Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater

2008-09-03 Thread MCH
Where did you hear that? It's certainly not true. 1.7 MHz is the split in some areas, but others use 0.5, 1.0, or 1.6 MHz. Joe M. The 1.7 mhz is the new aloted band plan split for 6 meter band in the US.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater

2008-09-03 Thread MCH
Those and the local bandplan in your area. There is no national 6M bandplan in the repeater sub-bands. In fact, there is no national bandplan in ANY of the repeater sub-bands. The last one that was national was 440, but that saw its demise with part of CA changing to 20 kHz channel spacing

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater

2008-09-03 Thread MCH
Not true. The FCC has upheld local bandplans. Coordinated or not - they apply to everyone. It doesn't even have to be a repeater issue. True, as long as no interference is created, they likely won't get involved, but if there is, and one user is operating according to the bandplan and the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6 meter repeater

2008-09-03 Thread MCH
Most antenna specs in the band are for 800 kHz max. That's why our area has 500 kHz splits - for duplexed repeaters. We also have 1.0 MHz splits. As any 1.7 MHz bandplan would destroy the 500 kHz split band, I don't foresee that happening here anytime soon. There is also the fact that everyone

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 Tone Issue, PL 131.8 opens cor, non 131.8 keys repeater but no audio

2008-08-31 Thread MCH
Sounds like they are using a DPL - any of which will have the turn off code of 134.0 Hz transmitted at the end of the transmission. Joe M. n9lv wrote: I have the analog MSF5000 repeater that has the Cat300DX repeater controller installed. Not sure if this has been this way all along, but

Re: [Repeater-Builder] M-PA manual

2008-08-30 Thread MCH
What's to know? The top button can be channels or PL depending on the programming. The scan button is obvious. The menu button takes care of the rest. Joe M. n9wys wrote: Anyone have (perchance) a copy of LBI38377 – Operator’s Manual for the M-PA portable? I was just *_given_* one (a UHF

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram antenna

2008-08-28 Thread MCH
Tram antennas are. well, let's just say you got what you paid for. I don't think I've ever seen a similar antenna that was lower in cost. Joe M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am currently in Montana and working on a ham repeater using a Tram antenna. I seem to have a lot of desense. Have

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Registered Sex Offenders

2008-08-11 Thread MCH
In the USA, anyone can sue anyone at any time for any reason. They don't have to even have a valid case to file a suit. Granted, it won't 'go far', and they will most likely lose (unless you get a judge who likes to make law rather than interpret it), but they can still file against you. So,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Registered Sex Offenders

2008-08-11 Thread MCH
That would be an interesting case. Does any group of people have the right to demand use of YOUR license and YOUR equipment? Remember - these are not public transmitters - they are private transmitters owned by you and the license is granted to you. As such, the FCC is on record as confirming

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Registered Sex Offenders

2008-08-09 Thread MCH
Their offender status doesn't matter. You can ban anyone from your repeater for any reason at any time. Do what was suggested - write them a registered letter and CC the FCC. Then, if they still use your repeater the FCC may be able to take action against them. I can't think of any rule that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Registered Sex Offenders

2008-08-09 Thread MCH
That statement implies that they have a civil right to use your station. The FCC is quite clear that you are responsible for your own station, and you have the right to say who uses or does not use your repeater. They have no right to force you to allow them to use your repeater. Joe M. Jim

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 narrow banding

2008-07-31 Thread MCH
GLB made them and called them a channelizer. Joe M. Wayne wrote: There were some frequency synthesizers made for the GE Prog lines, and a few others, back in the 70's to 80's, though I think they were mainly for ham radio use. I had, for a while, a prog line base on 2 meters with a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] List Policy - ALL READ!!!!

