canbus and Xanbus to Schneider XW and CSW gear. It is too bad

Re: [RE-wrenches] Li+ Systems Puerto Rico

2018-02-19 Thread Matt Partymiller
Ray, I think your biggest issue may be SolarEdge. They told us the StorEdge unit would not start up without grid power. We had an employee install one anyway on his tiny home. He hooked it up to the grid initially to get it started (in back of shop where house was built). He is not sure how si

Re: [RE-wrenches] Li+ Systems Puerto Rico

2018-02-19 Thread Chris Mason
I live in a Caribbean Island and use off-grid solar with grid as backup when available. We just went through Irma and lost power for three months. I've lived these solutions. I wouldn't use anything other than an Outback Radian for this with a DC charge controller, but finding a good Lithium soluti

Re: [RE-wrenches] Li+ Systems Puerto Rico

2018-02-19 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
I was in Puerto Rico last week up in the hills helping train with a small-ish off-grid combination systems. What I saw in our training building was a Sonnen system with OB Radian, Four Sonnen Li batteries, some external circuitry (relays, etc) and PV using Enphase inverters running in AC co

Re: [RE-wrenches] Li+ Systems Puerto Rico

2018-02-19 Thread Kirpal
Blue Planet - Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are a good option for off grid and work very well with the Outback Radian inverters. They are rated at 8000 cycles (20+ years of daily cycling!!) to 100 depth of discharge and can be monitored remotely. The batteries , like in the Sonnen system are

Re: [RE-wrenches] Li+ Systems Puerto Rico

2018-02-19 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
The Blue planet does not get its data into the Outback and Schneider web portals for remote monitoring. You have to have both the Blue Planet monitor and the Outback or Schneider monitor for the inverter data. They are nice batteries but still around $1,000 per usable kwh. Sony sold their LFP batte

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2018-02-19 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems
Hi Kirpal, “...8000 cycles (20+ years of daily cycling!!) to 100 depth of discharge…” I saw that on their website but there is no substantiating data from real cycle life tests. When Sony introduced this battery, they claimed 2000 cycles at 80% DoD. For such an extraordinary claim, there must b

Re: [RE-wrenches] Li+ Systems Puerto Rico

2018-02-19 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
If he does not I do. I think I remember reading HALT testing to get the years. LG claims 6000 cycles at 10% where they shut down. They wanted me to become a dealer but I would rather buy from AEE or Soligent and let them deal with sales tax and duty. The Blue color was a bit weird and the new model

Re: [RE-wrenches] Li+ Systems Puerto Rico

2018-02-19 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches With all the size limitations of solaredge and even the SMA system, Outback with the Blue ion has been a very good solution and considering the programability and DC coupling, Outback just works better. If AGM is your thing go with Unigee ll, there is alot more work putting it together but