Re: [sage-devel] Single instance of R only

2018-12-24 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Dec 24, 2018, 7:21 AM Andrey Novoseltsev On Sunday, 23 December 2018 19:23:27 UTC-7, William wrote: >> >> I didn't have anything to do with the change, but for what it is >> worth, it was definitely not my intention that calling R() twice only >> creates one interface. >> When I designed a

Re: [sage-devel] Single instance of R only

2018-12-23 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 5:37 PM Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: > > This is what we had: > ┌┐ > │ SageMath version 8.4, Release Date: 2018-10-17 │ > │ Type "notebook()" for the browser-based notebook interface.

Re: [sage-devel] Python 3 startup time speedup

2018-12-17 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 7:01 AM E. Madison Bray wrote: > > Hi all, > > For those of you interested in following the Python 3 port of Sage, > you'll be amused to learn that an effectively one line change [1] made > startup time of Sage on Python 3 about 20 times faster, and almost as > fast as on P

[sage-devel] "COMPUTATIONAL MATHEMATICS WITH SAGEMATH"

2018-12-12 Thread William Stein
"COMPUTATIONAL MATHEMATICS WITH SAGEMATH" is now in English and published on paper by a traditional publisher. http://bookstore.siam.org/ot160/ There's also a free online version. http://sagebook.gforge.inria.fr/english.html #sagemath Paul tells me that all royalties will be converted into book c

Re: [sage-devel] Report for critical bug on CoCalc

2018-10-26 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 11:58 AM Maestro CaID wrote: > > Please i want to report a critical bug, Because it's dangereuse if public see > it, That's why i'm looking for an email to send the details of this bug to > the support team privately. h...@sagemath.com >Thanks, > > -- > You received th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there a math alternative to range and interval?

2018-10-18 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:58 PM Kwankyu Lee wrote: > (2) interval should be redefined to give a list of Integers. Do you agree? I wouldn't change it, because that code that depends on how it works will break. And having a 1-year deprecation policy for this would be very ugly. Also, it doesn't s

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Smith Normal Form over ZZ seriously slow

2018-10-10 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 3:29 PM Travis Scrimshaw wrote: > > So the bulk of the time is spent converting the Pari object back into a Sage > object; mainly, this line: > > U = self.matrix_space(ncols = self._nrows)([v[0][i,j] for i in > xrange(self._nrows-1,-1,-1) for j in xrange(self._nrows)]) >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Remove sagenb documentation from the reference manual?

2018-10-10 Thread William Stein
Hi, I wrote much of sagenb and am why sagenb is currently not optional. I'm fine with removing it from sage and/or making it optional. William On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:43 AM Timo Kaufmann wrote: > > I'm also in favor. Besides being more complicated, I think doing something > different here fo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: want to play around with Sage built using Python3 with minimal effort?

2018-10-08 Thread William Stein
Nice -- updating it now. On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:06 PM Frédéric Chapoton wrote: > > Could you please update to the latest beta release (8.4.rc0) so that people > can enjoy the recent progress ? > > See https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/26212 > > Frédéric > > Le lundi 8 octobre 2018 15:49:15 UTC+

[sage-devel] want to play around with Sage built using Python3 with minimal effort?

2018-10-08 Thread William Stein
Hi, If you want to play around with a copy of Sage built using Python3 instead of Python2 (so 'export SAGE_PYTHON3="was"') without having to build or install anything, send me an email (wst...@gmail.com) and I'll add you to a CoCalc project [1] that has Sage built that way. See how long until it

Re: [sage-devel] Article on machine assisted proofs

2018-09-27 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 11:55 AM, John Cremona wrote: > Many readers of this mailing list will be interested in > https://arxiv.org/abs/1809.08062 : > > Machine-Assisted Proofs (ICM 2018 Panel) > James Davenport, Bjorn Poonen, James Maynard, Harald Helfgott, Pham Huu > Tiep, Luís Cruz-Filipe > (Th

Re: [sage-devel] sage foundation ???

