[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
Well, I guess it depends on what your definition of "successful" is..."Black Book" (2006)cost $21 million and grossed $26 million worldwide..."Starship Troopers" (1997) cost $105 million and grossed $121 million. Of his three mainstream movies made after "Showgirls," only "Hollow Man" (2000) ca

Re: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water

2009-09-26 Thread Wlrouge
Milledgeville GA. It is a town outside of Macon GA Autobots, transform!!! On Sep 26, 2009, at 4:50 PM, "Tracey de Morsella" > wrote: Where have you relocated from? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wlro...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, Septem

[scifinoir2] Ice Age: Dawn of Dinosaurs 3rd highest grossing movie

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
(This is amazing to me ~ (no)rave!) http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2605&p=.htm `Ice Age 3' Climbs to Lofty Foreign Milestone by Brandon Gray September 15, 2009 On the foreign front, Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs has officially become the third highest-grossing movie of all time. The anima

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread B Smith
That's a bit of a different assertion. ;) He has made successful films but they aren't my cup of tea either. His work after Showgirls isn't anywhere as good as stuff you mentioned or his more Dutch films like Spetters and Soldier of Orange. I totally agree with you that point. --- In scifinoi

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Tracey de Morsella
When does it premier? -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:33 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I kn

[scifinoir2] Re: FlashForward on Thursday Anyone??

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
I enjoyed the premiere episode but I don't think I am going to invest in DVRing the whole season (I have "Lost" fatigue). I did enjoy seeing Courtney B. Vance, Barry Shabaka Henley and Lee Thompson Young ("The Famous Jett Jackson") all working in the same scenes, though. I am all for black men

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
I know "Black Book" was critically acclaimed (I still haven't seen it) but "Starship Troopers" is a hot mess. I still assert Verhoeven hasn't done anything post-Showgirls to rival his work pre-Showgirls. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "B Smith" wrote: > > Rave, > Verhoeven did

[scifinoir2] V

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
The commercial for the new "V" television series looks hot. ~rave!

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread B Smith
Rave, Verhoeven did Starship Troopers and Black Book post-Showgirls. Starshp Troopers isn't a fave but it was well received and Black Book was critically acclaimed. Unfortunately he also squeezed Hollow Man in there too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > I *tried*

[scifinoir2] Re: "Dollhouse" Returns tonight

2009-09-26 Thread B Smith
No they're right. The original pilot was never aired and neither was the final episode. It was only available on the dvd release. It featured a glimpse into a post-apocalyptic future and the role that the dollhouses had in screwing up the world. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco w

Re: [scifinoir2] "Dollhouse" Returns tonight

2009-09-26 Thread Bosco Bosco
The finale was aired. The original pilot which Whedon had to reshoot was not aired. It's a very fun show with a lot of what makes Whedon great shining through. B --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Keith Johnson wrote: From: Keith Johnson Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Dollhouse" Returns tonight To: scifinoir2

[scifinoir2] Azur & Asmar: The Prince's Quest

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
This afternoon I took advantage of an opportunity to see "Azur & Asmar: the Prince's Quest" on the big screen. Apparently, the gorgeously rendered 3D computer animated movie with two-dimensional, painted backgrounds and non-photo realistic rendering has not been wildly distributed because a fem

[scifinoir2] Surrogates review

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
A few spoilers, from the look of it, for anyone interested. http://www.sci-fi-london.com/news/article/1253885317/2/surrogates "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

[scifinoir2] Is Cross-Genre SF Killing Science Fiction?

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Last week, if memory serves, someone (forgive me for not naming you -- memory still plays havoc) posed the question if SF itself was dead/dying. This is a short piece, not really fleshed out on its own or in comments. I'm hoping we can beef it up a bit ourselves. http://wisb.blogspot.com/2009/

[scifinoir2] Doctor Who Star Turns Noir Detective

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Because it looks good, and because it's too quiet... http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=doctor_who_star_turns_noir "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

RE: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water

2009-09-26 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Where have you relocated from? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wlro...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:11 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water I am new to the area so I don't hav

Re: [scifinoir2] FlashForward on Thursday Anyone??

2009-09-26 Thread Mr. Worf
I'll pass on that money making scheme too. On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Mr Worf, I wasn't paying much attention to the commercial breaks they were > tossing in, but I think I ehard something to the effect that, for a nominal > texting fee, the answers to such quest

RE: [scifinoir2] FlashForward on Thursday Anyone??

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Mr Worf, I wasn't paying much attention to the commercial breaks they were tossing in, but I think I ehard something to the effect that, for a nominal texting fee, the answers to such questions could easily be had. Think I'll just wait it out, thanks. "If all the world's a stage and all the pe

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
I *tried* to watch it for the first time back in '07. The laughter put me in too much pain to finish. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogro

RE: [scifinoir2] "Smallville" Returns - WTF Did I Miss?

