Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID
THats two for MaxRad so far! So it will either be a MaxRad or a Ringo. Its incredibly light, and it looks very much like a light saber, which is what I am almost inclined to use it for, if it wasnt worth a few bucks! :) Its nice to know this may be frequency adjustable. I just wanted to be sure, now I am more sure than I started with. Thanks for the responses so far! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID These style antennas are typically poor performers FYI. I wouldn't use it for anything important. Cushcraft started the design with their Ringo series, then several others copied the design. They were inexpensive, which was the only good feature. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:01 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID I figured this group would be in the know on how to ID an antenna without a sticker or any identification numbers engraved on it. I have an antenna that I found. It has no stickers of any kind, except for the This will kill you if you touch a wire sticker on it. Pictures attached are all I have. Its an N type connector and is roughly 4 feet in length. Is there any way to ID this with your traditional shop equipment? Thanks in advance! By the way, Kevin Custer, please email me! Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3111 - Release Date: 09/03/10 02:34:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID
Perfect. Thanks Leroy! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Leroy A. M. Baptiste To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID It is definitely a Maxrad I used them quite a bit. Leroy. J39AI -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID THats two for MaxRad so far! So it will either be a MaxRad or a Ringo. Its incredibly light, and it looks very much like a light saber, which is what I am almost inclined to use it for, if it wasnt worth a few bucks! :) Its nice to know this may be frequency adjustable. I just wanted to be sure, now I am more sure than I started with. Thanks for the responses so far! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey mailto:wb2...@roadrunner.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID These style antennas are typically poor performers FYI. I wouldn't use it for anything important. Cushcraft started the design with their Ringo series, then several others copied the design. They were inexpensive, which was the only good feature. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications mailto:laruec...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:01 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID I figured this group would be in the know on how to ID an antenna without a sticker or any identification numbers engraved on it. I have an antenna that I found. It has no stickers of any kind, except for the This will kill you if you touch a wire sticker on it. Pictures attached are all I have. Its an N type connector and is roughly 4 feet in length. Is there any way to ID this with your traditional shop equipment? Thanks in advance! By the way, Kevin Custer, please email me! Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3111 - Release Date: 09/03/10 02:34:00
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: DON'T BUY IT *HIJACKED* Back on Subject
As one who is seeking to get my call sign - this post raises a question in my head. Are call signs distributed according to region? For example, W2/N2/K2 are in the Colorado region, etc? And thats for the sequential call signs, correct? From what I understand, if you want a custom call sign, its on a first come, first serve basis - right? *Letting the other thread die* Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Doug To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:36 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: DON'T BUY IT AND DON'T USE IT !!!--READ IT --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, N2PDQ n2...@... wrote: This has nothing to do with repeater building, let alone ham radio. I just looked up your Qth on the QRZ website as I am from the New York area [originally] and when I see a W2/N2/K2 callsign I get curious. Man, looking at the map, you are a few blocks away from my sister inlaw in Centennial, Colorado!! She's off South Bradbury Parkway. Must be fate.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: DON'T BUY IT *HIJACKED* Back on Subject
Thanks Doug! Yes, I do also post on AR902 list, I am one and the same. My boss, Knox got lucky with his name and call sign. K6NOX is just perfect.fate, or luck? :-) Thanks to everyone who posted - I hope I do get my license soon too - met a few HAMs and have a good friend in San Jose who just last weekend spent his Sunday on the hill with an outdoor antenna just purely for the sake of being a HAM. :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Doug To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:16 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: DON'T BUY IT *HIJACKED* Back on Subject --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, La Rue Communications laruec...@... wrote: As one who is seeking to get my call sign - this post raises a question in my head. Are call signs distributed according to region? For example, W2/N2/K2 are in the Colorado region, etc? And thats for the sequential call signs, correct? From what I understand, if you want a custom call sign, its on a first come, first serve basis - right? *Letting the other thread die*John Hymes I know of you and your business [all positive things of course]. I think you do also post on the AR902Mhz Yahoo list, yes? The FCC assigns a Ham callsign based on your geographic location and/or state/region. They refer to them as, Call District. Example California will have a W6/K6/N6/A6 etc. prefix whereas New York, New Jersey would have the W2 prefix. The standard callsign selection process is not terribly complicated but the FCC in their madness, has a method. For custom callsigns like mine [my initials] it's called the vanity callsign program. Check out this ARRL website for some more indepth information on custom callsigns:http://www.arrl.org/vanity-call-signs 73 Doug W7FDF
[Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II Repeater Module
I have here a GE MASTR II Repeater XMTR Control Module p/n PL19D416660G6 REV A. I am more familiar with Micor Parts and Components - so I need a little guidance here. I recall seeing some MASTR dialogue recently, which is why I felt compelled to post here. Couple questions...On the p/n are the 0 (Zero) and O (Letter O) interchangable, does it matter? Just trying to figure out why Google doesnt turn anything up. Second question - are the modules band specific? Im currently looking through the TIP but I dont even know where to begin! THats the cool thing about RB.com - so much information :-) Thanks in advance! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II Repeater Module
Thanks Doug! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Doug Bade To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:19 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II Repeater Module Drop the PL as it is not part of the recognized part number. and a zero is used in that part of the part number of a ge part.. 19D was followed by 6 numbers beginning with a 4 or 9 and then a G or a P and up to 3 more numbers. In this case 19D416660(zero)G6 And I get several google hits.. Doug From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 2:46 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II Repeater Module I have here a GE MASTR II Repeater XMTR Control Module p/n PL19D416660G6 REV A. I am more familiar with Micor Parts and Components - so I need a little guidance here. I recall seeing some MASTR dialogue recently, which is why I felt compelled to post here. Couple questions...On the p/n are the 0 (Zero) and O (Letter O) interchangable, does it matter? Just trying to figure out why Google doesnt turn anything up. Second question - are the modules band specific? Im currently looking through the TIP but I dont even know where to begin! THats the cool thing about RB.com - so much information :-) Thanks in advance! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II Repeater Module
Hey Cool. Im first! THat may or may not be a good thing. But in this case, where information is scarce - its a good thing to me! :-) Thanks for the info! Its much appreciated, and I totally agree with you on the oh and zero issue. Crazy stuff we Americans have done! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 4:23 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II Repeater Module John, The 19D426660G6 module is intended to be used for transmitter control in a Mastr II two-frequency tone control base station. The manual that covers this specific module is LBI-30709. Unfortunately, the RBTIP GE Index does not have this LBI in its files. To the best of my recollection, yours is the first and only request for that LBI. A standard GE part number comprises six digits between the D and the G. We Americans have become sloppy with regards to the digit zero and the letter O. Sports fans talk about the score being O to one, we have military equipment that is Mark 1 mod O, and we dial O for Operator, where O in these examples is assumed to be pronounced OH. But, most phones have the zero button labeled operator, and dialing the letter O is actually the digit 6! I guess I'll just take Highway 101 to Los Angeles for the next Hamfest- that's Highway One-Oh-One, not Highway One Hundred-One, or Highway One-Zero-One. Re your second question, no. These are tone control modules that do not care what RF frequencies or bands are involved. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:46 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR II Repeater Module I have here a GE MASTR II Repeater XMTR Control Module p/n PL19D416660G6 REV A. I am more familiar with Micor Parts and Components - so I need a little guidance here. I recall seeing some MASTR dialogue recently, which is why I felt compelled to post here. Couple questions...On the p/n are the 0 (Zero) and O (Letter O) interchangable, does it matter? Just trying to figure out why Google doesnt turn anything up. Second question - are the modules band specific? Im currently looking through the TIP but I dont even know where to begin! THats the cool thing about RB.com - so much information :-) Thanks in advance! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola style Rack Clip Nuts
[SNIP} They were also called Jesus nuts by my coworkers, probably named in a spontaneously outburst by some guy who was about to need a tetanus shot. [/SNIP] So much for drinking a tasty beverage while reading some of these posts...excuse me while I clean up. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: Properly designed PAs (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax length, etc.)
Nate, Please accept my sympathies and condolences to you and your family. I agree with you on the time aspect entirely. With Prayers - John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:46 PM Subject: Re: Properly designed PAs (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax length, etc.) On Aug 15, 2010, at 7:06 AM, Jeff DePolo wrote: Whoever said time is money was an idiot. Time is worth inifinitely times more than money. You can make more money. You can even borrow money. Hell, if you were desparate you could even steal money. You can't do any of those things with time. Time is the one resource you can't make more of. With the passing of a loved-one in my family today, truer words could not be spoken. Money won't even buy an additional 5 minutes of idle chit-chat with someone you care about. I'll jump back into the conversation later... family's already on the way here and it's going to be a busy rest of the week. My wife and I are supposed to sing at the funeral, and I'm a pall-bearer. Didn't want you to think I'd disappeared on you Jeff. Appreciate the TIME you took to share your experiences with PAs. Won't have any time to respond with my thoughts for a little while, though. Best Regards, -- Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@natetech.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: unsubscribe (reading yahoo group posts - a butter way - no popcorn)
Create a new mail rule from the Message drop down menu to put all emails from Repeater-Builder's address into a new folder with the name of your choice. Mine is Repeater-Builder and all emails from y'all get dumped into that one box. Out of my main emailbox and its neat, clean and easy. :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Andrew Seybold To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 6:21 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: unsubscribe (reading yahoo group posts - a butter way - no popcorn) And I am one of those with separate folders for two reasons, first it makes things easier to see, and I have never had a problem with getting email mixed up, I subscribe to multiple yahoo groups and each one has its own folder which makes it easy to see when there is new email from each group. Secondly and most important to me I get so much business related email on my Blackberry that by using folders I don't get groups to my BB, and so I can concentrate on business emails and when I check in with my desktop or laptop I can see the groups with messages since the last time I have looked at them. In this case, then, a few spam messages are just easy to delete. I know from experience that spammers don't have to have access to your email account to spoof your email address, since mine has been spoofed multiple time. Andy W6AMS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 6:01 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: unsubscribe (reading yahoo group posts - a butter way - no popcorn) I'm the opposite. I want all my email dumped in one inbox. I'm afraid if it gets sorted to different folders, something's bound to get missed. Just like the mailman puts all my snail mail in one mailbox. Works just fine. Same reason I prefer list servers to forums - I don't want to have to go and look somewhere. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: unsubscribe (reading yahoo group posts - a butter way - no popcorn) On Aug 14, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Scott Zimmerman wrote: I am subscribed to all of my groups in 'single e-mail' form. I have configured Thunderbird to sort those groups into individual folders. By doing this, I can look at things in a digest mode. If I want to get rid of a bunch at one clip, I can select all and hit delete. Just my 2c worth of ideas. Scott I agree with Scott, and take this one step further. I use an IMAP server (the real deal, not Microsoft's wacked-out IMAP in Exchange), and have the *server* sort all the mail into folders before it ever even gets looked at by my mail client software.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fs: (/\/\)otorola UHF Desktrac
SOld about 4 DeskTracs tuned to 800 Band for about 40 bucks apiece. They were a hard sell til some Ag business down South picked up on them. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: FreeCycle To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fs: (/\/\)otorola UHF Desktrac how about the duplexer? - Original Message - From: Brian Raker brian.ra...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fs: (/\/\)otorola UHF Desktrac You can pick up programmed UHF Desktracs on ebay for ~150, programmed. Like Joe said, Desktracs are not high-duty cycle repeaters (not good for Ham Radio) , as well they are not NB capable so commercial uses are about out. I sold my two for $100 each, unprogrammed. -Brian / KF4ZWZ On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:29 PM, burkleoj joeburk...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't know about your neck of the woods, but one of the local ham groups picked up a Desktrac already tuned on the ham band to their frequency for $125 with the service manual. It does not have enough of a transmit duty cycle for their semi-busy ham system so it is sitting on the shelf. First $100 will take it off their hands, so they are hard to sell here on the West Coast, even when they are cheap. Good Luck and I hope you find a buyer for your unit. Joe - WA7JAW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, kc8gpd kc8...@... wrote: Um Ok, I want this gone. Tried swapping it, and selling it so how low do i have to go before someone will bite. not that i will necessarily let it go extremely cheap, but i am just curious about how low i have to go to get it sold. also want to know the reasoning of why it is so hard to get it sold since GMRS and Ham are still wideband. i will also toss in a small cushcraft uhf ringo as well. again will swap to a rebandable p25 mobile scanner or ??? here are pic's http://img405.imageshack.us/i/sales8910018.jpg/ http://img188.imageshack.us/i/sales8910017.jpg/ http://img842.imageshack.us/i/sales8910016.jpg/ http://img683.imageshack.us/i/sales8910015.jpg/ http://img706.imageshack.us/i/sales8910021.jpg/ Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mystery Micor problem
If it wasnt Friday the 13th and I wasnt a bonehead and left my shop keys at home - I would check our stash for you. Can you wait til MOnday and I will? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: n3ssl To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 8:08 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mystery Micor problem Glenn and Group, You were right on the channel elment being the issue ( placed a kxn 1024 for uhf and right on Rx.) Now i am looking for a KXN 1019 VHF not finding any in boxes or ebay. anyone have one they can spare? Ryan n3ssl --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Little WB4UIV glennmaill...@... wrote: If you have another channel element that has a crystal, I would use it to determine if the problem is in the radio or the element. I suspect that the bad capacitor is in the element. What is the part number of the channel element? 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 10:03 PM 8/9/2010, you wrote: Glenn, Is it safe to say look in the channel element for the bad cap ? Tempeture is not a issue with this unit it was in a heated and A/C garage kept about 65-80 degrees with dehumdifer. I am glad the new site is climate controlled also. Ryan n3ssl --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Little WB4UIV glennmaillist@ wrote: We had this problem in Johnson radios. What it turned out to be was a plate of a silver mica capacitor coming disconnected internally in the capacitor. This caused the capacitor to shift to a lower capacitance by the amount that the plate contributed to the capacitor. The lower capacitance caused the radio frequency to shift high and outside the tuning range of the netting device. I cannot tell you what capacitor has failed. Check the silver mica capacitors in the tuning circuit and replace the one that is low in value. I also have not been in a Micor element in many years. Hope this helps. This appears to be a somewhat common failure for silver mica capacitor due to the way the capacitor is physically constructed. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 09:09 PM 8/8/2010, you wrote: Glenn, OZ and group Its a step jump 5 khz up and get - 200 hz of crystal movment. What silver mica Cap is it? I have not looked inside a channel element in years usally send them out and trust the mfg. I also gave the crystal movement a thought but was is a temp controlled enviroment. Ryan --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Little WB4UIV glennmaillist@ wrote: Was the shift a drift or a step jump? If a step jump, you probably have a bad silver mica capacitor. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 04:23 PM 8/8/2010, you wrote: Hi Group, I have a Micor mobile set up as repeater. Worked great and was on frequency for over 8 years no problems.(lost rpt site May 2010) and have a new site to get on.The problem i am having is the TX drifted 5 khz up on TX from 145.310 to 145.315. I get plenty of deviation and audio drive and 9.6 v to crystal element. I am not having any luck messing with Netting adjustment i get -200 hz max. I also have a UHF Rx unit for control installed and it is 10khz low on frequency. The 144.710 RX crystal is right on the money for specs. Very odd situation. anyone have ideas where to check or a fluke the crystals are both bad. Ryan n3ssl Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sorry everyone
George uses the same gear I swear by. Spybot SD is my top pick - along with MalWareBytes. Good suggestions all around. Good luck Dave! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Tim Sawyer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sorry everyone Sorry, not trying to propagate crap. I was just trying to be helpful and didn't want him to make maters worse. Thanks for your recommendations. -- Tim :wq On Aug 12, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Mark Tomany wrote: It's amazing that so many people have the time on their hands to be able to propagate all this crap...