2008-07-27 Thread MCH
There are no 1st amendment rights on a private list. It's what you want to allow - period. Joe M. Scott Zimmerman wrote: Tom and all, Since the list postings on this topic have moved on, let's let well enough alone. If you feel that I am infringing on your 1st amendment rights; by all

Re: [Repeater-Builder] So I watched it NBC Dateline story on Tower Climbers

2008-07-23 Thread MCH
Which for the record is exactly typical for a 1-hour show. 40 minutes of content and 20 minutes of commercials. The same is true for 30 minute shows - 20 minutes of show plus 10 minutes of commercials. Joe M. Nate Duehr wrote: Saves a hell of a lot of time too... a 1 hour show took about

Re: [Repeater-Builder] PL Problem

2008-07-19 Thread MCH
Spec is either 500 Hz or 750 Hz (0.5 kHz or 0.75 kHz) depending on who you 'talk to'. Joe M. Ron Wright wrote: PL is usually aroung 800 Hz. 1 K little high, but should not cause a problem unless the problem radio's PL circuits are being over driven. I would get the problem radios on a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] PL Problem

2008-07-19 Thread MCH
I guess I should clarify that. Talk to means depending on whose manufacturer's specs you are looking at. Some are 500, and some are 750 for NBFM. Joe M. MCH wrote: Spec is either 500 Hz or 750 Hz (0.5 kHz or 0.75 kHz) depending on who you 'talk to'. Joe M. Ron Wright wrote: PL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies

2008-07-17 Thread MCH
Sounds like a government spec... when 15 is really 12. Joe M. Ron Wright wrote: I would think one could get 15 amps due to the breaker able to handle it or are 15 amp breakers designed to trip at just above 12 amps??? 73, ron, n9ee/r

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 narrow banding

2008-07-16 Thread MCH
Or the MTR2000. Joe M. Ron Wright wrote: The MSR2000 does not have a syntheser...it is crystal controlled. Maybe you are thinking of the MSF5000, hi. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: nj902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/07/16 Wed AM 11:07:26 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Reasonably low wind load antenna

2008-06-26 Thread MCH
I've been trying to get a replacement cable for a Hygain HG-52SS. They recommended TT as the only possible (emphasis on that word) source. So, who would you recommend for them? Joe M. Larry Wagoner wrote: At 05:11 PM 6/24/2008, you wrote: Doesn't Texas Towers and other such vendors sell

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Simulating a weather alert

2008-06-01 Thread MCH
I'm pretty sure my RX has the ability to ignore the test message. I know I ignore virtually all advisories, most watches, and even some warnings. Joe M. Ron Wright wrote: Joe, I don't think you can block the weekly test unless it is sent as what one might call a test to all SAME code

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mice and the trusty old GE Master Pro

2008-05-24 Thread MCH
Don't tubes age just sitting on a shelf? What year were they made? Joe M. Thomas Oliver wrote: I still have a bunch of brand new tubes for Mastr Pro Stuff. tom n8ies [Original Message] From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/23/2008 9:15:53 PM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor)

2008-05-24 Thread MCH
If it had the FM exciter, that's a pretty good deal. Joe M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5/23/2008 16:39, you wrote: Dayton 2008 Chuckle (Tac-Tec - humor) Just another Dayton 2008 bit of seller humor. One flea market space had a stack of 6 large RCA Tac Tec Mobiles for sale at a modest

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Source - Part Deux

2008-05-21 Thread MCH
Naaa... that was Naked Gun 2 1/2. (followed by Naked Gun 3 1/3) Hot Shots used Part Deux. Joe M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:04 PM 5/21/2008, you wrote: If you watch any of the I love the 70's, 80's or 90's TV Programs on MTV or VH1... they been using the Part Deux hook for some years

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sunday at Dayton - Part Deux

2008-05-20 Thread MCH
You won't once they find out you did the 'end around' on them! They will freeze/suspend your account. Joe M. Brian wrote: As I had used a debit card for this I just called them and explained the situation. They put the remainder of the money in my checking account the next day and that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-19 Thread MCH
When it comes to a coordination, what term CAN you use with the FCC since they have no term for the holder of a coordination? You can't call that person a licensee since the coordination is not a license. Trustee is an appropriate term in any sense of the word since that person is entrusted

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-19 Thread MCH
. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome. On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:54 PM, MCH wrote: When it comes to a coordination, what term CAN you use with the FCC since

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-19 Thread MCH
are welcome. On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:54 PM, MCH wrote: When it comes to a coordination, what term CAN you use with the FCC since they have no term for the holder of a coordination? You can't call that person a licensee since the coordination is not a license

