[Rosegarden-user] Some Useful RGD Files for Rosegarden Users
Hi all, I have a few new RGD files which people might find useful. These include RGDs for the Casio XW-P1, the M-Audio Venom and the Kurzweil PC3 series with ROM revisions V2.03 and higher. Could someone direct me to the simplest way to get these files to the developers without having to subscribe to the listserv? I was a subscriber once and simply found the signal to noise ratio of this group to be too low for my mailbox. Thanks in advance, Gary -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] KXStudio
Sorry to hear that, but you must be running some pretty ancient or oddball hardware for that to be an issue. Personally I have it running on two desktops with Q8300 and one laptop with T4200 Intel multicore CPUs. All of them run flawlessly. I learned my lesson and stopped buying AMD CPUs after Y2K when I had serious issues with overheating. So which was your case? Oddball CPU or ancient? Regards, Gary All The World's A Stage... Listen to my tunes @ >>> http://soundcloud.com/happyrat1 <<< - --- On Wed, 8/29/12, david wrote: > From: david > Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] KXStudio > To: "rosegarden-user" > Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2012, 2:48 PM > Last I tried KXStudio, it wouldn't > run on any of my main audio systems > because it requires the processor have the PAE extensions, > which mine don't. > > On 08/29/2012 04:26 AM, S. Christian Collins wrote: > > I will second this recommendation. Another nice > touch is the ability to > > run PulseAudio as a Jack client, which means using > KXStudio, I never > > have problems with applications not able to produce > sound. > > > > -~Chris > > > > On 08/29/2012 09:22 AM, Gary G. wrote: > >> I've seen a lot of buzz on the list lately about > >> Multimedia Based Distros and Addons that make > >> working with Rosegarden and Jack Audio a little > >> easier. > >> > >> I've been using KXStudio for the past year without > >> a hiccup. It's an addon for Ubuntu and > Kubuntu but > >> also claims to be workable with other distros as > >> well. > >> > >> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ > >> > >> It works well, is well maintained and generally > >> quite stable. I'd fully recommend it to > anyone out > >> there who is having trouble trying to fit all the > >> pieces of the puzzle together on their own... ;) > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Gary > >> > >> > >> > >> All The World's A Stage... Listen to my tunes > @ > >> > >>>>> http://soundcloud.com/happyrat1<<< > >> - > >> > >> > -- > >> Live Security Virtual Conference > >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways > today's security and > >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers > can respond. Discussions > >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and > the latest in malware > >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > > -- > David > gn...@hawaii.rr.com > authenticity, honesty, community > http://clanjones.org/david/ > http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/ > > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's > security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can > respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the > latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net > - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] KXStudio
I've seen a lot of buzz on the list lately about Multimedia Based Distros and Addons that make working with Rosegarden and Jack Audio a little easier. I've been using KXStudio for the past year without a hiccup. It's an addon for Ubuntu and Kubuntu but also claims to be workable with other distros as well. http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ It works well, is well maintained and generally quite stable. I'd fully recommend it to anyone out there who is having trouble trying to fit all the pieces of the puzzle together on their own... ;) Regards, Gary All The World's A Stage... Listen to my tunes @ >>> http://soundcloud.com/happyrat1 <<< - -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Kronos .rgd
writes: > > Hi, > Would anyone be interested in a .rgd file for the Korg Kronos? > > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > I'm not currently running a Kronos but you should upload the RGD as an attachment to the list. At least that way it will be archived should anyone require it in the future and may possibly end up in future releases of Rosegarden. Regards, Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Casio XW-P1 RGD File
Here we go folks. A fully functional and debugged Casio XW-P1 RGD file. After months of scrounging I laid my hands on the new INS file, did a few minor edits and ran ins2rgd.py on it. With a bit of coaxing, everything works! Now none of you have any excuse not to get one of these hot new keyboards... ;) Hopefully it will be included in all future Rosegarden builds as a standard library file. Enjoy, Gary All The World's A Stage http://soundcloud.com/happyrat1 casio-xwp1.rgd Description: Binary data -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden Crashing on Bootup