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sorry everyone
Mike - Fantastic suggestions! I, myself use Hijack This! and keep it in my arsenal as well. You are very right about the drives failing with no warning, and I have lost a few back in the day. Have not lost any flash drives over 4 Gig yet, but my very first one 512 MB (Bought about 7 years ago) went, about 2 months ago. Fortunately I always back up every 6 months or so. (For more important documents and files, even more often). One of my mottos is BACK UP! BACK UP! BACK UP! For RSS software, I've heard of people who backup to DVD and CD. Make a master copy and stick it in the safe. ANything happens to the subsequent copies, they have an instant master to copy from. Flash drives work just as well, as this group can attest to. Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Mike Morris To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sorry everyone At 09:20 PM 08/11/10, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Tim Sawyer tisaw...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sorry everyone Was your machine on while you were away? If so you may have gotten a virus or spyware. Sounds like your wife got it too. Spamers like to infect machines just to get control of them for sending spam. The really bad news is that most free spyware removal software is spyware itself. A really good PC guy might be able to remove it. Good luck man! -- Tim :wq Nonsense! Spybot Search Destroy, Ad-Aware, Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, and SuperAntiSpyware are all EXCELLENT free anti-spyware programs. I routinely use all 4 of them to clean up infections for people. No spyware in ANY of them and, between the four programs, I have yet to run into something I couldn't clean. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 Add Hijack This! to your toolkit. Excellent for clearing crud out of hijacked browsers. I keep a copy in my virus removal toolkit - and the copy is named iexplore.exe so that the malware that does filename checks lets it run (like some blackmail-ware). Add Mike Lin's Startup Control (the single file exe version, not the installed version) as it helps resolve issues with programs that start when the system starts up. I have all my antivirus tools on a SD card that is in a USB flash drive reader. Why an SD card? Because the card has a write protect switch. Load the card, flip the switch, and it can't be written to like a regular flash drive can. Other than write protection I treat it just like any other flash drive. See http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/SDR-1/SD-CARD-READER/WRITER-USB-2.0/1.html The reader costs $4. A 4gb card is under $20. Naturally larger cards are more expensive. The SD card and matching reader is cheap protection for the antivirus / malware remover part your computer toolkit. The only complaint I have is that the All Electronics reader is a bit fat and blocks the adjacent USB jack on some systems. A 3 inch USB extension cord fixes that. Lastly - never use a flash drive / thumb drive / pen drive as your permanent storage - only as a secondary or transit storage device. I've seen too many die with no notice, and be irrecoverable. One client's daughter lost a three week vacation / honeymoon worth of photos. Another lost several hundred photos of a Grand Canyon raft trip. Both my 16bg regular toolkit and my 4gb antivirus toolkit have a backup copy as a folder on a raid-protected server and as a folder on my laptop. If the flash drive dies (and it has twice in three years) I just buy a new one, load it up and use it. Mike WA6ILQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] (unknown)
Mike - Your efforts and enforcement are greatly appreciated! It keeps the list clean and spammer free. Thank you, for all you do! Its easily a thankless job and its tough! I know - I've been there myself! :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Mike Morris To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:45 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] (unknown) Well, in the source address (in the header) is Dave E Stephens Sr kf6...@yahoo.com and he's been a group member since april of 2008. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and not ban him, but in case someone's hacked his password he's now on moderation, BTW, I know you folks (now over 4800 as of yesterday) probably don't realize it, but this group is set up to place every new member on automatic moderation. It takes deliberate action by a moderator to change that status to unmoderated. The new user doesn't get to regular status until we (the moderators) see just what kind of stuff they post. If I see a ham callsign it's 1 or 2, if not, more. And just to give you all an idea of the c...@p you don't see, in the last 5 days alone I've rejected 5 messages (i.e. spam) and banned 4 email addresses (spammers). These days for every 10 new legit members we ban 1 or 2. At the moment there are almost 300 that have been banned. One gentleman has been banned at email addresses belonging to three different ISPs. Mike WA6ILQ At 05:06 PM 08/10/10, you wrote: Who knows? When I see someone spamming a bunch of Yahoo groups, it can't be good, and I definitely won't click on a link in the message. Richard, N7TGB www.n7tgb.net The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money --Margaret Thatcher
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Another stolen repeater (California)
Ugh. Now Im worried for all our La Rue repeaters out there. I will be vigilant as I am on eBay daily. I have taken note of it, and will keep my eyes alert. Thank you! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: John Gleichweit To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:29 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Another stolen repeater (California) Full View This weekend we had a CDF repeater stolen from the Ben Bolte site in El Dorado Hills. It disappeared somewhere between Saturday evening and Sunday morning. What I would like is for your folks to keep their ears open for any talk about new equipment, specifically Daniels equipment. This repeater is a Daniels MT-4E repeater with a Daniels model P11-5EA1-05-004 power amplifier (100 Watt) and 2 Liberty LS12-100 batteries. The repeater unit has both a Telecom Service Number sticker on it as well as a CDF Property Number sticker. This had to be someone who had authorized access to this site or someone disclosed access information to someone. Whoever stole the repeater knew what they were after and how to access this site. There was no damage to site, the rack or other equipment in our rack or the rack next to ours. In fact, they left 2 GE MASTR III radios untouched in the rack next to ours. In our rack, they left the duplexer (6 cavity), the power supply and the IM panel. Al l this adds up to someone who knows radio, this site and wanted a repeater, specifically a Daniels as they probably have programming capabilities. Thanks for keeping your ears open. A subsequent message puts the actual repeater vault location as an American Towers vault above Ione in Amador County. -- John Smokey Behr Gleichweit FF1/EMT, CCNA, MCSE IPN-CAL023 N6FOG UP Fresno Sub MP183.5 ECV1852 List Owner x10, Moderator x9 CalEMA 51-507 http://smokeybehr.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/smokeybehr
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
Fantastic Tim! Thanks for that - I will give it a shot and see how that works out. Will let you know. Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Tim Sawyer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios Hey John, All you have to do is edit the configuration file. You see the location of the configuration file when DOSBox starts. There are pretty plain comments in there as to how to set it up. Going from memory it was something like this: serial1 = directconnect realport:com1 -- Tim :wq On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:28 AM, La Rue Communications wrote: Actually this is on topic. Tim - can you relay to me, how your friend has his serial port set up to work with his DOSBox? My efforts were in vain. I think perhaps my XP Machine is too fast and modern? Only a theory. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] (unknown)
Virus? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Dave E Stephens Sr To: montanaaustin...@yahoo.com ; kg6...@yahoo.com ; natest...@gmail.com ; ps...@yahoogroups.com ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; leadinglandsc...@hotmail.com ; 5416609...@email.uscc.net ; k6...@yahoo.com ; n6...@bak.rr.com ; tpkrcogh...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] (unknown) http://sites.google.com/site/bhzdgorxkb/84d0ujay4o
OT Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
Finally - another Mac fan surfaces! :-) I have tried using DOSBox on our WinXP, however have had ZERO luck on the serial port recognition. Fromw hat I heard, the emulator will not recognize serial ports. Is that why you have resorted to the USB dongle? I cant remember if DOS ever recognized USB accessories. THats news to me! THanks for the tip! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
Actually this is on topic. Tim - can you relay to me, how your friend has his serial port set up to work with his DOSBox? My efforts were in vain. I think perhaps my XP Machine is too fast and modern? Only a theory. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
Its Freeware. Most software / Freeware vendors require a free (usually) account to download their software. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Don Kupferschmidt To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios Tim, Is this freeware, or is there a charge for the software? I looked at the web site and couldn't determine what was what as it had an account / login area. There are so many areas to download from with different OS. I'm using x/p pro and I see that there is a windows download; does this cover all flavors of windows OS? Also, do you have any experience programming MTS 2000 radios using this software? TIA for your reply. 73, Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 9:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios
Sorry Don - Hit send too soon. It should cover all flavors of *EDITORIAL* WinBlows *END EDITORIAL*. The link below is a direct link to the XP download, where I got mine. http://sourceforge.net/projects/dosbox/files/dosbox/0.74/DOSBox0.74-win32-installer.exe/download Good luck! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Don Kupferschmidt To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios Tim, Is this freeware, or is there a charge for the software? I looked at the web site and couldn't determine what was what as it had an account / login area. There are so many areas to download from with different OS. I'm using x/p pro and I see that there is a windows download; does this cover all flavors of windows OS? Also, do you have any experience programming MTS 2000 radios using this software? TIA for your reply. 73, Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 9:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DOSBox to Program Radios DOSBox (www.dosbox.com) is an x86 emulator with DOS. It works great for programming those radios that need old, slow PCs for the software. I use it on my MacBook dual booting into Windows 7 and using an IO Gear USB serial dongle on COM1. So far I've programmed a couple of Radius M1225's and a VXR-5000. A friend of mine has similar results with Windows XP on a 800Mhz PC with a real serial port. -- Tim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Mobile Repeater?
I have a lot of thanking to do. Thank you to everyone here who provided their two cents, feedback, memories and thoughts on this RCC Unit. Big thanks to Eric for the link to the Comb breakdown, I have printed it out and added it to my bench clipboard. To you lot - let me know if I can repay the favor. I owe you! Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:31 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Mobile Repeater? John, The unit is a full-duplex RCC (Radiotelephone Common Carrier) mobile telephone, not a repeater. The breakdown of the Combination Number, and a complete list of all LBIs that apply to that radio are found in Publication Index PC18, here: www.repeater-builder.com/ge/product-code-indexes/index-pc18-mastr-exec-ii-r cc-and-imts-mobiles.pdf 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- Quoting La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com mailto:LaRueComm%40gmail.com : Gentlemen (And Ladies) I have a MASTR II Exec mobile here, I think its a UHF Repeater. I want to confirm with you - but I am curious what RCC stands for. Comb number YS55SSXX88A. Nothing comes up on Google and not sure which Comb spec sheet to look this up with Hall Electronics or here on RB Archives. Thanks for your input! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mastr II drift problem
Thanks Doug and everyone else! THe thing that tipped me off, was the sharpie note on it as RCC UHF - up until yesterday I had never encountered one of these. The topside half of the internal workings are what made me stop and pause when I took the cover off. Quite different from the other MASTR II's I was accustomed to seeing. The 7 rows in the channel element area all squished together, as well as the ICOMs installed in there. Someone asked to check for the crystals, and they are indeed there, the RX is 454.025 but whats unusual is that the TX elements do not have the frequencies listed on them. They do not appear to have been erased by hand, or scraped off - is that commonplace for units like these? Having fun learning about this now - makes me want to fire it up and toy around with it some! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: wd8chl To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mastr II drift problem On 8/4/2010 9:18 AM, Joe wrote: Sometimes troubles like this are hard to find because you can't be there when it is happening. I have found that a Radio Shack Digital Voltmeter that I have and an old laptop have been handy for such times. I bought an RS DVM with the RS-232 interface on sale a few years ago. I connected it to an old laptop that I have via the RS-232 port and run the simple program that came with the DVM. It records readings over time and stores them to a file. You can then look at the file and see if things have changed over a period of time. I've used it to record AC voltage at sites where I suspected drops in voltage levels and it was helpful to get things fixed. Definitely not lab quality equipment, but very helpful in troubleshooting. This setup could easily watch the 10 volt line or the compensation voltage line. Just thought I'd pass this idea along. 73, Joe, K1ike Really??? What's the model of that DMM? We could use that here! Jim
[Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Mobile Repeater?