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-17 Thread MCH
or not. When hams communicate with the FCC or try to interpret the regs with undefined or incorrect vocabulary, misunderstandings arise. (Remote base comes to mind.) 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - *From:* MCH mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Repeater-Builder

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Control Link

2008-05-17 Thread MCH
Don't confuse auxiliary operaton with a Remotely controlled station. The latter was quite legal in 2M even before the rules change. Joe M. Nate Duehr wrote: Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: Speaking of which, if I read it correctly, 2-meters is now available for auxiliary stations. Anybody dared

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-17 Thread MCH
Hmmpf... to sit hear and be insulted... calling me an attorney... sheesh. ;-P (no disrespect to the law professionals on the list). I'm not one of them (other than knowing my responsibilities and rights), and I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. But, I am in a different

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Control Link

2008-05-17 Thread MCH
There is no specifics for AUX in the WPA bandplan (on purpose). People using SkyCommand and the like are encouraged to use the 145.510 - 145.670 MHz segment on a SNP basis. Joe M. Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: Ron, Have you seen any sort of bandplan for auxiliary operation on 2 meters

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Control Link

2008-05-17 Thread MCH
But the users at the control points transmit. In WPA, such links are coordinated for a particular radius in which the station is coordinated. It helps assure that the receiver does not receive interference from other such links. Joe M. Kris Kirby wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008, Ron Wright wrote:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DSTAR / DIGITAL / FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digital

2008-05-16 Thread MCH
So what's the answer: 1. Try to make room elsewhere for D* or 2. Encourage Icom to make dual mode repeaters so those with analog systems can simply swap them out and support both modes. I would try for the latter in the spirit of cooperation and upgrade ease on the part of the users. Once

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-16 Thread MCH
A licensee is a person who is authorized to do something. A trustee is a person *entrusted* with something. (That's the legal definition of a trustee) That something could be a repeater or a coordination or a license, or any combination of these. In the case of my repeaters, I'm trustee of all

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-16 Thread MCH
How could they stop it when they are still issuing vanity club calls (which a local club just got one of within the last month or so)? BTW, all licenses have trustees. All repeaters have trustees. All coordinations have trustees. When the time comes there is no trustee for any one of these,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DSTAR / DIGITAL / FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digital

2008-05-16 Thread MCH
According to the math, 15 kHz won't work for analog repeaters. The math is also responsible for the umpteen 6M bandplans in use across the USA. It's not pure math. If only it were It's more art and opinion than pure math. Joe M. Bill Powell wrote: Do the math: If you can't divide the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-15 Thread MCH
Every repeater has a trustee just like every license has a trustee. It may not be the same person, but often times it is. My local coordination entity requires that *IF* the trustee of the coordination is a club, the trustee is the trustee for the FCC license. Now, can we get off the semantics

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coordination?

2008-05-14 Thread MCH
Depends on the coordinator's policies. Joe M. w2drh wrote: I think I must be confused. I was under the misapprehension that if one modified the physical location (moved the repeater), had their license expire, moved out of the area (where direct control of the repeater was not possible), or

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

2008-05-11 Thread MCH
A simple flip flop chip should work nicely. Joe M. Rich Summers wrote: I need to build a simple circuit to enable a voice scrambler in a radio. What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a button so that the activation lead goes to ground and when this happens I need an led indication

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

2008-05-11 Thread MCH
For that matter, why not just a toggle switch? Joe M. Rich Summers wrote: I need to build a simple circuit to enable a voice scrambler in a radio. What I need is a momentary contact by pressing a button so that the activation lead goes to ground and when this happens I need an led indication

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some help

2008-05-11 Thread MCH
contact to switch off the board. This contact will be using an enable wire from the board and another wire that is a ground. I think a flip flop MAY be the way to go. I was also wondering if there is a push button switch that has 2 spst contacts? Thanks. --- MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Gain (WAS antenna question - Dip Itand Scotch Kote)

