Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Power

2006-02-13 Thread Mike Morris
At 04:30 PM 2/12/06, you wrote: Chances are nobody will notice. But then again, they probably wouldn't notice if you put a 3 dB pad between your duplexer and receiver either... I have tried the experiment of going up to the site for a couple hours, and not even opening the door..

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Power

2006-02-13 Thread mch
Well, exactly how tall WERE the weeds and how far off the ground is your antenna? :-P Joe M. Mike Morris wrote: Locally the Forest Service requires twice a year weed whacking around the building. So we go up, open the door, plug in the extension cords, do the deed, and leave. Then we

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Battery Back-up Question

2006-02-13 Thread Michael Shaffer
What you really need to do is a load analysis to see how much average current you are using over a larger period of time. 10 amps might be the peak, but most equipment spends the majority of the time at idle current. very simplified- you could take 4.6 amps/hour for about 100 hours. real

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Battery Back-up Question

2006-02-13 Thread Doug Zastrow
Kevin, Before I take a stab at this could you give me a rough estimate of the physical size of the battery? Where I'm headed with this is I'm trying to ascertain if your cells are truly rated at 460 amperes for a 10 hour duration or whether it's actually 460 ampere-hours (amps multiplied

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Battery Back-up Question

2006-02-13 Thread N9WYS
Kevin, Given a power consumption of 10A, 460Ah batteries will give you about 46 hours of stand-by use... The formula I used was: (available) 460Ah / 10A (consumption) = 46 hrs (time) Whether the over 10 hours affects the equation I'm not certain... If it does, maybe 460 hrs is more like it.

[Repeater-Builder] Linking repeaters

2006-02-13 Thread Ian
Hi guys .I am interested to find out the better ways to link multiple repeaters together.At the moment i am using for each link 2 data radios back to back on a site between the sites but this is a slow way to link 3 or 4 sites together using one repeater site as the central site with all the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power

2006-02-13 Thread Mike Perryman
Ray, I may be able to be of assistance in this area grab a cup of decaf, and read on... It sounds as if these guys are working on a buffer based system. AS FM Broadcasting rules have been referenced before, we will call this approach the 73.207 approach, which is a minimum distance type of

[Repeater-Builder] MTR2000 repeaters Link

2006-02-13 Thread hm2006 robin
I need advise about making link between 2 (MTR2000) repeaters .?? and if in case to making link between the VHF(MTR2000) and HF (Codan SR),what we must do ?Thanks Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Cheap Tunnel Heatsink

2006-02-13 Thread Dave VanHorn
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Variable 1 amp to 100 amp. 12v to 60volt. Brett Not on that heatsink... 6000W? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe

[Repeater-Builder] excellent 6M ANT

2006-02-13 Thread B W
I found the Hy Gain V6R to be an excellent choice of antenna for 6M repeater Very Rugged and well designed. Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on

[Repeater-Builder] Tram Antenna Recomendations?

2006-02-13 Thread DCFluX
I am looking for a replacement antenna for my X50A. Someone turned me on to Tram a while back and I had some questions. Does anyone have a website for them? Also who is a good distributor? and what antenna offers the most gain on 2M? YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit

[Repeater-Builder] Best Place to by MRFXXX power devices

2006-02-13 Thread roger.white
I need to buy a replacement for a MRFXXX device I blew up over the weekend. I know RF Parts has these, but have no experience with them. Is there any other place you guys have used that you would recommend? Roger W5RD Roger White Murphy, Texas Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best Place to by MRFXXX power devices

2006-02-13 Thread DCFluX
RF parts has a good selection of parts in stock, but their shipping leaves a little to be desired.On 2/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to buy a replacement for a MRFXXX device I blew up over the weekend. I know RF Parts has these, but have no experience with them.Is

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Linking repeaters

2006-02-13 Thread Jim Cicirello
We have had a multiple repeater linking system for several years that has worked flawlessly. The system is VHF (several VHF Repeaters) that is linked together using a Hub Repeater. A friend Leon N2HLT, you can see his site on the web by entering his call) has a UHF system that has about fifteen

[Repeater-Builder] generators diesel to propane

2006-02-13 Thread skipp025
The pain of dealing with the local goverment regs really put a wet blanket on back-up Diesel Generator operation. You can reduce the headache over 50% by using, converting or conversion to propane where possible and most often more practical. cheers, skipp Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED]

6 meter pairs (was RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power)