Gentlemen (And Ladies) I have a MASTR II Exec mobile here, I think its a UHF Repeater. I want to confirm with you - but I am curious what RCC stands for. Comb number YS55SSXX88A. Nothing comes up on Google and not sure which Comb spec sheet to look this up with Hall Electronics or here on RB Archives. Thanks for your input! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
[Repeater-Builder] FS - Motorola Micor VHF/UHF Mobiles GE Low Band Mobiles
Gentlemen in Need: I have several Motorola Micor VHF Mobiles ready to list on eBay and I am prepared to ship. These are VHF units model T73RTN3100B. Appears to be complete with no top or bottom case. Channel elements are included (153 MHz RX / 158 TX ) and sold as they are. They have not been powered up for a while and not sure if they have any issues or not. Just a heads up! Please reply directly / off list so we dont clutter the board up. :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: gervais To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 5:15 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Give Away - Motorola Micor VHF/UHF Mobiles GE Low Band Mobiles hummm we are so far we would have used this Motorola Micor VHF mobile converted to a 147.080MHz repeater here 73/s all gervais ve2ckn From: Dave Cochran Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Give Away - Motorola Micor VHF/UHF Mobiles GE Low Band Mobiles Only 5 hours or so drive from me. and we could really use the equipment down here. I'll talk with a couple of guys and see if I can find a co-pilot or two. Dave - N0TRQ On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 5:28 PM, rrath rr...@charter.net wrote: Me three. Rod kc7vqr Me too !! On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Scott Zimmerman n3...@repeater- builder.com wrote: If only I lived in Texas.. Humph!! Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 wb5dcu wrote: I am cleaning out the shack and I have the following radios I would like to give away: 7 - Motorola Micor VHF Mobiles 5 - Motorola Micor UHF Mobiles 1 - Motorola Q2904A UHF Industrial repeater 1 - Motorola Syntor UHF 1 - Motorola Mitrek UHF 1 - GE Master II Low Band mobile with accessories 1 - GE Master PRO Low Band mobile with accessories 1 - Motorola Micor VHF mobile converted to a 147.080MHz repeater mounted in BUD cabinet with NHRC-2 controller. Some of the Micor's are parts radios, they were given to our repeater group by a local 2 way shop that was going out of business. The 147.08 repeater was taken out of service about 5 years ago. It was working when we replaced it with a new repeater. These are free, take all or none. I will NOT ship, local pick up only. I live in Sherman Texas which is located north of Dallas Texas on US Highway 75. Contact me by email at wb5d...@verizon.net Yahoo! Groups Links -- Always drink upstream from the herd.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
We have clearance Clarence. Roger, Roger, whats our vector, Victor? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Mike Morris To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Didn't Lloyd Bridges work that one to death in Airplane ? At 07:43 PM 07/13/10, you wrote: Nothing if you're name is roger. From: Larry Horlick Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number of church youth camps activities asked you to program FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR would you do so ? It would only be for extended range at camp. If the radio power can be reduced, turn it down and program the FRS frequencies in. If the power can't be reduced, put the radios on GMRS Frequencies. Many of the Kenwood Portables I sell allow power level programming per channel so the FRS gets low and the other stuff gets the nominal rated power. FRS Radios are sold cheap at the big box stores... try to find the ones that allow you to turn off the $...@%@*% stupid roger beeps s. 1130f514.gif
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Service Manuals
Thank you everyone, for all the service manual requests (On-list and off). I have noted them and will keep my eyes peeled for them throughout this project. Eric - I will have printed out the RB manual request page and will keep my eyes peeled for those as well. :-) Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:39 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Service Manuals John, Before divesting yourself of (possibly rare) service manuals, please review the Repeater-Builder listings to see if any of them might be a candidate for scanning (only if they are out of print) and subsequent posting on the RBTIP for download. A number of very generous folks (you know who you are!) have recently loaned manuals to the RBTIP scanning team for conversion into full-page PDF files. As a result, some manuals that have great historic value are preserved for the benefit of everyone in the radio hobby. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Service Manuals Gentlemen (And Ladies) - I will be listing some service manuals over the next few weeks to months on our eBay store. If there is any interest in a particular manual (Mostly Kenwood and Motorolas) for the archives here, please feel free to let me know. I wanted to give the group exclusive notice so those that need them, can procure them. Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's)
I have a metal He-Man lunch box with lead based paint. Does that count, or is it strictly two way stuff? ;-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:00 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's) Allow me to show my age ... To me, the HT-220 is/was a Xtal Controlled Ht !! Allow me to show my age... The HT here is a VHF Engineering 2 Meter Portable assembled from a kit... and it still works. :-) s. ps: Surplus Motorola and GE Lunch Boxes don't count on the bragging scale.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater receiver testing
Get a Mac. Much more efficient and crash free.. Keep your PC for programming if its old enough. :) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: allan crites To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater receiver testing I sure did. Thanks to you Jeff for your response and my sincerest apology to Kevin. I did the calculation four times and got the same wrong answer four times before I hit the send button. Only after I sent did I redo the calculation on another calculator and was I horrified to learn of my mistake. It's time for a new calculator for me. And then the computer crashed. Time for a new computer too. AC -- From: Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 11:09:55 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater receiver testing Kevin, I'm sorry to have to tell you this but I think your calculator batteries need to be changed. 0 dBM = 0.2236 volts in a 50 Ohm circuit. +20 dBM is indeed 100 mW and P=EI and inserting 100 mW into the Eq. for Volts in a 50 Ohm system, E= the sq. rt. of the quantity (.100 x 50) = sq. rt. of 5 = .707 V. or 707 mV. not the 2.24 V. you indicated. I think you blew that one OM. Too much tequila down in XE land perhaps? The square root of 5 is 2.2236 volts, not sure where you got 0.707, that would be square root of 0.5. Kevin was right. Or, to make it even simpler without having to do any real math, +20 dBm is 20 db greater than 0 dBm. 20 dB more than 0.2236 volts is, obviously, 2.236 volts. --- Jeff WN3A
[Repeater-Builder] Service Manuals
Gentlemen (And Ladies) - I will be listing some service manuals over the next few weeks to months on our eBay store. If there is any interest in a particular manual (Mostly Kenwood and Motorolas) for the archives here, please feel free to let me know. I wanted to give the group exclusive notice so those that need them, can procure them. Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's)
How about a GE PR 36? Does that qualify for old? (Esentially I think anything in our two-way museum that we're getting set up eventually qualifies as old) :-) Nice thing about the older gear - is that its SO hardy! Incredible that some of the stuff we have thats old and obsolete still works and works well! Whereas a lot of newer gear, if it got to be as old as the old stuff would be worthless and junked as forever inoperable! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Captainlance To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's) Wow.. memories... A Link 50UFS low band base station.. We have one here, too... Still works. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's) I think I automatically disqualify myself since I dont know too much about our units. But one of the cornerstone pieces of our shop is our Link Repeater. Im not trying to one up anyone - but rather share and get into the OLD stuff with the rest of ya. I also dont think I qualify because I grew up on CHiPs and Dukes of Hazard. :) So overlook that little fact and let me ask if anyone has dabbled with this machine? (See attached) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: John Gleichweit To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's) Whaddaya mean lunchboxes don't count? I have a pair of GE Portamobile II's in the shop just begging to be recrystalled and ready to rock. If course, I was considering building those into APRS trackers or packet boxes, where everything was built inside, and all you needed to do was plug in a laptop. I dug an actual GE HandiTalkie out of the bottom of a box that was full of surplus stuff from the county. In that same lot was a couple of MX300s. -- John Smokey Behr Gleichweit FF1/EMT, CCNA, MCSE IPN-CAL023 N6FOG UP Fresno Sub MP183.5 ECV1852 List Owner x10, Moderator x9 CalEMA 51-507 http://smokeybehr.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/smokeybehr - Original Message From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 7:00:36 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's) Allow me to show my age ... To me, the HT-220 is/was a Xtal Controlled Ht !! Allow me to show my age... The HT here is a VHF Engineering 2 Meter Portable assembled from a kit... and it still works. :-) s. ps: Surplus Motorola and GE Lunch Boxes don't count on the bragging scale. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info
Thank you Sir! Any study reccomendations? I took and passed our local Law Enforcement exam x 3 with a minimum of studying. MOstly common sense - just curious if its the same format? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: racer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info I used this one to get my extra license. It worked very well. The other nice part is you can keep going from tech to extra. http://www.hamtestonline.com/ From: La Rue Communications Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:43 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info Good Morning All - I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for? If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-) Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info
Very cool. Thank you both! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: racer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info Yes Doug is right, I didn't mean to make sound like I took the test on-line. sorry Study material is on-line. Testing still with a VE. From: Doug Bade Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:04 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info As far as I am aware you still have to take your test in front of a team of V.E.'s. You may study online and take practice tests online.. Doug From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:44 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info Good Morning All - I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for? If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-) Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info
Good chunk of info Ralph! I was just wondering if it was going to be multi-guess. :-) Usually the answer is C. I will take your advice to consideration, and armed with the rest of the info y'all gave me - should be a cakewalk since I am very mechanically inclined. Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info How much do you know about electronics and radio in general ? If to some extent , the exam is no problem. Even less if you have a good memory. There are 3 classes now. The Technician, General. and Extra. For each one there is a pool of about 300 questions and answers . That is the exect questions and answers for the test. To take the test you have to go to where there are 3 or more qulaified examiners. Some ham clubs give the test every so often and many times at hamfests (flea markets for hams). Each class requires about 30 to 50 questions to be answered. they are all multichoice. I think it is 70% for a passing grade. When applying for the test , apply for all 3 classes.. It is usually all the same price. If you pass the first one, you can take the next higher test. There is no code (CW) test now. Somewhere around $ 15 for the test now. After you are licened , it is good for 10 years and does not cost anything to renew it. That $ 80 is way too much. You can buy books with the questions and answers or download them from places on the internet. Go to www.qrz.com and look for the prictce test. Give it a try and see how well you do. I have been a ham for over 35 years and can usually hit about 90% on the practice test on QRZ.com in about 10 minuits for each of the 3 tests. I do that from time to time when I hear how hard some say the test is. If you want to learn something about ham radio, go to arrl.org and get one of the handbooks. Think they are around $ 50 now. You can go to e-bay and get some that are a few years old for only a few dollars. Also at arrl.org look at the amateur rules. Part 95 of the FCC rules. Ham radio rules usually differ from comercial rules in that mostly the ham rules state what you can not do instead of what you can do for many parts. If you have your comercial license, the test is similar and should be no problem. -- From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 12:43:34 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info Good Morning All - I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for? If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-) Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Thanks Eric et al! Of course the current software and software for the radios are the highest priority when it comes to RSS protection. Its the more obsolete units that are either 1) no longer being serviced by depot or 2) So old they dont care what happens to it. What about RSS for 800 MHz STX HTs? :-) Good doorstops! If I were in Motorola's shoes, I'd say go for it to anyone who wants to put it up for public use, and focus on the creeps who are trying to push / pirate the RSS for the XTS5000, like you said earlier. I'd not be surprised if Motorola trolls those Programming sites incognito asking for current software.. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:27 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution John, While I cannot speak for Motorola, it is clear that Motorola's first priority is to protect the copyright of current software. On one programming-oriented site, there is no end of idiots who post messages like, Can anyone send me a copy of the latest software for the XTS5000? And there are idiots who respond with something like, Contact me off-list, or Check your PM. I doubt that Motorola will send out the legal beagles to collar someone who offers RSS for the SP50 or GM300, but I think that anyone who openly offers pirate RSS or CPS that is still being licensed and sold is asking for serious trouble. Big time. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: tone panel deal of the moment
If you're an account holder with UPS, International Shipping is not a chore - just filling in one carbon piece of paperwork, and stick it in the clear envelope. Viola! I am not sure about the recipient though, since none of our shipments include duty / taxes / customs fees and not sure I want to know how much it is either. In any case USPS has been a delight to ship with for our eBay goods, really easy to fill out the shipping label and postage. I think they can get up to 70 pounds before they have to have special handling. I could be wrong Im not about to leave a 70 pound package for my door to door carrier to pick up from home I'll do it at work instead. :-) Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Mel Swanberg To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: tone panel deal of the moment I'm not sure I understand what the problem shipping overseas is. I've done a fair amount of eBay trading myself, and it's never been more than paying the postage for whatever the destination is, and a single page form declaring what the item is, and it's value. And many times, I haven't even been required to fill out a declaration form. I do virtually all my shipping via the internet, with pick up from my front porch. Are there some countries that trigger a more difficult process? I've shipped to Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, South America, Israel, and all over Europe including some of the former Soviet block countries and it's been no problem at all. In buying stuff, I'm receiving items from Hong Kong and Israel faster than I get it from across the state. Mel - WA6JBD Hi Marcus, If you became friends with some of the US Based people on the group... over time building a rapport, some of us do on occasion offer to help. The problem is... many of times I've helped someone outside the US Deal with Ebay Shipments it's like a large water dam bursts and they flood me with excessive shipping work ... There are companies that can help deal with outside US Shipping. ... and there are some countries that seem to go out of their way to make shipping packages a real pain in the pazzoo. The global market place isn't always so easy to deal with. cheers, s.