2008-05-10 Thread mch
I think the difference is 2.1 dB. Joe M. I think what ever standard, dbi or dbd, one can interupt the differences. The main problem is the number in front...is it real. Most Ham antennas it is not and only db should be stated and can be interuped as dbwn...db with respect to a wet noodle

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digita

2008-05-08 Thread MCH
You know a lot of this problem could go away of they would only make dual mode repeaters like P25 systems are. Then, you could replace an existing repeater and simply ADD the D-STAR mode to the area. That way, you could have just as many D-STAR repeaters as analog repeaters with the same

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-07 Thread MCH
I haven't had as many problems with lightning and the fiberglass antennas as I have with wind causing fractures in the connections between the elements. In the case of the coasts, you have to deal with that AND salt, so I doubt there is any good solution. The above said, I do believe the 224

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote

2008-05-05 Thread MCH
So what color(s) did you use to camouflage them? Joe M. Scott Overstreet wrote:  Hello All A couple of years ago I needed to camoflodge several new fiberglass antennas. I investigated spray can paints at the local home store and came up with Rustolum's specialty Paint For

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote

2008-05-04 Thread MCH
You don't care if the cup of water heats up - you are looking to see if the painted cup heats up. The water is only there to prevent burning out the microwave. Joe M. Burt Lang wrote: Fine except for one problem. Water is an excellant absorber of the microwaves used in the microwave ovens

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote

2008-05-04 Thread MCH
procedure. I can see the purpose of the water now although I still don't believe that an empty oven will burn out easily. If that was true, most of the ovens in the country would now be dead because most everyone is guilty of turning on one with little or nothing in it. Burt MCH wrote

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need....

2008-05-02 Thread MCH
That was a problem in the mid-80s on 147.135 out there. Anytime you get a huge audience like that, and get a group of people who may have had a few too many, you can expect problems. Or, maybe it's someone who doesn't like the Hamvention. Part of the problem too is say you track it down to a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need....

2008-05-02 Thread MCH
Oh - there are lots of ways to him him (or her - let's be PC here). But, enforcement is another issue entirely. By the time all the hoops are jumped through, the event is over and the person is likely hundreds or thousands of miles away if they are not a local. Face it - they may not even be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] A maxtrac question a little OT..

2008-05-01 Thread MCH
Look into a device made by Quickmount (I think that's who made the dual control head interface). Although in the case of an ambulance, having dual radios would be advantageous - the rear could be on the MED channel (or equal) while the front remains on dispatch to keep tabs on what else is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-23 Thread MCH
Same difference if they cut the light power lines. Guess anyone with a lit tower would be guilty of it, then. Joe M. Barry C' wrote: Premeditated manslaugther .. MM nah thank but no thanks To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-23 Thread MCH
I thought towers and repeaters went together like chocolate and peanut butter... No, no difference - especially if it's marked like I said. I've never seen the power lines for the tower lighting marked, so if they cut through that or they cut through the tower lighting lines that are fed via

Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-23 Thread MCH
. The station off the air only upsets the tower/radio stn owners. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/23 Wed AM 01:10:54 CDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft Same difference if they cut the light

Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-23 Thread MCH
Wow. Guess that power company will be brought up on charger for manslaughter. ;- Joe M. Paul Finch wrote: Guess you guys did not see the email floating around about the thief that was stealing wire from a power substation and grabbed the wrong wire with his insulated side cutters. Short

Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-22 Thread MCH
Well, how about feeding 220 (and I'm not talking the MHz variety) through a piece of Heliax to feed something on the tower like a light? (or even as an unterminated open circuit) That way, when the cut through it with the rest, SURPRISE! The guy who was stealing the cable will be the body

Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-22 Thread MCH
My way is prevention. Once they hit that Heliax, they don't be hitting any more tower sites - preventing the next guy and likely saving some of your lines. Your way is just passing the problem on to the next site. (not meant as criticism per se) By weeding out all the scum, the problem is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-22 Thread MCH
But, they don't know the value of that, and likely don't have any outlets to get money from it. But, they DO know the value of copper, and there are plenty of scrap yards.. BUT, you would think that the first few cuts would have deterred them since the majority of the metal is NOT copper - as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass Antenna, information wanted