2006-02-13 Thread Bob Dengler
At 2/12/2006 06:44 PM, you wrote: I had to produce a ton of studies for my 6m pair. I based my studies on Sounds as if you actually had trouble finding a clear 6 meter pair. Here in SoCal we have many vacant pairs on 6; is 6 really that popular in your area? Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups

RE: 6 meter pairs (was RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power)

2006-02-13 Thread Mike Perryman
Bob, DC through blue light is popular in my area grin... I live just South of Washington DC. We have probably the highest per-capita density of hams in the nation. You should be around for a VHF and above contest weekend... tough to find a spot operate!! Check this

RE: 6 meter pairs (was RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power)

2006-02-13 Thread Mike Perryman
Sorry, it appears that the page has been modified to only show one zipcode.. you used to be able to zoom out and populate the map. Doesn't appear to be true any longer... the link is in the left-hand column.. 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From:

Re: 6 meter pairs (was RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power)

2006-02-13 Thread Bryan Fields
On Monday 13 February 2006 12:34 pm, Mike Perryman wrote: I really wanted a 500kHz split so that I could use the heliax-duplexer approach.. Well you can build the heliax duplexer for any split you want. Jeff's newer design using a hybrid ring is truly cool, but alas I dont have VNA (yet) so

RE: 6 meter pairs (was RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power)

2006-02-13 Thread Mike Perryman
I am already crystalled-up for 500kHz... and the heliax-duplexer is already built and working fine. I am contemplating a move to Texas soon. Allotments are much easier to come by there. 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

[Repeater-Builder] 220 Notch Cavities for Sale

2006-02-13 Thread John Everson
Hello to the group. I am cleaning things out here and I have 2 pair of 220 notch cavities for sale. They are 3 1/4 square and 12 long, N conns. and silver plated. I also have some mini-hardline cables that came with them if someone wanted to build a notch duplexer with them. Asking $75 a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Power

2006-02-13 Thread Mike Morris
Well, the community RX antenna was at 120 feet (transmission-line powered preamp up the ass of the antenna), and the transmit antenna was at 80 feet... Based on the reports, the 6 to 9 high weeds were having an effect best described as being anywhere between -6db and +10db. Mike WA6ILQ At

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Cheap Tunnel Heatsink

2006-02-13 Thread John J. Riddell
The element out of an Electric furnace works well for very large currents John VE3AMZ - Original Message - From: Dave VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:01 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Cheap Tunnel Heatsink --- In

[Repeater-Builder] UHF Power Amplifier

2006-02-13 Thread Bob M.
Besides Henry Radio, who else makes a continuous-duty, repeater service, stand-alone, add-on UHF power amp that will accept around 20 watts of drive and produce 150-200 watts, in the 440-450 MHz range? Operation on +14VDC would be preferred. Reliability, quality of workmanship, and service are

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power Amplifier

2006-02-13 Thread Maire-Radios
Volt-com they also have another name but it is still them. 1-800-USA-MAKE We have 6 in service for a number of years and have never had to do anything to them. Very happy with them. Maire Communications Florida - Original Message - From: Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Power

2006-02-13 Thread N9WYS
Mike, I think the original question was supposed to be how *high* is your antenna... Think Cheech and Chong; Oh wow, Man!! Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morris Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:18 PM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram Antenna Recomendations?

2006-02-13 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Repeater-Builder is a Tram distributor. What model are you looking for?? Their largest is a 1491.It's 14' 10" tall. It's listed as having 3 5/8 waves. 7.8dB (open for discussion) and is rated at 90MPH wind speed. They also have 6.7 dB versions and 4.5 dB versions. I have no personal

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power Amplifier

2006-02-13 Thread N9WYS
TPL makes one: 20-30W drive = 300W output. http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=36628eventPage=1 There are several that make 150W output - TPL and Crescend come to mind; I'm sure there are probably others. It seems like 150W is the break point -- some do not manufacture

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Battery Back-up Question

2006-02-13 Thread Kevin Natalia
Hi Doug, The battery is made up of 6x 2 volt cells. Each cell is large, can be lifted by one person, but not easy or light. (Talking from lifting them myself) Each cell is about 400mm high, 200mm wide, and 130mm deep. They have 2 positive and 2 negative terminals. The casing is heavy clear

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram Antenna Recomendations?