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, I don't know, and I'm not about to waste my time finding out. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcas

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, B just said it. It's as though the director tried to do an Americanized HK actioner, and just didn't know how. Antonio Banderas snoozed his way through his role. I don't think that Lucy "EWWW" Liu could act her way out of a paper bag if you left the business end open, ripped out the bott

Re: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water

2009-09-26 Thread wlrouge
I am new to the area so I don't have a place to hang out at the moment--which also cancels out what to do on the weekend. I would love to go to Atlanta but you have to admit where I was to where I am now--it isn't Kansas anymore. I love plays and musicals. I would go to them every night. I have

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
rave... you were able to *watch* "Showgirls"? You're my hero... "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, I thought so as well. Maybe we both subconsciously put it there, as it was so deserving. And another noticeable absence from the list -- Mike Myers' absymal "The Love Guru". Maybe the people putting the list together went into collective psychic shock, and forgot to tag it on. "If all

Re: [scifinoir2] FlashForward on Thursday Anyone??

2009-09-26 Thread Mr. Worf
I saw Flashforward last night and thought it was pretty good. It was a Fringe/XFiles combo. If they throw in a little Lost in the mix it would probably be a hit. The Lost moment during the show was the kangaroo hopping down the street. Also the guy in his underwear. Was he in a building or doing so

Re: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water

2009-09-26 Thread wlrouge
Trust me I would love that. --Lavender From: Martin Baxter Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:25 AM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water We certainly should. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" --

Re: [scifinoir2] From the "Wow" Files: Ukrainian Wins Contest with Sand Art

2009-09-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Me too. What skill! - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:31:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] From the "Wow" Files: Ukrainian Wins Contest with Sand Art I'm breathless. "If all the world

Re: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water

2009-09-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Where do you hang out for fun? What do you do on the weekends? Do you ever go into Atlanta proper? What kind of food do you like to eat? Do you do plays and musicals? ("The Color Purple" is at the Fox Theatre through tomorrow. Tavis Smiley's history of African Americans, "America I Am" is at th

Re: [scifinoir2] From the "Wow" Files: Ukrainian Wins Contest with Sand Art

2009-09-26 Thread Keith Johnson
It really moved me, since it four times now. Showed it to my wife, and she was blown away. Amazing what people can do with the simplest things. Several years ago my wife and I went to a show of international puppetry at the Center for Puppetry Arts here in Atlanta. (Awesome place). One of the ac

Re: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water

2009-09-26 Thread wlrouge
Wow, in that case I truly feel alone..LOL --Lavender From: Martin Baxter Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:06 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water No, never. And Keith and I live in the same county, shop at the same comics stores. "If all the world's a stage

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
There's another one they missed. I remember catching one critic's review of that when I was standing somewhere in line. "After seeing this, now I know why they didn't release Parts 1-5." "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- C

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Okay, don't go Republican on me! :) I said *Some* of the worst trash ever put on celluloid, and I stand by that. Never saw "Leonard Part 6" I heard so much bad about it. As for the worst movie I've ever seen, that's really hard. I think the worst, like the best, would be difficult to pin down t

Re: [scifinoir2] FlashForward on Thursday Anyone??

2009-09-26 Thread wlrouge
Too me, the white guy with shorts on seemed to want to be the Abby or the lady from Criminal Minds. The other guy who wanted to be more like Duckie. The lady that was the mother seems to me she is leaning more so to Ziva. The black guy who ever he is suppose to be reminds me of Duckie's assistan

RE: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Myself, Keith, I rarely get out. Managing this thing I call life tends to eat up what time and money I have. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@y

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Who keeps giving Roland Emmerich cash? "2012"

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Possibly not. When I'm asleep, I'm not aware of myself. Demitri's lack of memory could stem from that. He may have merely been doing nothing. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
I HATED "Showgirls" the first time I saw it because, at the time, I adored Paul Verhoeven's films: "Fresh and Blood," "RoboCop," "Total Recall," and "Basic Instinct." The phenomenal success of "Basic Instinct" is the worse thing that could have happened to Verhoeven. He hasn't made a successfu

RE: [scifinoir2] Milwaukee Film Festival - Modus Operandi

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
I'll seek out the script, for potential Mistie treatment. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Sat,

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
I'm with George on this one. "The worst trash ever put on celluloid"? Really? Have you never seen "Leonard, Part 6"? ("Leonard" 1-5 were pretty good, though). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > Well, they discussed that, and I think one man's unwatchable is ano

[scifinoir2] Re: "Dollhouse" Returns tonight

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
What an embarrassment of riches! I remember - not to long ago! - when we on this list lamented the dearth of SF themed programs to watch. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > Too many shows to watch this season. > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Keith Johnson wrot

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Dollhouse" Returns tonight

2009-09-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah, only SciFi Channel and stuff like "20/20" and "Dateline" thrive on Friday. Now, CBS has found winning formulae with Ghost Whisperer, as you mentioned, and "Numbers" (a good show that'd probably get more buzz on another night). But other than that, it's not a primo night. I raised an eyebro

RE: [scifinoir2] From the "Wow" Files: Ukrainian Wins Contest with Sand Art

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
I'm breathless. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:05:52 + Subject:

[scifinoir2] Re: "Dollhouse" Returns tonight

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
Friday is network television's graveyard. More often than not, shows are placed there to whither and die ("Ugly Betty"). Life being what it is, six of one and a half dozen of another, some shows, like "The Ghost Whisperer," stubbornly take root. Friday night is not as bad as Saturday night (i

RE: [scifinoir2] Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, an addendum to my revious on this -- I'd sooner re-watch "Bad Boys 2" than "Ballistic", even if you cut Gabrielle out of the former entirely. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/