2018-09-27 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 1:07 AM, Frédéric Chapoton wrote: > Apparently, people can "donate to the SAGE foundation" using this link : > https://www.washington.edu/giving/make-a-gift/?page=make&Code=MATSAG > Who is in charge ? How much money is collected (I would guess almost > nothing) ? Our math

Re: [sage-devel] sage foundation ???

2018-09-26 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 3:14 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:35 AM Jeroen Demeyer wrote: >> >> On 2018-09-24 18:00, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> > Perhaps the most tricky is 2 (or perhaps not anymore, after out >> > infamous CoC discussion fiasco we could agree it makes sense t

Re: [sage-devel] sage foundation ???

2018-09-25 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 4:53 AM kcrisman wrote: > > The booth tends to be about three things: >> >> - Sage >> - CoCalc >> - the Univ of Washington math grad program >> >> See attached picture from the last booth, which has the CoCalc and Sage >> banners. >> People come by and often talk with

Re: [sage-devel] sage foundation ???

2018-09-24 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Erik Bray wrote: > 5) also might be harder than you think--or at least, even if we can > come up with an uncontroversial list of names, it's a discussion that > invites questions about project governance. To make it easier, I would suggest that the three names are

Re: [sage-devel] sage foundation ???

2018-09-24 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:00 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > 1, 3, 4 is there or very easy to set up. 5 should not be too hard either. > Perhaps the most tricky is 2 (or perhaps not anymore, after out > infamous CoC discussion fiasco we could agree it makes sense to get > something in place; we can h

Re: [sage-devel] sage foundation ???

2018-09-24 Thread William Stein
Sep 24, 2018 at 3:35 PM William Stein wrote: >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:12 AM, kcrisman wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 1:18:50 AM UTC-4, rjf wrote: >> > >> >> > >> I assume that oth

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Developer guide for casual user

2018-09-23 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Simon King wrote: > Hi Andy, > > On 2018-09-23, Andy Howell wrote: >> I'd guess the word "tricks" was objectionable. What I meant was >> techniques like locating the source using funcName? Now that I know that >> exists, I can add it to my "practice". Discovering

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Developer guide for casual user

2018-09-23 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 8:27 AM, Andy Howell wrote: > I vaguely remember some kind of python sandboxing system, the I'm not sure > if that would apply here. virtualenv. We don't use it for sage dev though. My advise is that you just have a second copy of Sage, unless you are very low on disk sp

Re: [sage-devel] sage foundation ???

2018-09-22 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > IMHO it's better for a potential donor to see more info on how the > money is spent, with the list of events/tasks on what the donations > are spent. An Sage project outsider won't have a clue, and might have > a feeling it goes into a sink

Re: [sage-devel] sage foundation ???

2018-09-22 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 3:45 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 11:21 AM Volker Braun wrote: >> >> Afair the Sage foundation is a US non-profit with the necessary accounting >> busywork graciously provided by UW; So I'm sure there is similar reporting >> thats either published

Re: [sage-devel] Developer guide for casual user

2018-09-21 Thread William Stein
Since Travis answered, I'll also throw in some answers for variety (I mainly going to mention things that are complementary)... On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 9:29 AM, Andy Howell wrote: > How to setup a testing environment that won't interfere with my > installed sage. I would *always* install a compl

Re: [sage-devel] sage foundation ???

2018-09-21 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 1:07 AM Frédéric Chapoton wrote: > Hello, > > Apparently, people can "donate to the SAGE foundation" using this link : > https://www.washington.edu/giving/make-a-gift/?page=make&Code=MATSAG > > which is advertised here : http://www.sagemath.org/development-ack.html > > Who i

[sage-devel] Fwd: Sage is currently #1 on Hacker News

2018-09-15 Thread William Stein
-- Forwarded message - From: Alex Clemesha Date: Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 2:02 PM Subject: Sage is currently #1 on Hacker News To: William Stein Just wanted to mention: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17995031 in case you were interested :) -Alex -- You received this message

Re: [sage-devel] Discussion about Sage packaging status

2018-09-07 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 5:04 AM, Samuel Lelièvre wrote: > Dear sage-devel, > > A tentative "status of Sage packaging and distribution" posted on the > sage-packaging mailing list is resulting in an interesting discussion at: > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sage-packaging/ZJmJZi1Tawo/discussio