2008-04-21 Thread MCH
Gain is 4.5 dB. It's reduced from the 6 dB of the 150 MHz version since they can't fit as many elements in it due to the frequency. Not sure about the bandwidth offhand. Joe M. Joe wrote: Does anyone have the spec sheet for the Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass Antenna PD-220 for 2

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Super StationmasterT Omni Fiberglass Antenna, information wanted

2008-04-21 Thread MCH
I thought it was 4.5, but I'll accept your figure of 4.8 dB. Interestingly enough, that Wiscointl link someone provided says 5.25 for the entire 136-174 MHz segment (except the DT model). Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: Joe, RFS/Celwave continues to manufacture the Super StationMaster antennas

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT

2008-04-19 Thread MCH
List NAME??? Joe M. Paul Finch wrote: Hello, If interested there is now a Dayton Hamvention group on Yahoo. Sounds like the Dayton people put it up to help, not many people on it yet. Just thought I would mention it. Paul No virus found in this outgoing message.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT

2008-04-19 Thread MCH
Still waiting for the list name Joe M. MCH wrote: List NAME??? Joe M. Paul Finch wrote: Hello, If interested there is now a Dayton Hamvention group on Yahoo. Sounds like the Dayton people put it up to help, not many people on it yet. Just thought I would mention it. Paul

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB-224 problem

2008-04-12 Thread MCH
I thought all the elements were fed in phase... Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: And yes, one element fed out-of-phase will screw up the pattern.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS: GE Phoenix VHF 2ch.

2008-04-04 Thread MCH
But, they can get unstable at low temperatures. Joe M. Rob wrote: Hi all, I've got a number of GE Phoenix 2 channel VHF transceivers that make good link radios, IRLP/Echolink, dedicated repeater monitors, weather receivers, etc. Before they go up on eBay, I'd wanted to offer them here.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coordinating DSTAR freq with current analog 2M/440 rptrs

2008-04-01 Thread MCH
I would go with the .80/40 since both duplexers will be rejecting both TXs nearly to the maximum. I would keep the UHF close for the same reasons. Joe M. johnmichaelwelton wrote: We are investigating the possibility of adding 2M/440 DSTAR. At the university, we currently have the following

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coordinating DSTAR freq with current analog 2M/440 rptrs

2008-04-01 Thread MCH
Running 1 mile of feedline to the existing antennas?!? :-O ;- Joe M. DCFluX wrote: I'd go with 50 to 100 kHz spacing from the analog channel and use circulators for the transmitters and a spliter to allow operation through the existing antenna and duplexer system, Like IBOC. On 4/1/08,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 24 vdc to 12vdc

2008-03-24 Thread MCH
Yes, there are devices to drop the voltage. Astron makes some. There are also ones that will give you positive 13V from a negative 13V system. (old Mack trucks, for example) Joe M. Rick Charlotte wrote: I hope some one on the group can help me out here I want to put a radio in a jeep

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using Alinco DR-605 Dual Band Mobiles for Repeater

2008-03-24 Thread MCH
Actually, it is perfectly legal to have them there. The part that is illegal is *transmitting* there. Many units have RX coverage on those frequencies from the factory. Joe M. Paul Finch wrote: Rob, The Alinco equipment is NOT FCC type accepted for commercial service of any kind.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] The emails we get at repeater-builder....

2008-02-29 Thread MCH
I'll save you even more by buying your Angles for $3 each! ;- Joe M. Ken Arck wrote: At 06:13 PM 2/28/2008, you wrote: (click on the link and look at it - it's obviously intended for a scanner. The $2 suggests that there probably isn't much there...) Awww damn! And here I was

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wide Band / Narrow Band

2008-02-18 Thread MCH
, MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another point: The only scanners that support the new SNFM channels are those that also support trunking. Most scanners support trunking these days. You can get a scanner that supports SNFM and trunking for a couple hundred dollars. P25 scanners cost much

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater - ID?