Hi all, I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 with KXstudio addons and AFAIK the most recent Rosegarden version from the KXstudio archives. I haven't run rosegarden for about a week or so and after a week of cumulative updates and a recent kernel update Rosegarden is now crashing on bootup. Here's the output I get when I try and run it in a terminal. Anyone spot any obvious turds in the punchbowl? [code]--- userone@machineone:~$ rosegarden Setting graphics system for Qt 4.5+ to: raster Thorn - true System Locale: en_US Qt translations path: /usr/share/qt4/translations Qt translations not loaded. RG Translation: trying to load :locale/en_US RG Translations loaded successfully. Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-16x16" Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-32x32" Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-48x48" Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-64x64" Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-128x128" NOTE: Found stylesheet at ":/rosegarden.qss", applying it AlsaDriver::AlsaDriver [begin] Rosegarden 11.11.42 - AlsaDriver [ALSA library version 1.0.25, module version 1.0.24, kernel version 3.2.0-23-lowlatency] PluginFactory::instance(dssi): creating new DSSIPluginFactory LADSPAPluginFactory::discoverPlugins - discovering plugins; path is [/usr/lib/dssi] [/usr/local/lib/dssi] [/usr/lib32/dssi] [/home/userone/.dssi] JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK sample rate = 48000Hz, buffer size = 1024 JackDriver::initialiseAudio - creating disk thread JackDriver::initialiseAudio - found 6 JACK physical outputs JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from "rosegarden:master out L" to "system:playback_1" JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from "rosegarden:master out R" to "system:playback_2" JackDriver::initialiseAudio - found 6 JACK physical inputs JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from "system:capture_1" to "rosegarden:record in 1 L" JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from "system:capture_2" to "rosegarden:record in 1 R" JackDriver::initialiseAudio - initialised JACK audio subsystem ALSA Client information: 14,0 - (Midi Through, Midi Through Port-0) (DUPLEX) [ctype 2, ptype 655362, cap 99] 16,0 - (CA0106, CA0106 MPU-401 (UART)) (DUPLEX) [ctype 2, ptype 589826, cap 127] 28,0 - (CASIO USB-MIDI, CASIO USB-MIDI MIDI 1) (DUPLEX) [ctype 2, ptype 589826, cap 127] 32,0 - (TR, TR MIDI 1) (DUPLEX) [ctype 2, ptype 589826, cap 127] 128,0 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 0) (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66] 128,1 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 1) (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66] 128,2 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 2) (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66] 128,3 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 3) (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66] AlsaDriver::setCurrentTimer((auto)) Current timer set to "system timer" with timer checks AlsaDriver::initialiseMidi - initialised MIDI subsystem AlsaDriver::setCurrentTimer((auto)) Current timer set to "system timer" with timer checks Composition::getTrackById(0) - WARNING - track id not found, this is probably a BUG src/base/Composition.cpp:1601 Available track ids are: AlsaDriver::addDevice(0,0) CREATED OUTPUT PORT 3:out 1 - unnamed for device 0 Connecting my port 3 to 32:0 on reconnection AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "32:0 TR MIDI 1 (duplex)" requested for device 0 AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: exact match available Renamed 130:3 to Korg_TR AlsaDriver::addDevice(0,1) AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice: device 1, action 1 AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice: device 1, action 0 AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice: device 1, action 1 AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice: port is 32:0 AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice - successfully subscribed device 1 as record port AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "32:0 TR MIDI 1 (duplex)" requested for device 1 AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: exact match available WARNING: AlsaDriver::renameDevice: Cannot find device 1 in port map AlsaDriver::addDevice(0,0) CREATED OUTPUT PORT 4:out 2 - unnamed for device 2 Connecting my port 4 to 28:0 on reconnection AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "28:0 CASIO USB-MIDI MIDI 1 (duplex)" requested for device 2 AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: exact match available Renamed 130:4 to General MIDI Synth AlsaDriver::addDevice(0,1) AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice: device 3, action 1 AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice: device 3, action 0 AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice: device 3, action 1 AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice: port is 28:0 AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice - successfully subscribed device 3 as record port AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "28:0 CASIO USB-MIDI MIDI 1 (duplex)" requested for device 3 AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: exact match available WARNING: AlsaDriver::renameDevice: Cannot find device 3 in port map audio file manager emitting fake setValue(100) Rosega
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD
jimmy writes: > > > > Post and attach tar/zip copy of those files to this mailing list, so other people can help out, or learn by fumble-around on their own if they want. It's Rosegarden related, so it's not off-topic on this list. > > Jimmy How do you attach anything to this Listserv? Actually is it a Listserv or an NNTP server? The web interface has no attachment button and the faq mentions nothing about attachments. Also could you trim your word wrap to 80 chars please? The crappy gmane editor bitches about including your quotes until I fix them manually. Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