[Repeater-Builder] Attn: Mike Morris
Mike - Please contact me off list, LaRueComm at gmail dot com. I have a few things for you and need to discuss them with you as well. Tried regular email, but no response. Thank you! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: tone panel deal of the moment
Folks - To simplify UPS International Shipping. Refer to UPS Form Declaration of Contents and Shipper's Letter of Instruction Its a 5 page (Carbon copy) document, that you fill out (Takes me an average of 3 minutes), tear off the yellow copy and keep for records, and stick the rest in a clear envelope. Print out the label and hand it to the driver / clerk. Its all the information they need and it never comes back rejected (Unless I accidentally left the Haz Mat sticker uncovered - whoops) I thought it was a HUGE hassle at first, but I realized how simple it really is. Seriously - its a LOT easier than a lot of folks realize. Just my 2 bits. :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Paul Holm To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: tone panel deal of the moment I wish I knew what your secret is for making International UPS shipping that easy. Where I work we do retail UPS shipping for customers. We finally just gave up trying to ship internationally. Every time we tried to send one out, the driver would reject it or else it would come back the next day, rejected down the line. The explaination was always that we had omitted the correct form(s) and/or included the wrong ones. This is after working with UPS directly on the phone to verify what was needed. That issue, combined with the high fees ( $125 for a medium to large box) discouraged customers anyway. On the other hand, USPS International Priority Mail is a breeze; only one short form to include with the regular shipping labels. And the price is good too. 73 Paul - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications If you're an account holder with UPS, International Shipping is not a chore - just filling in one carbon piece of paperwork, and stick it in the clear envelope. Viola!
[Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap with the Big Bat :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Jeff Ackerman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain www.ham.dmz.ro, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Jeff Ackerman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they mainly have all the old dos stuff. But i am well aware of the motorola software licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola dealer too. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap with the Big Bat :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Jeff Ackerman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain www.ham.dmz.ro, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Makes sense! Thanks Jeff! :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Jeff Ackerman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution One other thing is hams already modify there RSS to suite there needs, mainly speaking of the 900 mhz rss for GTX's, MTX9000's and so forth. But alot of these hams that have this modified software are very reluctant to let it go wild out on the net for fear of the big M cracking the whip, therefor its all kept in a tight group, but in some cases its not. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote: On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, La Rue Communications wrote: Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? Motorola will sue you into bankruptcy if you cross them. However, they have larger problems. Remember that they are selling radios that cost $1500+ to every agency under the sun because of the narrow-banding that is coming up in a few years. The secondary markets of the existing wideband radios will be legal Part 90 users who do not want to pay for the new radios, and can afford the filter and frequency standard replacement as well as the tech's time on the bench to make sure the radio is within spec. On top of those factors, many of the radios weren't made to deal with the splinter frequencies which will be used in increasing numbers in the future. I suppose if one was bright and wanted to hedge a few bets, one could buy up a large number of Maxtracs, have them sent to China, install new timebases and filters, check them there cheaply, then send them back to the US and have them checked again, programmed, and sold to the other Part 90 users. Or one could have 900MHz Maxtracs turned into 450MHz Maxtracs, keep the 2.5KHz deviation, and use HearClear. That would be fundamentally changing the operation of the radio and might involve learning 68HC11 microprocessors and reverse engineering the radio. But those costs are cheaper in China, where the choice is do I want to eat today? versus Do I want to eat next week? or I still have four months before they foreclose. Of course, the growing dependence on CODECs to achieve bandwidth savings in digital radio sets an artificial obsolescence point in the lifetime of the radio. As long as the FCC and industry keeps thinking they can squeeze blood from a turnip, two-way radio will see smaller allocations and the Big Five telecom players will enjoy allocations in the multi-megahertz. But Motorola plays in that market too. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst -- Jeff Ackerman Peninsula Communications 6 Rossi Circle, Suite C Salinas, Ca 93907 j...@peninsulacom.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT:Printing google or Bing maps from the web
Y'all don't even need to hold down shift or ctrl, or alt. Just hit print screen, open paint up and paste (ctrl V). Save it as JPG / IMG / whatever format you need it. Edit photo / crop as necessary and print. :-) Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: pgget To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 7:45 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT:Printing google or Bing maps from the web Do a shift print screen of the map. Open paint and paste the image using the editor menu. It can be edited at this point by copying what is desired and pasting it to a new screen. Save as a file that can be opened by picture viewer(bitmap,bmp). Picture viewer has a much better printing method then paint does. Paul kb9wlc --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, x.tait.tech x.tait.t...@... wrote: Does print screen work, or else a screen dump to the printer, cannot remember the keystroke something like Ctrl-printscreen and them shift-printscreen i think Marcus On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Don Kupferschmidt dkupf...@...wrote: All, I'm trying to print a map which was brought up on either google or bing maps on the internet and then export it to a bmp or jpg file which then I can print to an ink jet printer. I've tried and tried to figure this out, but cannot to find a solution. Has anyone been successful in doing this? Or do I need more software? O/S is x/p Pro. TIA, Don, KD9PT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Death of a Service Monitor
This guy needs to work on his aim. :-) Can totally relate though!! THE HUMANITY THE HUMANITY!!! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Joe To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:36 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Death of a Service Monitor Worth watching if a service monitor ever caused you frustration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nXbBS3lVXU 73, Joe, k1ike
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Harmful Taxing
Could not find the original post, so I wanted to ask, what state is currently being taxed, or does it apply to the entire Country? (I am aware the FCC regulates Nation-wide, but some states are covered differently IIRC.) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Harmful Taxing Kevin. ZL1KFM spar...@... wrote: Plan was to build 3 remote RX sites and feed it back to the main site (4th RX) and expand the coverage. However our MED (Your FCC) decided to charge for every repeater in the country, this included Amateur repeaters. Tax revenue crazy Governments don't realize how much damage their plain greed does to innovation, education, creativity and growth. s.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Harmful Taxing
Thanks Scott! We get these freedoms back when they repeal these laws. Which is once in a blue moon..I feel ya though! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Scott Zimmerman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Harmful Taxing It's not a state that is doing this. The OP indicated it was MED (Your version of the FCC) I looked up his call. This fellow is in New Zeland. Apparently that is where this taxation is taking place. Remember: For every law that is passed there is one less freedom we will NEVER get back!! Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 La Rue Communications wrote: Could not find the original post, so I wanted to ask, what state is currently being taxed, or does it apply to the entire Country? (I am aware the FCC regulates Nation-wide, but some states are covered differently IIRC.) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* skipp025 mailto:skipp...@yahoo.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, June 25, 2010 11:44 AM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Re: Harmful Taxing Kevin. ZL1KFM spar...@... wrote: Plan was to build 3 remote RX sites and feed it back to the main site (4th RX) and expand the coverage. However our MED (Your FCC) decided to charge for every repeater in the country, this included Amateur repeaters. Tax revenue crazy Governments don't realize how much damage their plain greed does to innovation, education, creativity and growth. s.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Mystery Box
Any pictures of it? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Scott Overstreet To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Scott Overstreet Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:44 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Mystery Box Hello All-- I have a black metal box (about 2x3x7) here labeled : Motorola 1D83000E 209933 7109 Part # 80D103 Machine screw hold down studs on one side and a string of solder terminals on the other side labeled IN, 100,200,300-to 900, 50, 100 and OUT and a couple of GND's. What is it?---I don't know where I got it and I am mystified Thanks much, Scott
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help Identifying a Motorola PA
According to my model breakdown sheet its a VHF 144-174 MHz PA. If its like the PAs we have - they would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 105W output power. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: nativeMT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:58 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Help Identifying a Motorola PA I was given a PA with a part number TLD2772A. The unit looks to be a rack mount PA with RG142 w/ n connectors for both input and output. The circuit board is unique in that it is ceramic substrate with laser etched film resistors and surface mount parts. The output transistor is a single SRF-4019. Can anyone give me information on this PA? Thanks, Corey
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MII station PA VHF
This is a UHF.but along the same lines, good for parts. Missing PA deck. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320548623705ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Randy To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:14 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MII station PA VHF Where are you? I have a bad one in Dayton, OH Randy --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, terry_wx3m wx3m.te...@... wrote: Looking for a Mastr II VHF station 75W or up continuous duty PA. I only really need the casting, so if you have one with a bad amp, I would take that. wx3m.te...@...
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MII station PA VHF
Wrong link... wrong unit. Sorry! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Randy To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:25 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MII station PA VHF How do you figure that? Not even close.. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, La Rue Communications laruec...@... wrote: This is a UHF.but along the same lines, good for parts. Missing PA deck. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320548623705ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Randy To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:14 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MII station PA VHF Where are you? I have a bad one in Dayton, OH Randy --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, terry_wx3m wx3m.terry@ wrote: Looking for a Mastr II VHF station 75W or up continuous duty PA. I only really need the casting, so if you have one with a bad amp, I would take that. wx3m.terry@
Re: [Repeater-Builder] kyodo kg108 uhf
Go to: Start Control Panels System Device Manager Verify that your Com 1 and/or Com 2 are present under the 'Ports' drop down tab. If Com 1 is present, click it, and click Properties (Or right click it then drop down to Properties). Again, verify that Com 1 is functional and functioning normally. Lets go from there. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Ross Johnson To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:36 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] kyodo kg108 uhf You know that com port works? Older machines serial ports were poorly or not even buffered sometimes. Also if this is a programming laptop, where you use it to program other radios, make sure none of the other programming software is tying up that com port while the machine is running. Ross kc7rjk -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kerincom Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 7:49 AM To: mail=repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] kyodo kg108 uhf Already done that Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, 3A Murchison Street,Biloela.4715 Ph 0749922449 or 0409159932 or 0749922574 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au ---Original Message--- From: wd8chl Date: 06/11/10 23:30:03 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] kyodo kg108 uhf On 6/11/2010 7:45 AM, kerincom wrote: Hi guys .I have the genuine software and programming cable and kg108 uhf radios and I am trying to read and program them .The software is installed on a Toshiba 700mhnz laptop running win98se .and when I try to communicate with the radio it comes up with error in communications .I have tried running it in dos and still the same .It seems to be a com error because I have 2 programming cables and the get the same result with both.Can anyone suggest anything I'm not familiar with those, but chances are if they are more than 6-8 years old, the software is DOS, and Windows won't allow control of the RS-232 port the way it wants. Hit the 'Start' button, and in the shutdown menu, one selection will be Restart in MS-DOS mode. Select that, and it will take you to a true DOS environment. You'll have to navigate back to the directory you have your program in from there using DOS commands. Jim
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Question
Greetings Repeater Gurus! Hope everyone had a great weekend! I have a few questions for youhope its an easy answer. I have a friend running a 75W Micor UHF repeater and he needs to operate it for a single user who uses regular PL tone. My friend has a PL module installed on the Tone Squelch board in the receiver and that's working fine, but his unit, of course, doesn't transmit PL which he needs it to do. Does he need a single PL tone encoder card for the card cage? 146.2 Hz. is the tone he needs. After he installs such a card, would the repeater transmit the 146.2 PL tone, even if activated by the Tone Remote? Third question - Are there any other cards or PL modules out there besides the Card Cage type, or are they all strictly the ones that fit in the Unified Chassis? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Master Exec 50W Low Band 42-50 Splitt PA needed
I will check our stash for you, I THINK we may have one. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: dgrapach To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 8:12 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Master Exec 50W Low Band 42-50 Splitt PA needed Try a micor amp Ebay 220614543178 220611329293 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Wayne wa5...@... wrote: After years of operation our tried and true 6M repeater died. This repeater, in Arkansas, is located on the highest point between the Rocky Mountains and the Smokey Mountains and provided excellent coverage. We need a GE Master Exec. II Low Band 50 watt 42-50 split PA. The combination number on the front of the radio follows. The ? means it does not matter. RT64???33?? We only need the PA. If any one has one of these they want to part with let me know the details. Please reply by post to reply to sender or wa5luy at cablelynx dot com. Wayne, WA5LUY
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Chassis Question
Will keep my eyes open for them Joe. We have a few more in surplus. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: burkleoj To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:05 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Chassis Question John, If you run across any 406 - 420 MHz Micors or Mitreks I could use one or two of each. Thanks, Joe --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, La Rue Communications laruec...@... wrote: Mike - Thanks for that snippet. Thats the reference I was referring to when I determined it was non frequency dependent. With the absence of further responses from the group, I will consider my answer confirmed. Thank you all for your time! *This unit came out of service from a UHF repeater. There are no channel elements but I guess it can be used for VHF stations as well with a simple board change, right?* John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Mike Morris To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Chassis Question At 11:01 AM 06/01/10, you wrote: Gentlemen - (And Ladies) I have a Micor Unified Chassis here model TCN1187A. Am I right in confirming that this Chassis is not frequency dependent? There are no channel elements in this unit so I cannot confirm what frequency is would work for. Can anyone shed some detailed light on this unit for me please? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn Most any frequency dependent part in a Micor (actually most any Moto radio) is marked with a part number in the format of three letters and 4-digits, possibly followed with a revision code... Like TLD8272B1... The secret is the third letter. The text below is cut and pasted from http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/aaa-numbering-scheme.html Mike WA6ILQ A Under 25 MHz B 25-54 MHz (yes, the table in the buyer's guide included 10 meters and 6 meters) C 72-76 MHz (see note 1) D 144-174 MHz (see note 2) E 406-470 MHz (see note 3) F 890-960 MHz N Not frequency dependent (like an audio-squelch board, or a power supply) (see note 4) NOTES: [1]: C was limited to the 72-76 MHz USA assignment (one split) until Motorola started making land mobile equipment for the European 66-88 MHz band (which usually required two splits). Some books say that the so-called mid band is 60-99 MHz. There is no 30-50 MHz low band in Europe, when they refer to low band they are referring to 66-88 MHz. In the USA, 60-66 MHz is television channel 3, 66-72 MHz is TV channel 4, the 72-76 MHz frequencies are used as Operational Fixed / Repeater frequencies (essentially commercial point-to-point links), 76-82 MHz is TV channel 5, 82-88 MHz is TV channel 6, and 88-108 MHz is commercial FM broadcast. One rumor is that as part of the HDTV conversion in the USA the FCC and the military want to eliminate TV channels 4, 5 and 6 then reassign the 66-88 MHz range as a military band that aligns with the rest of the world (i.e. for joint operations and exercises). [2]: D was redefined downwards to 136 MHz at some point. There are high band equipment models specified as 136-174 MHz, and others that are 150-174 MHz. [3]: E was redefined downwards to 390 MHz in the early 70s and then to 360 MHz in the early 80s for certain military, government and spook equipment. It was expanded upwards to 490 MHz and later to 512 MHz as the 470-494 MHz then 494-512 MHz frequencies were allocated. A 1990s salesmans order book has the UHF band listed as going from 400 MHz to 520 MHz. There has also been some interesting equipment found on frequencies as high as 550 MHz. [4]: N is still used as a Not frequency dependent identifier even when there is some difference between wideband and narrowband equipment (like in the audio recovery circuitry in an IF / discriminator board). Most of the time a variation like that is handled in the final letter suffix (i.e. a TLNA1 might be wideband and a TLNA2 might be narrowband), but there are exceptions. The four numbers after the three letters are simply a design sequence number. One or two letters after the numbers are a version, variation or revision identifier (the term used depends on which book you read). Almost all assemblies have one letter after the sequence number (i.e. the first shippable design is dubbed version A), some have two characters, a few have three (i.e. TLNA1A).