Re: [sage-devel] Re: talk

2018-09-04 Thread William Stein
Indeed, that link is no longer valid. Please visit this one instead: https://tinyurl.com/yac6cyzg On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 7:48 PM, saad khalid wrote: > Hello: > > The link seems to be broken, I was hoping to take a second look at some of > the items on the wishlist. is there any way you could re

Re: [sage-devel] Enabling Merge Requests from GitLab

2018-08-21 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:43 AM, Erik Bray wrote: > Some of you may remember this is not a first for Sage either: some > time ago there was a similar experiment done with GitHub, but it fell > unmaintained. If anyone has any lessons learned from that time, > please add them. I think Robert Brad

Re: [sage-devel] Start a Sage session from a session of its own Python interpreter ?

2018-08-14 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 6:57 AM, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM Erik Bray wrote: >> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 7:07 PM Emmanuel Charpentier >> They might >> also be amenable to a patch. It might not even need to be >> Sage-specific; for example maybe it would be go

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Adding a help() method to Sage objects?

2018-08-09 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 7:04 AM, Erik Bray wrote: > On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:23 PM Simon King wrote: >> >> Hi Eric, >> >> On 2018-08-09, Erik Bray wrote: >> > But it got me thinking: Maybe it would actually be nice if most Sage >> > classes--or at least those inheriting from SageObject, had some

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Adding a help() method to Sage objects?

2018-08-09 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 6:20 AM, Simon King wrote: > Hi Eric, > > On 2018-08-09, Erik Bray wrote: >> But it got me thinking: Maybe it would actually be nice if most Sage >> classes--or at least those inheriting from SageObject, had some >> version of this .help() method. Although we already do a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: talk

2018-07-30 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 11:34 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2018-07-30 18:31, Erik Bray wrote: >> >> This is a bit far-out, but what if we just didn't show tracebacks at >> all by default? > > > Sorry to say, but that would be a horrible idea. Even if the tracebacks are > completely useless for o

Re: [sage-devel] Re: talk

2018-07-30 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018, 9:31 AM Erik Bray wrote: > On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 11:25 PM William Stein wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Jeroen Demeyer > wrote: > > > On 2018-07-29 17:27, William Stein wrote: > > >> > > >>

Re: [sage-devel] Re: talk

2018-07-29 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2018-07-29 17:27, William Stein wrote: >> >> Even disentangling the preparser would help a lot... > > > That's the second-oldest open ticket: > https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/71 > Jeroen -- it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: talk

2018-07-29 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Jul 29, 2018, 8:24 AM saad khalid wrote: > On the topic of error messages, I would like to add that this issue has > almost singlehandedly prevented any of my mathematics and physics > professors from using Sage or Cocalc in a classroom setting. This of course > Yes. It greatly increases

Re: [sage-devel] Re: talk

2018-07-25 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 8:11 AM, Erik Bray wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 8:03 AM jplab wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> It is great to have a recent snapshot of the status of Sage and a wishlist! >> >> This summer marks the 10th year when my brother showed me Sage for >> the first time at the beginning

Re: [sage-devel] talk

2018-07-25 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Erik Bray wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 9:18 PM William Stein wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I just wrote a short talk that I'm about to give at ICMS 2018 about a >> sort of Sage status report and wishlist: >> >> htt

Re: [sage-devel] Re: talk

2018-07-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Timo Kaufmann wrote: > I really like your wishlist! The all-or-nothing nature of sage and the slow > startup time > (although it's actually more like 1.3 seconds with a warm cache > on my machine) Precisely how are you benchmarking this, and what is your machine?

Re: [sage-devel] Quaternion algebras

2018-07-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > You write in your wishlist > > Quaternion algebras over totally real fields > > What exactly do you want to do? I want to compute Hilbert modular forms over totally real fields. > PARI/GP has done a lot in that direction in > recent years,

Re: [sage-devel] Release schedule survey

2018-07-18 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Volker Braun wrote: > Since Erik is clamoring for a more calendar-driven release schedule, here is > a quick A/B test: > > A) Keep the current process of releasing approximately every 3 months, > longer if people insist on having their own pet tickets merged at the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How parallel should @parallel be?

