[Repeater-Builder] Looking for information
I am looking for any type of manual for an ICM VS2000 repeater controller. Our club has inherited a repeater with one of these controllers and we need to change some options on it, like the repeater ID, hang time, ect. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks Jay - K5GUD Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) Accessory pinouts for GM399
Mama Mo's bible: http://www.batlabs.com Charlie Charles Mumphrey Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater: 441.325 Mhz + 162.2 Kc5ozh Dallas Repeater: 441.950 Mhz + 162.2 Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 823 http://www.CharliesElectronics.com http://www.hello-radio.org/ Original Message Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) Accessory pinouts for GM399 From: Charles Schmell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, March 30, 2006 7:00 am To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Gareth - Do you mean GM 300? never heard of the 399. Charles --- Gareth Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody have the accessory pinouts available for the Motorola GM399 Mobile (rear option connector?) ... Or even better, a scanned manual that I could download? Thanks in advance _ Gareth Bennett Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: desnse on community sites
Hi Ian, A lot of us in the US have to sit back and look at the information you wrote and do the translation to values we have here in the US. (... he says laughing to himself) There are a hundred plus questions that need to be asked to get the best picture of what's going on with your repeater system. Your mention of the rx scratch without a transmitter on is key issue. You don't say how much other rf is in the area? ... at other sites? ... or what else is in the area. A few things come to mind first.. First the antennas are omnis and have you tried changing them around to the other repeaters? Do the antennas have a true DC ground return path? Are the antennas fiberglass radomes (covers) or are they the exposed metal type construction? The notch pass duplexers might be a larger issue if you hadn't said the tx doesn't have to be on for the problem to show up. But the duplexers might not have a true dc ground path through the probes/loops. You might check for that. Does the feedline/coax have grounding kits on them? Regarding your tower leg clean up... many people will make up ground braid - short jumper straps that screw into the tower legs over the original tower joints. There's a lot about doing that well out of the scope of this chat, but it's another way of reducing problems in older tower systems. Static build up in wind might mean the antennas, duplexer or various combinations of... might not have a dc path (aka dc bleed path) to ground. Static problems in dry or drier weather conditions would be a possible indication of this problem. but not exclusive to.If the notch duplexers and the antenan(s) don't go to dc/rf/station/system ground, you could swap things around (antenna/duplexer type) to sort through the causes. Your turn... skipp Ian Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys .I have a small problem that i have been trying to sort out for a while now .I have 5 repeaters operating on one of my sites 3 vhf low band and 2 uhf band.The frequencies are as follows VHF A-TX 70.300MHZ RX 72.800MHZ fitted with 4 1.5 meter by 4 inch meter tins-most likely a notch diplexer3db colinear ant FM828E B-TX 70.5875MHZ RX 73.0875MHZ fitted with 4 1.5 meter by 4 inch meter tins-most likely a notch diplexer3db colinear ant FM828E C-TX 70.725MHZ RX 73.225MHZ fitted with a new band pass/band reject possibly a varinotch 3db colinear antFM828E UHF D- TX 473.575 RX 478.775MHZ fitted with mobile notch diplexer 6mc450s 6db colinear ant MAXON PM150/SM4450SC E- TX 489.1MHZ RX 483.900MHZ fitted with 6ld450s diplexer 6db colinear ant MAXON PM150/SM4450SC All coaxes are Heliax from antennas to Diplexers with N connectors Interconnecting cables between diplexers and radios are rg223u A and B are a 1.5 meter apart with C in the middle All antennas are mounted aprox 50 cms or more away from C or each other . D and E have a 1.5 meter between them ie- D AC B E I am at times having desense (ie scratch ) especially in windy weather occuring on repeaters B and D.It doesn't seem to affect the desense wether the transmitters are txing or not .There isnt any problem of the repeaters affecting each other ,they all work great just the problem of scratch coming and going .A,C and E do get scratch on occasion but no where as bad as D and B.D and B works great sometimes (clear with no scratch)and then reception will slowly develope major scratch and then slowly clear up -possibly electrostatic or wind moving the antennas ?.I have been fixing loose bolts on the windmill tower to stop problems incase of tower twist and this affecting service.I am wondering if there are any futher sugestions . Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: desnse on community sites