Andy writes: > > >david wrote: > You should do a bug report on the bug reporting system of your distro (Ubuntu > / Debian) asking the distro packagers to include this script in the next > package update. > > The script is quite hidden as all other scripts in the /scripts/ directory in > the source code appear to be build or development related (of no use to normal > users), so I imagine the packagers never noticed this script. > > I will certainly include this script in the next update of my Redhat / Centos > / SL Rosegarden package. I run Kubuntu 12.04 with the KXstudio multimedia extensions and Rosegarden 11.11.42 from whatever repo KXstudio installed when it was installed. http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Main_Page While this is an excellent environment for sequencing MIDI, it becomes such a bastardized distro to maintain that I wouldn't have the first clue whom to approach with such a suggestion. My thinking is that the Rosegarden Developers should change the initial package so that the script is placed in ~/.local/share/rosegarden/library right alongside the RGD files with a README at compile time as a standard compile/make option. If any user is dealing with RGD issues, that would be the very first place they'd look and they wouldn't have to worry about root permissions if they are limited users on the system. Regards, Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
Andy writes: > > Gary G. wrote: > > > > It looks like 7 years ago the developers of Rosegarden had indeed been > > developing such a script. > > > > A fellow by the name of Pedro Lopez-Cabanillos was working on exactly this > > problem with a perl script called ins2rgd.pl Somehow it seems the project > > simply vanished or lost interest. > > Actually I just checked and that script is still included in the current > rosegarden source code tarball, you can find it under /scripts/. > > Here are some instructions on how to use it: > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5102 > > If the rgd file format and the ins file format hasn't changed since 2005 , > then the script should still work fine. > > Let us know how you get on with it. The thing is, that most of us don't install Rosegarden from Tarballs. 99% of us use whatever package manager comes with our distros. I can state categorically that there is no such script included with the *buntu distros out there. The command line syntax is listed within the comments of the script itself. Anyway, neither here nor there, it seems to work ok with the program patches and controllers but seems to have trouble interpreting the combi patches on my Korg TR. It's not a perfect solution but at least it's a working one. I had to do some minor tweaking in the Rosegarden RGD editor but I did manage to at least get the program patches working. BTW, the Cakewalk/Sonar INS file is based on the MIDI standard and hasn't really changed in the past 20 years or so, Regards, Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
Gary G. writes: > Perhaps some genius script programmer out there could write a conversion > utility that converts Cakewalk/Sonar INS files into RGDs? > Such a utility would allow instant access to a library of thousands of > MIDI instruments and save us all the mind numbing task of entering > thousands of parameters by hand. It looks like 7 years ago the developers of Rosegarden had indeed been developing such a script. A fellow by the name of Pedro Lopez-Cabanillos was working on exactly this problem with a perl script called ins2rgd.pl Somehow it seems the project simply vanished or lost interest. Here's one of the threads regarding this. http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5107 And here's the only working link I could find to any actual version of the script. http://www.koders.com/perl/fid0B8CD4AE74BB2A1553B928B4BBE8BC4C405E909B.aspx?s=none I've run a few tests and so far it doesn't seem to be producing the required output, however, I'll play around with it for a bit and see if I can get it to work. The comments mention some hard coded variables that may have to be changed to get it to work properly. Here's a few links I've found on the Cakewalk INS definitions format. http://www.raisedbar.net/InsDef.htm http://tse3.sourceforge.net/doc/InsFiles.html http://www.tweakheadz.com/how_to_build_a_cakewalk_ins_file.htm If any perl wizards out there want to take a look at the code and can point out any obvious errors or potential fixes for the script, then by all means please shout them out in here. At any rate, the perl code looks much simpler and easier to follow than the python txt2rgd.py script that seems to be the official solution these days. Once again, if there are any perl wizards out there who can help with this, the more the merrier... Regards, Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
D. Michael McIntyre writes: > > On Sunday, May 13, 2012, Gary G. wrote: > > > One thing I've already noticed is that... the txt2rgd.py script doesn't seem > > to call in any archivers... I'm sort of wondering if it even works as > > intended to begin with. > > Yes, Rosegarden can read these files whether they're compressed or not. > Compressed is standard, and the compression format used is gzip, not rar. Thanks for the filespec info Michael. That's a big help. And a Big Thanks for all the effort you put in to keep all of us musically inclined geeks happy. :) I'll send the modified script back to you guys as soon as I'm sure it does what it's supposed to do. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