2006-02-13 Thread DCFluX
Repeater-Builder is a Tram distributor. What model are you looking for?? What models can I get? Is there a website listing the companies offerings? At the moment I am looking for a high gain VHF replacement for the short diamond we got stuck with when the pole at the new repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Battery Back-up Question

2006-02-13 Thread Doug Zastrow
Kevin, Thank you for the dimensions... That helps a lot. I took a look at several different lead-acid batteries at work today and calculated an AMPERE-HOURS per cubic inch factor. Applying that to the dimensions of your cells I am almost certain the battery specification you are seeing

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram Antenna Recomendations?

2006-02-13 Thread Kevin Custer
DCFluX wrote: Repeater-Builder is a Tram distributor. What model are you looking for?? What models can I get? Is there a website listing the companies offerings? http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/antennas.html Anything larger? Sorry, no... Is it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power Amplifier

2006-02-13 Thread Maire-Radios
have had more problems with the TPL amps and lighting and they have gone back for more repairs than the Crescend/Volt-com units. Also have one TE but when ordered it was to be 150 watts out with 5 watts in. on freg 460.xxx got the amp it max is 137 watts and never could get 150 watts out.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Power

2006-02-13 Thread Nate Duehr
Mike Morris wrote: Well, the community RX antenna was at 120 feet (transmission-line powered preamp up the ass of the antenna), and the transmit antenna was at 80 feet... Based on the reports, the 6 to 9 high weeds were having an effect best described as being anywhere between -6db and

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Power

2006-02-13 Thread dalite01
I could fix that problem with a short piece of Scotch 33 Black over the reporting station's S-Meter :) Mike Morris wrote: Based on the reports, the 6 to 9 high weeds were having an effect best described as being anywhere between -6db and +10db. Mike WA6ILQ Mike Morris wrote: Locally

Re: Radio quality (was RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power)

2006-02-13 Thread Nate Duehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of which, I look with despair at Yaesu's newest offering, the FT-1802, which STILL doesn't have split tone. We need more complaints sent into the big 3 about this. Know you're probably not looking for such a full-featured rig for mobile VHF/UHF repeater

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Quintron Paging Transmitter - manuals needed

2006-02-13 Thread na6df
Dennis, I believe the one I had long before that one was a QT-350, but it had a crystal controlled exciter.. other than that, I dunno.. NA6DF --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I've been given a compete Quintron paging

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power Amplifier

2006-02-13 Thread Michael Shaffer
Hi Bob, Spectrum Communications http://www.spectrumcoms.com/ I had to mention this company it's been over a year since the last Spectrum flame war :) Mike --- Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides Henry Radio, who else makes a continuous-duty,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3611

2006-02-13 Thread Rodney Baker
On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 18:51 +, Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com wrote: Message: 14 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 01:17:03 -0800 (PST) From: hm2006 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MTR2000 repeaters Link I need advise about making link between 2 (MTR2000) repeaters

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Power

2006-02-13 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Never underestimate the power of suggestion. Chuck WB2EDV Dave VanHorn wrote: I have tried the experiment of going up to the site for a couple hours, and not even opening the door.. Then ask if anyone notices any difference in performance. :) You get a feeling for who is going to

Re: 6 meter pairs (was RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power)

2006-02-13 Thread Chuck Kelsey
We've got lots of paper 6-meter repeaters around here. Either that or they work terribly. Chuck WB2EDV Bob Dengler wrote: At 2/12/2006 06:44 PM, you wrote: I had to produce a ton of studies for my 6m pair. I based my studies on Sounds as if you actually had trouble finding a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Duplexer

2006-02-13 Thread Q
Where are you located? Logistics areeverything... n4rpd wrote: Greetings, I am in desperate need of technical help. I have been attempting to repair a VHF repeater for a non-profit organization that needs this box for a portable setup to support parades and special events. The setup is two

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best Place to by MRFXXX power devices

2006-02-13 Thread Q
You may try posting the part number here,may be some lurking around out there...whats the mystery? DCFluX wrote: RF parts has a good selection of parts in stock, but their shipping leaves a little to be desired. On 2/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] generators diesel to propane

2006-02-13 Thread Mark A. Holman
The Diesel Generators are fine just local govt regulations, however propane LP Gas are cheap source of fuel. mark h. skipp025 wrote: The pain of dealing with the local goverment regs really put a wet blanket on back-up Diesel Generator operation. You can reduce the headache over 50%

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best Place to by MRFXXX power devices