[Repeater-Builder] Chassis Question
Gentlemen - (And Ladies) I have a Micor Unified Chassis here model TCN1187A. Am I right in confirming that this Chassis is not frequency dependent? There are no channel elements in this unit so I cannot confirm what frequency is would work for. Can anyone shed some detailed light on this unit for me please? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Chassis Question
Mike - Thanks for that snippet. Thats the reference I was referring to when I determined it was non frequency dependent. With the absence of further responses from the group, I will consider my answer confirmed. Thank you all for your time! *This unit came out of service from a UHF repeater. There are no channel elements but I guess it can be used for VHF stations as well with a simple board change, right?* John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Mike Morris To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Chassis Question At 11:01 AM 06/01/10, you wrote: Gentlemen - (And Ladies) I have a Micor Unified Chassis here model TCN1187A. Am I right in confirming that this Chassis is not frequency dependent? There are no channel elements in this unit so I cannot confirm what frequency is would work for. Can anyone shed some detailed light on this unit for me please? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn Most any frequency dependent part in a Micor (actually most any Moto radio) is marked with a part number in the format of three letters and 4-digits, possibly followed with a revision code... Like TLD8272B1... The secret is the third letter. The text below is cut and pasted from http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/aaa-numbering-scheme.html Mike WA6ILQ A Under 25 MHz B 25-54 MHz (yes, the table in the buyer's guide included 10 meters and 6 meters) C 72-76 MHz (see note 1) D 144-174 MHz (see note 2) E 406-470 MHz (see note 3) F 890-960 MHz N Not frequency dependent (like an audio-squelch board, or a power supply) (see note 4) NOTES: [1]: C was limited to the 72-76 MHz USA assignment (one split) until Motorola started making land mobile equipment for the European 66-88 MHz band (which usually required two splits). Some books say that the so-called mid band is 60-99 MHz. There is no 30-50 MHz low band in Europe, when they refer to low band they are referring to 66-88 MHz. In the USA, 60-66 MHz is television channel 3, 66-72 MHz is TV channel 4, the 72-76 MHz frequencies are used as Operational Fixed / Repeater frequencies (essentially commercial point-to-point links), 76-82 MHz is TV channel 5, 82-88 MHz is TV channel 6, and 88-108 MHz is commercial FM broadcast. One rumor is that as part of the HDTV conversion in the USA the FCC and the military want to eliminate TV channels 4, 5 and 6 then reassign the 66-88 MHz range as a military band that aligns with the rest of the world (i.e. for joint operations and exercises). [2]: D was redefined downwards to 136 MHz at some point. There are high band equipment models specified as 136-174 MHz, and others that are 150-174 MHz. [3]: E was redefined downwards to 390 MHz in the early 70s and then to 360 MHz in the early 80s for certain military, government and spook equipment. It was expanded upwards to 490 MHz and later to 512 MHz as the 470-494 MHz then 494-512 MHz frequencies were allocated. A 1990s salesmans order book has the UHF band listed as going from 400 MHz to 520 MHz. There has also been some interesting equipment found on frequencies as high as 550 MHz. [4]: N is still used as a Not frequency dependent identifier even when there is some difference between wideband and narrowband equipment (like in the audio recovery circuitry in an IF / discriminator board). Most of the time a variation like that is handled in the final letter suffix (i.e. a TLNA1 might be wideband and a TLNA2 might be narrowband), but there are exceptions. The four numbers after the three letters are simply a design sequence number. One or two letters after the numbers are a version, variation or revision identifier (the term used depends on which book you read). Almost all assemblies have one letter after the sequence number (i.e. the first shippable design is dubbed version A), some have two characters, a few have three (i.e. TLNA1A).
Re: [Repeater-Builder] HT-1000
Eric, Or Anyone - I have an HT-1000 here, a couple actually, and I was trying to find out what band my H01K would cover. Is it 146-178 MHz? The other one is exactly the one being discussed. Also - have a few MTX Jedi type Handhelds. Do those follow the same breakdown as the HT-1000? i.e. H01WCC4DB3AN NX = 896-941MHz, 1.0 - 3.9 W, 12.5 kHz Spacing, Dual Mode Trunked, etc etc etc? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 7:45 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HT-1000 Douglas, According to the HT1000 Service Manual, the model number H01SDC9AA3BN breaks down as follows: H - Handheld Portable 01 - HT1000 Model S - 470-520 MHz D - 4.0 - 5.0 Watts RF Power C - Standard Controls, No Display 9 - Channel Spacing is Variable/Programmable A - Primary Operation is Conventional/Simplex A - Primary System Type is Conventional 3 - Feature Level is Limited Plus B - Version Letter is B N - Unique Model Variation is Standard Package Needless to say, your radio is not a good candidate for use at 70 cm. While it is possible to hack the RSS so that you can get the radio to accept 70 cm frequencies, it is quite another thing for the radio to function in the Amateur band with acceptable power and sensitivity, and without burning up the final. Moreover, there is nothing to tune inside the radio; there are significant differences within the radios for each band. Perhaps your best course of action is to sell your radio to someone who needs the S split, and buy an R split radio. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Douglas Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:49 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HT-1000 I have a question, maybe two on the Motorola HT-1000 portable radio. On the Repeater-Builder's information webpage that talks about how to decipher the model number example: H01SDC9AA3BN The forth digit/letter defines the working spectrum example S for the range 470-520mhz, R 438-482mhz, etc. I am talking obviously about the UHF model HT-1000 Jedi series radio here. My question is,are there model R out there and secondly, how easy or difficult to retune the S model if the range is outside the Amateur Radio arena? Many thanks guys. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A
We have a TON of service manuals available for sale. One question though, is that a typo on the model? I thought all Kenwood product lines were TK-XXX. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: n3ltq To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:10 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A Looking for service manual for the TM-733A radio in paper(preferred)or electronic format. B51-8264-00 original or B51-8264-10 revised Document is NLA from Kenwood Thanks Milt N3LTQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A
Thanks for the clarification! Much appreciated! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Juan Tellez To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:09 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A TK is for LMR, TM for ham mobiles, TH for ham portables and TS for Ham stations. JT De: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de La Rue Communications Enviado el: Jueves, 20 de Mayo de 2010 09:13 a.m. Para: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Asunto: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A We have a TON of service manuals available for sale. One question though, is that a typo on the model? I thought all Kenwood product lines were TK-XXX. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF System Budget Example
Got plenty of MaxTracs that should suit your needs if you are interested. Contact me off-list for more details. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF System Budget Example I guess that one got past me. How does it work? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Greg To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF System Budget Example Hi Chuck, TA probably is, I dont think I have seen a portable without it. The voting setup allows comms to take place without having to worry about TA buttons or channel changing. Just set and forget. Greg
Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF System Budget Example
My apologies. There is still so much I need to learn. Thanks for setting the record straight. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: wd8chl To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF System Budget Example On 5/14/2010 12:09 PM, La Rue Communications wrote: Got plenty of MaxTracs that should suit your needs if you are interested. Contact me off-list for more details. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn John, Maxtracs are NOT narrowband compliant, and this is for a Part 90 business, even if it is 'non-profit.' Those radios won't be usable in this situation.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] How About This One?
