[scifinoir2] Re: Dollhouse Returns tonight

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
Friday is network television's graveyard. More often than not, shows are placed there to whither and die (Ugly Betty). Life being what it is, six of one and a half dozen of another, some shows, like The Ghost Whisperer, stubbornly take root. Friday night is not as bad as Saturday night (is

RE: [scifinoir2] From the Wow Files: Ukrainian Wins Contest with Sand Art

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
I'm breathless. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:05:52 + Subject:

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
I HATED Showgirls the first time I saw it because, at the time, I adored Paul Verhoeven's films: Fresh and Blood, RoboCop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct. The phenomenal success of Basic Instinct is the worse thing that could have happened to Verhoeven. He hasn't made a successful movie

RE: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Myself, Keith, I rarely get out. Managing this thing I call life tends to eat up what time and money I have. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To:

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Okay, don't go Republican on me! :) I said *Some* of the worst trash ever put on celluloid, and I stand by that. Never saw Leonard Part 6 I heard so much bad about it. As for the worst movie I've ever seen, that's really hard. I think the worst, like the best, would be difficult to pin down to

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
There's another one they missed. I remember catching one critic's review of that when I was standing somewhere in line. After seeing this, now I know why they didn't release Parts 1-5. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? --

RE: [scifinoir2] Milwaukee Film Festival - Modus Operandi

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
I'll seek out the script, for potential Mistie treatment. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Sat,

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Who keeps giving Roland Emmerich cash? 2012

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Possibly not. When I'm asleep, I'm not aware of myself. Demitri's lack of memory could stem from that. He may have merely been doing nothing. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dollhouse Returns tonight

2009-09-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah, only SciFi Channel and stuff like 20/20 and Dateline thrive on Friday. Now, CBS has found winning formulae with Ghost Whisperer, as you mentioned, and Numbers (a good show that'd probably get more buzz on another night). But other than that, it's not a primo night. I raised an eyebrow to

RE: [scifinoir2] Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, an addendum to my revious on this -- I'd sooner re-watch Bad Boys 2 than Ballistic, even if you cut Gabrielle out of the former entirely. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

Re: [scifinoir2] FlashForward on Thursday Anyone??

2009-09-26 Thread wlrouge
Too me, the white guy with shorts on seemed to want to be the Abby or the lady from Criminal Minds. The other guy who wanted to be more like Duckie. The lady that was the mother seems to me she is leaning more so to Ziva. The black guy who ever he is suppose to be reminds me of Duckie's

[scifinoir2] Re: Dollhouse Returns tonight

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
What an embarrassment of riches! I remember - not to long ago! - when we on this list lamented the dearth of SF themed programs to watch. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: Too many shows to watch this season. On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Keith

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
I'm with George on this one. The worst trash ever put on celluloid? Really? Have you never seen Leonard, Part 6? (Leonard 1-5 were pretty good, though). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Well, they discussed that, and I think one man's

Re: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water

2009-09-26 Thread wlrouge
Wow, in that case I truly feel alone..LOL --Lavender From: Martin Baxter Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:06 PM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water No, never. And Keith and I live in the same county, shop at the same comics stores. If all the world's a stage

Re: [scifinoir2] From the Wow Files: Ukrainian Wins Contest with Sand Art

2009-09-26 Thread Keith Johnson
It really moved me, since it four times now. Showed it to my wife, and she was blown away. Amazing what people can do with the simplest things. Several years ago my wife and I went to a show of international puppetry at the Center for Puppetry Arts here in Atlanta. (Awesome place). One of the

Re: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water

2009-09-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Where do you hang out for fun? What do you do on the weekends? Do you ever go into Atlanta proper? What kind of food do you like to eat? Do you do plays and musicals? (The Color Purple is at the Fox Theatre through tomorrow. Tavis Smiley's history of African Americans, America I Am is at the

Re: [scifinoir2] From the Wow Files: Ukrainian Wins Contest with Sand Art

2009-09-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Me too. What skill! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:31:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] From the Wow Files: Ukrainian Wins Contest with Sand

Re: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water

2009-09-26 Thread wlrouge
Trust me I would love that. --Lavender From: Martin Baxter Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:25 AM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water We certainly should. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? --

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, I thought so as well. Maybe we both subconsciously put it there, as it was so deserving. And another noticeable absence from the list -- Mike Myers' absymal The Love Guru. Maybe the people putting the list together went into collective psychic shock, and forgot to tag it on. If all

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
rave... you were able to *watch* Showgirls? You're my hero... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date:

Re: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water

2009-09-26 Thread wlrouge
I am new to the area so I don't have a place to hang out at the moment--which also cancels out what to do on the weekend. I would love to go to Atlanta but you have to admit where I was to where I am now--it isn't Kansas anymore. I love plays and musicals. I would go to them every night. I have

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, B just said it. It's as though the director tried to do an Americanized HK actioner, and just didn't know how. Antonio Banderas snoozed his way through his role. I don't think that Lucy EWWW Liu could act her way out of a paper bag if you left the business end open, ripped out the

RE: [scifinoir2] Smallville Returns - WTF Did I Miss?