Hi Ian, Thanks skip A lot of us in the US have to sit back and look at the information you wrote and do the translation to values we have here in the US. (... he says laughing to himself) There are a hundred plus questions that need to be asked to get the best picture of what's going on with your repeater system. Your mention of the "rx scratch" without a transmitter On is key issue. You don't say how much other rf is in the area?... at other sites?... or what else is in the area. The nearest repeaters near my tower are over 1km away A few things come to mind first.. First the antennas are omnis and have you tried changing them around to the other repeaters? Looking into trying that Do the antennas have a true DC ground return path? Are the antennas fiberglass radomes (covers) or are they The exposed metal type construction? Fiberglass The notch pass duplexers might be a larger issue if you hadn't said the tx doesn't have to be on for the problem to show up. But the duplexers might not have a true dc ground path through the probes/loops.You might check for That. When B repeater is operating and one of the other repeaters come online then it doesn't affectB's transmission and vise versa.The scratch seems to only affect a particular repeater when its operating .It doesnt seem to be a intermod / interference between repeater problem With one of our rf companies over here advise to go to band pass,band reject over notch diplexers when on community sites.The 2 vhf repeaters that i advised (A+B) have notch tins (one connection in top) but also have a small hole in top with a tunning cap notch .The diplexer feedlines are rg214 on both of these repeaters as the new diplexer on D are N connectors direct to RG223 patch leads to the repeater and it seems to work ok Does the feedline/coax have grounding kits on them? Not yet but looking into it Regarding your tower leg clean up... many people will make up ground braid - short jumper straps that screw into the tower legs over the original tower joints. There's a lot About doing that well out of the scope of this chat, but it's another way of reducing problems in older tower systems. ok good idea Static build up in wind might mean the antennas, duplexer or various combinations of...might not have a dc path (aka dc bleed path) to ground. Static problems in dry or drier weather conditions would be a possible indication of this problem. One thought that did come to mind is that when one of these repeaters operate the antennas near it could be getting enough rf to excite something and generate sparks and could get more problems as the antennas move in the wind as i did read somewhere vertical fiberglass antennas sometimes break elements . but not exclusive to.If the notch duplexers and the antenan(s) don't go to dc/rf/station/system ground, you could swap things around (antenna/duplexer type) to sort through the causes. Your turn... skipp "Ian Wells" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys .I have a small problem that i have been trying to sort out for a while now .I have 5 repeaters operating on one of my sites 3 vhf low band and 2 uhf band.The frequencies are as follows VHF A-TX 70.300MHZ RX 72.800MHZ fitted with 4 1.5 meterby 4 inch meter tins-most likely a notch diplexer3db colinear ant FM828E B-TX 70.5875MHZ RX 73.0875MHZ fitted with 4 1.5 meter by 4 inch meter tins-most likely a notch diplexer3db colinearant FM828E C-TX 70.725MHZ RX 73.225MHZfitted with a new band pass/band reject possibly a varinotch 3db colinear antFM828E UHF D- TX 473.575 RX 478.775MHZ fitted with mobile notch diplexer 6mc450s6db colinear ant MAXON PM150/SM4450SC E- TX 489.1MHZ RX 483.900MHZfitted with 6ld450s diplexer 6db colinear ant MAXON PM150/SM4450SC All coaxes are Heliax from antennas to Diplexers with N connectors Interconnecting cables between diplexers and radiosare rg223u A and B are a 1.5 meter apart with C in the middle All antennas are mountedaprox 50 cms or more away from C or each other . D and Ehave a 1.5 meter between them ie- D AC B E I am at times having desense (ie scratch ) especially in windy weather occuring on repeaters B and D.It doesn't seem to affect the desense wether the transmitters are txing or not .There isnt any problem of the repeaters affecting each other ,they all work great just the problem of scratch coming and going .A,C and E do get scratch on occasion but no where as bad as D and B.D and B works great sometimes (clear with no scratch)and then reception will slowly develope major scratch and then slowly clear up -possibly electrostatic or wind moving the antennas ?.I have been fixing loose bolts on the windmill tower to stop problems incase of tower twist and this affecting service.I am wondering if there are any futher sugestions . Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Pl tone encode decode methods
I have installed tone boards on my micor repeater but had some questions as to what is the best way to handle PL tones. I have at the moment installed 2 TN-34 Standard tone boards(1 for decode and 1 for encode) and it works fine. Encodes as long as the repeater transmitter is up. Do any repeaters only use the 1 board mode and only encode upon decode of a signal? This, of course, would mean that the repeater ID and courtesy tone would not be heard by the stations unless they have PL decode turned off. Anybody think one way is better then another? Seems a waste to use 2 boards when 1 will do. Just curious what others thoughts are regarding this. Thanks Steve Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] New addition to tower site - WHat is it?