2006-02-13 Thread Mark A. Holman
I just ordered some stuff there apparently I was told the Engineer is unavailable, and someone else is moving to another office I asked for an email confirmation I will hope to get my parts @ the end of this week. So we will wait - n - see . mark h. ab8ru DCFluX wrote: RF parts has a good

[Repeater-Builder] Need info on Getting COS out of an HT600

2006-02-13 Thread ag4uw
Hi Group Can anyone tell me how to get COS out of an HT600?? I wont to use it for Linking. Thanks Freddy Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:

[Repeater-Builder] 900 mhz question

2006-02-13 Thread Bill Wilson
Looking for info on building a 900 mhz ham repeater. Bill N2XKO Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] generators diesel to propane

2006-02-13 Thread Dick
Well, gang, I'm a dedicated diesel nut with a Case 580 backhoe, a John Deere 1070 utility tractor, a Dodge/Cummins pickup and I just sold my old 1981 Mercedes Benz 300 SL turbodiesel. However, when it came time to install a standby generator for my home, I opted for a propane powered

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 mhz question

2006-02-13 Thread Dick
What do ya need, Bill. I have a friend here who has a bunch of 900 MHz narrow-band radios. I have no interest in this, just FYI. 73, Dick W1NMZ in southern CA - Original Message - From: Bill Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 13 February, 2006 17:45

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 mhz question

2006-02-13 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Dick wrote: What do ya need, Bill. I have a friend here who has a bunch of 900 MHz narrow-band radios. I have no interest in this, just FYI. Check out the 900mhz and AR902 groups here on yahoogroups. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Battery Back-up Question

2006-02-13 Thread Eric Lemmon
Kevin, I suspect that you have lead-acid wet cells, which emit corrosive vapors and hydrogen gas when charging. Be very careful to enclose these cells in containers that are vented to the outside air. Normally, one would use sealed, nonspillable cells for such duty. Your rough calculations are

[Repeater-Builder] Parts order newest message

2006-02-13 Thread Mark A. Holman
Well it seems that RF Parts co has someone at UPS or some affiliate sent me an email and that I should get my parts on Febuary 15th Wed. so being that I spent $134.00 on the card I will let everyone know the results unless the Weather Channel TV 8 TV 3 weather forecast says snow and snows

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram Antenna Recomendations?

2006-02-13 Thread Scott Zimmerman
DCFluX, The antennas listed on the page Kevin gave are only a few of what is available. I will try to get some time tomorrow to get a few morelisted. The ones listed on the page currently are the ones we normally stock. I am going to try and get a few more different kinds so we can have a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Best Place to by MRFXXX power devices

2006-02-13 Thread dalite01
Title: Message I ordered a set of 2SC1972 and a 2SC1971 from them around last Tuesday (2/07), Delivery is scheduled (via UPS) on the 16th of this month. I know these weigh in under a pound and Priority Mail would have it here in 3 days foor around $4.00. I am betting UPS charge will be

Re: Radio quality (was RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power)

2006-02-13 Thread no6b
At 2/13/2006 16:01, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of which, I look with despair at Yaesu's newest offering, the FT-1802, which STILL doesn't have split tone. We need more complaints sent into the big 3 about this. Know you're probably not looking for such a full-featured

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Power

2006-02-13 Thread Mike Perryman K5JMP
Or a vivid imagination grin!! 73 Mike K5JMP www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 7:47 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Power

RE: 6 meter pairs (was RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power)

2006-02-13 Thread Mike Perryman K5JMP
I see you picked up on the reference to politics that I wasn't very hip to... I know of at least one director who has about a dozen pairs on various bands 73 Mike K5JMP www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck

Re: Radio quality (was RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power)

2006-02-13 Thread Nate Duehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was happy to find that the FT-857 will HAPPILY do split-tone. Yes, but kind of ridiculous to use an 857 just for VHF/UHF. That's why you just use it for ALL the bands it'll work and enjoy the split-tone feature in the process! ;-) (Ooh, I was s close to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power Amplifier

2006-02-13 Thread N9WYS
I just listed that one because that's what he was indicating he wanted... I have a Crescend on the air now, and it's working beautifully. Besides, I believe it was the informed masses here that recommended Crescend in the first place!! :-) -Original Message- From:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power Amplifier

2006-02-13 Thread Steve Bosshard
There are 2 Henry 3CX800A7 Amps on ebay right now - a 2M 2002 and a 432, 2004A. Nice ampsQRO Did VOCOM evolve into Crescend??? Sure make reliable amps... NU5D Steve -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of N9WYS Sent: Monday,