2018-07-11 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 7:11 AM, Julian Rüth wrote: > Thanks for the feedback so far. It seems that there are pros and cons to all > of the options. > > What about the following: We go with the somewhat random min(8, number of > threads) and print a warning once if "number of threads" > 8 (telling

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Names of objects in sage

2018-07-03 Thread William Stein
Back in 2005 I implemented a "rename" method on all parents as one way to address this problem. Basically: sage: R. = PolynomialRing(GF(7)['y,z']) sage: R Univariate Polynomial Ring in x over Multivariate Polynomial Ring in y, z over Finite Field of size 7 sage: R.rename('R') R sage: R.rename("F7

[sage-devel] Fwd: Monitor is DOWN: trac

2018-06-16 Thread William Stein
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: divisions

2018-06-09 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 7:18 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2018-06-09 11:12, Volker Braun wrote: >> >> But thats the thing about //, it is not natural wrt. embedding in a >> larger ring. The whole point is that it throws away information, so you >> cannot expect the diagram to commute: >> >> sage:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-01 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, 10:23 AM 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel < sage-devel@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > On Friday, 1 June 2018 18:02:35 UTC+2, Bill Hart wrote: >> >> hence my suggestion to randomise the shortlist or remove it. >> > > Another technical solution, if the list is retained in any form o

Re: [sage-devel] Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-01 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 5:46 AM, 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel wrote: > I have a suggestion how this could be made more equitable for the many > dependencies of Sage. Regarding revamping the main landing page, i think it should be done in a way in which all design decisions are focused around maximiz

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for the SageMath website

2018-06-01 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 7:22 AM, 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel wrote: > > > On Friday, 1 June 2018 15:12:31 UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: >> >> >> This seems very reasonable; the list probably dates to a much earlier time >> when there were some "main" dependencies but now there are SO many ... Can >> you m

Re: [sage-devel] Sage developer co-authors article on women's representation in subfields

2018-05-26 Thread William Stein
On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 7:33 AM, Ursula Whitcher wrote: > On 5/25/2018 11:26 AM, William Stein wrote: >> >> I can't / wont read it because of the paywall. Can you copy/paste the >> paragraph that mentions Sage? (or screenshot it). Fair use of small >> exce

Re: [sage-devel] Book Review of Stein book

2018-05-25 Thread William Stein
On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 10:47 AM, kcrisman wrote: > Less relevant, but still ... Also probably behind a paywall ... anyway, this > is a review of Barry Mazur and William Stein's book on the Riemann > Hypothesis by someone who knows something about writing good books about > analytic number theory

Re: [sage-devel] Sage developer co-authors article on women's representation in subfields

2018-05-25 Thread William Stein
On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 8:02 AM, kcrisman wrote: > Unfortunately a paywall, but very interesting data and analysis relevant to > mathematical software communities too - plus, Sage developer and co-author > Ursula Whitcher of Math Reviews gives a shout-out to SageMath in the author > bio :) > https

Re: [sage-devel] Getting a code signing certificate for Sage

2018-05-23 Thread William Stein
ssue on the Sage > Foundation Side, ODK could certainly pay now for the next couple > years. > > Cheers, > Nicolas > > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 08:26:58AM -0700, William Stein wrote: >>It would of course be natural for Sage Founda

Re: [sage-devel] Getting a code signing certificate for Sage

2018-05-22 Thread William Stein
It would of course be natural for Sage Foundation to do this. Write to me off list. On Tue, May 22, 2018, 7:19 AM Erik Bray wrote: > I would like to be able to sign future versions of the Sage for > Windows installer. Not only does it just *look* more professional > (users don't get a "Installi

Re: [sage-devel] optional package doctests badly broken

2018-05-11 Thread William Stein
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[sage-devel] Re: [sagemath-admins] Trac downtime for upgrades