Top of the Repeater Site Tower has a new addition. What is the large round item mounted near the Stationmaster antenna? Yea - I know it is another antenna - application/ Freq? TV? Link? I only have access to the building on the ground - not the penthouse on top of the tower - so I can not peek inside. Need INPUT Thanks Ron attachment: 100_0303.jpg These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. Try it out here: http://picasa.google.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ attachment: 100_0303.jpg
Re: [Repeater-Builder] New addition to tower site - WHat is it?
Either a rain guage or an Omni-directional 2GHz-5GHz microwave reciever antenna, possibly for ENG use by helicopters or live shot trucks. On 3/30/06, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top of the Repeater Site Tower has a new addition. What is the large round item mounted near the Stationmaster antenna? Yea - I know it is another antenna - application/ Freq? TV? Link? I only have access to the building on the ground - not the penthouse on top of the tower - so I can not peek inside. Need INPUT Thanks Ron attachment: 100_0303.jpg These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. Try it out here: http://picasa.google.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Pl tone encode decode methods
Steve, We use two boards but switch the encode on only when the input tone is present. The reason for this is it facilitates the use of cross band radios. The tone drops out before the courtesy tone and tail so the guys doing cross banding can access the repeater in normal time. I prefer having the tone present during courtesy and ID, it helps eliminate timing out by the guys using PL decode, but its not possible in this scenario. 73, Scott Madison, WN1B --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed tone boards on my micor repeater but had some questions as to what is the best way to handle PL tones. I have at the moment installed 2 TN-34 Standard tone boards(1 for decode and 1 for encode) and it works fine. Encodes as long as the repeater transmitter is up. Do any repeaters only use the 1 board mode and only encode upon decode of a signal? This, of course, would mean that the repeater ID and courtesy tone would not be heard by the stations unless they have PL decode turned off. Anybody think one way is better then another? Seems a waste to use 2 boards when 1 will do. Just curious what others thoughts are regarding this. Thanks Steve Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: desnse on community sites
Ian Wrote: I am at times having desense (ie scratch ) especially in windy weather occuring on repeaters B and D. It doesn't seem to affect the desense wether the transmitters are txing or not. There isnt any problem of the repeaters affecting each other, they all work great just the problem of scratch coming and going .A, C and E do get scratch on occasion but no where as bad as D and B. D and B works great sometimes (clear with no scratch)and then reception will slowly develope major scratch and then slowly clear up -possibly electrostatic or wind moving the antennas? Maybe try these? http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/staticbusterorder.html Sounds like you have corona or charged dust particles. Kevin YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: New addition to tower site - WHat is it?
Ron, Its a ENG antenna see http://www.nsystems.com/NSI_Products/SuperquadSilhouette/SuperquadSilh ouette.htm I think that will answer your wuestion...it is steerable from remote. Lloyd KD4HTW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top of the Repeater Site Tower has a new addition. What is the large round item mounted near the Stationmaster antenna? Yea - I know it is another antenna - application/ Freq? TV? Link? I only have access to the building on the ground - not the penthouse on top of the tower - so I can not peek inside. Need INPUT Thanks Ron attachment: 100_0303.jpg These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. Try it out here: http://picasa.google.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] New addition to tower site - WHat is it?