Thanks to everyone who provided their expertise and input. I like to think we all learned something as much as I have. (Even if just a little) My deepest appreciation to all! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Joe To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] How About This One? It's a Motorola part, I think out of a Micor transmitter, can't remember right now. (CRS, possibly an advanced case of CRAFT) I have a similar ones that are out of a 30-50MHz transmitter. Attached is a photo. This is a low-pass filter that the 3dB cutoff point is 56.6Mhz. I was using this on my 6 meter repeater receiver to eliminate an FM broadcast signal that was co-located on the tower. It's original purpose was a harmonic filter for the transmitter. 73, Joe, K1ike On 5/11/2010 1:31 PM, La Rue Communications wrote: Not sure what this is either. The part numbers turn up nothing in google. Not sure if its even a Motorola product. Has no Moto stamping. Might be something else that someone may be familiar with. The number on the side thats etched in reads 15B84073D01.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Unidentified Micor Part
Thanks John et al! Its good to know that you all can fill in where Google fails! When you want answers, you go to the right source - doubt theres any finer group around than this one. :-) Cheers and thanks again! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: kernkampj To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:30 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Unidentified Micor Part John - That part is actually the low-pass filter used on the output of the power amplifier to prevent harmonics from leaving the unit. It is a pretty good filter, with about 1 dB insertion loss up to 180 MHz, and 3 dB at 200 MHz. After that it falls off pretty fast. Here are my measurements on one unit I have - 200 MHz - 3 dB 206 MHz - 10 dB 216 MHz - 20 dB 230 MHz - 30 dB 234 MHz - 40 dB 259 MHz - 50 dB 275 MHz - 60 dB John - WB4YJT, Sacramento = --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, DCFluX dcf...@... wrote: Looks like a VHF Micor Transmitter Low Pass Filter to me. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:19 AM, La Rue Communications laruec...@... wrote: Need some help here. I have a Micor Part (I think) and the Motorola Code does not bring up anything at all on Google. From my guidelines, I know that this is a VHF Filter/Duplexer Part. The code is TFD6102APR. Pic is attached; One side has Input and Output on the opposide side to its respective receptacle if anyone knows what this doohickey is, I'd really appreciate knowing. :) Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
[Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies
Is Microwave still in demand? I heard that they are an exclusive frequency mostly used by PGE in CA. Is the interest level for microwave bands nil? I have some microwave parts here and consider them junk as I have not heard much about microwave communications lately. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies
Thank you Sir! So from what I understand Sprint is buying out the Microwave frequencies, and Nextel is re-structuring / re-banding the 800 MHz frequencies? Is there an 800 MHz ham band? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies Depends on the band. 2.0-2.2GHz is in the process of getting bought out by Sprint, so most of that equipment is worthless unless it will tune up to 2.4 GHz for use on ham. 7, 12, 24, and 36 GHz are commonly used for commercial applications 2.4, 3.4, 5.8 10 and 24 GHz are useful for amateur radio. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:08 AM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Is Microwave still in demand? I heard that they are an exclusive frequency mostly used by PGE in CA. Is the interest level for microwave bands nil? I have some microwave parts here and consider them junk as I have not heard much about microwave communications lately. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies
With that being said, how popular is the rest of the microwave band? Is it one of the more dangerous bands if used improperly? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies No 800 band for hams, closest is 902-928 which is the 33cm ham band, it is also used by ISM type devices such as cordless phones, baby monitors, 802.11 internet and wireless video senders. 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies
So in a nutshell, microwave is a band of precision and pinpoint accuracy? Common sense that people shouldnt use wood for anything outside that demands long-term stability. Not only do the elements cause warping, but also prone to termites, etc. Wow! Thanks for all the good input! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies Generally microwave is used for point to point communications such as intercity links for telephone and studio to transmitter links for television and radio stations. The power generated by the transmitter is fairly low in the 10-100mW range but the antenna gain of a dish is extremely high 30-40dB depending on frequency and size of the dish, making a 100mW transmitter have an ERP that is 100 - 1000W. With that being said it is probably not a good idea to hang around the appreture of the dish while one of these systems is running. These frequencies are a challange because of the water vapor and rain really like to absorb them and with antenna gain that high the beam width is extremely narrow. I have a 6ft cookie that is .8 degrees wide. Longest path I saw was 65 miles on 12 GHz, had 15 foot dishes on both ends. Normal towers have a tendency to twist depending on wind and temperature variations so its a good idea to mount the dishes with super thick poles directly into the ground with concrete. The local cable company put a system on 24 GHz that went 1 mile. worked great until it rained and got humid, they mounted the dishes on wooden phone poles and they twisted to the point where the link quit working. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:32 AM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: With that being said, how popular is the rest of the microwave band? Is it one of the more dangerous bands if used improperly? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies No 800 band for hams, closest is 902-928 which is the 33cm ham band, it is also used by ISM type devices such as cordless phones, baby monitors, 802.11 internet and wireless video senders. 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies
Thanks Bill! I was initially curious because I have a few Microwave Test equipment pieces here in the shop that I have no idea what to do with. Specifically a 6GHz Pre-Amp and a Vintage Motorola Microwave Modulation Tester. (Not sure what freqs the tester handles. Need to look again). John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Bill Smith To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies Microwave is having a resurgence in popularity. with the demand for wireless data increasing and cellular networks becoming all digital, Microwave is being used where it will be cost-prohibitive to install fiber. Companies like Fiber Tower are providing microwave backhaul for some cellular companies and instead of paying tens or even hundreds of thousands to pull in fiber, they throw in a microwave link for $10,000-$15,000. The microwave equipment of today is nothing like it used to be. The 11 GHz links I have are tower mounted radios and bolt right onto the back of the dish. They have four separate radios built in for redundancy and only need a single cat-5 cable to feed power and signal to them. -- From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 11:50:28 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies So in a nutshell, microwave is a band of precision and pinpoint accuracy? Common sense that people shouldnt use wood for anything outside that demands long-term stability. Not only do the elements cause warping, but also prone to termites, etc. Wow! Thanks for all the good input! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies Generally microwave is used for point to point communications such as intercity links for telephone and studio to transmitter links for television and radio stations. The power generated by the transmitter is fairly low in the 10-100mW range but the antenna gain of a dish is extremely high 30-40dB depending on frequency and size of the dish, making a 100mW transmitter have an ERP that is 100 - 1000W. With that being said it is probably not a good idea to hang around the appreture of the dish while one of these systems is running. These frequencies are a challange because of the water vapor and rain really like to absorb them and with antenna gain that high the beam width is extremely narrow. I have a 6ft cookie that is .8 degrees wide. Longest path I saw was 65 miles on 12 GHz, had 15 foot dishes on both ends. Normal towers have a tendency to twist depending on wind and temperature variations so its a good idea to mount the dishes with super thick poles directly into the ground with concrete. The local cable company put a system on 24 GHz that went 1 mile. worked great until it rained and got humid, they mounted the dishes on wooden phone poles and they twisted to the point where the link quit working. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:32 AM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail. com wrote: With that being said, how popular is the rest of the microwave band? Is it one of the more dangerous bands if used improperly? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl. com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies No 800 band for hams, closest is 902-928 which is the 33cm ham band, it is also used by ISM type devices such as cordless phones, baby monitors, 802.11 internet and wireless video senders. 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl. com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies
Wesley - I am the Web Sales Guru. Knox is teaching me the two way stuff. I am gradually being trained to do the two way stuff (I know how to program and do basic bench checks). Since he does all the servicing and repairs himself. I only do a smidgen of the radio repairs, but I am on hand for the IT and Web stuff. I learn about the equipment on my own since Knox is always busy and out of the shop. The majority of our repair work are in the Analog radios - but even now its surprisingly quiet with all our Agriculture clients out in the field. Its only a matter of time before someone runs over their MaxTrac with a plow or drops their portable into a big puddle. :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Wesley Bazell To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies John, Do you have any time to repair Radios? When I worked for a Motorola Shop. sure didn't have time to play. Wesley AB8KD - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies Thanks Bill! I was initially curious because I have a few Microwave Test equipment pieces here in the shop that I have no idea what to do with. Specifically a 6GHz Pre-Amp and a Vintage Motorola Microwave Modulation Tester. (Not sure what freqs the tester handles. Need to look again). John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Bill Smith To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies Microwave is having a resurgence in popularity. with the demand for wireless data increasing and cellular networks becoming all digital, Microwave is being used where it will be cost-prohibitive to install fiber. Companies like Fiber Tower are providing microwave backhaul for some cellular companies and instead of paying tens or even hundreds of thousands to pull in fiber, they throw in a microwave link for $10,000-$15,000. The microwave equipment of today is nothing like it used to be. The 11 GHz links I have are tower mounted radios and bolt right onto the back of the dish. They have four separate radios built in for redundancy and only need a single cat-5 cable to feed power and signal to them. -- From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 11:50:28 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies So in a nutshell, microwave is a band of precision and pinpoint accuracy? Common sense that people shouldnt use wood for anything outside that demands long-term stability. Not only do the elements cause warping, but also prone to termites, etc. Wow! Thanks for all the good input! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies Generally microwave is used for point to point communications such as intercity links for telephone and studio to transmitter links for television and radio stations. The power generated by the transmitter is fairly low in the 10-100mW range but the antenna gain of a dish is extremely high 30-40dB depending on frequency and size of the dish, making a 100mW transmitter have an ERP that is 100 - 1000W. With that being said it is probably not a good idea to hang around the appreture of the dish while one of these systems is running. These frequencies are a challange because of the water vapor and rain really like to absorb them and with antenna gain that high the beam width is extremely narrow. I have a 6ft cookie that is .8 degrees wide. Longest path I saw was 65 miles on 12 GHz, had 15 foot dishes on both ends. Normal towers have a tendency to twist depending on wind and temperature variations so its a good idea to mount the dishes with super thick poles directly into the ground with concrete. The local cable company put a system on 24 GHz that went 1 mile. worked great until it rained and got humid, they mounted the dishes on wooden phone poles and they twisted to the point where the link quit working
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies
No offense taken or hard feelings! Knox will not be there this year, unfortunately. He has been at the last 3 or so, but this year he just has too much going on. If you're ever in our neck of the woods, feel free to drop by! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Wesley Bazell To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies Ok John. Just Curious. Not trying to be a Smart a--. Will you be at the Dayton Convention? - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies Wesley - I am the Web Sales Guru. Knox is teaching me the two way stuff. I am gradually being trained to do the two way stuff (I know how to program and do basic bench checks). Since he does all the servicing and repairs himself. I only do a smidgen of the radio repairs, but I am on hand for the IT and Web stuff. I learn about the equipment on my own since Knox is always busy and out of the shop. The majority of our repair work are in the Analog radios - but even now its surprisingly quiet with all our Agriculture clients out in the field. Its only a matter of time before someone runs over their MaxTrac with a plow or drops their portable into a big puddle. :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Wesley Bazell To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies John, Do you have any time to repair Radios? When I worked for a Motorola Shop. sure didn't have time to play. Wesley AB8KD - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies Thanks Bill! I was initially curious because I have a few Microwave Test equipment pieces here in the shop that I have no idea what to do with. Specifically a 6GHz Pre-Amp and a Vintage Motorola Microwave Modulation Tester. (Not sure what freqs the tester handles. Need to look again). John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Bill Smith To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies Microwave is having a resurgence in popularity. with the demand for wireless data increasing and cellular networks becoming all digital, Microwave is being used where it will be cost-prohibitive to install fiber. Companies like Fiber Tower are providing microwave backhaul for some cellular companies and instead of paying tens or even hundreds of thousands to pull in fiber, they throw in a microwave link for $10,000-$15,000. The microwave equipment of today is nothing like it used to be. The 11 GHz links I have are tower mounted radios and bolt right onto the back of the dish. They have four separate radios built in for redundancy and only need a single cat-5 cable to feed power and signal to them. -- From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 11:50:28 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies So in a nutshell, microwave is a band of precision and pinpoint accuracy? Common sense that people shouldnt use wood for anything outside that demands long-term stability. Not only do the elements cause warping, but also prone to termites, etc. Wow! Thanks for all the good input! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Just curious... Microwave frequencies Generally microwave is used for point to point communications such as intercity links for telephone and studio to transmitter links for television and radio stations
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Unidentified Micor Part
Thanks Chuck. I downloaded a little article by Mike Morris that breaks down the 3-Letter 4-Digit codes. According to that sheet, it SHOULD be a VHF 144-174 with the slight possibility of reaching down into the 130 range. :) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Unidentified Micor Part It's a harmonic filter, but I don't know enough to tell you what band. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Unidentified Micor Part Need some help here. I have a Micor Part (I think) and the Motorola Code does not bring up anything at all on Google. From my guidelines, I know that this is a VHF Filter/Duplexer Part. The code is TFD6102APR. Pic is attached; One side has Input and Output on the opposide side to its respective receptacle if anyone knows what this doohickey is, I'd really appreciate knowing. :) Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2867 - Release Date: 05/11/10 02:26:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] How About This One?
Thanks James. This thing looks like junk anyway! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: James Delancy To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] How About This One? That thing stinks of receiver splitter of some sorts. I had one in a junk box years ago and never used it. I am also suspecting that it may just be a pad box for use with the MICOR pre-amplifier so that one can attenuate the gain on the pre-amp to a desired level. James WJ1D
Re: [Repeater-Builder] How About This One?
Thanks Milt! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Milt To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] How About This One? Attenuator out of a Mocom 70 UHF control station. - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:31 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] How About This One? Not sure what this is either. The part numbers turn up nothing in google. Not sure if its even a Motorola product. Has no Moto stamping. Might be something else that someone may be familiar with. The number on the side thats etched in reads 15B84073D01. Thanks for your help! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] How About This One?