Andy writes: > > btw, here's the tech spec for the Cakewalk INS Format: > > > > http://www.raisedbar.net/InsDef.htm > > Sounds like a good idea, I would do it in Perl if I was doing it, since I have > decent Perl knowledge and no Python knowledge and Perl is the perfect language > for text file manipulation, but right now I neither have the time nor the need > for a script like this (currently I don't even have the time to use Rosegarden > much. ). > > I think it would take more than an evening though, even to a seasoned script > writer. > > Good luck! > The thing is, there's an existing python script called txt2rgd.py that I can simply modify. Basically I won't even have to touch the I/O routines and simply have to change or add a few lines to the parser. With any luck I might have it working by next weekend. Barring any major snags in format. One thing I've already noticed is that RGD files are rar compressed and the txt2rgd.py script doesn't seem to call in any archivers, so I'm sort of wondering if it even works as intended to begin with. Anyway, lots of research ahead of me, so I'll post it up here once I have something working :) Regards, Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
Gary G. writes: > > david writes: > > > > > On 05/12/2012 11:56 AM, david wrote: > > > On 05/12/2012 11:04 AM, Gary G. wrote: > > >> Perhaps this would be better targeted to the developers' list but here's > > >> another thought on RGD files. > > >> > > >> Perhaps some genius script programmer out there could write a conversion > > >> utility that converts Cakewalk/Sonar INS files into RGDs? Or perhaps > > >> even one of the Rosegarden Developers could write an import utility to > > >> accomplish the same thing directly within the Rosegarden application > > >> itself? ...snip... > > >> Such a utility would allow instant access to a library of thousands of > > >> MIDI instruments and save us all the mind numbing task of entering > > >> thousands of parameters by hand. Honestly I'd think a simple perl or > > >> python script would be all that's necessary to make Rosegarden a > > >> thousand times more useful than it is even now. > > > > > > You mean something like the script mentioned here? > > > > > > http://rosegardenmusic.com/resources/documents/rgd-HOWTO.shtml ...snip... > I downloaded and ran txt2rgd.py shortly after I posted and tried it out > on a Cakewalk INS file that specifically targets my Korg TR. It barfed > out over 2400 errors!!! > > Now if I have to go in and reformat 2400 lines in order to create a viable > text file for the conversion that's really not going to save me a lot of > grunt work. And that's only for ONE synth! > > Now seriously, I'm a user, not a programmer nor a spreadsheet wizard. I > haven't touched a line of code since college over 25 years ago. > > Seeing as Cakewalk/Sonar INS files are ubiquitous, unchanged for over two > decades and as close as a standard as anyone can get to set out instrument > definitions, it strikes me as a long overdue and almost trivial > afterthought for any seasoned script programmer to write a 100 line or so > conversion utility. ...snip... > In fact, if nobody steps up to the plate on this and offers to write it, I > may just end up having to do it myself anyway. ...snip... So the more I look at this problem, the easier path seems to be simply downloading a tutorial on python, spend a week learning the language, and writing the utility myself. Figure with having to learn the API and system calls and researching the file formats (I know sweet-f***-all about XML documents) I should have something up and running within a week or two and fully debugged and free to release under GNU license within a month at the outside. At least it'll be useful to everyone else who struggles along sequencing $2000 synths with basic General MIDI patches. For a seasoned python or perl script writer this would be an evening's work at most, but like I said, I haven't coded in 25 years, so if no one else is willing to do it I guess I'll start printing up the necessary research material and kludge something together when I have the time. Even with all that, it will STILL be easier than reformatting the crap in a spreadsheet and make RGD creation in the future a pleasure rather than having one's wisdom teeth extracted anally like it is today. :D Wish me luck and if anyone with more "skilz" than I gotz wants to take this off my hands by all means feel free. I won't be insulted. :D btw, here's the tech spec for the Cakewalk INS Format: http://www.raisedbar.net/InsDef.htm Regards, Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