2008-02-02 Thread MCH
Actually, the 'RC' indicates a Micor Unified Chassis and the 'B' indicates 120V AC Power source. And the '1' listed as N/A means 25 kHz channel spacing for that band. Joe M. Eric Lemmon wrote: Mike, The C64RCB-3105AT (I'm pretty sure the Y is actually a T) station is described as: C =

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 10 Meter Repeater

2008-01-29 Thread MCH
Why can the same ID not be used for both as long as it is part of the same system? Joe M. Kevin Custer wrote: MCH wrote: Are you talking about the ID aspect or the control (enable/disable TX) aspect? Joe M. Both.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 10 Meter Repeater

2008-01-29 Thread MCH
) than it is to buy a DTMF controller that has no ID functionality. Kevin MCH wrote: Why can the same ID not be used for both as long as it is part of the same system? Joe M. Kevin Custer wrote: MCH wrote: Are you talking about the ID aspect or the control (enable/disable TX

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Name this PL board.

2008-01-29 Thread MCH
Ralph. It's named, now. ;- Seriously, it reminds me of an old aftermarket board. Does it use round tone reeds? Joe M. Ronny wrote: Picture in group files http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/photos/view/e85b?b=4 If you know what it is and/or have the pinout/docs for it I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 10 Meter Repeater

2008-01-28 Thread MCH
612 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 10 Meter Repeater Shouldn't the controller be at the 10M RX site so the link is ID'ed

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 10 Meter Repeater

2008-01-28 Thread MCH
Shouldn't the controller be at the 10M RX site so the link is ID'ed too? It's the 10X TX site that can be 'dumb'. That's the way mine is. Joe M. Scott Zimmerman wrote: Tom, The method I have built for customers is using split sites. (transmitter at one site and receiver at another) These

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 10 Meter Repeater

2008-01-28 Thread MCH
Sure. Why not? Joe M. Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco wrote: Can you link the sites through the internet and they be most anywhere? [Image]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 10 Meter Repeater

2008-01-28 Thread MCH
Are you talking about the ID aspect or the control (enable/disable TX) aspect? Joe M. Kevin Custer wrote: MCH wrote: Shouldn't the controller be at the 10M RX site so the link is ID'ed too? It's the 10X TX site that can be 'dumb'. That's the way mine is. To be perfectly legal

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC110 Group

2008-01-25 Thread MCH
John in Tucson - Original Message - From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC110 Group That was my first thought, too. But, when someone talks about the dead RC110 group, and you post

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC110 Group

2008-01-25 Thread MCH
with the RC110 group in terms of activity? Or was your 'Duh!' meant for yourself because you misread the post? Joe M. WD7F - John in Tucson wrote: Duh ! - Original Message - From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 3:13 PM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Stupid Question about Db antennas.

2008-01-25 Thread MCH
It should not matter what direction(s) they are pointed in. As you said, they can be changed from omni (all 4 directions) to all in one direction without changing anything else. It's all the same antenna. You can point two in one direction and the other two 90 degrees off those and leave a null

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC110 Group

2008-01-25 Thread MCH
The 210 group is different than the 110 group. Joe M. WD7F - John in Tucson wrote: Really? I get mail from [RC210] rc210 at yahoogroups.com every day. Wonder what that's about. - Original Message - From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola radios on ham

2008-01-21 Thread MCH
Is that published somewhere? Joe M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an HT1550 portable in the 450-512 split. There is a hack to let it operate on 440 frequencies, and it works. Unfortunately, it involves using field programming so that is the only model that will work. Hope that helps.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola radios on ham

2008-01-20 Thread MCH
go several MHz out of band without issue. Try doing that with a CDM. I know of nobody who has gotten one to do 449.9875 and 470.0125 in one radio. Joe M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:23:58 -0500, MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Motorola has become very ham

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola radios on ham

2008-01-20 Thread MCH
. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buying A$TRO radios is not an acceptable answer. As for the Spectras, I've had no problem with a UHF Spectra going to 440 and 470. The only thing I hate about them is the primitive CSQ channel priority. Even

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola radios on ham

2008-01-20 Thread MCH
Name two that were designed within the last 5 years. I don't care how many older radios would or how long Motorola has made radios so they still have a large percentage of radios that will. I want a modern radio that will cover 440-476 MHz. I know I can get an 80s radio that will, and I know