Seen some before like that for internet access. Maybe the same there. - Original Message - From: Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] New addition to tower site - WHat is it? Top of the Repeater Site Tower has a new addition. What is the large round item mounted near the Stationmaster antenna? Yea - I know it is another antenna - application/ Freq? TV? Link? I only have access to the building on the ground - not the penthouse on top of the tower - so I can not peek inside. Need INPUT Thanks Ron attachment: 100_0303.jpg These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. Try it out here: http://picasa.google.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Pl tone encode decode methods
I use two separate boards for encode and decode to allow fast switching for an EchoLink link radio. The TS 64 used for encode only provides tone when the receiver is unsquelched and is decoding the proper subaudible tone (yellow lead I think on the TS64). Since I listen to the repeater at home mostly, I'm also not bothered by the squelch tail and the ID. Sounds more like simplex conversations than a repeater. 73 John KU4RW -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wn1b8 Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Pl tone encode decode methods Steve, We use two boards but switch the encode on only when the input tone is present. The reason for this is it facilitates the use of cross band radios. The tone drops out before the courtesy tone and tail so the guys doing cross banding can access the repeater in normal time. I prefer having the tone present during courtesy and ID, it helps eliminate timing out by the guys using PL decode, but its not possible in this scenario. 73, Scott Madison, WN1B --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed tone boards on my micor repeater but had some questions as to what is the best way to handle PL tones. I have at the moment installed 2 TN-34 Standard tone boards(1 for decode and 1 for encode) and it works fine. Encodes as long as the repeater transmitter is up. Do any repeaters only use the 1 board mode and only encode upon decode of a signal? This, of course, would mean that the repeater ID and courtesy tone would not be heard by the stations unless they have PL decode turned off. Anybody think one way is better then another? Seems a waste to use 2 boards when 1 will do. Just curious what others thoughts are regarding this. Thanks Steve Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] desnse on community sites
Have you tried common earthing of the feeders? Do the radios have good shielding between them (metal cases no plastic). Have you looked at the site with a good specan? Is the sound you are hearing antenna flutter? 80 MHz Cols what brand are they? We found over here in the west we replaced cols with 4 stack dipoles because of flutter and bad joints internally. I really think it is time to check with a good Spectrum Analyser. You may be surprised what you see coming done the feeders from the other txers. Make sure you look at the rx freqs when they are all in rx only, you may well find that you have a sprogy rxer basically txing into you other rxers. Cheers Brett - Original Message - From: Ian Wells To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:33 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] desnse on community sites Hi guys .I have a small problem that i have been trying to sort out for a while now .I have 5 repeaters operating on one of my sites 3 vhf low band and 2 uhf band.The frequencies are as follows VHF A-TX 70.300MHZ RX 72.800MHZ fitted with 4 1.5 meter by 4 inch meter tins-most likely a notch diplexer 3db colinear ant FM828E B-TX 70.5875MHZ RX 73.0875MHZ fitted with 4 1.5 meter by 4 inch meter tins-most likely a notch diplexer3db colinear ant FM828E C-TX 70.725MHZ RX 73.225MHZ fitted with a new band pass/band reject possibly a varinotch 3db colinear ant FM828E UHF D- TX 473.575 RX 478.775MHZ fitted with mobile notch diplexer 6mc450s 6db colinear ant MAXON PM150/SM4450SC E- TX 489.1MHZ RX 483.900MHZ fitted with 6ld450s diplexer 6db colinear ant MAXON PM150/SM4450SC All coaxes are Heliax from antennas to Diplexers with N connectors Interconnecting cables between diplexers and radios are rg223u A and B are a 1.5 meter apart with C in the middle All antennas are mounted aprox 50 cms or more away from C or each other . D and E have a 1.5 meter between them ie- D A C B E I am at times having desense (ie scratch ) especially in windy weather occuring on repeaters B and D.It doesn't seem to affect the desense wether the transmitters are txing or not .There isnt any problem of the repeaters affectingeach other ,they all work great just the problem of scratch coming and going .A,C and E do get scratch on occasion but no whereas bad as D and B.D and B works great sometimes (clear with no scratch)and then reception willslowlydevelope major scratch and then slowly clear up -possibly electrostatic or wind moving the antennas ?.I havebeen fixing loose bolts on the windmill tower to stop problems incase of tower twist and this affecting service.I am wondering if there are any futhersugestions . Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed
I am looking for information on the Micor station " battery charger" power supply, TPN1106A. Thisunit has a large cast aluminum heatsink on the rear side of it, and a TLN5298 stamped on the chassis as well.This unit provides charging for stand by batteries as well as powering the station. No manual that I have found has any info on these supplies. For example, where does the battery hook up? Across the output? Anyone have a print or any info?\ Lance Alfieri N2HBA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed
Lance, I have one as well, never have been able to find out much though. Yes, the batteries attach across the main output. Somewhere inside there is a voltage adjustment that you set according to battery specs. A switch on the back labeled float (normal position) and equalize (highr charge voltage, to equalize the batts)... I have also been told there is a function for outputting a beep to the audio to indicate loss of mains... but can't verify any of this. It doesn't appear in any of my manuals... So mine sits dormant, and I use a Xantrex C-35 and solar array... mains go and washing machine relay un-latches to engagde batts hillbilly-hombrew kind of thing! Did you ever locate the manual for the S-1323A Deviation Meter / Sinadder? I never heard back... 73MikeK5JMPwww.k5jmp.us -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CaptainlanceSent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:51 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed I am looking for information on the Micor station " battery charger" power supply, TPN1106A. Thisunit has a large cast aluminum heatsink on the rear side of it, and a TLN5298 stamped on the chassis as well.This unit provides charging for stand by batteries as well as powering the station. No manual that I have found has any info on these supplies. For example, where does the battery hook up? Across the output? Anyone have a print or any info?\ Lance Alfieri N2HBA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed
Lance, The manual you seek is still in print, and is available from Motorola Parts for $ 5.61. It is publication 6881104E92. It covers the TPN1105A and TPN1106A power supplies, as well as the optional battery protection and alarm system. And yes, the battery connects directly to the same large Jones terminals as the PA. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CaptainlanceSent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:51 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed I am looking for information on the Micor station " battery charger" power supply, TPN1106A. Thisunit has a large cast aluminum heatsink on the rear side of it, and a TLN5298 stamped on the chassis as well.This unit provides charging for stand by batteries as well as powering the station. No manual that I have found has any info on these supplies. For example, where does the battery hook up? Across the output? Anyone have a print or any info?\ Lance Alfieri N2HBA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed
Well I have a new in the box unit and a number of them on repeaters. Have some paper work around here someplace will look for it over the weekend and if found will pass the info on. I know there is a pot you adjust it about 2 volts above the battery to keep it charged but it is done as to what type of battery you are using. - Original Message - From: Mike Perryman K5JMP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:16 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed Lance, I have one as well, never have been able to find out much though. Yes, the batteries attach across the main output. Somewhere inside there is a voltage adjustment that you set according to battery specs. A switch on the back labeled float (normal position) and equalize (highr charge voltage, to equalize the batts)... I have also been told there is a function for outputting a beep to the audio to indicate loss of mains... but can't verify any of this. It doesn't appear in any of my manuals... So mine sits dormant, and I use a Xantrex C-35 and solar array... mains go and washing machine relay un-latches to engagde batts hillbilly-hombrew kind of thing! Did you ever locate the manual for the S-1323A Deviation Meter / Sinadder? I never heard back... 73MikeK5JMPwww.k5jmp.us -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of CaptainlanceSent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:51 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed I am looking for information on the Micor station " battery charger" power supply, TPN1106A. Thisunit has a large cast aluminum heatsink on the rear side of it, and a TLN5298 stamped on the chassis as well.This unit provides charging for stand by batteries as well as powering the station. No manual that I have found has any info on these supplies. For example, where does the battery hook up? Across the output? Anyone have a print or any info?\ Lance Alfieri N2HBA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] New addition to tower site - WHat is it?