2018-05-11 Thread William Stein
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Re: [sage-devel] article in the notices AMS

2018-05-07 Thread William Stein
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 12:53 PM Frédéric Chapoton wrote: > William Stein has given an interview to the notices: > > http://www.ams.org/journals/notices/201805/rnoti-p540.pdf > > You may find this an interesting thing to read.. > Frédéric, thanks for posting. I mention S

Re: [sage-devel] Re: division in Zmod(6)

2018-05-02 Thread William Stein
And just for fun, a Jupyter notebook version (just curious if this would "just work", and it does): https://cocalc.com/share/4a5f0542-5873-4eed-a85c-a18c706e8bcd/support/2018-05-02-nemo.ipynb?viewer=share On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Samuel Lelievre wrote: > For comparison, Nemo gives an erro

Re: [sage-devel] Nearly self-referential

2018-05-01 Thread William Stein
On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 12:25 PM, kcrisman wrote: > http://sagecell.sagemath.org/?z=eJyryE5O0TC0tDDXBAASWQLV&lang=sage CoCalc version: https://cocalc.com/share/4a5f0542-5873-4eed-a85c-a18c706e8bcd/support/xkcd.sagews?viewer=share and on CoCalc we really do have probably a dozen different python

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How much do we support the casual user

2018-04-09 Thread William Stein
n which >> of both ("is_prime_number" or "is_prime_element") should keep the name >> "is_prime"? I found contributions for both possibilities! >> >> Best, >> Sebastian >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscrib

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How much do we support the casual user

2018-03-29 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Nils Bruin wrote: > On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 10:37:03 AM UTC-7, William wrote: >> >> >> It's surprisingly easy to implement this, due to how Robert Bradshaw >> rewrote this part of the Sage preparser.If you define this >> function in a notebook or comman

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How much do we support the casual user

2018-03-29 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:01 PM, saad khalid wrote: > On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 1:52:17 AM UTC-5, Simon King wrote: >> >> Hi Andrey and Saad, >> >> On 2018-03-28, Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: >> > On Tuesday, 27 March 2018 18:03:48 UTC-6, saad khalid wrote: >> >> >> >> Why not assume by defau

Re: [sage-devel] How much do we support the casual user

2018-03-27 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 03/27/2018 12:22 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> There are similar examples in MATLAB, involving rational numbers, >> implicit floating point, etc. >> > > Does multiplication by a positive scalar chang

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How much do we support the casual user

2018-03-27 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Nils Bruin wrote: > On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 10:48:34 AM UTC-7, Ralf Stephan wrote: >> >> Nils, >> >> See https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21067 >> >> for a rational factor_list(). > > > I don't think that helps casual user's API at all. If I have to write >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How much do we support the casual user

2018-03-27 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:59 AM, John Cremona wrote: > > > On 27 March 2018 at 17:43, Nils Bruin wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 9:35:34 AM UTC-7, William wrote: >>> >>> Just curious -- does that have the *potential* to break Magma library >>> code? E.g., maybe deep in some package co

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How much do we support the casual user

2018-03-27 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Nils Bruin wrote: > On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 12:07:41 AM UTC-7, Ralf Stephan wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I thought I'd try Sage for a casual computation. I was interested in which >> numbers of the form (2^n - (-1)^n)/3 are prime. I first tried out n=23: >> >> sage

Re: [sage-devel] How much do we support the casual user

2018-03-27 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:21 AM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 03/27/2018 12:18 PM, William Stein wrote: > > > > I don’t consider that a bug. > > > > I know, but ask anyone without a PhD in math. > There are similar examples in MATLAB, involving rational numbers

Re: [sage-devel] How much do we support the casual user

2018-03-27 Thread William Stein
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Re: [sage-devel] How much do we support optional packages.