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, I don't know, and I'm not about to waste my time finding out. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From:

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
I *tried* to watch it for the first time back in '07. The laughter put me in too much pain to finish. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To:

RE: [scifinoir2] FlashForward on Thursday Anyone??

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Mr Worf, I wasn't paying much attention to the commercial breaks they were tossing in, but I think I ehard something to the effect that, for a nominal texting fee, the answers to such questions could easily be had. Think I'll just wait it out, thanks. If all the world's a stage and all the

Re: [scifinoir2] FlashForward on Thursday Anyone??

2009-09-26 Thread Mr. Worf
I'll pass on that money making scheme too. On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, I wasn't paying much attention to the commercial breaks they were tossing in, but I think I ehard something to the effect that, for a nominal texting fee, the

RE: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water

2009-09-26 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Where have you relocated from? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wlro...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:11 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water I am new to the area so I don't

[scifinoir2] Doctor Who Star Turns Noir Detective

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Because it looks good, and because it's too quiet... http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=doctor_who_star_turns_noir If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

[scifinoir2] Is Cross-Genre SF Killing Science Fiction?

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Last week, if memory serves, someone (forgive me for not naming you -- memory still plays havoc) posed the question if SF itself was dead/dying. This is a short piece, not really fleshed out on its own or in comments. I'm hoping we can beef it up a bit ourselves.

[scifinoir2] Surrogates review

2009-09-26 Thread Martin Baxter
A few spoilers, from the look of it, for anyone interested. http://www.sci-fi-london.com/news/article/1253885317/2/surrogates If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

[scifinoir2] Azur Asmar: The Prince's Quest

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
This afternoon I took advantage of an opportunity to see Azur Asmar: the Prince's Quest on the big screen. Apparently, the gorgeously rendered 3D computer animated movie with two-dimensional, painted backgrounds and non-photo realistic rendering has not been wildly distributed because a

Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse Returns tonight

2009-09-26 Thread Bosco Bosco
The finale was aired. The original pilot which Whedon had to reshoot was not aired. It's a very fun show with a lot of what makes Whedon great shining through. B --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re:

[scifinoir2] Re: Dollhouse Returns tonight

2009-09-26 Thread B Smith
No they're right. The original pilot was never aired and neither was the final episode. It was only available on the dvd release. It featured a glimpse into a post-apocalyptic future and the role that the dollhouses had in screwing up the world. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread B Smith
Rave, Verhoeven did Starship Troopers and Black Book post-Showgirls. Starshp Troopers isn't a fave but it was well received and Black Book was critically acclaimed. Unfortunately he also squeezed Hollow Man in there too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@...

[scifinoir2] V

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
The commercial for the new V television series looks hot. ~rave!

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
I know Black Book was critically acclaimed (I still haven't seen it) but Starship Troopers is a hot mess. I still assert Verhoeven hasn't done anything post-Showgirls to rival his work pre-Showgirls. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: Rave,

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Tracey de Morsella
When does it premier? -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:33 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread B Smith
That's a bit of a different assertion. ;) He has made successful films but they aren't my cup of tea either. His work after Showgirls isn't anywhere as good as stuff you mentioned or his more Dutch films like Spetters and Soldier of Orange. I totally agree with you that point. --- In

[scifinoir2] Ice Age: Dawn of Dinosaurs 3rd highest grossing movie

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
(This is amazing to me ~ (no)rave!) http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2605p=.htm `Ice Age 3' Climbs to Lofty Foreign Milestone by Brandon Gray September 15, 2009 On the foreign front, Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs has officially become the third highest-grossing movie of all time. The

Re: [scifinoir2] Atlanta Under Water

2009-09-26 Thread Wlrouge
Milledgeville GA. It is a town outside of Macon GA Autobots, transform!!! On Sep 26, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Where have you relocated from? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade

2009-09-26 Thread Kelwyn
Well, I guess it depends on what your definition of successful is...Black Book (2006)cost $21 million and grossed $26 million worldwide...Starship Troopers (1997) cost $105 million and grossed $121 million. Of his three mainstream movies made after Showgirls, only Hollow Man (2000) can be