Thanks Bill! Its good to know not just the name of things, but the function of them as well! If I learn one new thing a day - my day is complete. :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Bill Smith To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] How About This One? It's an attenuator. They were used in control stations to keep their power in compliance with the 6dB rule. -- From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 12:31:51 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] How About This One? Not sure what this is either. The part numbers turn up nothing in google. Not sure if its even a Motorola product. Has no Moto stamping. Might be something else that someone may be familiar with. The number on the side thats etched in reads 15B84073D01. Thanks for your help! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton
Bars + Flea Markets + Lots of HAMs = A great time!!! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Andrew Seybold To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:41 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Our Flea market spots are 737-739, come by and say hello, second row, near the Bar. Andy W6AMS aseyb...@andrewseybold.com 315 Meigs Road, Suite A-267 Santa Barbara, CA 93109 805-898-2460 office 805-898-2466 fax www.andrewseybold.com image001.jpg
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Radius CP100
To provide closure to this topic... Got your email Eric and the PDF attachment. Thank you Sir! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 5:47 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Radius CP100 John, The CP100 was available in four models: 1 and 15 channel radios in VHF, and 1 and 15 channel radios in UHF. The one-channel radios have a default frequency that cannot be changed. The 15-channel radios can be programmed from the front panel for any 15 simplex frequencies from a fixed menu of 27 VHF or 56 UHF frequencies. The power level, bandwidth, and CTCSS/CDCSS codes are programmable. The programming procedure is contained in the CP100 User Guide 6804112J99 which, unfortunately, is no longer available from Motorola Parts. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:41 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Radius CP100 Trying to figure out this radio to program it. Does anyone have the programming instructions somewhere in PDF format? Or at least share with me a method to field program it? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202
[Repeater-Builder] OT: Radius CP100
Trying to figure out this radio to program it. Does anyone have the programming instructions somewhere in PDF format? Or at least share with me a method to field program it? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] test
RX clear as mud. :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Don Kupferschmidt To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:48 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] test Test email. Having some issues with Yahoo Groups sending messages. Don, KD9PT
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)
Its all about the storage capacity. People have, in the past, abused the site for GB of storage. Its probably why Yahoo disallowed that option. (Also makes it dial-up friendly) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 6:05 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) That's it. Funny you can't include in emails and the site. 73, Mike WM4B -- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:37 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) Attachments on Yahoo Groups have these options for the list owner: Attachments a.. Store on site (exclude from emails) b.. Include in emails (exclude from site) c.. Exclude from site and emails Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) mwbese...@cox.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:31 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) If I recall correctly from the Yahoo Group I moderate, there is a way to set up the group so that it does or does not allow attachments to show from the web. I can't remember what it was called, but I remember that it was rather obscure. 73, Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:53 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) Chuck is on the ball more than I am..Yes, if you are not using your email client to view these messages, its very likely the attachments do not show up properly on the web page. I need to check the web page out and verify for myself. In the meantime, you can tell us how you are vieweing these messages. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) You say IE8, so I'm assuming you are viewing the messages on the web rather than individual emails. If so, I suspect that's the problem. I don't know what happens to attachments when you are using the web page to read stuff. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: kd8biw kd8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:26 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) IBM with Windows XP and IE8. Any help is appreciated! Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2846 - Release Date: 04/30/10 14:27:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)
Funny thing is Joe - you're probably right! :-) If you have any kind of computer Mac or PC, I have found VLC (found here http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ ) to be one of the BEST freebie multimedia players out there. It handles EVERYTHING imagineable mediawise and plays smoothly on any platform. All you need now is the attachment from the first post. There are no virii associated with that site and I swear on it from my Computer Tech days. Just my two cents! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Joe To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) I think the illegal porn was giving them headaches. They just banned storing them on their web site. Joe On 5/3/2010 12:13 PM, La Rue Communications wrote: Its all about the storage capacity. People have, in the past, abused the site for GB of storage. Its probably why Yahoo disallowed that option. (Also makes it dial-up friendly)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)
Chuck is on the ball more than I am..Yes, if you are not using your email client to view these messages, its very likely the attachments do not show up properly on the web page. I need to check the web page out and verify for myself. In the meantime, you can tell us how you are vieweing these messages. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) You say IE8, so I'm assuming you are viewing the messages on the web rather than individual emails. If so, I suspect that's the problem. I don't know what happens to attachments when you are using the web page to read stuff. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: kd8biw kd8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:26 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) IBM with Windows XP and IE8. Any help is appreciated!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)
What kind of computer are you two running? Mac or PC? I can try to shed some light on this issue for you if I know what OS you are running. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: serc...@sbcglobal.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:41 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) Ditto on not seeing any attachments.. Mike, WA9FDO
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers
So if I had a UHF Saber, and programmed it to a Police frequency for the purposes of TX EMERGENCY info only like 911, then its required to have authorization? What if I was involved in a wreck and my radio was the only thing in reach over my cell? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: kd6aaj To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:58 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers Strange, considering the GMRS can come with radios you buy, before you even have the license. I guess you have to be one of the BIG boys to sell radios preprogrammed with those freqs. and there is an EXCEPTION: Title 47: Telecommunication PART 90-PRIVATE LAND MOBILE RADIO SERVICES Subpart N-Operating Requirements § 90.427 Precautions against unauthorized operation. (a) Each transmitter shall be so installed and protected that it is not accessible to or capable of operation by persons other than those duly authorized by and under the control of the licensee. Provisions of this part authorizing certain unlicensed persons to operate stations, or authorizing unattended operation of stations in certain circumstances, shall not be construed to change or diminish in any respect the responsibility of station licensees to maintain control over the stations licensed to them (including all transmitter units thereof), or for the proper functioning and operation of those stations and transmitter units in accordance with the terms of the licenses of those stations. (b) Except for frequencies used in accordance with §90.417, no person shall program into a transmitter frequencies for which the licensee using the transmitter is not authorized. and: § 90.417 Interstation communication. top (a) Any station licensed under this part may communicate with any other station without restriction as to type, service, or licensee when the communications involved relate directly to the imminent safety-of-life or property. (b) Any station licensed under this part may communicate with any other station licensed under this part, with U.S. Government stations, and with foreign stations, in connection with mutual activities, provided that where the communication involves foreign stations prior approval of the Commission must be obtained, and such communication must be permitted by the government that authorizes the foreign station. Communications by Public Safety Pool eligibles with foreign stations will be approved only to be conducted in accordance with Article 5 of the Inter-American Radio Agreement, Washington, DC, 1949, the provisions of which are set forth in §90.20(b). [43 FR 54791, Nov. 22, 1978, as amended at 62 FR 18933, Apr. 17, 1997] ---end of CFR regs--- So, what's to stop someone from saying they programmed a freq for emergency use only? Why else have the exception, unless you are expected to have an unauthorized frequency programed in your radio? So, the exception (90.417) clearly makes 90.427 un-enforceable UNLESS you can prove intent to operate on the unauthorized frequency for NON-emergency communications. The school was operating on the frequency, but they don't say what kind of communication was involved. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wd8chl wd8...@... wrote: In February, a large two-way radio dealer was issued a Notice Of Violation (NOV) by the FCC for adding a frequency into radios that the customer was not licensed for. The Notice stated that Section 90.427(b) prohibits programming into a transmitter frequencies the licensee using the transmitter is not authorized for. Make sure your customers are licensed for the frequencies you put in radios you sell! Information from Mission Critical Magazine, May 2010. FCC enforcement case NOV 20103298. - Jim Barbour Transcore
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers
Purely hypothetical. Not even close to thinking of doing that. :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers you should not even think of doing that. - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers So if I had a UHF Saber, and programmed it to a Police frequency for the purposes of TX EMERGENCY info only like 911, then its required to have authorization? What if I was involved in a wreck and my radio was the only thing in reach over my cell? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: kd6aaj To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:58 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers Strange, considering the GMRS can come with radios you buy, before you even have the license. I guess you have to be one of the BIG boys to sell radios preprogrammed with those freqs. and there is an EXCEPTION: Title 47: Telecommunication PART 90-PRIVATE LAND MOBILE RADIO SERVICES Subpart N-Operating Requirements § 90.427 Precautions against unauthorized operation. (a) Each transmitter shall be so installed and protected that it is not accessible to or capable of operation by persons other than those duly authorized by and under the control of the licensee. Provisions of this part authorizing certain unlicensed persons to operate stations, or authorizing unattended operation of stations in certain circumstances, shall not be construed to change or diminish in any respect the responsibility of station licensees to maintain control over the stations licensed to them (including all transmitter units thereof), or for the proper functioning and operation of those stations and transmitter units in accordance with the terms of the licenses of those stations. (b) Except for frequencies used in accordance with §90.417, no person shall program into a transmitter frequencies for which the licensee using the transmitter is not authorized. and: § 90.417 Interstation communication. top (a) Any station licensed under this part may communicate with any other station without restriction as to type, service, or licensee when the communications involved relate directly to the imminent safety-of-life or property. (b) Any station licensed under this part may communicate with any other station licensed under this part, with U.S. Government stations, and with foreign stations, in connection with mutual activities, provided that where the communication involves foreign stations prior approval of the Commission must be obtained, and such communication must be permitted by the government that authorizes the foreign station. Communications by Public Safety Pool eligibles with foreign stations will be approved only to be conducted in accordance with Article 5 of the Inter-American Radio Agreement, Washington, DC, 1949, the provisions of which are set forth in §90.20(b). [43 FR 54791, Nov. 22, 1978, as amended at 62 FR 18933, Apr. 17, 1997] ---end of CFR regs--- So, what's to stop someone from saying they programmed a freq for emergency use only? Why else have the exception, unless you are expected to have an unauthorized frequency programed in your radio? So, the exception (90.417) clearly makes 90.427 un-enforceable UNLESS you can prove intent to operate on the unauthorized frequency for NON-emergency communications. The school was operating on the frequency, but they don't say what kind of communication was involved. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wd8chl wd8...@... wrote: In February, a large two-way radio dealer was issued a Notice Of Violation (NOV) by the FCC for adding a frequency into radios that the customer was not licensed for. The Notice stated that Section 90.427(b) prohibits programming into a transmitter frequencies the licensee using the transmitter is not authorized for. Make sure your customers are licensed for the frequencies you put in radios you sell! Information from Mission Critical Magazine, May 2010. FCC enforcement case NOV 20103298. - Jim Barbour Transcore
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers
I forgot to add something, kind of crucial to my point at the end back there. if my life was in jeopardy then. Is there a frequency that Law Enforcement monitors for non emergency situations? For the public sector? Or would it be any officer who knows how to build their own scanners? Let me reclarify - if I was in an accident, and my radio was in reach over my cell (i.e. my cell was in my pocket, or got knocked under the seat), and I had a life threatening injury, what kind of response would that evoke? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Maire-Radios To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers you should not even think of doing that. - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers So if I had a UHF Saber, and programmed it to a Police frequency for the purposes of TX EMERGENCY info only like 911, then its required to have authorization? What if I was involved in a wreck and my radio was the only thing in reach over my cell? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: kd6aaj To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:58 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers Strange, considering the GMRS can come with radios you buy, before you even have the license. I guess you have to be one of the BIG boys to sell radios preprogrammed with those freqs. and there is an EXCEPTION: Title 47: Telecommunication PART 90-PRIVATE LAND MOBILE RADIO SERVICES Subpart N-Operating Requirements § 90.427 Precautions against unauthorized operation. (a) Each transmitter shall be so installed and protected that it is not accessible to or capable of operation by persons other than those duly authorized by and under the control of the licensee. Provisions of this part authorizing certain unlicensed persons to operate stations, or authorizing unattended operation of stations in certain circumstances, shall not be construed to change or diminish in any respect the responsibility of station licensees to maintain control over the stations licensed to them (including all transmitter units thereof), or for the proper functioning and operation of those stations and transmitter units in accordance with the terms of the licenses of those stations. (b) Except for frequencies used in accordance with §90.417, no person shall program into a transmitter frequencies for which the licensee using the transmitter is not authorized. and: § 90.417 Interstation communication. top (a) Any station licensed under this part may communicate with any other station without restriction as to type, service, or licensee when the communications involved relate directly to the imminent safety-of-life or property. (b) Any station licensed under this part may communicate with any other station licensed under this part, with U.S. Government stations, and with foreign stations, in connection with mutual activities, provided that where the communication involves foreign stations prior approval of the Commission must be obtained, and such communication must be permitted by the government that authorizes the foreign station. Communications by Public Safety Pool eligibles with foreign stations will be approved only to be conducted in accordance with Article 5 of the Inter-American Radio Agreement, Washington, DC, 1949, the provisions of which are set forth in §90.20(b). [43 FR 54791, Nov. 22, 1978, as amended at 62 FR 18933, Apr. 17, 1997] ---end of CFR regs--- So, what's to stop someone from saying they programmed a freq for emergency use only? Why else have the exception, unless you are expected to have an unauthorized frequency programed in your radio? So, the exception (90.417) clearly makes 90.427 un-enforceable UNLESS you can prove intent to operate on the unauthorized frequency for NON-emergency communications. The school was operating on the frequency, but they don't say what kind of communication was involved. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wd8chl wd8...@... wrote: In February, a large two-way radio dealer was issued a Notice Of Violation (NOV) by the FCC for adding a frequency into radios that the customer was not licensed for. The Notice stated that Section 90.427(b) prohibits
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)
Extraterrestrial signals? :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Rob To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) On 4/28/2010 6:19 PM, Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: Can anybody identify the signal in the attached file? It appears on 158.275 +/- 5 KHz or so. I set my receiver to AM mode for this recording. It does appear in FM and NFM, but not as clearly. Note that the PRF is not fixed... it does vary over time. It is audible over a fairly large (10 - 12 miles that I've checked so far) area. I doubt that is has anything to do with the pager interference I've been having, but it does happen to be just about half of our suspected mix frequency of around 316.6 MHz. Thanks, Mike WM4B That signal sounds much like one I am hearing up here in Central MA on the MURS frequencies. It rotates through all 5 frequencies somewhat randomly and I hear it over a 4-5 mile radius. Fortunately, it is 20 miles from my home so it doesn't bother me on a daily basis but I do hear it during my normal commute. - Rob
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)
I can only IMAGINE what kind of interference those that live around Area 51 get! :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:39 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) Well, Robins AFB is just up the street. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:37 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) Extraterrestrial signals? :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Rob To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) On 4/28/2010 6:19 PM, Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: Can anybody identify the signal in the attached file? It appears on 158.275 +/- 5 KHz or so. I set my receiver to AM mode for this recording. It does appear in FM and NFM, but not as clearly. Note that the PRF is not fixed... it does vary over time. It is audible over a fairly large (10 - 12 miles that I've checked so far) area. I doubt that is has anything to do with the pager interference I've been having, but it does happen to be just about half of our suspected mix frequency of around 316.6 MHz. Thanks, Mike WM4B That signal sounds much like one I am hearing up here in Central MA on the MURS frequencies. It rotates through all 5 frequencies somewhat randomly and I hear it over a 4-5 mile radius. Fortunately, it is 20 miles from my home so it doesn't bother me on a daily basis but I do hear it during my normal commute. - Rob
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Signal on 158.275(ish)
Thats a good movie by the way. :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) Didn't get enough of it, but I would that might be a prime number sequence like in the movie Contact. See what you get in on UHF Channel 37 (608-614 MHz) which is nationwide reserved for radio astronomy.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far
Kevin - I'd like a copy for our files as well, just in case. Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: kevin valentino To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far Sent the program to George, Bon Hal. If anyone else wants a copy you can ask myself or them. Please do not post It in a file section on any groups, (I look in those), It's copyrighted. It's nothing fancy but does a fairly good job with some nice little utilities to boot. Old as dirt but hey I did'nt pay for it either. To the ones that get it, please let me know how you like it. I have another that's great for calculating transformers and other such good junk. Enjoy --- On Sat, 4/24/10, kevin valentino kevinvalent...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: kevin valentino kevinvalent...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 10:31 PM Allright just found the darn program. Was on an older machine. Norton picks up a virus, ARRGH, so i will remove it and send it to ypu. You can share this amongst yourselves but I would appreciate if you DID NOT upload it to any files section of ANY group , it is copyrighted. Back to removing the NYB, wish me luck --- On Sat, 4/24/10, kevin valentino kevinvalentino@ sbcglobal. net wrote: From: kevin valentino kevinvalentino@ sbcglobal. net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 9:00 PM OK there is a cute little program that actually comes fairly close to calculating effective radio range based on height, power, line loss(has a cable database), and frequency. Add the cavity losses in with the line loss. Calculate the portable at 6 feet, unity gain, using worst case terrain type scenario. I will send it to you. --- On Sat, 4/24/10, George gueorg...@yahoo. com wrote: From: George gueorg...@yahoo. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 8:43 PM ok the antenna is from cell site 14dbm 4-element in a plastic housing, the amplifier is 600 watts capable linear mosfet 8element hybrid splitters and combiners... but the power supply is up to 65 ampers at 24 volts, driven by a C class 130 watt amplifier. the antenna is not on a commercial tower (no luck here). 20 feet above the house. the line is heliax andrew semi-rigid. the repeater is in the attic and the line is 30feet. the duplexer is celwave doesn't like more than 450 watts in. --- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com, kevin valentino kevinvalentino@ ... wrote: Any approximation would depend on the repeater antenna height and the terrain of the area. I would hate to see the price tag on an 800MHZ 450W amplifier :-) I do mean literally approximation. Many factors come into play. Especially at high frequencies. The length and type of the antenna feedline, gain of antenna used, etc. --- On Sat, 4/24/10, George gueorg...@. .. wrote: From: George gueorg...@. .. Subject: [Repeater-Builder] how far To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 7:24 PM Â what is the range of a 800mhz handheld 4watts with msf5000 repeater 450watts on the antena
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 3' motorola or GE cabinet wanted.