2018-03-25 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 6:53 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > On 25 March 2018 at 10:03, Vincent Delecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Apparently Volker does not agree with what was a kind of agreement here >> >> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/24903#comment:3 >> https://trac.sagemath

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Move the automatic_names() feature into the Sage interpreter proper

2018-03-19 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Thierry wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 08:32:23AM -0700, Nils Bruin wrote: >> On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 8:04:07 AM UTC-7, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> >- Some functions (mostly inherited from Maxima) *do* already create >> >new symbol

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Shortcoming in Jupyter Notebook w.r.t. latex in help

2018-03-19 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Erik Bray wrote: > It looks like, just from reading the Jupyter docs, this where we can > control what '?' returns at the kernel level: > http://jupyter-client.readthedocs.io/en/stable/messaging.html#introspection > > So if Sage could just return a snippet of the a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Move the automatic_names() feature into the Sage interpreter proper

2018-03-16 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Nils Bruin wrote: > On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 7:43:45 AM UTC-7, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: >> >> Two chronic offenders are Maxima's solver and differential equation >> solver(s), which routinely add new symbolic constants as required by their >> inputs. In th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Move the automatic_names() feature into the Sage interpreter proper

2018-03-15 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:43 AM, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > [...] However, most CASes now available do away without this mandatory > declaration. And hence Sage should have automatic_names as a non-default *option*. See the mission statement, which is to create a viable alternative to Maple,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GitHub authentication is live on trac.sagemath.org

2018-03-14 Thread William Stein
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Re: [sage-devel] Make JupyterLab a standard package

2018-03-05 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Samuel Lelièvre wrote: > I opened a ticket to make JupyterLab a standard package: > > https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/24904 > > Any opinions? There is a murky discussion about making JupyterLab Python3-only maybe as part of the 1.0 release, with the argument partl

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Fwd: GSoC 2018: Sage Mathematical Software System has been accepted as a mentor organization!

2018-02-12 Thread William Stein
Congrats! And thanks to all the great mentor project ideas! On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > yes! > -- Forwarded message -- > From: "Google Summer of Code" > Date: 12 Feb 2018 17:10 > Subject: GSoC 2018: Sage Mathematical Software System has been accept

Re: [sage-devel] Reworked configure

2018-01-31 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Erik Bray wrote: [...] > > Anyways, speaking of comments, if you wanted to debug a specific > package you could, as William suggested, copy the example and comment > the package out from NORMAL_PACKAGES, thus excluding it from the macro > expansion. If you add a n

Re: [sage-devel] Reworked configure

2018-01-31 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:46 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2018-01-31 14:37, Erik Bray wrote: >> >> All that's changed is how they're presented. > > > But that is a very important change! It's like "all I changed is replacing > your car by instructions on how to build a car". > >> I'm replacing

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage Days next July in Zaragoza (Spain)

2018-01-17 Thread William Stein
There is a generic (unknown) mailing list for organizing Sage Days: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sage-days I just made Miguel and Travis owners, so they can add anybody else, make them owners, etc. William On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:56 AM, Vincent Delecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.c

Re: [sage-devel] country-wide Jupyter cloud computing service in Canada

2017-12-23 Thread William Stein
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[sage-devel] Fwd: [IPython-dev] display of dicts?

2017-12-18 Thread William Stein
Relevant to recent discussion on sage-devel... Forwarded conversation Subject: [IPython-dev] display of dicts? From: Chris Barker Date: Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 5:08 PM To: ipython-...@python.org As Guido has just declared that dicts will now officially preserve order: ht

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Why doesn't #23931 get merged?

2017-12-09 Thread William Stein
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: SageNB and ldap packages

2017-12-08 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Jori Mäntysalo wrote: > On Fri, 8 Dec 2017, William Stein wrote: > >>> I know. But there is still no notebook sharing in other choises, and that >>> is >>> what are used here for teaching. >> >> >> CoCalc has a c

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SageNB and ldap packages

2017-12-08 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Jori Mäntysalo wrote: > On Fri, 8 Dec 2017, Maarten Derickx wrote: > >> Maybe not a direct answer to your question. But if you plan on setting up >> an ldap authenticated sage >> server these days and you are planning on actually maintaining it for some >> time in

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Why doesn't #23931 get merged?