That is a TV Electronic News Gathering (ENG) antenna. Most likely a NSI or Nurad Super Quad model. They have been around for a long time and there are lots of them around. Inside the radome is a fiberglass cosecant squared antenna that is about 4 feet tall with a CP antenna feed mounted out the front. It for sure is for receiving 1990 to 2110 MHz and may also be equipped for 2.5 GHz, 6.7 to 7.3 GHz or even 12.7 to 13.2 GHz. There were receiving converters available for the higher bands over the years. Now they are using Analog FM but in the next 2 years Nextel will be paying to convert everything to COFDM Digital. The analog systems are pretty site friendly, the digital is something different but being this is a receive site you should be OK. The analog transmitters generally run 10 to 15 watts into a 24 Db gain antenna which is a decent ERP, the Digital transmitters are more like 2 to 7 watts into the same gain. Like Bob Dylan said times they are a changing. Jack (A TV Guy) K6YC - Original Message - From: Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:33 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] New addition to tower site - WHat is it? Top of the Repeater Site Tower has a new addition. What is the large round item mounted near the Stationmaster antenna? Yea - I know it is another antenna - application/ Freq? TV? Link? I only have access to the building on the ground - not the penthouse on top of the tower - so I can not peek inside. Need INPUT Thanks Ron attachment: 100_0303.jpg These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. Try it out here: http://picasa.google.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed
Thanks Eric, I will get that one ordered... the washing machine relay thing has always bothered me! Just not into hillbilly engineering if there is a better way... and once again you come through with the goods! 73MikeK5JMPwww.k5jmp.us -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Eric LemmonSent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:18 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed Lance, The manual you seek is still in print, and is available from Motorola Parts for $ 5.61. It is publication 6881104E92. It covers the TPN1105A and TPN1106A power supplies, as well as the optional battery protection and alarm system. And yes, the battery connects directly to the same large Jones terminals as the PA. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CaptainlanceSent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:51 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Power Supply help needed I am looking for information on the Micor station " battery charger" power supply, TPN1106A. Thisunit has a large cast aluminum heatsink on the rear side of it, and a TLN5298 stamped on the chassis as well.This unit provides charging for stand by batteries as well as powering the station. No manual that I have found has any info on these supplies. For example, where does the battery hook up? Across the output? Anyone have a print or any info?\ Lance Alfieri N2HBA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] New addition to tower site - What is it?
Here's a link to that antenna's manufacturer: http://www.nsystems.com/NSI_Products/SuperquadSilhouette/SuperquadSilhouette .htm or for a TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/lkroo 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:24 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New addition to tower site - WHat is it? That is a TV Electronic News Gathering (ENG) antenna. Most likely a NSI or Nurad Super Quad model. They have been around for a long time and there are lots of them around. Inside the radome is a fiberglass cosecant squared antenna that is about 4 feet tall with a CP antenna feed mounted out the front. It for sure is for receiving 1990 to 2110 MHz and may also be equipped for 2.5 GHz, 6.7 to 7.3 GHz or even 12.7 to 13.2 GHz. There were receiving converters available for the higher bands over the years. Now they are using Analog FM but in the next 2 years Nextel will be paying to convert everything to COFDM Digital. The analog systems are pretty site friendly, the digital is something different but being this is a receive site you should be OK. The analog transmitters generally run 10 to 15 watts into a 24 Db gain antenna which is a decent ERP, the Digital transmitters are more like 2 to 7 watts into the same gain. Like Bob Dylan said times they are a changing. Jack (A TV Guy) K6YC - Original Message - From: Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:33 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] New addition to tower site - WHat is it? Top of the Repeater Site Tower has a new addition. What is the large round item mounted near the Stationmaster antenna? Yea - I know it is another antenna - application/ Freq? TV? Link? I only have access to the building on the ground - not the penthouse on top of the tower - so I can not peek inside. Need INPUT Thanks Ron attachment: 100_0303.jpg These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. Try it out here: http://picasa.google.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] desnse on community sites