Same here Larry - We have a bunch of cabinets that we are trying to get rid of on the cheap as well. Deep ones like yours. Need to make room for a Two Way Radio Museum here and scrapping the units that are not selling. We dont even have the units on eBay or Craigslist, but Kijiji and Craigslist might not be a bad idea. People out there DO need them. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: larryjspamme...@teleport.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 3' motorola or GE cabinet wanted. Too bad you're so far away (I'm in Portland, OR). I'm just getting ready to list some on the local craigslist - my garage is overflowing and some cars need the space. I have some of the deep Quantar/MICOR type cabinets - the short ones, medium height, and 5-foot tall ones. And one - 40 tall GE MASTR II Cabinet. All of the Motorola cabinets are the deep ones that would hold repeaters with duplexers, etc. IF they don't sell locally, they're off to the metal scrapper. Larry -Original Message- From: rush8001 Sent: Apr 26, 2010 11:47 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 3' motorola or GE cabinet wanted. I've been looking around for a short cabinet, and can't seem to find what I'm looking for. The MSR2000 cab I have is not deep enough for my repeater project. If anyone has anything they want to get rid of in the CT area, contact me off list. Thanks!!
[Repeater-Builder] OT: Programming Help Needed - Saber
I have run into a brick wall at a rather high rate of speed... as fast as DOS can run anyway. I am trying to figure out the band split of a (Presumed) VHF Saber Securenet Capable portable / handheld. I have the standard DOS RSS for Saber version 07.01.00 with a Moto Rib Box etc. I have programmed and read many other models of Sabers, except for this one particular model. Factory ID: H43TUN5170CN Model is H99QX + 104H, which I think is a package number. Google turns up that it may be a Military issue and no information can be found on this. Is this true? Thanks for your input! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Programming Help Needed - Saber
Thanks Kris! Good stuff! Can you think of any reason why this radio will not be read by the RSS in the first place? All I get are Serial Bus I/O Error was detected. I know it seems like something not connected properly, but it reads all other models of Sabers just fine. This is the only RSS I have for the Sabers. COuld it be an improper version? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Kris Kirby To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Programming Help Needed - Saber On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, La Rue Communications wrote: I have run into a brick wall at a rather high rate of speed... as fast as DOS can run anyway. I am trying to figure out the band split of a (Presumed) VHF Saber Securenet Capable portable / handheld. I have the standard DOS RSS for Saber version 07.01.00 with a Moto Rib Box etc. I have programmed and read many other models of Sabers, except for this one particular model. Factory ID: H43TUN5170CN H43TUN5170xN, 6 watt, VHF Systems Saber I Model is H99QX + 104H, which I think is a package number. Google turns up that it may be a Military issue and no information can be found on this. Is this true? Generate a new codeplug in the RSS and dial the options around until you see a model tag that matches the above Model. That will tell you without reading what you're holding. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
[Repeater-Builder] Frequency Listing Sites
Hi Folks - Are there any reliable and up to date frequency listings for County Agencies (i.e. Sheriff / Fire / EMS)? I am planning a trip down to Los Angeles from Stockton (San Joaquin) for the weekend with my family and I would like to build a scanner using a UHF Saber and a VHF Saber. These do not have scan capabilities - So its manual channel switching for me! I would love to include the CHP on there too but I have no portables that are functional that will tune down to the Low Band Range (Much to my heart's dismay). Unless there is a way to tune Sabers to their Receive frequency. Right now I am looking at http://www.freqofnature.com and wanted to pick your brains on that site. Is it good, trustworthy? Reliable? Any HAM repeaters in that range that I can listen in to as well? Since I am hard of hearing, it takes a bit of training my ears to properly identify words without seeing lips. So that helps too! Thanks a Ton! Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Listing Sites
Thanks Ian and Tim - I need to sign myself up to get the Excel gear, which I will do! Happily! By far, the best one is the RadioReference site. Its clean, easy to navigate and got more than I bargained for. Bookmarked! Anyone know if CHP has a VHF or UHF Frequency, or are they entirely Lowband? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: va...@securenet.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Listing Sites Have a look on www.radioreference.com Its a streaming scanner site, lots of listings and there may be some details on what frequencies are being monitored in which areas. Regards Ian VA2IR At 12:09 PM 4/23/2010, you wrote: Hi Folks - Are there any reliable and up to date frequency listings for County Agencies (i.e. Sheriff / Fire / EMS)? I am planning a trip down to Los Angeles from Stockton (San Joaquin) for the weekend with my family and I would like to build a scanner using a UHF Saber and a VHF Saber. These do not have scan capabilities - So its manual channel switching for me! I would love to include the CHP on there too but I have no portables that are functional that will tune down to the Low Band Range (Much to my heart's dismay). Unless there is a way to tune Sabers to their Receive frequency. Right now I am looking at http://www.freqofnature.com and wanted to pick your brains on that site. Is it good, trustworthy? Reliable? Any HAM repeaters in that range that I can listen in to as well? Since I am hard of hearing, it takes a bit of training my ears to properly identify words without seeing lips. So that helps too! Thanks a Ton! Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2830 - Release Date: 04/23/10 06:31:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Listing Sites
Fantastic Chris! Thank you! Just noticed you work in CoCo County. We own repeaters on Diablo (North Peak) and Mount Vaca. John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Chris Quirk To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:45 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Listing Sites Also have several UHF frequencies, they use these in SF. Also have the Golden Gate dispatcher The list below has the state wide take a look for Golden Gate 460.02500RM 127.3 PL Lima Ch 3 Clemars FM Interop 460.25000 KMG999 RM 127.3 PL Lima Ch 4 Coastal Division FM Law Talk 460.37500 KYJ339 RM 127.3 PL Lima Ch 5 Border/Inland Division FM Law Talk 460.45000 KYK292 RM 127.3 PL Lima Ch 6 Valley/Central Division FM Law Talk 453.2 KYK296 RM 127.3 PL Lima Ch 7 State Capitol Police FM Law Talk 453.82500 KYJ331 RM 127.3 PL Lima Ch 8 Golden Gate Division FM Law Talk 453.85000 KYJ331 RM 127.3 PL Lima Ch 9 Golden Gate Division FM Law Talk 460.08750 KYK296 M 127.3 PL Lima Ch 10 Tactical 1 FM Law Tac 460.21250 KYK296 M 127.3 PL Lima Ch 11 Tactical 2 FM Law Tac 460.33750 KYK296 M 127.3 PL Lima Ch 12 Tactical 3 FM Law Tac 465.08750 KYK296 M 127.3 PL Lima Ch 13 Tactical 4 FM Law Tac 465.21250 KYK296 M 127.3 PL Lima Ch 14 Tactical 5 FM Law Tac 465.33750 KYK296 M 127.3 PL Lima Ch 15 Tactical 6 Chris Quirk; W6CJQ WQHA994 District Emergency Coordinator East Bay Section - District 3 (Contra Costa County) ARRL, The National Association for Amateur Radio™ Home: 925-828-1003 Mobile: 925-202-1198 Fax 925-828-1027 w6...@arrl.net --- On Fri, 4/23/10, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net wrote: From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Listing Sites To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 9:34 AM John, Yes, the CHP uses several VHF frequencies for extender usage. The officer carries a VHF radio on his/her belt, and it communicates with the car radio for relaying signals to/from the base station. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Listing Sites Thanks Ian and Tim - snip Anyone know if CHP has a VHF or UHF Frequency, or are they entirely Lowband? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Listing Sites
Thanks Andy! Just programmed it in, and immediately got a little chatter on it. Our shop is right off the freeway - kinda cool! :) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Andrew Seybold To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 11:38 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Listing Sites CHP uses mostly 154.905 for their extenders (Pac-Rats), and they also use it for chatter between cars-if you can hear a signal on that channel there is at least one car close to you, when they leave the car and activate their handheld you will hear a beep on that channel also, many CHP cars have started keeping their Pac-RT's turned off until they exit the car-however many still keep them on all of the time. Andy From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:35 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Listing Sites John, Yes, the CHP uses several VHF frequencies for extender usage. The officer carries a VHF radio on his/her belt, and it communicates with the car radio for relaying signals to/from the base station. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:22 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Listing Sites Thanks Ian and Tim - snip Anyone know if CHP has a VHF or UHF Frequency, or are they entirely Lowband? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Radius P50
You and me Both Brian! :) I have 6 of them I think. 4 tall 2 short. Been around forever! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Brian Alesio To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Radius P50 Several weeks ago it seemed that someone had an interest in acquiring UHF Motorola P50 radio sets. If anyone is interested, email me directly I have a fair assortment compact / standard and keypad equipped p50+ complete units, boards, chargers and I would love to clear away some space. BRIAN
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Radius P50
Indeed it was a good laugh. :) I did not take any offense to it. Just got ready to clear up some shelf space here. :) If people just jump into a conversation without knowledge of prior discussion - it can lead to some fun results, or not. :) Cheers! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: kevin valentino To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Radius P50 Hello, The conversation started was about a guy on ebay that had 2 P-50's for some outrageous amount. A thread started about us all making fun of that. Myself in particular saying i would'nt pay $5 bucks for both and had thrown away alot of them a few years ago. I thensaid I was interested in a P-50, which was a typo. I apoligized for the typo when I said sorry to burst your bubble when someone emailed me excitedly expecting to get rid of some. I had meant to say SP-50. Several of us laughed from there but I guess there were a few that did not follow the whole thread. Hope this clears any confusion. --- On Thu, 4/22/10, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Radius P50 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 11:46 AM You and me Both Brian! :) I have 6 of them I think. 4 tall 2 short. Been around forever! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl. com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Brian Alesio To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Radius P50 Several weeks ago it seemed that someone had an interest in acquiring UHF Motorola P50 radio sets. If anyone is interested, email me directly I have a fair assortment compact / standard and keypad equipped p50+ complete units, boards, chargers and I would love to clear away some space. BRIAN
[Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola Spectra Astro VHF or UHF?
Hi Gang - I have an Spectra Astro beleived to be a UHF. As you can see from the picture, this is a two peice unit. Radio pack and control head. I looked through the RB Archives, extensively but only found Astros that are one peice. (Control head built in) This is a former Police radio that I am trying to locate the band split. A Google search turned up something on RadioReference.com specifying it was a VHF 146-178, but that was a bit sketchy. I want to be absolutely certain what split that this radio covers. We thought it was a UHF 450-470 split, but now moreso Im stumped. Model number is: T04KLF9PW5AN FCC ID: AZ492FT3773 Thanks for your input, no matter how small! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