david writes: > > On 05/12/2012 11:56 AM, david wrote: > > On 05/12/2012 11:04 AM, Gary G. wrote: > >> Perhaps this would be better targeted to the developers' list but here's > >> another thought on RGD files. > >> > >> Perhaps some genius script programmer out there could write a conversion > >> utility that converts Cakewalk/Sonar INS files into RGDs? Or perhaps > >> even one of the Rosegarden Developers could write an import utility to > >> accomplish the same thing directly within the Rosegarden application > >> itself? > >> > >> While IANAL and have no idea if the INS format is proprietary or not, > >> FOSS is full of reverse engineered document viewers and converters which > >> seem to coexist beautifully with their non free counterparts. > >> > >> Such a utility would allow instant access to a library of thousands of > >> MIDI instruments and save us all the mind numbing task of entering > >> thousands of parameters by hand. Honestly I'd think a simple perl or > >> python script would be all that's necessary to make Rosegarden a > >> thousand times more useful than it is even now. > > > > You mean something like the script mentioned here? > > > > http://rosegardenmusic.com/resources/documents/rgd-HOWTO.shtml > > Oh, sorry, that's not the script, it's a how to that mentions a script > that converts properly-formatting plain text or CVS files into RGD. > I downloaded and ran txt2rgd.py shortly after I posted and tried it out on a Cakewalk INS file that specifically targets my Korg TR. It barfed out over 2400 errors!!! Now if I have to go in and reformat 2400 lines in order to create a viable text file for the conversion that's really not going to save me a lot of grunt work. And that's only for ONE synth! Now seriously, I'm a user, not a programmer nor a spreadsheet wizard. I haven't touched a line of code since college over 25 years ago. Seeing as Cakewalk/Sonar INS files are ubiquitous, unchanged for over two decades and as close as a standard as anyone can get to set out instrument definitions, it strikes me as a long overdue and almost trivial afterthought for any seasoned script programmer to write a 100 line or so conversion utility. Hell, the last code I wrote was in Turbo Pascal and even I could kludge together something that could do the job if I had all the parameters handy. In fact, if nobody steps up to the plate on this and offers to write it, I may just end up having to do it myself anyway. Lord knows it's a hell of a lot easier than transcribing the Bible in Calligraphy, which is what the conventional wisdom seems to dictate is the only way to create a viable RGD file. Just something to ponder... Gary -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files
Perhaps this would be better targeted to the developers' list but here's another thought on RGD files. Perhaps some genius script programmer out there could write a conversion utility that converts Cakewalk/Sonar INS files into RGDs? Or perhaps even one of the Rosegarden Developers could write an import utility to accomplish the same thing directly within the Rosegarden application itself? While IANAL and have no idea if the INS format is proprietary or not, FOSS is full of reverse engineered document viewers and converters which seem to coexist beautifully with their non free counterparts. Such a utility would allow instant access to a library of thousands of MIDI instruments and save us all the mind numbing task of entering thousands of parameters by hand. Honestly I'd think a simple perl or python script would be all that's necessary to make Rosegarden a thousand times more useful than it is even now. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] RGD Files-A unified Archive?
Hi all, This is my first posting to this listserv. I have twice emailed a subscribe note to the moderator without response, however I am foggy on the mechanics of using this listerv as the layout does not seem to be the most user friendly I have ever seen. I've been using various versions of Rosegarden off and on for years now and for the past year and a half have been using it exclusively . My current setup is Kubuntu 12.04 LTS plus KXstudio driving a Korg TR76 and most recently a Casio XW-P1 keyboard. Now the Korg TR is essentially a Triton LE with a few minor improvements and the Casio is a brand new performance synth including patches from their old CZ series. Originally the Korg TR was happy enough with the bundled RGD files for the Korg X50 program and X50 combi patches, though in the latest Rosegarden Release the combi patches have disappeared from bundled library. Ideally I'd like to find a true Triton LE or Korg TR series RGD as well as a Casio XW-P1 RGD file ready made. I realize I could manually enter about 4000 parameters by hand and create my own however this strikes me as monumentally tedious as well as hopelessly redundant. What I propose, and forgive me if it already exists, is setting up an archive somewhere on the web for all RGD files and versions submitted by users past, present and future. I honestly cannot believe that no one, no where has never set up a Triton LE RGD but the more plausible belief is that probably many have done so over the years and they have been set aside and forgotten as musicians have moved along to newer shinier toys. Believe me, I'd be far more inclined to spend a month of tedious data entry documenting and configuring an RGD for the Casio and the TR IF there was some certainty that I wouldn't be the only one to ever use it. So I pose to you here these questions. 1) Does anyone have a complete or embryonic version of a Korg TR or Triton LE RGD file they would be willing to share or collaborate on? 2) Does anyone out there have a complete or embryonic Casio XW-P1 RGD they would be willing to share or collaborate on? 3) If one does not already exist, would the maintainers of Rosegarden be willing to set up an archive resource of past, present and future RGD contributions both from developers as well as users? Should such an archive already exist, could someone PLEASE point me at it because Google searches are coming up empty? -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