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola radios on ham

2008-01-20 Thread MCH
to be done by a firmware/software hack in the radio .. not the CPS. If anyone is up to that, I would love to know. James MCH wrote: That's my point. I don't want to use a radio made 15 years ago - I want to use a current model (A CDM for example). These radios will not go out of band

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur repeater ID's

2008-01-19 Thread MCH
I can't give you a case, but the reason is because it would be a beacon which is not allowed on the repeater bands. (although many repeaters do that) Joe M. George Henry wrote: Can anyone point me to the specific enforcement case or warning letter where the FCC first said that regular,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola radios on ham

2008-01-18 Thread MCH
system on it. You will never hear any other channels. The Maxtrac would go several MHz out of band without issue. Try doing that with a CDM. I know of nobody who has gotten one to do 449.9875 and 470.0125 in one radio. Joe M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:23:58 -0500, MCH [EMAIL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola radios on ham

2008-01-15 Thread MCH
Most of the newer Motorola radios are like that. If the band is X to Y, forget about taking it to Y.005. The radio will do it, but the SW will not. I wish I could get a 27 MHz spread out of an HT750 to do 444-473 MHz. So far, nobody has been able to do it. I just programmed a radio yesterday

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread MCH
But, how is that related to the transition to digital? The same could have happened with simple channel reassignment. Joe M. Hap Griffin wrote: Actually, there will be a huge amount of spectrum freed up. Currently, the television allocation is from channel 2 through channel 69. After

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread MCH
over a half million $$$ in electrical costs per year. We expect it to be cut to about one third of that after next year. Hap Griffin WZ4O - Original Message - From: MCH To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread MCH
N8DJP --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else here seen the bull put out by NTIA on https://www.dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspx = 1. What is the digital television transition? At midnight

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread MCH
Yes, PGH is all UHF. As I mentioned, look at Harrisburg's DTV allocations. They have one on Channel 2. (I pity their 6M activities as much as I rejoice PGH's channel 2 going away) Joe M. Kevin Custer wrote: MCH wrote: will free up airwaves for use by emergency responders.??? The TV

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread MCH
I have yet to see any station share their DTV channel with another station. (which would save spectrum) So, there may be more content, but station WXYZ will still use the full 6 MHz. If my local area is any indication, they will simply add channels such as full time traffic and WX. (like you need

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread MCH
Many of my local channels are using tags that have the ANALOG channel name. For example, while KDKA TV-2 DTV is on channel 25, the tag is 2-1 which is what you enter to see that channel. Either they are going to move back to channel 2 or things are going to get even more confusing if you have a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread MCH
-- From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many of my local channels are using tags that have the ANALOG channel name. For example, while KDKA TV-2 DTV is on channel 25, the tag is 2-1 which is what you enter to see that channel. Either they are going to move back to channel 2 or things are going to get

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: (scanning repeater receivers) Linking two shared repeaters

2008-01-05 Thread MCH
I checked NARCC and SCRRBA. Who has the 600 kHz splits? Joe M. skipp025 wrote: Gareth describes a very creative application with frequency agile receivers scanning various commercial repeater inputs. In the ham world we've applied scanning repeater receivers to our six-meter repeaters,

[Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-05 Thread MCH
Has anyone else here seen the bull put out by NTIA on https://www.dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspx = 1. What is the digital television transition? At midnight on February 17, 2009, all full-power television stations in the United States will stop

Re: Cheap P25 repeater using mobile rigs (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New f...

2007-12-30 Thread MCH
VSLEP is proprietary, isn't it? If so, it's not an open standard. Joe M. Dan Blasberg wrote: Since when isn't VSLEP allowed on the ham bands?? It is IMBE just a different scheme using the same vocoder. Dan KA8YPY On Dec 28, 2007, at 6:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is only

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 10 meter desense help, split site, high noise floor.

2007-12-26 Thread MCH
That's nice, but the ARRL does not make the rules, and I can find nothing in Part 97 about AUX frequencies being limited to a single user. There is a saying about opinions and how everyone has one. The ARRL is no different. Joe M. Paul Plack wrote: I'm afraid you've missed the ARRL's point.

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