2017-12-07 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Frédéric Chapoton wrote: > We have currently 115 such positive-reviewed tickets waiting for inclusion, Maybe the release manager could use some assistance? Or we could rotate to more release managers like we used to do for many years... > see > > https://trac.sage

Re: [sage-devel] Development suggestion

2017-12-06 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:09 PM, David Cousens wrote: > Hi > > Has anyone considered making the menu section of the sage Web interface non > scrolling and only making the worksheet cell part of the interface > scrollable. What is " the sage Web interface"? > I find myself often scrolling back thr

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Amazon SageMaker

2017-12-01 Thread William Stein
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-11-30 Thread William Stein
John Cremona: > Please can we just use "mathematics" and not argue about abbreviations? -- > John +1000 On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Matthew Schroeder wrote: > Dear John, > > Thank you for your interest in resolving this problem. > > To answer your question I am referring to > http://www.

Re: [sage-devel] Amazon SageMaker

2017-11-30 Thread William Stein
r Sage, is one of the people who works at Amazon on SageMaker, so maybe there is hope. -- William -- -- William Stein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it

Re: [sage-devel] ask.sagemath

2017-11-10 Thread William Stein
to being blocked, don't hesitate to post... > > > On 10/11/2017 21:26, William Stein wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm using "William Stein2 (karma: 2069, badges: ● 1)". Please >> unblock me.I'm not a spammer :-) >> >> Wi

Re: [sage-devel] ask.sagemath

2017-11-10 Thread William Stein
Hi, I'm using "William Stein2 (karma: 2069, badges: ● 1)". Please unblock me.I'm not a spammer :-) William On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Vincent Delecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > which account are you using? "William Stein" (wst...

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Re: How to send a sagetex file to someone who doesn't use sage?

2017-11-08 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > I tried to anwer this question, hinting at makestatic.py (part of SageTeX). > It turns out that this script is indeed unmaintained and currently not > working. The bug(s) aren't obvious to me... > > I have edited my ask.sagemath.org ans

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Polyhedron.integral_points_count() gives inconsistent answers on slices

2017-11-04 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > Can you show the output of the crash on CoCalc? Also, the crash could just be running out of memory... > > > On Saturday, November 4, 2017 at 3:46:01 PM UTC-7, Mark Bell wrote: >> >> Thanks! >> >> I'm not sure if this is the right place to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Getting rid of the pickle jar

2017-10-30 Thread William Stein
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Getting rid of the pickle jar

2017-10-29 Thread William Stein
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Getting rid of the pickle jar

2017-10-29 Thread William Stein
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Re: [sage-devel] Getting rid of the pickle jar

2017-10-27 Thread William Stein
t of objects, unless you are sure to keep the specific version of sage you used around. We should say that we gave up and decided not to put even the slightest effort into making save/load work over time. William > > Best, > Travis > > > -- > You received this message because

Re: [sage-devel] Online Sage Days

2017-10-27 Thread William Stein
hat we > send to Mathematica and what it returns could be a useful first step... > Emmanuel, you really understand Sage... William -- -- William Stein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [sage-devel] Sagemath mirrors security issues

2017-10-25 Thread William Stein
a sage-user's computer, and you would own all their data. >>> >>> It is irresponsible of us (me) to distribute Sage without full >>> https/openssl support, at a minimum. I really appreciate everybody's help >>> to resolve this... >>> >>&

Re: [sage-devel] Sagemath mirrors security issues

2017-10-25 Thread William Stein
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-24 Thread William Stein
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage stuck with GNU parallel

2017-10-23 Thread William Stein
not be > forked, but that seriously limits its usability in complex environments. > > Sage is a complicated piece of software. @parallel is implemented using fork. Sage can be forked, but certain steps must be taken, as is done in the @parallel code. Good luck, William -- -- William Stei

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage stuck with GNU parallel

2017-10-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 4:49 AM, Sebastiano Vigna wrote: > > > Il giorno lunedì 23 ottobre 2017 10:45:31 UTC+2, Sebastiano Vigna ha > scritto: >> >> I am trying to use multiple sage instances on a Linux machine using GNU >> parallel. sage works perfectly from the command line, but gets stuck (ps >

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