hey Brett, Please do us a favor and adjust your email client so it doesn't send email in HTML. HTML has no place in an email.. The font was so small I needed a magnifying glass to read it and I have 20/20 vision. Brett wrote: Have you tried common earthing of the feeders? Do the radios have good shielding between them (metal cases no plastic). Have you looked at the site with a good specan? Is the sound you are hearing antenna flutter? 80 MHz Cols what brand are they? We found over here in the west we replaced cols with 4 stack dipoles because of flutter and bad joints internally. I really think it is time to check with a good Spectrum Analyser. You may be surprised what you see coming done the feeders from the other txers. Make sure you look at the rx freqs when they are all in rx only, you may well find that you have a sprogy rxer basically txing into you other rxers. Cheers Brett - Original Message - *From:* Ian Wells mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:33 AM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] desnse on community sites Hi guys .I have a small problem that i have been trying to sort out for a while now .I have 5 repeaters operating on one of my sites 3 vhf low band and 2 uhf band.The frequencies are as follows VHF A-TX 70.300MHZ RX 72.800MHZ fitted with 4 1.5 meter by 4 inch meter tins-most likely a notch diplexer3db colinear ant FM828E B-TX 70.5875MHZ RX 73.0875MHZ fitted with 4 1.5 meter by 4 inch meter tins-most likely a notch diplexer3db colinear ant FM828E C-TX 70.725MHZ RX 73.225MHZ fitted with a new band pass/band reject possibly a varinotch 3db colinear antFM828E UHF D- TX 473.575 RX 478.775MHZ fitted with mobile notch diplexer 6mc450s 6db colinear ant MAXON PM150/SM4450SC E- TX 489.1MHZ RX 483.900MHZ fitted with 6ld450s diplexer 6db colinear ant MAXON PM150/SM4450SC All coaxes are Heliax from antennas to Diplexers with N connectors Interconnecting cables between diplexers and radios are rg223u A and B are a 1.5 meter apart with C in the middle All antennas are mounted aprox 50 cms or more away from C or each other . D and E have a 1.5 meter between them ie- D AC B E I am at times having desense (ie scratch ) especially in windy weather occuring on repeaters B and D.It doesn't seem to affect the desense wether the transmitters are txing or not .There isnt any problem of the repeaters affecting each other ,they all work great just the problem of scratch coming and going .A,C and E do get scratch on occasion but no where as bad as D and B.D and B works great sometimes (clear with no scratch)and then reception will slowly develope major scratch and then slowly clear up -possibly electrostatic or wind moving the antennas ?.I have been fixing loose bolts on the windmill tower to stop problems incase of tower twist and this affecting service.I am wondering if there are any futher sugestions . Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au http://www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au/ FREE emoticons for your email! click Here! http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=96627 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group Repeater-Builder http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- Jay Urish W5GM ARRL Life MemberDenton County ARRL VEC TXFCA President N5ERS VP/Trustee DCARA President Denton County ARES AEC Monitoring 444.850 PL-88.5 146.92 PL-110.9 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) Accessory pinouts for GM399
Thats the first place that I looked but no GM399...Maybe its common to another model that I overlooked?? _ Gareth Bennett This e-mail is confidential, if you received this message in error, or you are not the intended recipient, please return it to the sender and destroy any copies. Thank you. - Original Message - From: Charles Mumphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:35 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) Accessory pinouts for GM399 Mama Mo's bible: http://www.batlabs.com Charlie Charles Mumphrey Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater: 441.325 Mhz + 162.2 Kc5ozh Dallas Repeater: 441.950 Mhz + 162.2 Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 823 http://www.CharliesElectronics.com http://www.hello-radio.org/ Original Message Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) Accessory pinouts for GM399 From: Charles Schmell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, March 30, 2006 7:00 am To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Gareth - Do you mean GM 300? never heard of the 399. Charles --- Gareth Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody have the accessory pinouts available for the Motorola GM399 Mobile (rear option connector?) ... Or even better, a scanned manual that I could download? Thanks in advance _ Gareth Bennett Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] micor mod info needed
Hi all: Our club is using repeaters following the versatel communications duplex mod. the question is,does anyone have a copy of the modfication they used or is there a website that has these forms. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Ryan n3ssl Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
